#primordial chaos

[monstrifex-art]

Primordial Chaos - Hades II fanart

We love a gender non-conforming deity around here. They're looking STUNNING in the new game. (Uncensored version on my other socials.)

Prints available here!

[fedezzzsigart]

Primordial Parent

[alemja-art]

In the name of Hades! This was my pandemic project, fanart of Primordial Chaos from Hades by Supergiant Games! Here is the idle animation, rendered in Unreal 5 You can see even more renders on my Artstation

[amaryllis-sagitta]

I might be reading way too much into this, but after the first look at the new Chaos design I think there might be some kind of a dialectic going on within themself.

The original design is more amorphous and neutral in its presentation, sure. It emphasizes two things to me:

that Chaos is constantly churning on the inside, and

that they birthed the chtonic entities (or at least Nyx and Erebus, which is interesting since in Hades games, Nyx is personified and Erebus is a whole ass biome) and they constantly spawn new potential entities or incarnations of themself, as represented by fetuses and faces protruding from the different parts of their gnarly body.

The new design shows us a well put together androgynous figure in a sparkly suit (though leaning a little more towards femme presentation), holding a skull with a piece of a spine still attached.

As a matter of fact, I believe that the skull is one of the Hades 1 Chaos themself. It has the familiar Chaos sigil on its forehead, and there's a fetus coming out of its mouth. Which to me hints that between the events of Hades 1 and Hades 2, the Primordial Originator's avatar reached some breaking point and had to be reborn. Perhaps Kronos/ Chronos (???) breaking out sowed so much turmoil in the world that Primordial Chaos has inadvertently spread themself thin, and their own realm had to be reformed. In that condition, it would make sense for them to hold themself tighter whenever they need to speak to someone.

The new look feels so very... corporate and luminous, aside from being more anthropomorphic. The look reminds us of the Furies from the first game. To me, it represents form over substance, which would add an interesting dialectical beat to Chaos: even within themself, they can fluctuate between having more or less Form; the Form, too, is already anticipated to come out of Chaos. This new design is controversial because it brings Chaos closer to Form and Light, something that feels paradoxical. They have what looks like a pocket watch in their lapel - they are related to Time!

Which would push the understanding of Chaos towards the Aristotelian concept of change, making them something like Prime Potentiality - the domain where things "wait" for the right timing or the right circumstances to become. This interpretation seems to go well with how H1 Chaos could never be fully present in the world, could never visit their children; the world is where possibilities get actualized into, and Chaos is the conceptualized "point" where everything actualizes from.

And isn't this paradoxical feel about Chaos's new design consistent with their previous presentation as a force in flux that holds multiple internal voices and pairs of logical contradictions, and loves all that's unpredictable?

(Disclaimer: I'm not a classicist, I'm a philosopher, so I appreciate extra on insight on that. I love Chaos's design from H1 and I want to understand the new one.)

[marshmalleaux-queen]

this is basically how that minor prophecy goes, right

[toushindai]

quite significant Hades II spoilers in this one--

every now and then in the feedback channel I see people who feel that Chaos having been deceived by Chronos reduces the moral ambiguity of Chaos's character, and I think that is... not correct? Look, Chaos is as morally shrimp colors as they have always been. In literally the exact exchange in which they confess to having revealed the Fates' location to Chronos, they state that their reason for doing so was to verify whether such choices could be made without the Fates' influence, and then they point out, "Yet they are not so powerful as they appeared." Which is an incredibly petty point to make as they are confessing their own culpability!

Even having been deceived by Chronos, I think, complicates them rather than reducing their complexity. Because look... I don't think that Chronos is a particularly sneaky character, right? Even eg towards the beginning of the game when he's trying ferret out who Melinoe is and what she's up to, he's offputtingly condescending. In what we've seen of him so far, I don't see the capacity to not leave an incredibly slimy impression. But that apparently went entirely over Chaos's head--despite their observation of their creation--despite their concern over Nyx's and Zagreus's absence, which is implied to predate Chronos's approaching them. This doesn't reveal them to be a poor widdle victim, in my opinion; it reveals them to be startlingly and dangerously naive.

The impression I'm getting from every aspect of Chaos in this game, from their design to how they factor into the plot, is that they appear more like their creations, but they aren't so. Their appearance is dramatically closer to human, but they are still an entire void in the chest area and have oozy faces on their shoulder (and that's not even getting into the blatant violation of time their outfit demonstrates, which, all things considered, feels tremendously pointed). They feel guilt about their role in the Fates' capture but also still want to give those old biddies the middle finger at every opportunity. Their eagerness to shove an Origin Seed into your hand as soon as you need it to defy the Fates is honestly hilarious. Don't you think so? Just because their sense of having been wronged aligns them with our mission, that doesn't mean that their morals align with ours. This is what those feedbacks miss, I think.

[fairyblue-alchemist]

I NEED THEIR GENDER ASAP. WHY IS THE REDESIGN OF CHAOS SO PRETTY

[letsburnthatbridgewhenwegetthere]

Chaos design symbolism!!!!

Okay so I have so many thoughts about the change in Chaos's design and if don't share them I might just implode. Basically I think about the change in their design denotes a cycle of rebirth and death/ decomposition. In their Hades 1 design they look like this:

I view the amorphous faces as an embodiment of their experiences throughout a long phase in their existence. I would also like to point out in this design they are growing a baby.

This is very similar to the new design, where what I believe the head of Chaos's Hades 1 designs head is growing another baby.

So from this I think that Chaos is a constant state of change and rebirth as a microcosm of the universe under the big crunch theory.

Which basically states that the universe is always expanding until it implodes, creates a subsequent big bang, and continues as such. Based on that the design from Hades 1 would be placed on this timeline towards the end before the implosion, and the Hades 2 design right after the big bang.

Another thing that I find very interesting is that Chaos seems to be materialist in nature as they have elements of their past in both their designs, denoting that creation does not exist in a vacuum. This is done with the faces incorporated into their body, and holding the skull of their previous form respectively.

Gah! I love symbolism!! Of course the deity of creation is a perpetual state of change that reflects a theory of the timeline of the universe while at the same time internally representing their previous selves as an embodiment of the materialist nature of existence!!!!

[beyondthepeople]

I'm so intrigued by Chaos! The new design has characteristics of Nyx, Than and Meg so maybe they trying to bond with the family (?) Also, the little baby attached to their old form, aaaargh so many questions

[redbacklight]

[thedemigodsguide]

Hey theoretically if I was a child of chaos would I still be allowed in Camp Half Blood?

- Call me 🌌 /Space anon :)

Hi, Space Anon😉!

I’ve never heard of a child of Chaos! While technically possible, it’s unprecedented!

To answer your question, however, yes. You would be allowed at camp. The only beings that are unwelcome are those who truly intend to harm its occupants. That means monsters, mostly. And some demigods/legacies that are Octavian a danger to our people (*cough*the anemic loser*cough*).

Same goes for New Rome. There rules are a little different, though, so you’d probably need to spend a little more time talking with them if you want to stay there instead.

Anyways, hope to see you soon!

–Kally

[peaceinthestorm]

Hilma af Klint (1862-1944, Swedish) ~ Group I, Primordial Chaos, No. 16 (Grupp 1, Urkaos, nr 16), from The WU-Rose Series (Serie WU-Rosen), 1906-7

[Source: artvee.com]

[alemja-art]

In the name of Hades! This was my pandemic project, fanart of Primordial Chaos from Hades by Supergiant Games!

My ultimate goal was to create a 3D model of my favorite Chthonic God, Chaos, animate them and composite them into footage of the game to see what it would look like.

I have even more renders on my Artstation: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1xKBxZ

[lytorika]

Chaos Hades 2 you're the hottest bitch I've ever seen

[knight-parzival]

Hades II Chaos sucks fight me

[toushindai]

Chaos observes with interest.