#platonic hookfire

[hannahhook7744]

Madhook kids moodboards part 1;

Neal Baelfire Cassidy, the 30 year old son of Milah and Gold. The kinda stepson/adoptive son of Killian Jonws and Jefferson Hightop (in this fic anyway). He is a former thief and a janitor, and the oldest of the kids.

Cassandra "Cass" Seraphina Gothel, the 16 year old daughter of Mother Gothel/Eliose Gardner. Adoptive Daughter of Killian Jones and Jefferson Hightop. She is the 2nd oldest and an adventure loving, bad ass warrior girl who can be seen as a stick in the mud at times.

Prince Edward of Andalasia/Edward James Encanted, the 14 year old step son of Narissa and the adoptive son of Killian Jones and Jefferson Hightop. He is the 3rd oldest and a sweet but slightly dimwitted boy who is the stereotypical fairytale prince for the most part.

Grace Priscilla Hightop, the 10 year old daughter of Jefferson and Priscilla Hightop. Adoptive daughter of Killian Jones. She is the 4th oldest and a hopeful, curious, playful sweetheart.

Liam "Lee-Lee" Jonathan James Jones the 3rd, the 8 year old son of Mother Gothel/Eloise Gardener and Killian Jones. Adoptive son of Jefferson Hightop. He is a slightly cowardly but intelligent and playful young man who wants to explore the world with his handmade grinning cat mask that turns him invisible at will when he's wearing it.

Alice "Tilly" Mary-Anne Jones the 2nd, the 8 year daughter of Mother Gothel/Eloise Gardener and Killian Jones. Adoptive daughter of Jefferson Hightop. She is an intelligent, brave, playful little girl who just wants to explore the world with her brother and her magic mask that makes her immune to memory curses when she's wearing it.

Ginevra "Ginny" Flower Gothel, the 7 year daughter of Mother Gothel/Eloise Gardener. Adoptive daughter of Killian Jones and Jefferson Hightop. She is a snarky and rebellious little girl with a mean streak who would do anything for her slightly younger sister, Harriet.

[heytheredeann]

*breaks down your door* OUAT, SWANFIRE, NEAL CASSIDY

Oh, hi! *waves* I’m gonna need you to fix that door tho, pal.

Once Upon A Time:

Favorite character: Neal and Regina (to the surprise of literally no one).

Least Favorite character: Zelena, hands down.

5 Favorite ships (canon or non-canon): Swanfire, HookedQueen, Swanfirequeen, Hookfire (preferably platonic tho), Evil Snowing.

Character I find most attractive: The women in this show are like. stunning. there are so many. But Regina could punch me in the face and I’d thank her for it, not gonna lie.

Character I would marry: Regina LOL (how many of these answers are gonna be Regina and Neal, exactly?) Preferably mid/post redemption Regina, but I’m not gonna be picky LOL.

Character I would be best friends with: …Neal (case and point)

a random thought: Whoever chose Regina’s outfits in s7 has my outmost respect and gratitude.

An unpopular opinion: Neal should have lived and Swanfire should have been endgame.

My Canon OTP: Swanfire.

My Non-canon OTP: HookedQueen.

Most Badass Character: I mean, who ISN’T badass in this show? My answer is going to be 100% biased and I’m gonna say Neal in loving memory of that time he just summoned a giant squid to get its ink like it’s No Big Deal.

Most Epic Villain: Not counting those who were redeemed? (because otherwise I’m saying the Evil Queen and you know it LOL) I have a soft spot for Drizella in s7, but it’s more ‘favourite villain’ than ‘most epic’.

Pairing I am not a fan of: Emma/Hook.

Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): Ah. so many LOL. Neal was killed off, so in a way at least he got off easy. Emma was destroyed imo, among maaaany others.

Favourite Friendship: Soooo many.The Swanqueen co-parenting gives me life. But also Evil Snowing is A+.

Character I most identify with: Neal and Regina.

Character I wish I could be: I want to be Ariel: swim away from all my problems into a deserted island with my favourite person.

Swanfire:

When I started shipping them: LOL, from the very beginning in Tallahassee! Neal had me pretty much from when he popped up from the backseat, and their first scene together, all the SASS, trolling the officer, ‘I stole a stolen car’… Yeah, I had no idea what I was getting into but I was a goner from the beginning LOL.

My thoughts: I think they were set up to be endgame and they should have been DAMMIT.

What makes me happy about them: Nothing, I’m sad all the time. They clicked SO WELL. They were such good friends and they could have made each other ridiculously happy.

What makes me sad about them: HE’S SIX FEET UNDERGROUND.

Things done in fanfic that annoys me: I can be pretty picky with Neal’s characterization sometimes, so there’s that. I can’t really think of anything specific?

Things I look for in fanfic: Fix-its, mostly, but I’ll be happy if there’s content to begin with LOL.

My wishlist: NEAL. ALIVE. THAT’S IT.

Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Swanqueen is Good. For Neal I don’t really have an alternative romantic ship that I feel strongly about? I ship Swanfirequeen so I guess I wouldn’t mind him with Regina either, maybe. I don’t know, it’s kinda weird without Emma LOL.

My happily ever after for them: Neal lives, they slowly start going out again, they get married, settle down in their crazy-ass magical town to raise their son with Regina and enjoy their big family, the end. Everything is sunny and absolutely nothing hurts.

Neal Cassidy:

How I feel about this character: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU REALLY HAVE. I’m just gonna say that I. love him. lots. I scream about him in the tags all the time and I don’t think a character has ever hurt me this much in my life AND I’VE HAD MY FAIR SHARE OF FICTIONAL HEARTBREAKS OKAY. He deserved so much better.

Any/all the people I ship romantically with this character: Emma. I also ship Swanfirequeen, so Regina too technically, but mostly Emma.

My favorite non-romantic relationship for this character: Literally everyone. His relationship with Henry breaks my heart. But also Rumple, and Hook.

My unpopular opinion about this character: He was an A+ love interest and a great guy. He absolutely did not deserve to die, and his death did NOTHING for his character. Neal had known how to self-sacrifice since when he was a kid, his death was a way to not have him be an option for Emma, because when it came to HIS narrative what he wanted and needed to do was making up to Emma and Henry for all the lost time, for leaving, he couldn’t care less about being an hero.

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: HE SHOULD HAVE LIVED GODDAMMIT.

Favorite friendship for this character: His frienship with Belle is precious, although IT WAS SO SHORT-LIVED. Also, Wendy. Wendy was amazing and so good to him.

My crossover ship: I don’t really do crossover ships, but I feel like I could put him in a room with Flynn and Jessica from Timeless and be like ‘You three got screwed over by the writers in similar fashion, bond’.

send me a show, a ship and/or a character!

[queen-mabs-revenge]

I disagree with your statement that "Killian's redemption arc needed to involve fatherhood." No. Children aren't a redemption tool. Parents need to get their crap together before they have kids. Killian did things the right way. He was inspired by Emma to be a better man, and he worked his butt off to prove he could change. That's why we love him. He wasn't raped, handed a kid, and told he gets instant redemption. He became a hero first. And only then did he get married and become a father.

Same anon as the last. Call this 2/2. A big problem with Fake Hook is that he’s a terrible father. The guy knocked up a stranger in a tower where he knew an evil with lived. He created a kid with (1) an evil rapist for a mom who was (2) trapped in a tower with no future. Then he got his heart cursed, abandoned her, and wandered around drunk. Meanwhile, Killian has given his child an amazing mother, a home, a future. Objectively, Real Killian is the better father and the better man. Always.

Ok, 3/3, b/c I’ll defend my Killian to my last breath. The center of Killian’s story was losing his brother and first love and abandoning being a hero (Lt. Jones) for revenge. His redemption needed to come not from having a kid forced on him, but through being inspired by love to give up revenge, to become a hero again. This is why Wish Hook isn’t catching on w/ most Killian fans. That vital part of his story-finding true love & becoming a hero-needs to be earned. Only then should he be a father

Ok, 4/4, I think this is the last. I thought of one more way to express it. Killian didn’t become a villain because his dad left. He became a villain because he was betrayed by royalty and lost his brother. He lost his belief in something bigger than himself. He lost his belief in being a hero. That’s exactly why his redemption story needed to come through Emma, a princess and a savior, even if they’d stayed platonic. He needed someone to make him believe again. Emma (and Henry) gave him that.

I’m not sure why you’ve decided to write all of this without reading the meta this is supposedly in response to?

My entire argument hinged on the idea of Killian’s betrayal of Baelfire being his most egregious crime and that needing to be his main relationship on the route to redemption. That relationship was sacrificed because the writers didn’t know how to deal with both it and positioning Killian as part of the Captain Swan relationship.

Again, Killian didn’t need to learn how to be a supportive lover through Emma’s magical princess love or whatever you’re arguing here. He had a decade long relationship with Milah that ended with her in a position of command on the ship, and them both ready to sacrifice their lives for each other’s wellbeing and safety. Using that as the vehicle to achieve his redemption and hero-story doesn’t serve his character because it’s not something he needed to heal and learn from.

Like again, I’m not going to restate every word of what I wrote, but first of all, he didn’t become a villain after Liam died. He became a pirate as political rebellion. Milah’s death was what started his revenge trajectory (his introductory episode was intended to explain the Hook/Rumple antagonistic history, and to explain his family connection to Baelfire through his love for Milah). The most information we get from him about his own backstory is when he tells Baelfire the story of him being abandoned by his ~*~drumroll~*~ father. He abandons Baelfire in turn, and that’s the story we leave Season 2 to set up Season 3 with. Like IDK what to tell you, but these are canon facts.

Season 2 frames Killian as a failed father figure. He turns his ship around because of his love for Baelfire – Milah’s son, the kid he cared for – who he has just learned has died without his having been able to amend the awful betrayal he committed against him. He literally is set up to identify with David (“The things we do for our children.”)

The fact that you (and I do mean you. The minority who have a hate boner for any Killian development without Emma) can’t envision a story centered around his role as a father without it being his biological CS offspring (love that Henry thrown in there in brackets like the afterthought I argued that he is to the CS story) is just a testament to how much his character was stripped down and made into a prop for that story instead of following what he was literally set up in S2 to be.

(Unfortunately they lost the opportunity to tell the Hookfire redemption story in the first iteration, so they had to tackle the concept of Killian’s (yes Killian’s but lol cling to that ‘fake’ thing, sweaty) parenthood in a different way for S7.)

Also, again, if you bothered to read the original meta, I address why Lieutenant Jones isn’t Killian at his peak, but as someone wearing a mask. Because he’s trying to live up to an untouchable example. Unintentionally set by Liam. His father figure. Like I wrote it with actual words.

I mean, I don’t know what to expect from someone who is blaming Killian for the circumstances of Alice’s conception and Gothel’s secret motives for conceiving a child. You know who else is a terrible parent? Emma – she got knocked up by someone she knew for a few months, created a kid with someone who (1) skipped town and left her in jail as a father who was (2) put up for adoption and adopted by the evil queen who cursed her entire family. Then got out of prison, abandoned him instead of looking for him, and wandered around as a thief.

Oh wow, yikes, see how shitty it is when you try and blame someone for the circumstances imposed upon them? But, sure, you do you, pal.

[anthonybrxdgerton]

A, B, H and M? :)

thank you so much for the questions, love!

A - Ships that you currently like a lot. (They don’t have to be OTPs because not everyone has OTPs.) Friendships, pairings, threesomes, etc. are allowed.

AHHHH I HAVE SO MANY YOU HAVE NO IDEAAAA... At the moment:

romantic: Adrinette, Aragorn & Arwen, Bleur, Cylice, Darcy & Elizabeth, DjWifi, Fabina, Farawyn, FitzSimmons, Glass Believer, Jassandra, Jeroy, Jily, Pepperony, Percabeth, Scarlet Queen, Scallison, Sherlolly, Solangelo, Stydia, Swanfire, Westallen, Wondertrev...

platonic: Alyanette,Danvers Sisters, Deke & Fitzsimmons, Henry & Neal, Hookfire, Fitzskimmons, Fitzskye, Flashvibe, Iron Husbands, Killervibe, Neal & Belle, Papafire, Regal Believer, Science Bros, Sciles, Skimmons, Stiles & Melissa, Thor & Heimdall, Thorki...

B - A pairing–platonic, romantic or sexual–that you initially didn’t consider, but someone changed your mind.

romantic: Blackinnon, Perciver, Romione...

platonic: HookFire, MadFire, (there are more but i don’t remember now)

H - What is your favorite source text for fandom stuff (e.g., TV shows, movies, books, anime, Western animation, etc.)?

I love “incorrect quotes” memes (from books or tv shows or movies), I love song lyrics, poems...

M - Name a character that you’d like to have for a friend.

All of them. 

The first few that come to my mind are Loki, Thor, Tony Stark, Pepper Potts, Percy Jackson, Annabeth Chase, Regina Mills and Stiles Stilinski

send me a letter and i’ll tell you...

[heytheredeann]

“Hiding an Injury” fill for the Bad Things Happen Bingo, Swanfire (+ a little bit of platonic Hookfire), 3x07 AU. 

@badthingshappenbingo

“Hey, Emma,” Neal catches her attention, reaching for her arm to stop her. She was kind of expecting it, after the earful she gave them, but she swears, if he wants to argue— “Take this,” he says, though, placing the coconut in her hands with a weird expression on his face.

“Why?” she frowns. Does it make a difference who’s carrying it? And he’s the one who knows what to do with it anyway.

“Don’t wanna drop it,” he mutters, then he reaches for the tree next to him as if to lean on it, his knees buckle, and next thing she knows he’s on the ground and she has almost dropped the coconut trying to reflexively catch him.

“Neal!” she calls, quickly dropping on her knees to see what the hell has gotten into him, while Hook promptly runs back towards them and joins her. “Neal, what the hell?”

He’s kinda looking like shit, his face twisted in a pained grimace and looking paler than normal. Was he that pale before? There isn’t the best lighting, it’s possible that she didn’t notice. He’s reaching for his chest, and Emma’s first thought is something along the lines of Tell me you are not having a heart attack here of all places, because about 90% of her medical knowledge comes from TV and she doesn’t even know what the hell she’s supposed to do besides maybe CPR and—

“Is that blood?!” she asks, her tone edging pretty evidently towards hysterics. She quickly removes his hand, her brain only then registering that he’s clutching the right side of his chest and that that’s where he was shot.

It feels like a lifetime ago, but it isn’t, and he reasonably shouldn’t be standing right now, let alone running around organizing escapes from hellish islands and helping in a rescue mission.

He said he was fine and she sort of assumed that he had been magically cured, he said he met Aurora and Mulan and that they helped—

There’s a bandage under his shirt, and it’s soaked in blood. That’s just great. Just great.

“I thought you said you were okay!” she accuses, and maybe she shouldn’t be yelling at the dying man, but he should have said something.

“I was,” he protests, and she doesn’t like how he keeps blinking as in an attempt at clearing his vision. He looks dazed, that’s not good. She needs something to press on that wound.

“You aren’t,” she hisses, angrily. “You should have said something.”

“Thought it was fine.”

“You thought wrong!”

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