#ouat 5x20

[ouatsnark]

more bs. saw a sq saying cs wasn't true love because of the test in the underworld and emma would've jumped in front of anyone on fire including regina...ok

Yes! Emma would've saved anyone from the fire. Including Regina.

However they are missing the key element here.

"I think I know. I think I have to weigh my heart to see if my love for you is true." - Emma 5x20

The scale was weighing her heart to see what kind of love it was. So if it had been Regina instead the door wouldn't have opened because Emma's heart doesn't share true love with Regina. But it did open for Killian Jones.

I still think his response was being tested as well because the show was always saying or showing that true love is shared. You can't have true love if the other person doesn't return it (like Rumple and Belle have both rejected the other or how it doesn't work when the other person doesn't remember who they are or the other person).

Also, in S6 the door opened to Emma's true love. So that is two true love tests and both doors opened to Killian Jones. The haters just need to accept that CaptainSwan was shown to share true love. It's canon. Deal with it.

[happy-emmdings]

So you know what was really messed up?

I mean for one, poor Emma having her heart taken out for like the third time but also… This must have been a horrifying thing for Killian to see.

It happened so quickly and without warning that no one even had time to react, but both David and Killian flinch (even though Killian’s reaction is hard to see because the camera isn’t on him in that moment). But like… they’re just standing there and talking and suddenly out of nowhere this awful untrustwothy horrible dude, that sadistically tortured him not so long ago, just thrusts his hand into Emma’s chest and rips her heart out? I mean… talk about triggers…

And the next second Hades acts like it’s a joke.

Look at him, he’s not okay.

From the moment Hades shows up, Killian spends this whole episode staring daggers at him (with a painful hint of fear) and warning everyone not to trust him. And everyone else is so?? chill about it??

[lonesomedotmp3]

Jennifer Morrison and Rya Kihlstedt as Emma Swan and Cleo Fox

Once Upon a Time 5x20 - Firebird

[vasfasan]

киллиан возвращается

серёгино тело идёт к жене

всё вязко и медленно как в желе

все замолкают будто кошмар

серёга шагает, руки по швам

жена будто рыба, попавшая в сеть

дрожит и вращает белками глаз

ладно, тут не на чё больше смотреть

всё это мы видели тысячу раз

как обычно, никто почему-то не рад

ни один не поздравил серёгу, что он живой

[dinneratgrannys]

[amelia-mariee]

Pro tip: tired of rewatching your favorite show all alone? find a reaction channel that’s actually good, it’s like watching it with someone, plus you have the fun of “ooo I can’t wait until they get to this episode”, PLUS you don’t have to be worried about annoying them with all your comments because they can’t hear you OR maybe they have as many little comments as you

[thecoolestfreakyouknow]

It could be fun to do a poll of favourite captain swan scenes to see which is most popular. for sure my number 1 is the scene in 4x05 when she opens up and lets him look into her childhood, and he responds exactly as he should, completely in tune with her. it's perfect and says everything about their relationship and they don't kiss once. it's living in my head forever <3

[saptaincwan]

SEE I LOVE 5x20 because. ouat leans so heavily on the concept of true love as the GREATEST magic of all. two people who love each other so strongly that impossibility itself is reduced to ash, just because of how much they want to be with each other

but the concept of true love, in a romantic way, is often thought of in modern stories as of. two people predestined to be with each other. and it's something ouat has leaned into as well, with oq most prominently (but other couples as well)

and that interpretation of tl can be fun but idk. i think there's something about two people choosing each other regardless of what a predestined story might have had in the cards for them. and that being JUST as valid as all other kinds fo tl

so i really liked that cs's tl confirmation was uncertain. emma and killian really didn't know if their love was one of the pretold greatest of all time or the like. they just knew they loved each other and were willing to bet everything on that.

and so that was their test. choosing each other no matter what. and i think that's it.

emma and killian weren't a couple who against all odds were destined to find each other. they were two people who managed to love each other so deeply, that they twisted and bended fate itself to allow them to be together.

so what if they weren't destined for each other? so what if they were doomed to be apart, even? how could two people who love each other that much have their bond be anything but true?

[likehandlingroses]

OUAT Rewatch 5x20 - Firebird

You're holding on too tight. Emma - let go. Let go.

[lumadreamland]

[intothewickedwood]

Once Upon A Time Rewatch: 5x20 Firebird

Aww, Regina being super protective over her sister. I live for this!!

Is Stiltskin Rumple and Pan’s surname? Hades just referred to them as ‘the Stiltskins’

That was actually a really silly move of Pan and Rumple, Hades could just teleport them to the ‘worst place’ and throw them in, or at least he could throw Pan in. Maybe that was part of Rumple’s plan.

Bullcrap! Emma’s whole style and personality did no way change in 2 years because of some random woman! This flashback is set in 2009 and didn’t she arrive in SB in 2011? No one changes that dramatically that fast, do they? And it takes away the message that Emma’s upbringing made her who she is. Are they trying to say Emma 1.0 aka Emma s1-s4 wasn’t the real Emma? Is that why her personality closer resembles glasses!Emma in s5 and s6? Because her walls have been brought down? I’m sorry but I hate it if that’s what they are trying to say. Enma s1-s4 is the Emma I fell in love with. But that could certainly explain why she seems so different in s5-s6. Ugh! Why wasn’t this set at least 5 years earlier?

Also, does Emma wear contacts now?

Show yourself, I’m dying to meet you.

Pan, stop touching Zelena’s boobies, you little sh*t!

Why do they just have infinite cuffs now?

True Love! God, I hope Zelena found another romantic true love, if that’s possible, preferably with Archie.

Did it not work because it’s not true love? 

So, taking someone else’s heart wouldn’t have worked for Pan either?

If only Emma had split her heart right after Hook died.

Orpheus nearly brought his love back! I know this from Hadestown the musical!

But Orpheus looked back, and she went back to the Underworld. Is Hades purposefully leaving that part out?

Emma: “And you didn’t have to sacrifice your life to save all of us from the Dark Ones.” *cough* he brought them all there to kill her whole family in the first place *cough* 

This show really needs to stop praising characters for preventing things that they caused happening. 

So, people can fall out of true love? Runple’s kiss with Belle didn’t work! 

Pan, my dude, it’s not gonna work. Hades has just explained that splitting/taking someone else’s heart doesn’t work in the Underworld.

How’d he get the box? I guess there’s another version in the Underworld.

Aww. Regina trusting Zelena and them smiling at each other!!

And now they’re hugging! 

Okay but no way should they force Robin to trust Zelena. Yikes!

How does Rumple make him forget?

Stealthy!! What happened between him and Bashful? 

Do people get older in the Underworld? Is the Underworld just for fairy tale characters? So many questions. 

Yes! Give me all of Cruella and her new lover the Blind Witch ruling the underworld together!

There are so many things wrong with that supposed true love test. For one, anyone would save someone if they were on fire. Heck, many people would save their worst enemy if they were on fire! And, also, it only shows that the love is one sided, that Emma loves Hook but not the other way round and doesn’t true love have to be mutual? I just don’t buy this as a test of true love. Why didn’t they show them performing true love’s kiss to make it absolutely certain? Maybe they’re trying to suggest that they’re not true love, maybe Milah was Hook’s and Neal, or Graham was Emma’s. We know that Graham was potentially Emma’s because her kiss woke him up from the curse. Maybe they’re leaving this ambiguous because they’re trying to say you don’t have to be true loves to be together. Sometimes you can’t be with your true love, and you can find someone else.

Why are they talking so loudly if they don’t want people to know they’re there?

Aww! Zelena doesn’t wanna leave her sister! She’s so worried about her!

She got the jacket 1 year before she went to SB?! That’s not even the same jacket! Wow, I’m just throwing away everything from this episode’s flashbacks. None of it is canon to me.

So coming down to the Underworld turned out to be a waste of time. 

Wow. Rumple really hates his dad. Missed opportunity! They should have brought Pan back to Storybrooke! S6 would have been so much better then! 

Nothing to see here, just putting his wife in a tiny box that’s said to contain the world’s darkest evil!!

Emma! For God’s sake! Go through the portal!! Thank God her dad was there to pull her back or she probably would have missed the portal or stayed there on purpose. Think about your son, Emma! For God’s sake!

Stop going on about your freaking jacket that isn’t even the same one and get your ass through the portal!!

She literally made it by freaking seconds!! What are you doing, girl?!

[exhaustedpirate]

captainswan & snowing

i have to be honest, i’m a little upset with the way the show tried to do the parallels between these two ships

the one that always bothered me was the whole “i will find you, hook, i will always find you” bit when she’s going to the underworld - don’t get me wrong, i found it sweet and aww she’s going for him, i love it but i do have two problems with it:

first of all, the use of “hook”, like i get it, they probably had it like that for promo use but it is kinda ooc for emma to call him hook like that, she’d call him killian, killian is the man who died for her and her family and the man who loves her and tbh i think that whoever the promo concerns will know that she means hook if you have her say killian ok ?

second of all, the use of that quote, i get it, it’s her parent’s phrase and she’s following their lead from the heart split to the quote but it sounds so cheap in that moment, idk it doesn’t sound right. now, there’s a whole other quote that they could have used that she’d know about bc our boy killian said it to someone close to emma about emma and that is *drum roll* “i’d go to the end of the world for her, or time” YES that would be a sentence that they could have her say, a more subtle nod instead of full-on copy, they could have had her say something along the lines of that and even add that snowing bit if that’s what they wanted, something like idk “i’m going to the end of the world for you and i will find you, always” idk i suck but something like that !!! not cheap copy

now if there’s a parallel that they should have used from snowing that i’m still very upset they didn’t is the wedding ... see where i’m getting at ?

snow and charming got married by lancelot so that david’s mother could see him marry before she died, now don’t you think that emma and killian deserved the same chance ? for all they knew at one point, killian wasn’t going to go back so why not that parallel ?

they could have had it like after the whole ambrosia failure bit, yes i know the plot wouldn’t quite let that happen and i wouldn’t have traded the elevator scene for anything bc that was beautiful af BUT i do think that should have happened at some point

and if we’re wanting to keep it all as is, i have a solution .... prepare yourselves: killian marries them at emma’s request on the elevator part and the ring is liam’s ring, the one around her neck, bc the marriage would be for them not for her family and then she could have told mom and dad about it and THEN when killian comes back, they’d have their wedding as the show showed them bc snowing had it the same way too ( tho i do have another rant about season 6 but ya know for later )

ok i also paused midway while writing this to check on their parallels bc i knew there was one where snowing “took” from captainswan which was the “as you wish” on that sapling flashback and omg apparently there are so many more !! ( this is the video i watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJPZaJbyaCU ) and now i’m just extra pissed bc there are so many good ones and like subtle ones !! why did they have to give us the cheap “i will always find you” parallel ??

let me know what you think and what you thought about the snowing / captainswan parallels 

[florida3exclamationpoints]

Emma's holding Hook's hook like they're holding hands awwwww they cute

[castielamigos]

My armor's been on for such a long time that sometimes I forget I don't need it with you.

[dinneratgrannys]

ONCE UPON A TIME 5.20, Firebird

[laschatzi]

Sometimes I'm still astounded at how much the writing in OUAT seasons after season 3 kissed Regina's ass (I'm currently at the end of season 5 in my rewatch)..

Zelena to Regina in 5x20: "Hades can change, everyone can change. When you met Robin Hood, he was a thief!"

Ex-fucking-cuse me, who of the two was the villain again who needed to change?? Robin?? M-kay.