#orv Dionysus

[peacerisendove]

Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint || Episode 166

BWHAHAHAHAHA XD

Dokja can say that all he wants but Uriel and I know he's got an immense amount of chemistry with Junghyeok.

[pttucker]

Scorched black by the electrical wave, Thor and Dionysus began roaring out as if they had gone half-mad. The latter had drunk such a large quantity of wine that his face was completely red, even though the rest of his body remained jet-black. [Booze is going down so smoothly, it's so amaaaazing!] [Now I'm really curious about the taste of label booze. Give me some!] By the time the storm of aftermath for the first shockwave drew to a close, the two Constellations became completely drunk out of their minds. Kyrgios stared at them with criticising eyes before asking me. [My disciple. Are these fools your companions?] "No, total strangers."

Dionysus & Thor are my new favorite characters.

Look at these morons.

I love them.

[1800-page-not-found]

Omg yjh being all "bromance with kdj is over... sad boi hours moment" wait what about the constellations?!?

Uriel would either be, my brotp!!! Or slay kdj

Constellations reacting to kdj getting kisses from you--link of kimco reactions

Uriel's reaction

[the constellation 'Demon-Like Judge of Fire' wants to request baby names]

[the constellation 'Demon-Like Judge of Fire' wants to be an auntie to your children]

She'd be really excited over this relationship

yk how sometimes people will ship characters with different people, (ex. someone shipping kdjxyjh and hsyxkdj or something??)

but instead, its uriel who ships kdjxyjh and kdjxyou

she's really happy

gifts a bunch of coins

Sun Wukong's reaction

pulls his hair out

our balding man frfr

can't believe he has to witness more romance in the future

but he supports kdj so he accepts it

threatens to beat u up if u break kdj's heart

Abyssal Black Flame Dragon's reaction

this kid is hella mad

like-

you incarnations are in the MIDDLE OF AN APOCOLYPSE?

isn't there supposed to be blood and fighting and shit?

one of those teens that go 'ew love'

turns emo

Secretive Plotter's reaction

doesn't really know how to feel tbh

mix of emotions

if he was in persoon he'd be like "woo hoo."

unenthusiastic about this

whenever you guys do something romantic, he becomes silent

watches the two of you intensely from now on

Dionysus's reaction

giggles like his favorite ship came true

encourages you two to drink alcohol

you guys flat-out reject this guy lmao

[anthyies]

hi guys. caught up to the orv webtoon now btw

[righteousenjoymentofthunder]

shit. either hades or persephone is dead, aren't they. if we're going by parallels, i think it would be hades to complete that cycle - kim dokja gets both of his fathers killed.

[shinobi98]

The Persephone and Hades' disrespect here. As if the whole Underworld isn't getting destroyed for Kim Dokja's sake right now.

[freyadragonlord]

Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint - ANIME PREDICTION

Since they announced they are making an ORV anime just a couple of days after I started reading the novel for a second time, I decided to take the chance and try to estimate what the flow of the adaptation is going to be, and how many seasons it’s going to take to adapt the whole story.

(Why? shrug emoji)

Disclaimer! I only read the pre-revision version of the novel, so I cannot take into consideration any change made in the final version of the story beyond the point that is currently been adapted in the webcomic.

For the purpose of this chart, I imagined “standard” anime seasons made of 12 episodes, each around 22-23 minutes long.

I accounted for the fact that the novel’s chapters are longer later on than they are at the beginning, so while for early seasons I estimated that each episode would adapt between 4 and 5 chapters, towards the end it changed to be between 3 and 4 chapters.

I tried to imagine which scenes would take more screen time, and which were more or less likely to be omitted.

Finally, I considered which would be the more effective point to end each season, in order to give it a sense of “completion” and end with an exciting arc.

With that in mind, I estimated that the anime adaptation is going to be 11 seasons long, divided as such:

Season 1 =

Start: The beginning of the novel and the First Scenario. End: Dokja’s first resurrection after fighting the Red Dragon, and him experiencing Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint - Level 3 for the first time. Chapters adapted: 1 to 56/57

Season 1 introduces most of the main characters as well as the rules of the scenarios. The focus of the season is on the conflict between incarnations, showing how the end of the world unearths the ugliest, most ruthless side of certain people – including Dokja –, but also a strong sense of cooperation and companionship.

We also get to know the core aspects of Dokja’s personality: his approach for overcoming the scenarios and tricking incarnations, constellations and dokkaebi alike; his soft spots beneath his mask of coldness; the depth of his relationship with Ways of Survival, and the first hints of his trauma; his strategy to sacrifice himself in order to win.

Season 2 =

Start: Dokja talks with decapitated Sooyoung, and the War of Kings begins. End: Dokja makes three promises to 41st Yoosung after failing to save her, and he beats up Paul. Chapters adapted: 57/58 to 110

While the conflict between incarnations continue with the War of Kings, in this season the role of villains shifts more clearly towards the constellations (particularly the Historical-Grade constellations) and the dokkaebi, and the way they manipulate humans and situations for their own personal gain.

We are introduced to Stories as a crucial source of power and status that incarnation can earn through their action. This season also introduces the remaining main characters of the first part of the novel: Sooyoung, Yoosung, Sookyoung and Seolhwa.

Season 3 =

Start: Dokja makes a deal with Dionysus and goes to the Underworld to recover 41st Yoosung’s soul. End: Dokja learns about his Fate from Dionysus, while his companions destroy Paradise. Chapters adapted: 111 to 168

From the Underworld to Peaceland to the Constellation Banquet to the Dark Castle, this season sees a change of scenery as the characters finally leave Seoul, and they start making friends and foes from other countries (or other dimensions).

Kim Dokja’s Company is created, and Olympus is immediately introduced as one of its greatest opponents, but also as one of their strongest potential allies. In general, as Dokja finally gets to meet the Constellations face to face, some of them turn out to be friendlier and more helpful than expected, while Dokja officially starts the process of becoming a Constellation himself.

Season 4 =

Start: Kim Dokja’s Company wonders who is the person who Dokja loves the most, while Dokja gets kidnapped by his mother. End: Dokja wins the Revolutionary Game, he finds out that Joonghyuk came to look for him in the Demon Realm, and he receives the First Revision of Ways of Survival. Chapters adapted: 169 to 220

This season is about Dokja’s past, his trauma, and his family – the one from his childhood, but also the family he has made since the Apocalypse started, and all the way to him hatching Biyoo’s egg. It’s a season about the people who love Dokja, and the people who Dokja loves, and the length they would go to save each other.

The Fourth Wall’s role in the story becomes central, first in a villainous and then in a helpful way, and a new Wall is introduced through Jang Hayoung. The power of words and Stories grows into a tangent, physical presence, and we get to learn the ways in which Dokja influenced Ways of Survival, both in the past through his comments, and in the present through his actions.

Season 5 =

Start: Dokja learns the content of the First Revision, and he meets Asmodeus for the first time while saving Joonghyuk. End: His constellation supporters incarnate to fight for Dokja, Kim Dokja’s Company wins against Surya, and they earn their first Giant Story after winning the Demon Realm. Chapters adapted: 221 to 275

This season is all about the Demon King Selection, from the moment Dokja and Joonghyuk gain the qualification to participate, to the quest to find stronger allies, and finally to their victory. We get to find out more about Joonghyuk’s past regression, we finally meet one of his greatest enemies – Anna Croft – face to face, and the Transcendents become vital allies of the main characters.

The Constellations (and the Demon Kings) are officially done interacting with the story only indirectly, and they start to physically incarnate into the scenario either to fight against Dokja, or to fight at his side.

Season 6 =

Start: As Kim Dokja’s Company recovers from their last battle, they learn that there is a bigger disaster coming, while more of Eden starts paying attention to Dokja. End: First part of Gigantomachia, Dokja and Joonghyuk kill Ares together. Chapters adapted: 276 to 331/332

The Secretive Plotter is finally, properly introduced in the story, and we start to see hints about the identity of the Outer Gods, as Dokja witnesses the lives of characters from another world. Sooyoung’s importance grows, both in the 1863rd Round and in the main world line, and her role as a strategist is established.

The scenarios’ number rises exponentially, and with it the difficulty of its challenges, as even the strongest Nebulas start to feel threatened. Eden becomes more involved in the story, looking for ways to avoid its destruction, while Olympus tries – and fails – to defend itself from Kim Dokja’s Company’s revenge. The status and power of Dokja’s Nebula begins to grow beyond the Star Stream’s expectations.

Season 7 =

Start: Second part of Gigantomachia, Poseidon and Hades join the battle unexpectedly, and Dokja finds out that his mother was injured. End: Kim Dokja’s Company clears the Kaizenix Archipelago scenario, and they go together through the portal towards the next battle. Chapters adapted: 332/333 to 381

Dokja’s Big Freak Out season. From the agony of having to choose who to save between his own mother and Sangah, to his companions finally finding out about Ways of Survival, Dokja goes through a downward spiral of self-doubt and guilt, culminating in his confrontation with Joonghyuk on Reincarnation Island. Dokja, Sooyoung and Joonghyuk are established as the “reader, writer and protagonist” trio.

The Great War of Saints and Demons is introduced, and angels and devils alike seem to want Dokja’s destruction as much as they wish to destroy each other.

Season 8 =

Start: The Great War of Saints and Demons officially begins, while somewhere in the pit of Hell, a mysterious Apocalypse is awakening. End: Dokja learns the truth about the Outer Gods from Secretive Plotter, and he agrees to help them. Chapters adapted: 382 to 423

This season deals with the different victims of the Story. First, the representatives of the Oldest Good and the Oldest Evil, who cannot help but fight each other even when it brings to their own destruction, because their Stories are so strong that they consume them. Then, those beings the Star Stream determined to be enemies for the constellations and incarnations to fight: the dragons. Finally, the Outer Gods, the “useless characters” that got expelled from the Story and deprived of their memories and identities.

The Secretive Plotter – Yoo Joonghyuk – turns out to be the biggest victim of the Story of all, and Dokja learns a horrible truth about Ways of Survival that partially changes his future plans.

Season 9 =

Start: Dokja and his companions enter (separately) the Journey to the West, while Joonghyuk is haunted by his fight against Secretive Plotter. End: Kim Dokja’s Company successfully recover Hyunsung’s soul, Dokja evolves into a Myth-grade constellation after fighting against Ra, and the group finally feels ready to face the Outer God Kings. Chapters adapted: 424 to 466

This season introduces peculiar scenarios where Kim Dokja’s Company have to roleplay as characters from other stories – first in Journey to the West, then in Oz -, and two new Nebulas (Emperor and Papyrus) try and fail to defeat Dokja and his companions.

Joonghyuk is going through an identity crisis after fighting and losing against another version of himself, which eventually leads him to remember that he’s not actually living in his 3rd Round, but rather the 1864th. The 999th Round becomes central to the plot, first through 999th kkoma working with Dokja, and then by introducing the other Outer God Kings.

Kim Dokja’s Company is really fed up with Dokja sacrificing himself, and even Dokja starts to admit that maybe surviving the apocalypse to live a relaxed life with his companions wouldn’t be so bad.

Season 10 =

Start: Dokja and his mother are healing their relationship, then the battle against the Outer God Kings begins. End: Kim Dokja’s Company work with the Outer God Kings to defeat the Dokkaebi King, and the group manages to save their constellations. Chapters adapted: 467 to 511

This season is battle after battle after battle, and every constellation, incarnation, dokkaebi and Outer God has to join the fight and decide where they stand: either with Dokja, or against him.

The season begins with Dokja talking to his mother, and ends with him seeing (a fake version of) his father. The Outer God Kings start as foes and end as allies. Dokja has to choose what kind of reader he wants to be.

Season 11 =

Start: Kim Dokja’s Company crosses the Final Wall and goes to meet the Oldest Dream. End: The End Chapters adapted: 512 to 551

The Reveal and the Epilogue. We learn what it truly means to be a reader, to be a writer, and to be a protagonist. The end.

[headphonemouse]

I'm gonna be so disappointed when Dionysus finally appears in orv manhwa and he doesn't look like the guy from Hades the videogame

[lee-hakhyun]

jesus c h r i s t even in canon lee hakhyun makes bad decisions while drunk

did that abo side story author read star writer before making lee hakhyun write abo joongdok while drunk. did they write it in a stroke of inspiration after machine translating star writer themself. because i have to commend them for how canon-accurate it’s turning out on several levels

by god lee hakhyun should have known not to drink and write after the first time

RIGHT that was like the only thing on my mind as i was reading the mtl of that chapter i cannot believe how accurate the fic got him ;;;;

somewhere in his head there's probably a orv fanfic that he wrote while drunk that haunts him at night

i shudder to think of what could happen if dionysus takes an interest an lhh

[veroraine]

actually ignore that other one. top 5 orv constellations. Are u still at gigantomachia (gl with the uni work 🖤)

i had a hard time choosing only 5 lmao:

demon king of salvation <333

uriel

secretive plotter

abyssal black flame dragon

dionysus

i'm at the beginning of reincarnation island! i'm gonna get back to reading more as soon as i finish writing this stupid thesis (which might have a part inspired by orv. who knows 👀)

[betawooper]

ok my thoughts on the orv official designs now that i can actually look at them

sun wukong has a mullet why does he look like that [sob]

oh fuck metatron has long hair umm, i dont think im gonna change my description of him in the au bc whatever

nirvana gnc af

oh ive been imagining dionysus with a pot belly this whole time, still gonna do that bc fat king

i was right the breaking the sky sword saint’s design is boring af, my imagined design for her is much better

oh fuck hayoung has short hair,,,, im gonna keep my imagined design for her though bc cringe (i will consider the blonde thing though)

mia has twin tails? thats so cute

kyrgios’s design is sick as fuck, probably the best and most interesting of anyone ive seen honestly

[pttucker]

"The end of the scenario is fixed. Is that what you want to say?" As Giant Briareus stated, fate couldn't be averted. Ares had also said it. This scenario was just the development of a causal event that was scheduled. Yes, that's right. Perhaps their words were correct. "If the end is fixed, is there any meaning in the process?" [It must be meaningful but that is just being romantic. As a result, it is recorded as a failed story.] "Are all failed stories meaningless? Even if you know you will fail, isn't the story of those who have fought to the end worth it?" [Constellations like those stories but those who do so are bound to die.] "It is a possibility. Then what about this? Someone who is influenced by the story tries to challenge the same story again." At this moment, Dionysus opened his mouth. "10 times, 100 times, 1000 times. What if many constellations and incarnations are affected by the story and live such a story again?" Failure might be scheduled but the countless beings built up a story of courage as they confronted the given fate over and over again. What if they accumulated stories about challenges and challenged them in another way. "Then are the failed stories useless?"

Man, maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I'm getting such weird vibes from this scene.

Like, I get that he's talking about all of the incarnations and constellations that came before him, including to this very event, and together they have built up a story that a single individual alone couldn't achieve, similar to how the continuous repeating of Gigantomachia itself is what gives it most of its power. (And also this is obviously a metaphor for Joonghyuk's life.)

But the whole repeated talk about fate and the end of the story and a single story and the Fourth Wall narrating ORV itself along with this general idea of "was the entire story pointless if it ended in tragedy?" makes me worry a little that I'm reading a tragedy right now and this is major foreshadowing for the novel itself. 😬

On the complete opposite hand, it also makes me think that this is not the first time that Dokja (and everyone else) has gone through this story? Like maybe Dokja has done this all before without knowing it and this time it's going to end properly.

Or perhaps that it goes back to my old idea that Dokja is the author and he regretted how the story ended and now he's changing it. (After having forgotten that he's the author like Asuka Ren.)

idk, I could just be looking too deeply into it and Dokja is perhaps just upset because he's read 1863 rounds of the same story and seen that the outcome is not fixed and all of the failed rounds were not useless, both to the original 1863rd Joonghyuk and to him, now, who is using knowledge of those 1863 attempts to create revisions of TWSA as he personally changes the story.

[kuroken-lovechild]

just realized whenever I read the orv novel and dionysus comes up I picture his hades design

[snarp]

Is ORV!Dionysus heterosexual. Why

[my-yoyogurt]

Dionysus in Korean Media (webtoon/manhwa/animation)

Webtoon:

"Omniscient Reader" (2022)

Educational Manhwa(comics):

"The Greek and Roman Myths in Comics" - Hong Eun-young (2002)

"Song Hye-Lyeong's Greek and Roman Myths" - Song Hye-lyeong (2013)

"Olympus Chronicles" - Kim Jae-hoon (2021)

"The Greek and Roman Myths" - Cho Sung-kyeong (2021)

Animation:

"Olympus Guardian" (2002)

Children's educational books:

[bichenishere]

SW: aww were like a big happy family and I'm the dad and Plotter's the mom

SP: why am I the mom!?, what gender roles are we pushing here?!

ABFD: I know they're probably thinking I'm like the son but I'm not I'll be the gay omo cous

Dionysus: I will be the SON the hotshot who's only dream is to be a star

Metatron: I feel like I'll be a fresh out of jail uncle

Uriel: and I'm the sassy aunt who talk sh!t about everyone