#or anatole and hélène?

[ladystrallan]

The book: literally called War and Peace

Me anytime it’s the war part:

[kinglindwyrm]

said to portend untold horrors and end of the world (or, those left behind)

[pixies992]

did you know they’re actually bringing back Great Comet off-broadway like little shop of horrors with this cast and it will be running indefinitely and be a smash hit equivalent to Les Mis

NATASHA: Jana Djenne Jackson (Kill the Whale; Little Shop of Horrors)

PIERRE: Gabriel Ebert (Matilda; Preludes)

ANATOLE: Bryce Pinkham (A Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder; Little Shop of Horrors)

SONYA: Laufey (grammy)

HÉLÈNE: Phillipa Soo (Hamilton; Natasha, Pierre & the Great Comet of 1812)

new video because the old one doesn't work:

MARYA: Julie Benko (Funny Girl; Harmony)

PRINCESS MARY: Jessie Buckley (Cabaret; War & Peace 2016)

DOLOKHOV: George Abud (Lempicka; Emojiland)

BOLKONSKY: Brandon Uranowitz (Falsettos; Titanic, Encores!)

BALAGA/OPERA SINGER: Joseph Keckler (Preludes)

[stars-and-the-sky]

the great comet but everyone is a trans lesbian

[hslcat]

I've fallen into Great Comet.

This is based on the lyrics to "Prologe" from Natasha, Pierre and the Great Comet of 1812.

I will probably make a cleaner version at some point.

Progress pictures:

[bleachersgirl]

My dealer: got some straight gas 🔥😛 this strain is called “the great comet of 1812” 😳 you’ll be zonked out of your gourd 💯

Me: yeah whatever. I don’t feel shit.

5 minutes later: dude I swear I just saw hélène bezukhova making out with marya dmitryevna

My buddy Anatole walking with his uniform unbuttoned walking to and fro to and fro to and fro to and fro to and fro to and fro to and fro:

[honey-and-pie]

y'all ever think abt how balaga is fun, bolkonsky is crazy, mary is plain, dolokhov is fierce, hélène is a slut, anatole is hot, marya is old-school, sonya is good, natasha is young and andrey isn’t here??? like does it ever occur to you... and like.. what about pierre 🤨🤨 ????

[nastassyafilippovna]

Anatole stealing Hélène’s gowns but not filling them out bc hélène is fatter than her is so beautiful to me. Like yeah she’s trying to look pretty in her sisters nice dresses but she just looks bad. It’s not a good look she needs to stuff a bra at least

[princesskuragina]

wait omg I missed the asoiaf reference in gc, what is it?

It's here!

Actually do the post-2017 fans know about the treasure trove of Dave Malloy's annotations on the off-broadway genius lyrics. Where he canoninzes Anatole foot fetish (horrifying consequences on the fandom) and mentions a cut Hélène line that has been living in my head for six years

[officialleotolstoy]

1, 18 and 21. Burn the wap fandom alive baby

1. The character everyone gets wrong:

I already talked about Pierre in my other answer, so I’m going to go with a weird pair of characters: Marya B and Anatole. With Marya B, people love to just turn her into a soft girl cottagecore lesbian stereotype character and ignore all of the nuance she has. She helped essentially run the estate when her father was dying and whipped everyone into shape when no one else stepped up. She basically raised Nikolushka for her absent brother. She was relieved her father was dying and felt horribly guilty about it. She helps out people down on their luck out of the goodness of her heart even though her family disapproves. She’s so much more than just a cute sweet girl that can be dismissed because she’s “soft” and “boring”. She can be soft AND strong AND interesting.

As for Anatole, everyone treats him like he’s either a haha silly stupid guy who just makes mistakes and doesn’t think and infantilizes him to excuse his actions like he’s not a grown adult man OR treats him like some evil mastermind heartbreaker who just wants to hurt people. He is neither of those things. He’s too stupid to be actively manipulative but he’s also too self absorbed to care if anyone gets hurt while he pursues what he wants. He’s not innocent and naive but he’s not calculated either. His major problem is that he is horribly horribly selfish. He’s the worst and I hate him forever still of course

18. It’s absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on…

My usual answer is Vera Rostova, but it seems there’s been a bit of a revolution around her recently. Not really sure what’s going on in Veraland but I salute you all. So I’m changing my answer to Boris! He is one of the guys ever and we need to talk about him more. He’s ambitious he’s driven he’s a mommy’s boy he wrote his wife emo poetry and doesn’t even like her anyway. He’s friends (or something…) with Hélène. The guy ever

Also Petya!!! He’s sooo interesting as a parallel to Nikolai and a tragic cautionary tale about idealizing war. The scene between him and that young French prisoner of war haunts me forever

21. Part of canon you think is overhyped:

I want to say the philosophy rants but NO ONE is hyping that up lmao. I’m going to go with the bear cop river thing. Don’t get me wrong I love that bit but people talk about it like its a whole volume of misadventures when it’s literally mentioned once in passing

[emeraldelysium]

omg it's the duel between pierre and dolokhov! (rambling analysis between the show and the book under the cut)

it's really interesting to compare these chapters to the duel (song). in the book, this happens far before the whole thing with anatole and natasha (like 6 years before). notably some characters & lines are different, all in favor of how the plot in the show has to move a lot faster, e.g. several paragraphs when dolokhov misses his shot become just three lines in the song ("missed, missed / oh my mother, my angel / my adoréd angel mother"). nesvitsky becomes anatole, and nikolay, who is dolokhov's second, is absent (denisov does get to stay though!) anatole being pierre's second is both for the convenience of a known character (the cast is cut WAY down in the show, for obvious reasons) and to further pierre & anatole's relationship for the audience. in the book, nesvitsky has to tell pierre how to hold a gun because he's never done so before (and then goes "oh yeah, i totally knew that. i just…forgot" because he doesn't want to admit it lol), which comes out in anatole's lines warning pierre to hold his fire. book pierre also seems more reluctant/willing to admit how stupid this is, but his apathy makes him go through with it (anatole is the one to acknowledge this instead, which is a great line because lucas steele is amazing "OOOOHHH this is horribly stupid :(", and pierre's apathy is shown in the show through his reply to hélène (who is there in the show but absent in the book, good for both showing their terrible relationship and to make the audience think pierre died for a sec) it makes sense for musical pierre to be more caught up in the heat of the moment though, and regret it afterwards, which leads nicely into dust & ashes

[misrepresentedmorallygrey]

Once Again, God Forbid women do anything

PROPAGANDA

Dahlia Propaganda

"The fandom hates her so bad. She's the antagonist of the trilogy, so I understand some dislike of course but they hate her SO MUCH. she's a 14 year old girl with a twin sister, she gets dragged into crime by her cop step sister and her pedophilic teacher, dahlia betrays them both, steals the money for herself and abandons them. she slowly goes on a downward spiral in an attempt to protect herself. at college age, she kills her step sister and the teacher in an attempt to not be found and charged for the past crimes. the defense attorney for the case questions her testimony and she poisons him. the rest is just her continuing on that path and killing, attacking or blaming anyone who threatens her safety. this is a BASIC reading of her character. The fandom cannot understand this. they think dahlia seduced the teacher and that she's a crazy bitch. the games themself hate her. there's a male character who's so similar to her but WORSE (no backstory) and the fandom fucking loves him. But, dahlia? she's hated so much for no real good reason. I'm not talking dislike of her choices, but calling her a crazy bitch and refusing to look into WHY she acts like that and what lead to her demise. it's so ridiculous."

"she is based"

"Hell, she was fucked over by the writing itself, too. She's written to be this cold, unfeeling, master manipulator and was portrayed as the one at fault in a relationship she had with a 20-year-old when she was FOURTEEN. She's basically treated as this evil temptress who makes boys fall in love with her and then hurts them. It's. It's pretty bad."

Helene Propaganda

"while already being a character whose narrative purpose was basically to show how much leo tolstoy hates women, the fandom makes it so, so much worse, playing up her supposed "villainy" over that of even what tolstoy writes. constantly i've seen people say that she deserved being threatened and almost killed by her husband because she's? a bitch, i guess? like her husband literally throws a marble slab at her and yells "i'll kill you!" at her and tolstoy implies that if hélène hadn't run away he literally would have and i've seen people say that they wish he had solely because their marriage made him unhappy, when the marriage wasn't her choice either. later on in the book, she aids her brother, anatole, in an attempt to elope with the female protag and i've seen people say that hélène was Worse than anatole, the one trying to elope w/ an engaged girl solely because he wanted to sleep with her, because hélène should have "known better" while anatole was just a stupid guy... do they not see how fucked it is to excuse a man's direct actions and blame it on a woman for not stopping him? any defense of her character is constantly met with people saying that she's one-dimensional and not worth defending because she's meant to be an antagonist — without looking at the fact that she's written that way because she represents what Tolstoy, a misogynistic old man, hates in women. with literally the slightest shred of context it's obvious that she is not the villain tolstoy makes her out to be. how a fandom in 2023 shares the same beliefs abt women that a man in the 1860s does is completely baffling"

[jeanie-g]

spotify wrapped sounds cool!!

how about jamie and trevor and #83?

alright, so this wound up being the first song in a musical called "Natasha, Pierre & the Great Comet of 1812" lol.....so it's au time!!!

[#83] Prologue (Cast of Great Comet)

There's a war going on out there somewhere /And Andrey isn't here

• Trevor (in all his protagonist glory) is our Natasha. "Natasha is young," and Trevor is naive. He sees the good in everyone. It takes Alex to keep him tethered to Earth, content to float up into the sky and dream his silly dreams.

• Alex is our Sonya ("Natasha's cousin and closest friend") - a realist who loves Trevor like a brother. He came to Moscow to also wait out his beloved fighting in the war (Cam). But he can't see everything Trevor does. Every sticky situation he gets himself into...

• That's what Quinn is for, our Marya—the Dad™️ of the group ("Natasha's godmother, strict yet kind"), wrangling the two youngins and knocking some sense into them as needed. No one disgraces the family name in his house!!

• And more important than Alex, perhaps, Trevor has Mason, our Andrey. Trevor thinks he loves Mason, and he's stuck in Moscow until this stupid war is over and he can be married and whisked away on a troika back to St. Petersburg, back to his proper life. But until then, "Andrey isn't here."

• And in comes our Anatole, Jack. "Anatole is hot": he's a wily, smooth-talking noble who can't keep it in his pants and wants that cookie (Trevor) so effing bad. He's stubborn and impulsive, but you gotta give credit where credit's due—he's determined.

• Cole would be our Hélène (Jack's "brother") because "Hélène is a slut," and Nick Suzuki would agree. Cole's the "queen of society" - everyone wants to be him, and everyone wants him. Including....Jack, cuz they have this weird eroticism going on (real brojobs at worlds type shit), so...

• Jack's partner in crime is Luke, our Dolokhov, "Anatole's friend, a crazy good shot," who enables Jack in all his dumb plans until the last second, when he's like "Okay dude maybe this is actually dumb". He has a thing for Cole...even though Cole is married! Though that didn't stop Jack.

• Jack swindles captures Trevor's heart and they create a proper scandal by snogging at the opera. And even though Jack is already married (fuck it; to Nico), he wants to elope with Trevor.

• And is this the life Trevor wants? Is this what love is? A whirlwind romance? Or will he find the life he wants with someone quieter....and caring....kind......

• like Jamie! Our Pierre ("Dear, bewildered, and awkward Pierre"), who has a lot of growth over this story. Jamie is at a crossroads. He's unhappy in his marriage to Cole, who despises him. He writes his letters to his best friend Mason, and feels guilty he can't fight in the war (due to his injuries). Trevor is a shining light in his life, but he never once considered there could be something more between them.

• What will happen? We'll have to see....

[nastasyafilippovnabarashkova]

Ok here is my list s I can pin it . It is fun to write out their full names even if it makes me look isnane.

jimmy list:

MAIN F/Os:

Nastasya Filippovna Barashkova 🫠

Varvara Petrovna Stavrogina 🪆

Katerina Lvovna Ismailova 🍧

[Tolstoy]

Princess Marya Nikolayevna Bolkonskaya ⛪️

Princess Anna Mikhailovna Drubetskaya 🤭

Julie Karagina 🥀

Countess Hélène Vasilyevna Bezukhova 🕯️

Anna Arkadyevna Karenina 🚂

[Dostoevsky]

Elena Ivanovna 🐊

Katerina Ivanovna Marmaladova 🩻

Aglaya Ivanovna Yepanchina 🦔

Agrafena “Grushenka” Alexandrovna Svetlova 🧅

Yulia Mikhailovna Von Lembke 🫖

Katerina Osipovna Khokhlakova ⚜️

[Others]

Anna Sergeevna Odintsova 🦚 (Fathers and Sons)

Avdotia “Evdoksya” Nikitishna Kukshina (Fathers and Sons)

Yelena Andreevna Serebryakova 🎹 (Uncle Vanya)

Anna Petrovna Voynitseva (Platonov)

Tisbe (La Cenerentola)

Caroline Bingley (Pride and Prejudice)

Lady Susan Vernon (Lady Susan)

Rebecca "Becky" Crawley (Vanity Fair)

And Anatole Kuragin 🦆 is my main platonic guy

That is all.

[boydykedevo]

2 am urge to reread all of war and peace so you can write for your fave toxic ot3 again. Anatole/Dolokhov/Hélène u will always be famous

[marmaladeships]

F/o List

Romantic

Main F/o’s(uncomfortable sharing)

•Pierre Bezukhov(The Great Comet)

Tags:

~🧸My Cuddly Bear🧸~

~🧸The Bear and The Squirrel 🐿️ ~

•William Shakespeare(Something Rotten(Christian Borle)

Tags:

~🪶It’s Hard to Be The Bard🪶~

•(Young)Charles Xavier(X-men)

Tags:

~😈🔮~

~PsychicDæmon~

(They’re almost always on my mind:3)

F/o’s I’m currently hyper fixated on:

•The 4th Doctor(Doctor Who)

Tags:

~🍬Have a Jelly Baby🍬~

~🌌Me and The Doctor🌌~

•Sweeney Todd(2023 Revival)

Tags:

~🩸Sick at Heart🩸~

~🪒Pretty Men🪒~

•The 7th Doctor

Tags:

~❓~

•Oleg Salt(CaTCF)(Broadway version only)

Tags:

~🧂When Veruca Says🧂~

~ 💗💜💙~

•Patrick Bateman(American psycho)

Tags:

~🔪Hip to be Square🩸~

•Kurt Wagner(Nightcrawler)(X-men)

Tags:

~💙Fwuffy boy💙~

•King John(Robin Hood 2010)

Tags:

None yet

•Terzo(Ghost Band)

Tags:

~✨Can't you see that you're lost without me?✨~

F/o Limbo

•Oz,The Great and Powerful(Oscar Diggs)

The Wizard of Oz

Tags:

~💚Me and The Wizard💚~

Secondary F/o’s

•Karl Heisenberg(Re8)

Tags:

~⚙️Hobo Magneto⚙️~

~🤴Beauty and The Beast 🐺~

•Remy LeBeau(X-Men Comics)

Tags:

N/a

•Erik Destler(Poto)

Tags:

~🪽My Angel🪽~

•Wilford Warfstache(MEU)

Tags:

~💕Life needs a little Madness💕~

•Mephisto Pheles(Blue Exorcist)

Tags:

~💜Mephisto💜~ 

•Gale Dekarios(Bg3)

Tags:

~🪄I’m Going to Fistfight Mystra🪄~

•Raphael(Bg3)

Tags:

~😈Me and The Devil😈~

•The Easter Bunny(Rotg)

Tags:

N/a

•Montgomery Gator(FNAF)

Tags:

~🐊Hey!Little Guy!🐊~

Clowns 

•Jack the Clown(Jack Schmidt)(Halloween Horror Nights)

•Krusty the Clown(The Simpsons)

Joint Tags:

~🤡Hear me out guys🤡~

QPR’s

•Emmett ‘Doc’ Brown(Bttf)

Tags:

~⏱️Time Travel Buddies⏱️~

•Jack Rose(Just Dance)

Tags:

~🌹Lover Boy🌹~

•Skimbleshanks 

Tags:

~🐈A Cat That Cannot be ignored🐈~

•Darkwing Duck(Darkwing Duck)

Tags:

~🦆Daring Duck 🦆~

•Sportacus(LazyTown)

Tags:

N/a

Stede Bonnet + Edward Teach(Ofmd)

Tags:

~🐙The Gentleman,The Kracken and Me🐙~

•Darkiplier(MEU)

Tags:

~🥀My Hearts Desire🥀~

•Illinois(MEU)

Tags:

~🎢My First Adventure🎢~

Crushes

•Raoul De Chagny(Poto)

Tags:

~❤️The Vicomte❤️~

•Scrooge(Muppets+Netflix Version)

Tags:

~🦪Solitary as an Oyster 🦪~

•Dracule Mihawk(Opla)

Tags:

N/a

•Aziraphale and Crowley(GO)

Tags:

~👼I can be yuor angle👼~

~😈Or yuor devil😈~

•Anatoly Sergievsky(Chess)

Tags:

~♟️~

Maybe F/o’s

•Marvin Gardens(Falsettos)

Tags:

None yet 

Special Case F/os

(these are special because it they were my first f/o or they have some sort of meaning)(Won’t post about these much)

•Johann Faust the VIII(Shaman King)

Tags:

~♥️First Love♥️~

•William Afton

Tags:

N/a

•Grell Sutcliffe(Black Butler)

~💋My Fabulous Wife💋~

•Arataki Itto (Genshin Impact)

Tags:

~Boyfie~

•Carlisle Cullen(Twilight)

Tags:

~🧛‍♂️Hey Edward!Im f*cking your dad!🧛‍♂️~

•Yancy(MEU)

Tags:

~🚫I don’t wanna be free🚫~

•Royal Margarine Cookie(Crk) 

Tags:

~🐉The Handsome Dragon Rider🧈~

•Remy LeBeau (Gambit)(X-men)

Tags:

~

Tertiary F/os

(Don’t talk about these ones much so none of them have tags)

Overall Tag:

The Doctor’s Loves

•Bowser •King Dice  •Doc Ock  •Puss in Boots  •Finn Mcmissle  •Godbrand •Emperor Belos •Ken(Barbie Movie 2023)

•Spamton.G.Spamton

•Calico Jack(Ofmd)

•The Narrator

•Divus Crewel

•Vinsmoke Sanji

•Cole Cassidy

Familial F/os

(None of these have tags except for a few)

Sun/Moon(Fnaf)

Caretaker

Tags:N/a

Allan+Midge(Barbie Movie)

Brother+Sister-in-law

Tags:N/a

Anatole+Hélène Kuragin(The Great Comet)

Brother+Sister

Tags:~😈The Troublesome Trio😈~

Eda Clawthorne(Toh)

Mother

Tags:~🦢birb🦢~

Glamrock Freddy(FNAF)

Father

Tags:~✨You’re my Superstar✨~

Stanley(Tsp)

Twin Brother

Tags:~⁉️Wait!Two Stanley’s?!?!?⁉️~

Adam+Barbara Maitland(Beetlejuice)

Parents

Tags:~🧟Fright of their lives🧟~

Nellie Lovett(2023 Revival+Movie)

Mother

Tags:~🥧Me Mum🥧~

Ethan+Mia Winters(Resident Evil)

Brother+Sister-in-law

Tags:~❄️The Winters❄️~

The 12th+14th Doctor(Doctor Who)

Dads

Tags:~🙄Do you even know what thinking is?🙄

~🌌Wibbly Wobbily Timey Wimey🌌~

~🌌You’re like my dad!🌌~

The 11th Doctor(Doctor Who)

Brother-Figure

Tags

~🎀Bow ties are cool🎀~

Platonic F/os

Willy Wonka(CaTCF)

Tags:

~🌈Pure Imagination🌈~

Retired F/os

(Still kinda love them but not enough for them to be f/os)

•Shota Aizawa •Hizashi Yamada •Keigo Takami •Zhongli •Keaya •Diluc •Baizhu

•Undertaker •Sebastian Michaelis •Phone guy(Scott) •Asmodeus(Obey me)  •Gold Rodger •Almond cookie