#on the right we got: Jeff Blim Hidgens
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theguywholikedmusicals42 · 8 months ago
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So Hatchetfield fandom
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mind-lost-in-the-stars · 11 days ago
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since there’s been talk and rumors of TGWDLM rerun in 2025 (PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPL-), I’d thought I’d give my two cents on what I think would be a fun (if extremely unrealistic) casting since Robert got the boot
Hidgens: Jeff Blim- he’s got the manic energy down perfectly; he would be able to balance the silly and the serious very well, and we’ve already seen him play the role so it just kinda makes sense to me
Davidson: James Tolbert- now, technically speaking Jeff could reprise his role as Davidson if the characters in the ensemble changed for “let it out”, but I think James would fucking slay “what do you want Paul” and it would be a genuine delight to see his silliness and amazing news put into Davidson
Sam (Charolette’s cop husband): Will Branner- the vibes just fit idk what else to tell you, we already know he can play a good-looking-terrible-meaning-character and THE THINGS I WOULD DO TO HEAR THIS MAN SING “YOU TIED UP MY HEART” IS NOT FUNNY
besides those three, I would wanna keep the rest of the show the same since I can’t imagine other actors playing those roles <3
other thoughts:
- if the do the hot chocolate scene again, they would have to have Joey quick change into Peter right??? idk it would so fun to see the Peter we know and love today in his original debute
-also, if Joey has to do that, and we need another cop for “show me your hands”….dare I say curt mega plsssss; his voice would be so good for a wailing siren lol
-also also that theory about Max being infected during la dee dah dah day could finally be confirmed if they bring will back for the show (it could also be confirmed by a different actor wearing Max’s costume)
would they keep the show as being in 2018, or would they update it for the current year cause if they do, there might also be classic line changes such as “sing the beginning of Moana!”, but I doubt they would take out such loved lines
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gone-to-oregone · 5 years ago
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okay, so it’s been brought up in bits, but let’s talk about the similarities of Guy and BF. y’all know that post about the spider verse heroes’ worlds being slightly different, like their memes and whatnot? i think that’s how this situation is, where the same things happen, or at least similar things
i’ll edit this post as i go, but here’s what i have so far:
dialogue:
- “Okay. Okay. Okay.”
- “I’m authorizing you to use my firearm.”
- “Wear a watch!”
- “Should we grab these chairs? I’ll get the piano!” “Should we take these boxes? Fuck yeah!”
- “I have this kooky, reclusive biology professor-“
actions:
- ethan/hannah’s “floss” dance and the smoke club kids
- the specific way Macnamera twirls his gun to Paul and Lex
- the LDDDD/SSN dances in Deck The Halls
themes:
- the bit Ted said about “going for the head” and Becky shooting Linda in the head/Curt’s line character and Gary kicking Ethan in the head to kill him
- want. similar to Guy where you got infected by wanting (Bill with his daughter, Charlotte with Sam, etc) BF also deals with want. everyone wants a wiggly for different reasons, like Becky wanting one for the kids at the hospital, Tom wanting one to get Tim to love him, Lex and Ethan to get to California, etc.
music:
I ranted about this in a group chat, but it wasn’t very cohesive (nor will it be cohesive here) but basically the themes of the songs in Guy match up, though not perfectly, with the songs in BF. for instance:
- Wiggly Jingle/The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals: a seemingly goofy opening number that basically tells the plot through the main antagonist’s eyes. (TGWDLM with them singing about the apotheosis and needing Paul, Wiggly Jingle about Wiggly ‘taking over people’s hearts and souls’)
- What Tim Wants/What Do You Want, Paul?: these are both pretty straight-forward. we hear Tom and Mr. Davidson sing about what they want to no one in particular (well, WDYWP was to someone in particular, but you get it)
-CaliforMIA/La Dee Dah Dah Day: characters longing for a new life/recalling the new life that has just happened
- Our Doors Are Open/Cup of Roasted Coffee: a seemingly innocent song about the main female lead (Lex and Emma) going about their normal work day, super simple and easy, nothing could go wrong
- Feast or Famine/Cup of Poisoned Coffee: in which the previous song and the character’s life gets turned on its head
- Monsters and Men/You Tied Up My Heart: using appeal to a secondary character to ensure them that everything is and will be fine, both coincidently sung by Jeff Blim
- Deck The Halls/Show Stoppin’ Number: both second act songs that simultaneously do and don’t make sense to the plot (nor were either supposed to be as big and loved by the audience). Both also coincidently sung by Robert Manion
- Made In America/America is Great Again/Join Us And Die: technically villain songs, in which we learn more about the villain and their wants and needs. ‘that one concrete goal that motivates all their actions’ if you will. also Made in America/America is Great Again are both songs about twisting the phrase ‘the american dream (or, to quote HMB, “the american way”) into something evil
- Black Friday/Not Your Seed: ballad about the death, or apparent death, of a character (of the same age, or nearly the same age) and is a huge driving point to the plot (Alice with Bill’s death, and Lex with her survival)
- If I Fail You/Let It Out: a last-ditch effort to stop the big bad and make everything right in the world
- Inevitable/What If Tomorrow Comes: everything seems to be resolved, but ultimately is not
- Let Him Come/ Wiggle: second act songs that are sung by the “evil” characters and precedes the show’s climax. Both songs also mention the coming of a character played by Jon Matteson- Paul in TGWDLM and Wiggly in Black Friday ( from breakthefifthwall )
we also hear the interlude to La Dee Dah Dah Day when Emma and Paul are in Tom’s home
the ‘aliens invading minds’ interlude plays in Made In America when Wiley says ‘the prophet has been chosen, and she will bring about his birth’ ( from wont-you-be-my-neighbor-totoro )
‘not my father’s hopeless seed’ is sung by Lex in Black Friday, in reference to Not Your Seed ( from anon )
in What If Tomorrow Comes, Curt’s character has Peanuts in his hoodie pocket ( from fluffyhales )
when Macnamera is introduced in the show (and a few times after) the interlude to America Is Great Again plays ( from anon )
characters:
- Paul
- Emma
- Man in a Hurry
- Homeless Man
- Macnamera
- Charlotte
- Mr. Davidson
- Ted
- Hot Chocolate Boy
- Bill
- Hidgens (mentioned)
please, if you can think of any more, let me know, and i’ll add them in
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popculturebuffet · 4 years ago
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Nightmare Time Episode 1 Review: The Hatchetfield Ape-Man/Watcher World
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I take a look at the first episode of Starkid’s new show Nightmare Time! Starkid, returns for a zoomcast, bringing back the casts of both Hatchefield plays for an anthology series of science fiction double feature picture shows! This week’s tales of terror:
The Hatchefield Ape-Man: A british heiress gets romanced by a shaved bigfoot with the help of everyone’s favorite kooky college professor. Forgotten fiances, murder and described nudity naturally insue. 
Watcher World: Bill and Alice return as Bill drags his daughter to a kitschy theme park for a day of family fun, which Alice enjoys and is as respectful about as much as you’d expect. As you’d also expect given Bill’s general luck, things take a turn for the Shining real quick. Spoilers and full review under the cut. 
Well this was a nice suprise. With the ongoing pandemic I genuinely did not think Starkid would be back anytime soon. Having just gotten back into them this years after several years of forgetting they existed via the Hatchetfield plays, I was pretty bummed, if understanding. So last week’s announcment of not only this series but a full scripted series from their sister production company the tin bros was a HUGE shot of happy I needed in this troubling times. Still need to watch spies are forver love the soundtrack nto important. 
Point is the Lang Brothers and their merry band of actors found a way to continue on via  format I didn’t realize existed outside of table reads but is a nice way to do things: The Zoomcast, basically a podcast done live on zoom, with the actors in plainclothes for the most part, with one person, in this case Nick Lang, reading out descriptions of what’s going on. Being a starkid production this also has musical director Matt Bohm playing accompaniment and pretaped if still via the actor’s own camera musical numbers. Overall while i’ts an understandably cheap production, only what costumes the actors have on hand and most props mimed, it WORKS, allowing for way more elaborate set pieces than the stage would allow and is anchored by Lang’s impeccable descriptions and the cast’s amazing as always acting really making the stories pop.  So things worked on a technical level despite having the barest of bones to work with. But did it work on a story level? Well yes, but if I ended my reviews with just that i’d have less than the 3 or 4 fans I do have, so without further ado, it’s nightmare time! The Intro: 
Now normally in my reviews I don’t talk about the intro because I come in mid way or because I just didn’t think to. This is an exception since 
A) I should be doing that anyway or at least when I cover a show’s first episode since intro’s are sometimes one of the most memorable parts of a show 
B) It’s a full musical number that’s been stuck in my head since the trailer for this series and has now set up an apartment there.  C) This series is a musical, if not to the same degree as the two plays before it, so it’d be weird NOT to talk about it’s signature song. 
So with that out of the way the intro.. is fucking impressive. Seriously taking disparate videos with probably as much as the directions “Sing this part of the song and be kind of creepy or alluring or whatever” and making it really flow? Good work, both to the starkids for bringing their a game to it as always and to Nick and Matt really did a good job   editing this together, musically and visually to be an abolute jawdrop. And somehow finding utterly stunning stock image animations that none of us realized were stock footage but still fit the tone perfectly. Just great stuff.  Some stray notes: Mariah is absolutely stunning in both voice and apperance in this, John Matheson’s bit as paul was great, and Jeff Blim of course got a great bit with his always astounding hair blowing in the breeze with him at full high pitch. Just an utterly great intro, and for Starkid’s first series in over a decade, and really ever but semantics, they really brought it. Good stuff. Onto the actual episode content. 
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The Hatchetfield Ape-Man: Lucy, a british heiress played by Angela Giarratana, was saved by the legendary “Hatchefield Ape-Man”.. who apparently has a hyphen like spider-men because while sasquatches can do that. Point is she’s come back every year in the hopes of reuniting with her savior but has so far failed.  But as Lucy prepares to leave from this year’s failed expedition, an old friend finally gives her what she needs... old friend to us to her she’s just some grey haired lunatic who showed up out of the mist. Which while accurate, dosen’t quite quantify everyone’s favorite playwright/college professor/murderous psychopath/composer.
Yes at long last Professor Hidgens has returned! I honestly didn’t expect the anthology to bring in such a huge fan faviorite so soon. I mean I expected returning characters, mostly because the project allows old faviorites to come back for their own stories or for the stars of the musicals to get a chance at a much happier ending... there’s a lot of potetial there. That and let’s face it “Jane’s a Car” is a pretty dead giveaway it’s going to be about Tom’s dead wife and Tim’s dead mother coming back in horrible mash up of christine and my mother the car. Maybe. I could be wrong. I also doubt many of you know what my mother the car is and to that I say it’s an old sitcom i’m honestly suprised I know exists and know nothing about other than the title and it being about a son’s mom’s ghost possesing his car apparently. Well that and it was the basis for this. 
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Point is, while I expected some returns, I wasn’t expecting one this large and this bombastic so soon, but BOY was it welcome.  So getting back on track after all that, HIdgens seemingly takes Lucy to meet her ape man, who goes by the name Klonk, played by everyone’s faviorite sexy caveman Joey Richter. Also it’s adorable he and Lauren share a streaming screen. I know practicality and all that but their engagment is genuinely a sweet thing to hear about at a time when the world’s going down the toilet fast. Fun Fact: I pegged the Ape-Man was either going to be Jeff or Joey, leaning towards Jeff, though given my love of Joey I wasn’t disapointed with him, especially with the twist... but I was EXASTIC to learn the answer was basically “Both.. kinda?”. But yeah Lucy soon bonds with the ape man, with HIdgens encouraging her since it’s more than he’s gotten out of Klonk in 11 months of looking after the guy, and this way they can get him to learn enough to decide what he wants for himself. 
So a few months, and some romantic bonding between woman and ape-man, pass but a wrench is thrown into Klonk’s wooing and attempt to tell lucy he loves her: Jonathan, Lucy’s just now mentioned fiance and royal dickhead played by Kurt Mega. And credit where it’s do whlie he clearly didn’t have to dress up, he did have a nice 50′s monster movie british person suit he put on.  Lucy is now conlficted and what not even though Jonathan is kind of an asshole who just wants to drag her back home. And i’ts not like Lucy didn’t keep in touch: she sent him texts and probably called, so i’ts not like he didn’t know she was here. He’s also a hunter for extra dick points as if he needed them.  Naturally when meeting his romantic rival he’s a dick.. but raises some valid questions: While Hidgens claim he shaved Konk due to lesions, there’s no mark of lesisons or the shaving. But his natural dickheadedness shines through and Jonathan talks about shooting Klonk before lucy takes his ring off and throws it and Jonathan goes after her.  Annnnd yeah turns out the disposable dickhead fiance for once is RIGHT. In a twist I did not remotley see coming but damn if it wasn’t clever, Klonk.. is Ted from TGWDLM and the plan was to seduce lucy with this con, marry her and then bump her off. It’s a hell of a twist and cleverly hidden since Joey’s such a starkid mainstay, it’s not a huge suprise he was Klonk and thus easily hid the fact he was also Ted. It’s clever stuff and pivots the story nicely. 
Ted is naturally a douchey as ever, going along with Hidgen’s plan to have him marry lucy then kill her and take her dough for themselves.. and unsuprisingly, so Hidgens can get Workin Boys off the ground. Granted there are easier ways to do this with the same scooby doo scheme: Just have HIdgens plan working boys casually, have Klonk really love it and being the sweetheart she is LUcy would fiance the thing just to make them both happy. I mean he can still marry her and ted can still have direct acess to her money if they want, it’s just an easier way that dosen’t shine supscion on the caveman who looks exactly like a local douchebag who everyone he’s met would testify against him. I mean would Paul and Bill REALLY be that suprised that Ted did this? 
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Exactly. Then again neither of our “heroes’ Here is very bright, and this scheme only works because Lucy is clearly very sweet, very naive, and very much wants a romantic evening with an ape man after all this time and effort searching, so she wants to believe him. So the fact the best they could come up with is something out of Scooby Doo is unsuprisng but still great.  However things take a turn for the
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Pretty quick as Hidgens takes disposable british douche fiance hunting.. then kills the guy after freely admiting he’s a fraud in what’s an INCREDIBLY chilling scene. Seriously it’s amazing how Robert takes a character as loveably redicilous, even his evil and murderous plan during TGWDLM was still hilariously rediclous, and makes him UTTERLY TERRIFYING. Even when dropping my fair lady refrences. Amazing stuff.  So the next day, after Konk “asks” what an engagment is and what not, we then get Lucy wondering just WHERE jonathan is and we get the second biggest laugh of the night as Hidgens gives us the iconic line of “Oh he left... said something about you being crazy and going back to london and basically to go fuck yourself. “. Naturally Lucy has followup questions and goes to find out while Ted, also naturally, isn’t exactly pleased when he finds out his partner in crime did a murder on someone. 
Ted may be a sleazy dickhead.. but even he sees maybe murdering a rich british person who just came here, went basically ONLY to this one location, and whose probably got many people who will misss him, one of whom is their primary target, is kinda dumb. Then again this is a plan that hinges on someone who could easily be identified, as he has or at least probably had an office job and three coworkers who know him, assuming a false identity to marry someone for their money. But again we’re dealing with a guy who thinks working boys is marketable to anyone who isn’t a starkid, and a moron who soon says he does his best thinking while erect. They only got this far because their target REALLY wants to fuck a sasquatch, is sweet but naive and well Ted IS still joey richter, and no longer has the porn stache so there you go.  Ted decides to cut Hidgens out of things.. partly because you know, he killed a person, and partly because instead of killing Lucy, Ted realized he honeslty has a LOT to gain by simply marrying her and staying married. He gains a hot rich wife (his word’s not mine, but angie is genuinely beautiful so fair point), a mansion, and while Hidgens points out the obvious, he has to stay Konk.. that’s actually appealing to Ted as he feels better as Konk, not just because he impresses an attractive woman for doing basic stuff, but because he feels better as Konk. This is.. an intresting turn for Ted i genuinely like. It shows that Ted may, as much as he presents with bluster and ego, actually LIKE the kind of shithead he knows he is. I mean looking at his life he has two workmates who calling them friends is a bit of a stretch, and one who he’s having an affair with but seems detemrined to make her doomed marriage to an even bigger asshole work. He really dosen’t have much as ted so it’s easy to see why being Konk is better: He’s a better person as him who actually has someone who cares about him.  Naturally Hidgens takes this as well as you’d expect and when Ted/Konk tries proposing he goes with the logical option for taking the fourtune for himself:
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Yes really. Hidgens strips naked, and swings his arms around like an orangutan to try and convince Lucy he’s the real hatchetfield apeman. Sadly this dosen’t mean we get a shirtless robert manion as he needs to keep the turtleneck on for later, but the mental image.. I had to pause the video for a good minute to laugh over it. Just everything about it from it somehow being a dumber plan than his scheme this episode, to the orangutan swaying to just.. everything. It’s fucking genius.  But Higdens has more than a mighty penis to compete with Ted.. he reveals ted’s phone and Ted ends up revealing himsef by telling Hidgens to go fuck himself. Naturally Lucy is distraught and tries to leave and the professor pulls out his shotgun to threaten her into financing his musical because of course it’s about workin boys. Lucy tries to run, Hidgens tries to shoot.. and ted , doing the first good thing in his entire life, takes the bullet.  Lucy gets ted out of there then locks the door behind them, and we get the SCARIEST bit in this segment as Hidgens leans into the camera, simulating the peep hole of the vault door to the ape man inclosure and begs her to let him out. It’s some real Jack Nicholson in the Shining stuff and it’s utterly terrifying, but it’s also an amazing bit of acting. Nice job Rob.  So ted bleeds out, as much as Lucy wants to save him he knows he’s not going to make it and prefers to die as Konk, finally happy with himself. And I just realized everyone at Paul’s job is horribly miserable. I mean good god, Paul himself has serious depression issues judging by “Let it Out”, Ted clearly hates himself, Charlotte is in a horrible marriage and Bill just got out of one and has a strained realtionship with his daughter we’ll get into more in a bit. I mean honestly, Mr. Davidson is the only one of them who really dosen’t need therapy.. he just needs to tell his wife he wants her to choke him while he jerks off. For as ungodly hilarious as that line is he’s probably the most well adjusted person there. Go figure. 
Naturally being already insane, Hidgens breaks out, still naked mind, and chases after Lucy. Also noticable is apparently some people thought hidgens was manipulated by the blue shit hive mind in TGWDLM. Which.. no. I do love the guy dont’ get me wrong.. but it was very obvious both from the way his musical number was done compared to the rest of the ones in the musical, and his actions that was entirely him, and his playing the music was so he could join, especially since we don’t see the hive mind use any mind manupluation on anyone else. Regular manipulation sure as seen with you tied up my heart and not your seed, manipulating charoltte into freeing her asshole husband so he could infect her and torturing bill for funsies. Just something to get out of the way. Point is he was always crazy we just now have him chasing an innocentish woman with his dong hanging out to prove it.  He eventually catches her as Lucy catches herself in one of his bear traps when she hits the woods, because he had those for some reason.. and he has a resonable way out: Just give her the 30,000 dollars he needs for his musical. Thing is she dosen’t have the money.. or hardly any. She spent all of it trying to find the ape man and was marrying jonathan for his money and him for her title. And while it is a bit skeezy, it’s very clear both were using each other and likely knew it, and Lucy still comes out the most moral of our cast here.. granted it’s not a big stretch as hidgens is criminally insane, ted’s a skeeze and Jonathan.. well he’s just a diiiiiiccckkkk. It’s not hard is what i’m saying.. much like hidgen’s dick flopping around in the rain. But yeah he dosen’t take it well, Lucy goes up a tree, which is apparently something Becky did once. But before Lucy can die at the hands of a naked thespian, the REAL Ape-Man shows up and tears Hidgen’s arms off, taking lucy in his own arms afterwords and revealing he remembers her. The two hit it off instantly, it turns out his name is chumby in an excellent gag as that was what Hidgens wanted his fake ape man to be named but Ted froze, and go off into the night together. Awww.. what if a naked ape man played by my boy jeff blim and a british person can’t work who can? 
We then close out the segment with a cameo appearance by Jamie Lynn Beatty, who while not part of the cast for this double feature, does get a fun showtune about the ape man. Also fun fact that i found out here on tumblr: That costume is from something Jamie did in HIGH SCHOOL. As in well over a decade ago. Like holy shit, good for her. She looks great in it. But yeah it’s a fun song and a nice way to close it out.  Final Thoughts on the Hatchetfield Ape-Man: This was a great way to start things off. This one was more in line with starkids pre-hatchetfield work, a goofy story with some hidden depth inside. And like the guy who didn’t like musicals it was utterly terrifying in spots so yeah good stuff ,utterly hilarous and a great way to bring back some old faviorites while giving us a neat new protaganist. Good stuff. 
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Watcher World:
Now from a mostly comedy with a horrifying ending to just.. pure unfiltered horror and depression! It’s Watcher World! Bill and Alice are back! And given I love Mariah Rose Faith and Corey Dorris, I was exastic to find this was what the second segment was about.. mostly because I had no idea Starkid had teasers for the episodes on their instagram, or I would’ve known Hidgens was coming. I wouldn’t of known he’d be stark naked for the last third of his story but still, pleasant surprise.
So Bill and Alice are spending the day at Watcher World, a run down amusement park on the edge of town. It’s Alice’s last weekend before College so Bill’s trying to reconnect with her by cramming a good old fashioned family vacation down her throat. Alice is less than enthused, both because she clearly resents her dad in general, and because Deb is throwing a huge rager on the same night. My honest interpretation of that is that Deb fully inteded for her girlfriend to come but Bill sprung this on Alice at the last minute and being pretty oblivious and hating Deb, either didn’t care about taking alice from one last night with her friends and girlfriend or didn’t generally think that through. I mean don’t get me wrong normally i’d side with a parent not wanting their daughter to attend a huge teen rager on their last weekend together.. but it’s also Alice’s last weekend in town for some time, and it’s likely a saturday.. so he has another day, and presumibly had friday before this and while things with his ex wife are tense, fighting for an extra day with her would be understandable and i’ts not like Alice, even if she hates Bill, would really fight him on getting an extra day in the town she didn’t want to leave. 
But that’s what I really like about this one that it’s layered. While Alice is slightly more in the right, she’s still shutting her dad out, refusing to let him follow her on instagram (though he does agree with her keeping it private as he dosen’t want Ted perving on her, which tracks, or Ted’s brother doing it which.. wait what?), and being on her phone the whole time to very clearly spite him and rub how much she dosen’t want to be there in her dad’s face. She dosen’t WANT to be at watcher world but instead of trying to talk to her Dad just wants to complain and apparenlty has on all their vacations.. it’s easy to see why Bill is annoyed by his daughter at times and thinks he has to FORCE HER to have fun with him, because otherwise she’d gladly ignore him for their entire weekends together for Deb. She’s so determined to punish her dad for the divorce, that she refuses to see on some level he IS trying, and is just sad about her leaving, and possibly leaving him forever and alone with nothing else in his life but his buddy Paul, whose getting married next week so that’s probably not helping.  On the other hand the reason I say Alice is more in the right is that well.. Bill’s a grown ass men. And while, speaking for himself, grown ass men don’t always make the right decisions, and not speaking for myself neither do fathers... Alice’s acting out is understandable coming from an 18 year old whose been through hell over the last year, having her parents divorce being forced to move, loosing her friends. Bill however just kind of uses her age and angst as an excuse to undermine and belittle her feelings. Because he doesn’t like deb for the very stupid reasons of she does pot, instead of assuring her that Deb wouldn’t cheat on Alice with Deb’s former crush Zigg, starkid’s first non binary character in a nice show that Nick Lang wasn’t just covering his ass when he said there’d be more representation in starkid, which in his defense I didn’t doubt him on but it’s still nice he did so at the earliest opportunity and very clearly plans to use Zigg if he can find a nonbinary actor for them. 
But yeah instead of assuring his daughter, Bill is just like “well sometimes relationships don’t work out” which while true is clearly his self serving way of trying to get Alice to break up with someone he dosen’t like. INstead of supporting her in her dreams of writing plays, one of which was good enough to get her a scholarship, he tries to act like she has no plans for her future and get her to be a doctor for more security, even though having a secure job has done.. no one at his office including him favors. I mean again, the most stable and happy person at the office is the guy in charge, and even he can’t tell his wife he wants her to choke him out at night. He wants her to choke him, he wants her to choke him while he jerks off, he wants her to choookeeee himmm while heeeee jerrrkssss offfff. 
While part of this seems to be that Deb plans to be a starving artist who can mooch off her parents in a pinch, Alice GENUINELY seems to have a full plan for her life. I do get his worrying about her future.. but she’s a smart kid. A bit of a brat but she knows what she wants clealry and clearly has talent. He’s just projecting his own fears on her. He also refuses to accept any responsibility in the divorce.. his hating his ex wife IS valid, as she took his daughter away, uprooted her life a year before graduation and spends gobs of money on impressive outings, the latter two seemingly just to spite him when honestly, it’d of made more sense for Alice to stay with Bill for the year before she graduates and been better for her. However, Bill still doesn’t take responsibly that he too is shoving fun down her throat to try and win her over, hates her girlfriend and refuses to treat her with any respect, and really DOSEN’T know Alice all that well. As we learn during their fun day she has anxiety, and he never knew about it. And the divorce isn’t really an excuse when he had years before that.  It’s the real problem of their relationship: Bill feels ENTITLED to a good father daughter relationship, but isn’t working at it and blames his ex wife or Alice for it instead of himself. While Alice isn’t an innocent as i’ve made clear, putting up walls and not telling dad things, given bill ignores her when she DOES try to tell him about her life, it’s easy to see she’s just given up. If he won’t listen why bother. Which yeah i’ve found myself there with my own dad from time to time. Bill’s not a bad person, he genuinely loves Alice, as he says “to the moon and back”, but it’s very clear from this outing he still loves the little girl who loved him unconditionally and not the complicated and mopey adult sh’es become, and dosen’t WANT to adapt to that and fears once she leaves for college she’ll avoid him for good, which isn’t unfounded. It’s a good, complex rich dynamic.  Naturally with.. all this I covered up front instead of sprinkling it throughout, the day doesn’t go great, with Alice utterly miserable most of the time, and ending up in a goofy novelty t-shirt due to a log ride. She also has an unsettling encounter with park mascot Blinky, our newest adorable abomination, who not only shows up the moment she does something bad on camera but also stares at her ass, which.. Paul you mind coming back for a second?
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Thank you. They end up at the Watch Party, a cheesy kids show musical because Bill apparently equates this with his daughter loving musicals. I mean granted cheesy kids stage shows can be rad just listen to this. 
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But I get Alice’s annoyance here. Thus we get the return of the sniggles, who apparently serve whatever eldrich deity is around this week and our first song of this segment, The Blinky Song. Which is catchy as hell as well as hilariously dark (”I’m so hungry”), and uses the stock footage well, as I could buy a cheap theme park ran by an eldtirch eye goblin using stock footage. But yeah it establishes Blinky as always watching and kinda fucked up.  Also the sniggles are now clearly the smurgs with Angie’s now being named Sniglette, Jeff being papa Sniggle and James being Snigglotts. However Sniglette considers leaving with another song with a long string of words. Then, things get.. dark as the rest of the sniggles don’t want her to leave and try and mob her, and then Papa Sniggle accidently wings her with a mallet and apparenlty injures the actual performer, before everyone’s ushered out and the usher pretends nothing happened. Good mind screw horror stuff. 
Alice and Bill then bicker a bit with my above point being made as Alice TRIES to get Bill to accept some respoinablity but he refuses and blames her mom. It’s now time for the Tear-Jerker, the reason they came. Bill’s buddy Paul says someone died. They also find three other people waiting in line and when one goes to the bathroom the other two start making out which.. yeah, dosen’t help Alice’s worry Deb’s going to cheat on her. So she takes the first single rider pass she can, with Bill worming his way in as to not let her get away.  The two naturally end up fighting on the Tear-Jerker before it stops up high, and ends up stalled, with the gloriously returning Nerdy Kid played by Joey from Black Friday being as helpful as usual. Seriously bless them for bringing him back. Man in a Hurry also showed up again, bless him too. Alice picks this time to reveal her fear of heights and anxiety, and an approaching storm isn’t helping. So Bill.. steps up. He helps ease Alice down taking her phone for her, if loosing it due tot he rain and helping her stay calm. It’s a REALLY nice portrayal of an anxiety attack, with Mariah herself apparently having them and thus portraying it really well. As someone who has them myself it really hits home and Bills calm attempts to help her are really heartwarming, getting her to describe her musical for him and the two bonding. It’s genuinely sweet.  But.. it can’t last, as Alice freaks out about her phone and Bill for once is in the right, as .. he was you know.. trying to save his daughter having a panic attack, and really stepped up given he was obnovious she had anxiety in the first place, and managed it well. He then gives the utterly heart stomping line “I love you to the moon and back, but sometime’s it’s really hard to like you. “
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Just damn. So Alice runs off and both find their way to the fairway. Bill tries winning a doll for Alice, getting into a test of strength where he fails repedatly and is constantly mocked by the barker, played by James Tolbert who also played Blinky.. 
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That should be Tolbert’s twitter handle. Anyway point is, Bill keeps trying even as he wracks up 400 dollars in credit card debt, for a 49.95 doll, before eventually the barker and hte crowd’s jeers get to be too much and he does smack it hard, thinking of all of his pent up rage towards alice.. just as the bell at the top takes the shape of alice’s head and explodes.  Bill is naturally horrified by this by the barker assures he loves him.. and that he should totally hobble his daughter misery style to make her not leave him and use the mallet for it.  Meanwhile Alice is at the shooting Gallery not wanting the blinky doll she wins, just blowing off steam when she runs into an old crone played by Lauren Lopez. But this Crone has her phone... which suspiciously has a ton of instagram photos of Deb and Zigg making out while sharing a toke. Granted Deb COULD’VE cheated, but given Alice is insecure, and her phone was given back to her by a witch working for an eye goblin.. yeah maybe just maybe Deb was loyal, and if she wasn’t wouldn’t be dumb enough to put it on instagram. But given Alice is already worked up it’s easy enough for her to beliive that her relationships in danger and if she gets there in time she can stop it and oh look her gun is now a real gun and can help her get the keys.  So yeah it’s time for a creepy as hell Shining-esque showdown, but if both sides were possesed instead of one. It’s.. a CHILLING as hell scene, not helped by Alice wielding a gun again as both fight. I was gripped the entire time and don’t have much to say utter than HOLY SHIT THIS WAS AS TERRIFYING AS IT WAS RIVITING. 
But a crowd gathers as the fight continues.. all with purple eyes which ave been seen on and off, watchers with a thousand eyes.. and with Blinky, now revealed NOT to be a costume probably, above them all. We also get one hell of a line.  “This is an amusement park but not for YOUR amusement.”
So yeah I love this sequence.. and Blinky as a villain. While it’s vague if he and Blinky  are the same entity.. I’m going with not. It’s not a stretch that like Cthulu, Wiggly has brothers in the black and white, with their own motives, methods and ability to get into our world. Unlike Wiggly.. Blinky’s already here and has no real ambition other than to find people to mentally tear apart and set loose on one another for his own amusement. He doesn’t have grand plans of burning the world.. he just wants to be entertained. It’s an interesting and chilling motive and I hope we see him again eventually. I also believe those at the park are trapped there bound after their own day there and trapped doing whatever Wiggly needs. Except maybe squeaky voiced teen. He probably just complains about cleaning up so much blood.  But yeah Blinky is very happy as the fight escalates into the hall of mirrors and Alice looses her gun.. with Bill now poised to strike down his daughter as the mirror reflects the various workers at the park, all encouraging him to kill her... it’s utterly terrifying as Bill’s eyes take on a purple tint.. and we get a POWERFUL use of the score and the “why does it hurt to love you’ bit from TGWDLM.. as Bill sees himself and what he’s about to do, sees his daughter understandably having a panic attack.. and calms her, his eyes returning and the two reconciling.  Of course Blinky isn’t happy about this “sappy bullshit” and brings htem into his domain, charging at them. But kinda missing that giving a pissed off teenager a rifle she knows how to use when you have a giant target for a face isn’t a good idea and she shoots him, with him bleeding a flood of purple goo that sends them out. While I doubt Winky’s dead, he is done with them.  Our story concludes on a sweeet note as the two find their car, and they finally make as tep forward, Bill having seen almost too late how selfish and controlling he was being and accepting his daughter on her phone.. and Alice realizing her need to open up and after checking Instagram, likely finding out those photo’s weren’t real, she throws her phone in the back.. but not before accepting her dad’s request, letting him in. Sure the road ahead is rough.. but the two have made a good first step towards repairing things and loving one another again in a healthy manner. and all it took  was bill nearly murdering her and allice shooting an eye goblin int he face and getting covered in his blood. Cue the credits, a beautiful song called “One Thousand Eyes” with Jeff Blim fucking nailing it. A great way to send off this bit.  Final Thoughts: This was the best one of the two. While Ape Man is really good too, this one took the darker tone of black friday, but with a tighter narrative. By focusing on a smaller cast, the darker elements really played better and the conclusion felt more satisfying.. though it helped that BOTH of these tails ended without everyone dying, and while I doubt EVERY story will have a happy ending, it makes things more interesting knowing that the heroes can get a happy ending this time around instead of an apocalypse. 
Overall Thoughts: This double feature was great, I’ll be getting a ticket to the next one if I can afford it, and if not i’ll see it presumably in December or next year when it comes on YouTube. Really excellent stuff.  So this was a first for me but if you’d like to see more starkid stuff from me, let me know in the comments or my askbox, commission me to review one of the musicals via dm, and if you liked how I did this review follow this blog for weekly ducktales and loud house coverage, and amphibia coverage when that returns, among more fun reviews. And until next time.. don’t blink. Play us out Jeff. 
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I really hope this is the ending theme for the series. 
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ungodlyobsessions · 5 years ago
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Black Friday thoughts!
I saw Black Friday last night and HOO BOY LEMME TELL YA THAT SHOW IS A HOOT, SO STRAP IN FOR A LONG POST
⚠️ THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR BLACK FRIDAY THE MUSICAL ⚠️
In-show thoughts:
We got to see Jeff as Tom Houston! Sad to know it was because Dylan was out sick, but it was a special experience nonetheless
Robert fucking dies yet again :(
Uhhhh holy shit Jon can BELT, I could hear him over everyone despite them all having a mic
Kim literally got right in my face and stared me in the eyes, it was fantastic
I thought I was gonna get kicked by Robert and James (though, I wouldn't have minded one bit lol)
Nick Lang was also at the show, possibly noting? He was really sweet and it was nice to see him again
ANGELA IS A BEAST AND HER VOICE IS FUCKING AWESOME, I hope to see her in future Starkid shows!
Kendall was so incredible! Her voice is so beautiful and it's so cool to see someone so young be such a great performer
Curt came dangerously close to running into my feet/legs during portions of the show
Most of the actors ended up getting around 5 or more inches away from me at times
The choreography in this show is honestly on another level, like the formations and little dance solos were just perfection! Hats off to James Tolbert man
The fight choreo in this show is also insane, like it was genuinely worrying watching some of the brawling that was going on lol
There was a moment in the show where our fave dancers (Lauren, Robert, and now James!) got to have their own little time in the spotlight
Jaime is super funny as Sherman Young
There were several leitmotifs and callbacks to stuff from TGWDLM!
There was this really cool set design moment where President Goodman is talking to Wiggly! So basically, the top level of the set has garland on it that fans downwards; Robert held up two large lamps above it to represent eyes, and coupled with the garland it forms the little green bastard's face. Some of the girls were under the garland, shaking it when Wiggly was talking
Curt is like...batshit crazy at some points in this show when he's a mallgoer
Joey is very creepy in this show,, he had an apple throughout the first act that he took one bite out of then handed to a random audience member, not to mention the fact that one of his costumes is all-denim
Lauren is a GORGEOUS villain, like I love Linda Monroe so much, but she is also very good at remaining comedic in the role
I overheard that unfortunately, due to Lauren being sick, she had to cut her solo titled "Adore Me"
PAULKINS PAULKINS PAULKINS!!!!! Also I love the fact that according to Paul they are "very intimate" but not close enough for Emma to label themselves as boyfriend and girlfriend lol
Tom was a very raw and wonderful character, and I actually hope this isn't the last we see of him
It was so refreshing seeing Jeff in a more serious role, and he is honestly such a legend for stepping up so suddenly in addition to his existing roles and writing all of the incredible songs
Getting some insight on how the death of Emma's sister, Jane, affected Emma and the Houstons was really interesting, and with the release of the filmed version I'm hoping there will be more to discover about it that I missed
Kim has such an angelic voice! She sounded beautiful during her duet with Jeff
Corey was killing it, he was so entertaining and captivating during his songs, he's a king
General McNamara reappears! I was so happy to see that man again :,) too bad he fucking dies though!!!
Hot Chocolate Boy, Charlotte, Ted, and Bill all reappear in the end number, and lemme tell you I was ECSTATIC, I missed them all so much
Also, Ted was holding Charlotte's shoulders at the end....👀
Curt was dressed as a guy in a hoodie that was holding lil' Peanut the Hatchetfield Squirrel!
Lex and Hannah's sibling relationship was so touching
Lex's solo, "Black Friday," was stunning, and I'll definitely be learning it once the soundtrack is released
I honestly hate the way Ethan dresses himself lmao, but he's really sweet to Hannah and is a pretty supportive boyfriend
In one of the numbers, I believe titled "Wiggle" or something similar, there's a lot of very good suggestive hip swiveling going on
JEFF BLIM SAID FUCK CAPITALISM
I'm begging for a full-length version of Santa Claus Goes to High School (well not really, Black Friday is enough of a blessing, but the thought is glorious)
Teenage Kris Kringle is actually Robert's best role, don't @ me 😤 Professor Hidgens? Don't know her
The number that I believe is titled "What Do You Say?" is so fucking funny but also awkward and adorable
Jon Matteson as Gary, a lawyer, was super entertaining
I wasn't expecting a cult plot, but you know, I'm not surprised
Out-of-show thoughts:
We sat in the front row, house left
Curt and Kim both said hi to people, but they left quickly and didn't stagedoor due to sickness
Lauren, Corey, James, and Joey all did not stagedoor or even appear afterwards, given their sickness
I showed the members I'd met at Homecoming (Jon, Jeff, and Jaime) the pictures from the day I saw them, and they all said they remembered me! Jon and Jeff both commented that they looked younger in the picture, and Jeff pointed out his makeup lol
I asked Jaime if Mariah ever saw my Greenpeace costume, and she said she showed her a picture of me in it!
I got stickers, the Black Friday pin, a Wiggly doll, and some unused prop stickers that were meant to go on the bags in the show
I talked to Robert a little more after stagedoor and told him I'd watched some of Fanshaw and Crudnut to hear his voice acting, and he said "Oh my God, that's a deep cut haha" but was ultimately grateful for the extra support for his work
There were these two girls in the front with us that were dressed as Alice and Deb as a couple's costume, they were so cute and so sweet
I got to chat with Matt Dahan, and he was talking about how good the music in the show is and how talented he thinks all of his friends are :,)
When Jon came out, people were going "Paul's a-comin'," so the Alice and Deb girls and I all brought up "Steve's a-comin'," and Matt went "Oh God, you guys know about 'Steve's a-comin''??" lmao
The show confirms that Black Friday isn't really a continuation or prequel to TGWDLM, but rather an alternate dimension/timeline
At the end of the show, during bows, the cast gestured to Jeff in the middle, and we all gave him a roaring standing ovation that nearly brought him to tears
During the show, you could tell which of the cast members were sick because they were coughing onstage (though they were definitely being as discreet as possible) and it's just unbelievable how passionate and dedicated these people are.
I'm so honored to have experienced this! I'm eagerly awaiting the YouTube release and soundtrack, and I'm so ready to see what Starkid will do next 🌟
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brightstarkid · 5 years ago
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It’s 50 floors but here we go! Where would you want to live?
Floor 1: Nico Ager - Sluggers, Sherlock Holmes, Citizen, Mercury, Plastic Man, and Thoms Riddle
Floor 2: Julia Albain - Vincent Crabbe, Percy Weasley, Candy Lady, Specs, Vicki Vale, Evil Mother Goose, Martha Wayne, Zatanna and Emily
Floor 3: Chris Allen - Duder Reese, Alfred Pennyworth, Lucius Fox, O’Malley, Qwang Li, Spider-Man, Two-Face, Moaning Myrtle, Barty Crouch Jr., Mad-Eye Moody, Tom Riddle Sr., and Anakin “Ani” Skywalker
Floor 4: Clark Baxtresser - Clark Baxtresser
Floor 5: Jaime Lyn Beatty - Ginny Weasley, Sally, Rita Skeeter, Neato Mosquito, Candy, Poison Ivy, The Sun, The Flash, Ursula, Ensemble, Mouthface, Schwoopsie, Claire, Charlotte, Nora, Deb, Colonel Schaffer, Sniggle, Sherman Young, Secretary of State, and Noel
Floor 6: Jeff Blim - Sweet Tooth, Aquaman, Joe Chill, Guy who killed Martha and Thomas Wayne, Aragog, Aladdin, Jack Bauer, Mr. Davidson, Man In A Hurry, Sam, General John McNamara, Greg, Sniggle, and Northville High Student
Floor 7: Pat Brady - Candy Lady
Floor 8: Tyler Brunsman - Cedric Diggory, Cornelius Fudge, Lucius Malloy, and Minerva McGonagall
Floor 9: Jamie Burns - Chorn
Floor 10: Richard Campbell - Neville Schlongbottom, Rick, The Kid That Hates Joey, Past Hermione, Frank Longbottom
Floor 11: Britney Coleman - Bellatrix Lestrange, Hufflepuff Student, and Dean Thomas
Floor 12: Brant Cox - Roach, Colin Creevy, Wizard Cop, and Percy Weasley
Floor 13: Darren Criss - Toby Phillips and Harry Potter
Floor 14: Denise Donovan - February, Catwoman, Pizza Girl, Venus, Black Canary, Mrs. Cole, Bird, Cruella De Vil, Ensemble, Mara Jade, and Keeri
Floor 15: Corey Dorris - Big T, Yaxley, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Titty-Mitty, Cletus Jones, Bill, Stu, Beanie’s Customer, Frank Pricely, and Mr. Humbugger
Floor 16: Mariah Rose Faith - Melissa, Zoey, Greenpeace Girl, Female Cop, and Nurse
Floor 17: Elona Finlay - Sami Reese, Madame Pomfrey, and Grey Lady
Floor 18: Nick Gage - Sultan, Djinn, and Scar
Floor 19: Eric Kahn Gale - Wizard Cop, Sebulba, Qui-Got Jinn, and Jabba the Hutt
Floor 20: Angela Giarratana - Sniggle, Lex Foster, and Northville High Student
Floor 21: Arielle Goldman - Weenie, Lily Potter, Luna Lovegood, Hedwig, Fred Weasley, Hannah Abbott, and Mary Riddle
Floor 22: Ali Gordon - Vanessa
Floor 23: Bonnie Gruesen/Socha - Hermione Granger
Floor 24: Brian Holden - Zack, Flopsy, Remus Lupin, Veeto Mosquito, Junior, Superman, Evil Huckleberry Finn, Rubeus Hagrid, Basilisk, Jar Jar “J.J.” Binks, Admiral Motti, Bartender, Smelly-Balls, and Jemilla’s Kid #2
Floor 25: A.J. Holmes - Joey’s Heart and Gilderoy Lockhart
Floor 26: Nick Lang - Kevin Bushwald, Arthur Weasley, Sorty, Scarfy, Peter Pettigrew, Mama Umbridge, Mister Bug, The Caller Bug, Pincer’s Right Claw, Robin, Barack Obama, Mobster, Emperor “Pappy” Palpatine, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Bib Fortuna
Floor 27: Lauren Lopez - Tanya Freemont, Draco Malloy, Bugette Bugington, Taz, Pincer’s Left Claw, Commissioner Gorden, Calendar Man, Evil King Arthur, Green Arrow, Monkey, Maleficent, Soldier #2, Ensemble, Craphole, Zazzalil, Emma Perkins, Donna, Stoner Girl, The Hatchetfield Bee, Sniggle, Linda Monroe, and Jingle
Floor 28: Evanna Lynch - Luna Lovegood
Floor 29: Devin Lytle - Cho Chang, Miss Cooter, and Charlie Weasley
Floor 30: Robert Manion - Gaston, Abdul, Baful, Soldier #3, Ensemble, Snarl’s Left Paw, Professor Hidgens, Obnoxious Teen/Hot Chocolate Boy, Male Cop, Sniggle, Ethan Green, Shopper #4, and Kris Kringle
Floor 31: Lily Marks - Pansy Parkinson, Molly Weasley, Ravenclaw Student, Death Eater, Sally’s Heart, and High Council Pussy
Floor 32: Jon Matteson - Paul Matthews, Wiggly, Gary Goldstein, Secretary of Defense, and Northville High Student
Floor 33: Curt Mega - Sniggle, Shopper #3, President Howard Goodman, Northville High Student, and Ed (Peanuts’ Proud Papa)
Floor 34: Alle-Faye Monka - Tiffany, Fluer Delacour, and Albus Potter
Floor 35: Joe Moses - Severus Snape, Rick’s Dick, Krayonder, Nearly Headless Nick, Bobba “Bob” Fett, and Veers
Floor 36: Alex Paul - Captain Hook and Ensemble
Floor 37: Jim Povolo - Jim, Gregory Goyle, Death Eater, Rumbleroar, Firenze, Past Draco, Sweetheart Mosquito, The Overqueen, Matches, Mr. Freeze, Hawkman, Photoshop Downloader, Bill Weasley, Captain, and Soldier #1
Floor 38: Joey Richter - Ron Weasley, Joey Richter, Bug, McDoon, Everyone Else, Grunt, Snarl, Trunkell, Ted, Dan, The Homeless Guy, Stoner Boy, Beanie’s Customer, Uncle Wiley/Wilbur Cross, Cineplex Teen, and Jangle
Floor 39: Brian Rosenthal - Quirinus Quirrell, King’s Cross Person, Seamus Finnegan, James Potter, and Past Ron
Floor 40: Dylan Saunders - Albus Dumbledore, Tootsie Noodles/Tootsie Mega-Girl, Pincer, Scarecrow, The Green Lantern, Narrator, Mobster, Construction Worker, Egghead, Gob, Ja’far, and Tom Houston
Floor 41: Rachael Soglin - Princess, Slippery When Wet, and Emberly
Floor 42: Meredith Stepien - Meredith, Mega-Girl, The Riddler, TGI Fridays Worker, Chase Meridian, Geek, Rachel Dawes, Hostage, Earth, Wonder Woman, Hermione Granger, Sherrezade, Oola, Cantina Band Member, and Jemilla
Floor 43: Nicholas Joseph Strauss-Matathia - The Old Snatch, Sirius Black, The Penguin, Chief O’Hara, Hoodie Teen, Thomas Wayne, Mr. Mxyzptik, Captain Marvel, and Fenrir Greyback
Floor 44: Sango Tajima - Lavender Brown, Death Eater, George Weasley, and Past Harry
Floor 45: James Tolbert - Sniggle, Shopper #2, Security Guard, Vice President Bob Morris, Northville High Student, and Xander Lee
Floor 46: Lauren Walker - Molag, Snarl, Trunkell
Floor 47: Joe Walker - Lord Voldemort, Dick, Umbridge, Commander Up, Batman, Chilly Willy, Tom Riddle, Prince Achmed, Former Royal Vizier, Moff Tarkin, and Ducker
Floor 48: Kim Whalen - Sniggle and Becky Barnes
Floor 49: Tiffany Williams - Tiblyn, Jemilla’s Kid #1
Floor 50: Kendall Nicole Yakshe - Tim Houston and Hannah Foster
Concept: all characters played by each individual starkid try to live together in a condominium, with one floor for each actor
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