#oh and if you have good traditionnal songs!! :)))

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I bet that Joxter knows a lot of songs in differents languages. I like to imagine it was this way Snufkin knows how to speak so many languages!

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what annoys you the most with 3H? The fandom or the missed opportunities from the game?

Oh.

The fandom takes the first place, because while it was funny to craugh seeing those bad takes, 2 years after the release of the game those takes are still endorsed and built upon and it’s just impossible to discuss about FE16 without being sure that the person you’re talking to is talking about the game, or the redshit takes.

Still, I firmly believe fandom wouldn’t be that cesspool of incessant drama if the localised version (especially NoA?) didn’t take wild directions with the game. It’s incomprehensible how a game in its OG version can be saying green but the localised version everyone talks about “corrected” it to “blue”. 

Scripts are more or less the same, but the directions given to the VAs?

rant under the cut about directions, voice acting and people arbitrarly pushing an agenda despite the media they’re supposed to translate/bring to non-jp crowds.

I pointed it in an earlier post (or earlier posts?) but as a french person I grew up with the 4Kids dub, which was infamous for, uh, “translating” things for western audiences, even at the cost of coherency and let’s not even talk about the source material this thing doesn’t exist. Remember the Shadow Realm from YGO? .

I watched a short anime a few years ago about the anime industry (Shirobako?) and I remember a character trying to become hired as a voice actor/seiyuu - she had to learn and to feel the character - she has to know the character as much as the author who created them. 

A few years ago, I didn’t feel as if the dubbing cast worked on their characters as much as the OG!voice actors. For a recet exemples I was rewatching a certain anime with the fr dub - basically a former underling fights against his superior who became a traitor, and even if his superior doesn’t regret turning into a traitor and ultimately became a giant fly, the underling always respected his superior and treated him with proper forms of adress. In the “early 2010 dub” I watched yesterday? Yeah no, guy’s talking to him as if he is talking to his friend in a pub.

Even now, while the quality of the voice acting has improved (and I feel like people take their jobs way more seriously for the dubbing industry) - i was the first surprised with SoV’s VA - we have now directions. Because the manga/anime/game isn’t, uh, good enough or whatever, the dubbing team decides to go off and do its own thing, regardless of coherence or, worse, what was the intent/core of the og game.

I am playing MH:Rise, the game is set up in a more or less traditional “ninja” village, with a lot of old japanese (? feudal? idk) aesthetics. The devs said they wanted to return to the roots of the saga and based new monsters on Yokais, mythological monsters from the japanese folklore. When you meet a new giant monster to hunt, you have small cutscenes to introduce said monster sung with a Noh theater aesthetic (i just looked up on wikipedia i thought it was kabuki but kabuki isn’t the only form of theater whatever the more you know). 

NPCs in the MH series speak their own language, often called the MHese (a bit like the sim language). IDK if it is because this opus has a japanese aesthetic, but you can pick a jp voice acting instead of the MHese (same voice actors but talking in a different language). Or you can pick the US/ENG dub, with, I suppose, US VAs. I’m not complaing about the lack of FR dub, I’m rather happy with it tbf. But, for some reason, despite the aesthetic, the yokais, the pagodas in the background, the samurai flagship cat, the katanas and whatever, I thought the Noh style cutscenes weren’t going to change, or maybe someone would try to sing in English. But it isn’t the case, the US/ENG version of those cutscenes aren’t Noh style sung, they were completely revamped, so no traditionnal songs and instruments in the background, instead have a dude describing the monster you’re about to face in a cheap National Geographic imitation.

Why remove this? Was it because US!Capcom thought the western world wouldn’t understand the Noh references (but could still understand the general “aesthetic”, just, ban on the songs?) or some shit? They couldn’t remove the flagship cat’s samurai armor to swap it for a GI uniform, so they banned the Noh cutscenes? Why?

It is the same shit NoA pulled out with the Fates localisation, Suzukaze became Kaze because... reasons?

Maybe I’m biased because I’m french, and apparently Wonder France is one of the biggest consumer of anime/manga outside japan, but the mere idea that something can be changed because it’s not “western enough so the audience wouldn’t get it” pisses me to no end, and this is why, in the beginnings of Internet (YT videos with 4 parts, megaupload etc etc) everyone I knew who watched anime ditched everything dubbed to watch the very same episode but subbed (one of my friends even worked on her english with subs!).

Back to FE16 because this is your question and I ranted enough, I cannot stress it enough regarding Rhea, but while I do not doubt Cherami Leigh made a great effort and worked her best with the tools given to her (to this day I still cannot fathom how she managed to dub Mae and Rhea, they’re so different or not seiros is genki!rhea if only leigh was given that script) Leigh!Rhea isn’t Inoue!Rhea. NoA (I harp on NoA but I suppose NoA oversaw the dubbint process/effort, NoE is inexistent) had an agenda and a reading of Rhea that isn’t the same as NoJ.

“You worthless piece of garbage” doesn’t exist in the og!script - but more importantly, delivering this, Inoue!Rhea isn’t furious, she is upset and desperate. Leigh!Rhea is furious, Cherami Leigh does an admirable job at conveying NoA!Rhea’s fury - but this is not the same character NoJ wrote. If NoA gave the same directions NoJ gave Kikuko Inoue to Cherami Leigh, I’m pretty sure the “Rhea BaD” crowd, the eating babies takes and whatever shit redshit comes up everyday would be way reduced.

Maybe @nilsh13 has redshit take saved talking about this, but if we’re not talking about the same character, what kind of discussion can even happen? (I’m sure someone someday pulled the “well i played the localised game so i’m not talking about the og script with you but with the localised script” to defend some smelly take)

Missed opportunities can be fuel for fanfics.

Discourse based on fandom drama (at this point NoA itself is part of the fandom with their “religious extremis/zealot” take)? Nothing can salvage it. I genuinely like to talk about FE16 (especially lizards), but since every topic became a landmind because of the fandom drama, even making posts in good faith can be used as a fuel for drama, or completely diverted from their original goal to suit, again, some faction war between lizards and a certain someone.

Tl; dr : Fandom.

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So I was tagged by @fleurdemalheur  you will now learn that song asks are my nightmare lmao <3 But ily thank you for this, it actually put me in a really good mood! I’m going to have to check Phoebe Bridgers then ;)

TBH if you don’t know what to do check these out, lots of different things, you might like some <3

Your favourite album: Ok, brace yourselves, I can’t for the life of me pick things, here’s a list : 

Louise Attaque (Louise Attaque) 

Selah sue (Selah Sue)

Asa (Asha)

Joyful (Ayo)

Je dis aime (M)

Divinydille (Vanessa Paradis)

Psychostar world (Kamini)

Welcome to jamrock (Damian Marley)

Can you tell I’ve been listening to the same things for like... an eternity yet?

Your favourite song at the moment: So i’ve been listening to those a lot :

Zenit (Onuka)

Ilomilo (Billie Eilish)

Revenge (Joyner Lucas)

Venom (Little simz)

Final Form (Sampa the great)

QUEEN (Janelle Monae)

Can you feel my heart (Bring me the horizon) -> I’m emo sometimes.

囂張 (盧凱彤)

Pretty face (Soley)

我的新衣/My New Swag (Vava)

If I die tonight (KOHH)

貧乏なんて気にしない (KOHH)

Gonna need a grave (Urban Country)

Run for a long time (Blue Saraceno)

Hunnu Guren (Batzorig Vaanchig) -> I like throat singing.

Fee Ra Huri (Omnia)

Needed me (Rihanna)

Gett off (Prince) -> Y’all thought I wouldn’t put my main star on there? Y’all thought wrong.

Special (Ashnikko) -> First bc i thought it was stupid but now i’m a clown.

Trop Beau (Lomepal)

Եթե Կարող Ես (Սրբուկ) -> Am I droping armenian pop everywhere? Maybe. 

Na na na (Սրբուկ)

Թամզարա (Սրբուկ) -> Can you guys tell i’ve been listening to Srbuk?

Bâtard Sensible (TTC) -> Idk what to tell you guys.

Grita (Jarabe de Pablo)

Snow (Hey oh) (RHCP)

Love is a bitch (Two feet)

Would that I (Hozier)

I’m just dropping a weirdass playlist alright? I just checked my history. 

An album that’s important to you:  Ok maybe I lied, I can pick one :

Diamonds on the inside (Ben Harper) 

Songs that are important to you: Well here goes nothing :

Amen Omen (Ben Harper)

Soft Universe (Aurora) 

Down on my knees (Ayo) -> Reminds me of my mom

Jailer (Asa)

1-800-273-8255 (Logic)

素晴らしき日常 ( 高橋優 ) -> かずちゃんありがとう <3

Phoenix (K.A.A.N)

Body (Mother mother)

Arrache moi (Louise Attaque) 

Bleed it out (Linkin park)

Pain (Hollywood Undead)

Do it or die (Die mannequin)

Probably a lot of other songs but my mind is blank i had to go check my phone.I can’t remember shit lmao

What makes you like a song: The stronger the emotions i feel are when listening to it, the more i’ll like it I guess? I like those that make me want to just dance and go crazy alone at 3am, funky ones, i like those that are calm, just intrumental and those that are dramatic and make me feel sad too. I don’t really know. 

Your favourite instrument to hear in a song: Violins I think? Or old/traditionnal ones, like kamancha, duduk, zithers, morin khuur, bagpipes too i guess? I just really like hearing things... I like accordion too, and piano...LOOK, I DON’T KNOW

A song from my childhood: You know what? I’m just going to list artists, because my parents just left music on like all the time, I always have to ask because I don’t even remember most of the artists :

Cesaria Evora 

Tracy Chapman 

Prince 

Ben Harper 

Lhasa de Sela

Buju Banton

Capleton

Bob and Damian Marley

M

Lauryn Hill

Amy Winehouse

Nujabes

Tété

A song to dance to: So we’ve established that i can’t pick songs. I don’t even know most of the artists and you know what, screw it. Here’s a list :

When it’s like 3am and I decide to get drunk and dance :

Get down on saturday night (Oliver Cheatham)

And the beat goes on (The whispers)

Let’s groove (Earth, wind & fire)

Act Like you know (Fat Larry’s band)

Video killed the radio star (The buggles)

Boogie wonderland (Earth, wind & fire)

Toxic (Britney Spears)

Voulez vous (ABBA)

Edge of seventeen (Stevie Nicks)

Move your feet (Junior Senior)

I want to break free (QUEEN)

Sexy Dancer  (Prince)

Zyn zyn (Zhonti)

When I just ??? (Horny power trip probably drunk too songs??) :

Gasolina (You know :))))))

Who dem (Capleton)

That bih (Qveen Herby)

Lick it (She & go_des)

Box (Siya)

Ba na na (A tribe called red)

Raingurl (Yaeji)

Murder she wrote (Chaka Demus & pliers)

Sentient (Perturbator)

Deep throat (Cupcakke)

And lots of mix i can’t name ?

A song you love lyrically: Guess what? You’re getting a list boo :

Chevalier (Kamini)

Emma Stanton (Tété)

Ton Absence (Tété)

Onde Sensuelle (M)

Nuit Blanche (Renan Luce)

Le déni (Kamini)

Ovni (Kamini)

Schizophrène (Kamini) -> Donc j’aime bien kamini, ça va?

Warrior (Aurora)

I’ll tag :  @maman-ours @prayfordream @vvrathb @scavengerridley @queen-of-edolas @rookieofthedecade @milliondollarboobtoucher 

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