#og okudera

[majimemegoro]

hey so we took your boyfriend and made him a side-character that’s mentioned a lot but never appears in the story. yeah he got fridged to create a mystery and character development for the wise-yet-full-of-regrets old mentor character, and now he’s haunting the narrative. But no one really pays attention to him or cares about him. sorry.

[aultaine]

new plot to make people care about this guy = draw shirtless

© 2021 AA

[vancilart]

hey comrade, for the 'casual affections' prompt list, would you accept a prompt of okudera and sato? Or only your excellent OCs? no pressure, just wondering ! -majimemegoro

YES i would thank you very much ! prompt 23 with a palette i enjoyed added

with a bonus sketch that didn't make the cut

[cryingcow]

@majimemegoro OG Okudera to Sato

If you didn't want to be assimilated into my found family then you should have killed me when you had the chance

[skygayzer]

(kulemii) i can't remember if i sent this yet or not but: a7, a9, c6, d4, d6, e3, f10! thanks for participating! i really appreciate it <3

Ofc!!! And thank you too for creating a fun ! ❤

A.7 Favorite substory(ies)?

My favorite substory is probably between the little doll girl from Yakuza 0, (Majima has dad instincts and it's just really sweet and heart warming to see😭). And idk if this counts as a substory but all the little things you have to do for Kiryu's kids like getting a shonen manga for Taichi, or helping Izumi train her dog.

Can u tell that my favorite trope is found family?

A.9 Favorite game location(s)?

KAMUROCHO! idk I just like the feel of it, it's homey for some reason. But also Okinawa for suuree, for aesthetic purposes hoho.

C.6 If you could revive any deceased character, who would it be and why?

NISHIKI, NISHITANI, SAGAWA, RYUJI, YASUKO, MIREI, OG OKUDERA, LEE, TACHIBANA, REINAAAAA!!! I know I missed so many other characters but those are the ones I remember the most.

D.4 Which character(s) do you believe should have never existed in the first place?

Okay so I know I said Mr. Libido (I still very strongly stand by that btw) but maybe the love interest in Yakuza 5?? Like no hate to her or anything I just felt like she was kinda unnecessary???

D.6 Do you think Kiryu was a good father figure to Haruka and Daigo?

Ohhhh... Oh man that's a really good question. Kiryu did try his best as a father figure, like he truly loved daigo and haruka. BUT, this might sound stupid, I think he was too traumatized to be a good dad.. (Just look at HIS dad 🙄)

Kiryu had a lot going on mentally and I think he wasn't exactly ready to be a father or someone in charge. The events through the whole series takes place in a short time.. Like my guy can't EVEN GET A COUPLE OF YEARS TO BE HAPPY HE IS ALWAYS SAVING SOMEONE!!!

BUUUT I also think that maybe if he was given more time to himself, and to his kids I think he would have grown as a person and would have been a much better father figure. (I am shit at explaining things so if this sounds stupid I KNOW)!!

E.3 Shinada or Tanimura?

OH WAIT THAT'S SO HAAARD, I obviously I love Shinada as a character much more then Tanimura. I think that's because he just has a lot more personality.. But Tanimura is a really cool too, I like how he helps and makes his way around little Asia, and I wish we just could have gotten so much more out of it.. OH WHO AM I KIDDING THE BEST CHARACTER TO PARTY WITH IS SHINADA SO BRING HIM BACK!!!!! 🕺🕺🕺🎶

F.10 Who would be your kyodai?

LEEEE!! He was so cool and good he deserves to be happy and to see Makoto happy 😩😩😩😩!!

[majimemegoro]

Yama Oroshi at home

[majimemegoro]

how clean would you say the okuderas are.

[majimemegoro]

og okudera sneak preview

[majimemegoro]

in zoom class rn but lately i cant stop thinking about all the prominent commonalities btwn the two most important people in Sato’s adult life, Okudera and Kadokura

smiles a lot, very animated in both body and expressions

fundamentally miserable, but very good at seeking distraction

partying! substances!

tendency to get fixated on particular people, & idealize and/or project onto them

goes periodically into a Slough of Despond but recovers fast

[majimemegoro]

What's smaller? The amount of time it took for Yama-oroshi to kill OG Okudera or Baba's waistline?

YUO COME INTO MY ASKBOX-

may i remind you that we don't know how long sato was passed out. we don't know how long okudera spent, alone, in a blizzard, already wounded, fighting to protect the unconscious body of the person he wanted to die for. may i remind you that he may not even have known why sato was unconscious. may i remind you that we don't know how far the fight ranged—whether okudera, realizing he wouldnt be able to defeat yama-oroshi, tried to lure the bear as far as possible away from sato before he was defeated. whether that's how yama-oroshi ended up at the village. and may i remind you we don't know how long it might have taken okudera, already injured with the wounds that would kill him, to walk and stumble and eventually crawl, leaving a trail of blood, back to the place where his hunting partner lay, just so that he could hold his hand one last time.

so yeah personally i think babas waistline is smaller but thats just a headcanon.

[majimemegoro]

Yes he’s a canon character. No he’s never appeared in any games or spin-off content. Yes he’s one of my faves. No I will not elaborate.

[majimemegoro]

So what do we actually know about og okudera?

this is not meant to be fully exhaustive, i dont have notes or anything, im just going off the op of my head and sharing some facts the canon gives us about og okudera, and some interpretations (characterization etc) we might make from them. please note that many of these facts are told through sato, which means that they are NOT actually confirmed by canon (since sato could be lying or not telling the whole truth). However if we don’t trust anything sato says, we have basically nothing to go on. so this post is written under the assumption that what sato tells us is basically true. without further ado: what do we actually know about og okudera?

A) Okudera was kicked out of his yakuza Family in Tohoku and marked for death

he did something his Family didnt like

maybe he’s moral. maybe hes not very smart. in conjunction with D (rescuing a convict) maybe he’s just impulsive. maybe a mix.

B) Okudera lived in the village for some time (more than a year) but the villagers didn’t know his name

he kept himself separate from the villagers

(not my headcanon, but “okudera” might have been a fake name—hence why it was useful for sato to take it, whereas the identities of men with a hit out on them aren’t usually seen as desirable targets of identity theft)

okudera probably went to the village to hide out because he knew he was in trouble

C) The villagers considered OKudera to be “one of them”/ not an outsider in a way they never considered Sato to be, even after 10 yrs

in conjunction with E (knowing how to hunt), maybe he’s matagi or they had reason to believe he was matagi (e.g. he told them, whereas sato never did)

D) Okudera found a guy passed out in the snow in an abashiri uniform and took care of him

In conjunction with H (letting sato kill him), maybe hes kind and generous

in conjunction with B, maybe he’s lonely

In conjunction with A, maybe he’s impulsive/ makes bad decisions

E) Okudera taught Sato how to hunt and gather

he had experience with hunting and gathering either before or during his time as a yakuza (probably before)

maybe he grew up in a hunting community. in conjunction with C, maybe he’s matagi

hes patient and knowledgeable enough to teach someone something and do a pretty good job

F) Nishina thought Okudera came to the village to make money and went after yama-oroshi to make money

okudera had vibes of someone who wanted/needed money

maybe he was bedraggled or poor looking. maybe hes bad with money in general, hence the fact that he didn’t have any saved up/wasnt able to fetch it (possibly fled tohoku in a hurry)

maybe he actually did want and need money, maybe he actually did come to the village as part of the hunting boom (possibly to make enough money for a new identity and to move away from the reach of the yakuza)

he apparently didn’t make enough money to do any of that during the time he spent in the village. maybe hes not very good at hunting. maybe he’s bad with money and spends too much to save up (in conjunction with the other impulsivity points)

G) sakurai thought okudera was chasing after yama-oroshi to help the village; also called okudera “a good guy”

in conjunction with B, okudera has a friendly or easygoing demeanor / appearance that makes people have fond feelings towards him despite his keeping them at arms’ length (note though that it’s sakurai, who also has something nice to say about Gonsuke...)

H) Okudera knew sato was there to kill him, but concealed that fact and didn’t try/want to stop him

in conjunction with D, maybe Okudera is generous

despite probably being impulsive, he’s also capable of exhibiting self control, sticking to his convictions, and completing a plan (hiding his knowledge from sato, possibly for an extended period)

passively su*cidal : maybe miserable, feels guilty for something, doesn’t like being in the village, doesn’t like hunting, etc.... all possibilities.

I) Sato said that he learned to be a conscientious hunter from Nishina, from the mountain, and from the village; he doesn’t mention Okudera.

in conjunction with F and with the fact that he was yakuza, maybe okudera wasn’t a truly conscientious hunter

so if he’s matagi as above, he may be a disaffected matagi and/or dislike the mountain lifestyle in general

anyway i so thats where i got a lot of my characterization for og okudera from. im listening to My Way by frank sinatra as i post this

[majimemegoro]

Hey comrade, fun thought for you, idk whether or not you’ve considered/talked about this before but: what if Sato and Okudera had switched places? (Sato was the hunter and Okudera the convict)

How do you think their story would have changed, if at all?

THANK YOU for the delightful ask and sorry it took so long to get to.

ok SO im assuming that their backstories stay mostly the same to canon, bc their backstories really inform their characters and motivations. so Sato is still an ex-hitman, but hes hiding out in the mountains and hes been marked for death and okudera (another hitman) escapes from abashiri to kill him. he almost dies and sato rescues him and nurses him back to health, yadda yadda you know the setup.

now, where do things get different?

okudera is less emotionally constipated than sato. like he still has emotional blindspots, but I think that the real reason that the canon story ended in tragedy is because sato is so cut off from his emotions, so self-absorbed, so goal-oriented, so consumed by his mission, that he actually isnt able to acknowledge how much hes come to care for okudera until the very last minute, which also coincidentally happens to be the exact point at which it becomes too late.

so in this AU... we don't run into the same problem. okudera falls in love with sato, and he actually realizes that's what's happening. so hes able to think about his situation, and actually decide that he doesn't want sato dead. that he wouldnt be able to kill sato if he did want to. that he would throw everything else away.

of course hes still a dramatic, impulsive guy who can be pretty unhinged, and he still has this self-effacing love, because how could you have og okudera without that? so of course when he gives sato the big reveal, airs his love and his crime and his repentance all at once, he also offers sato his life. in fact, he probably just assumes that sato is going to kill him. and he's fine with that. part of him even wants it.

as for sato's reaction... confusion. it's not easy for him to understand that someone could love him, and as for the bizarre situation, he believes it bc theres a hit out on him. his instinct is to assume that by "revealing" that he's a repentant hitman, okudera is doing some kind of mind game or whatever. but rationally that just doesnt make sense as a strategy so sato would have to accept it. it would take some time though. but he WILL refuse point blank to take okuderas life.

I do also think that sato would be surprised by the revelation, bc for all his generosity and how observant he can be, satos life is dominated by an interiority that is suffocating and makes him really self-absorbed especially when it comes to emotional happenings. (nb: he isnt selfish, hes self-absorbed. big difference.) furthemore okudera, being somewhat used to at least the idea of intimate relationships of a certain kind, wouldnt get as stressed out about the whole thing, so I also think he wouldnt give as many "tells" that he is secretly a hitman as sato (as a hitman in canon) does. So sato doesnt really suspect that okudera is a hitman until okudera tells him.

one question would be, well, how quickly does okudera realize whats happening, and how quickly does he make the reveal? and is it soon enough?

theres 2 different aus right there lol.

[majimemegoro]

my parents’ theories on what happened to mr okudera’s hunting partner

hes living up on the mountain somewhere

mr okudera killed him

he turned into a bear (yama-oroshi)

mr okudera is keeping him locked up somewhere on the mountain

mr okudera is keeping him locked up in the back room

[majimemegoro]

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