#oc: madelaine holloway
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Beau would be the overprotective kind of sire. I'm talking the Karen on the PTA. You fuck with his kid, he'll ruin your life. And he spoils them. So much.
Izzy is the type to teach the important stuff then disappear for a century or two before barreling back into your life without so much as a by-your-leave.
Madelaine has a very hands off approach. She arranges for others to do most of the teaching but is very affectionate and supportive in other ways.
Eleni is the tough love type. She'll beat the lesson into you until it sticks, figuratively and literally. Then once she's broken you, she'll rebuild you from the ground up.
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thechaosmuses · 2 years ago
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Below the cut you'll find a list of my TW muses along with their face claims (more info about each oc muse will be up soon but if you have any questions in the meantime don't be afraid to pm me, I have info on Google Docs for all of them.)
Total Muses; 39 Newest Member; Jared Parrish & Stephen HemmingAdded; 5/15/23
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(Quick note; just like with my tvdu muse list all families are in order of oldest to youngest.)
Void Azazel Reynard... portrayed by Dylan O'Brien Aspen Bella Stilinski... portrayed by Hailee Steinfeld Mieczyslaw Noah Stilinski... portrayed by Dylan O'Brien Scott Gregorio McCall... portrayed by Tyler Posey Christopher Henry Argent... portrayed by JR Bourne Adrian Archer Argent... portrayed by Drew Roy Allison Artemis Argent... portrayed by Crystal Reed Addison Athena Argent... portrayed by Danielle Rose Russell Lyla Sage Martin... portrayed by Grace Holley Lydia Sophia Martin... portrayed by Holland Roden Jackson William Whittemore... portrayed by Colton Haynes Derek Samuel Hale... portrayed by Tyler Hoechlin Cora Avery Hale... portrayed by Adelaide Kane Amaia Tala Alexander... portrayed by Katelyn Nacon Malik Elias Hale... portrayed by Matthew Daddario Madelaine Emery Hale... portrayed by Emeraude Toubia Camden Matthew Lahey... portrayed by Charlie Hunnam Isaiah Parker Lahey... portrayed by Andrew Garfield Isaac Michael Lahey... portrayed by Daniel Sharman Vernon Dallas Boyd... portrayed by Sinqua Walls Danny Keahu Mahealani... portrayed by Keahu Kahuanui Malia Elizabeth Tate... portrayed by Shelley Hennig Kira Jade Yukimura... portrayed by Arden Cho Amadora Constance Sharpe... portrayed by Sofia Carson Theodore Christian Raeken... portrayed by Cody Christian Callum Tate Raeken... portrayed by Hero Fiennes-Tiffin Dawson Cole Reynolds... portrayed by Steven R. McQueen Jordan Tyler Parrish... portrayed by Ryan Kelley Jared Taylor Parrish... portrayed by Niall Horan Aiden Jacob Steiner... portrayed by Max Carver Mason Cade Hewitt... portrayed by Khylin Rhambo Brett Lee Talbot... portrayed by Cody Saintgnue Garrett Cole Williams... portrayed by Mason Dye Nolan Andrew Holloway... portrayed by Froy Gutierrez Bobby Adam Finstock... portrayed by Orny Adams Marin Sophia Morrell... portrayed by Bianca Lawson Braeden Valerie Bardot... portrayed by Meagan Tandy Deucalion Damien Hemming... portrayed by Gideon Emery Stephen Ezekiel Hemming... portrayed by Harry Styles
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woolfcried · 7 years ago
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STARTER CALL. for my asoue muses! because my muse is through the roof! ( abraham armstrong / oc, carmelita spats, colette, marjorie clarke / oc, madelaine widdershins / oc, frank denouement, jerome squalor, mr. quagmire, clara caroll / oc, orville moor / oc, dinah holloway / oc, vivian prescott / oc + verse )
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So like Madelaine didnt realize at first how she was falling for Kashif
Up until that point, she was only ever attracted to women/feminine-presenting individuals and then suddenly Kashif arrived at Corliss' office all angry and Madelaine went O.O
But she played it cool cause shes not the type to make a scene, then he took down two guys when they were hunting Tremere in the sewers, and he was all righteous when he told her his plan to assassinate Corliss, and then he broke her out of her cell, and suddenly shes in Waterloo living day-by-day and wondering wtf she did to get to that
Its only after all that chaos that she gets time to actually think about what shes been doing (and a swift knock down by Sevinc) that she realizes
And at first she panics because wtf she only liked women???? But when Kashif has a knife and does that twirly thing with his hands she immediately decides that yes she likes women, but also she just likes Kashif and it's not fair for him to be so like that.
It still takes them almost 6 months to get together tho
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So here's a thing about Madelaine's relationships w/ Ward, Sevinc, and Hauberk. Everything is under the cut b/c it be a long boi (as all my posts seem to be whoops :/)
Quick Overview:
So Ward, Sevinc, and Hauberk eventually go to Waterloo after being driven out of Ottawa and updated Baron Zaslow on the situation in the city
(I'm thinking Archon Durand has taken over under the guise of stamping out the Anarch threat, but is clearly just amassing power for her own ends)
Naturally, Madelaine learned of their arrival relatively quickly - news travels fast through the Anarch grape vine, and Baron Zaslow's high opinion of Ward was common knowledge
(The only thing Zaslow had a problem w/ was Ward's friendship w/ Arundel. This was also common knowledge, and many of the other Anarchs agreed w/ Zaslow that Ward had been way too close w/ Ottawa's Prince)
(Madelaine kept her own counsel about it, but she still listened and added all the juicy new info to the other rumours she learned when she was w/ the Camarilla)
Robert Ward:
Madelaine's opinion of Ward is fairly neutral. She doesn't know him well and never had much time to form much of an opinion
One thing she does know is that he's an extremist - the constant bombings sort of gave that away - and that's something she can't tolerate
So when Ward showed up, there was a slight dislike, but otherwise, she wasn’t sure what to make of him
Contrastingly, Ward was ecstatic that Madelaine had made her way to Waterloo. He was quick to try and build a friendship w/ her, despite the rough beginning they had in Ottawa, something that she hesitatingly reciprocated
It was tough for them simply b/c they are such radically different people, but they were able to bond over the one thing they had in common: Arundel
Ward told Madelaine about how Arundel always said good things about her, almost like he was a proud sire. And Ward may not be the brightest, but he can recognize the similarities she and Arundel share (and that makes Ward miss Arundel more)
It also makes Madelaine miss Arundel more too (he was sort of a father-figure to her, after all), if only b/c she never got to hear him say those things to her himself
(She doubts that he would've actually done so, but it's a nice thought)
There's also a lot of guilt there too b/c she never tried looking for him and she ends up wondering how things would've been different if she had
Sevinc:
Of course, Madelaine's disapproval of Ward's extremist nature meant that she and Sevinc clash horribly whenever they interact
Sevinc is a staunch Anarch extremist. Her suspicions regarding anyone remotely Camarilla also made her inclined to dislike Madelaine from the beginning. She challenges Madelaine and questions her motives constantly, it’s exhausting
Madelaine, of course, is dealing w/ a lot right now given how it was only recently that she defected to the Anarchs and Sevinc's insinuations weren't helping. So she becomes really passive aggressive and surprisingly petty
But there's also a sort of mutual respect there too? Not much, but it's enough for them to work together for short periods of time
(Really, really short periods of time)
Madelaine grudgingly admires Sevinc for her strong convictions, even if she disapproves of her methods, and the same applies to Sevinc regarding Madelaine
Of course, they would never admit that to anyone else
The night Madelaine and Sevinc ever agree on something is the night that the Antediluvians turn out to be real, awaken, and kill them all
Hauberk:
So to explain Madelaine's relationship w/ Hauberk, I feel like I need to explain the overall dynamic of Madelaine's relationship w/ Corliss, Arundel, and Ward
So Arundel and Corliss are something like a divorced couple that have a co-parenting relationship, and Madelaine is the child being passed b/n them (sort of a 70/30 custody thing at the beginning before changing to Corliss having her full-time (Arundel still pays child support))
Ward is Arundel's new boyfriend that Corliss is resentful of and Hauberk is Ward's adopted kid
Based on that, Hauberk feels threatened when Ward and Madelaine start bonding, and so he takes that frustration out on Madelaine by always being angry and aggressive and always trying to start something
Madelaine is only mostly annoyed by this - Sevinc is better at riling her up, and it's partially thanks to her that Madelaine develops a thicker skin - but one day he manages to hit a nerve and she snaps
Combat isn't her strong suit, but she doesn't really need it to intimidate him since she has Dread Gaze, and by god it worked (like, Messy Critical worked)
After that, Ward came down hard on both of them (something about not tearing each others' throats out before they take Ottawa), resulting in Hauberk and Madelaine avoiding each other and only interacting when they absolutely had to
Like, they still loathe each other, but they’ve gone from actively hostile step-siblings to “I still hate you, but I’ve elected to ignore you” step-siblings
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So I played the VTM: Sins of the Sires demo and I really enjoyed it!
My MC is Joni Ioannou. Haven’t worked out their background quite yet, there’s lots of variety and I want to finagle w/ it a bit more. I like the idea of them w/ tattoos though.
Some spoilers about Disciplines below the cut:
I know I want Animalism and Auspex to be their strongest Disciplines, Animalism b/c I’ve never really used it in any of the other games (also I liked the story of how Markos found you if you pick it first) and Auspex b/c I adore Auspex.
The others I’m not so sure about. I’m leaning towards Celerity and Obfuscate, but I kinda want to try something new (like, more new than what i did w/ Madelaine - Madelaine was a departure from my usual type of character (intelligence-based and stealthy) since she’s primarily specked in Presence and Charisma/Manipulation).
I’m leaning towards a Tremere character this time around, so maybe Dominate and either Fortitude or Potence? I would go Malkavian, but I’ve already got Beau and Izzy lmao
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Just wanna gush about my MC for Parliament of Knives, a Toreador propagandist named Madelaine Holloway. Also, spoilers.
Her father fought in WW2 and came back suffering from PTSD, which severely hampered him for the rest of his life. Her mother had to take on everything - running the household, taking care of Madelaine and her father, and working to make sure they had enough to live. When Madelaine was old enough, her mother roped her into helping too.
B/c of how her father was effected, Madelaine hated war. She joined the Canadian Voice of Women for Peace in 1960 and worked w/ them to dissuade world leaders from resorting to violence. Her mother disapproved (and so did her father, when it was one of his good days), but this is the one occasion where she rebelled against their wishes in favour of doing what she thought was right.
This is how she met Grace Epting.
Grace was an avid spokesperson for VOW, despite being known amongst the community as somewhat of a recluse. Madelaine and Grace met at several nightly events to discuss the going-ons w/n the organization.
In the mid-1960s, Grace introduced Madelaine to Leslie Subban, a Black feminist and activist. Madelaine and Leslie instantly became friends, and eventually, lovers. Unfortunately, this was the last straw for Madelaine’s parents, who stopped speaking to her.
In the late-1960s, Grace invited Madelaine to her office to discuss what she deemed to be the next stage in VOW’s agenda. It was during this meeting that Grace, a Toreador blackmailer affiliated w/ the Sabbat, embraced Madelaine. Then when Leslie arrived, also having been called to a meeting w/ Grace, Madelaine attacked and killed them.
Then the rest is history - Eden Corliss showed up to confront Grace, they fought, Corliss diablerized Grace, and finally Arundel arrived and suppressed Madelaine’s memory of the event.
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Madelaine teaching Kashif how to ice skate
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So like Madelaine and Kashif ran off to join the Anarchs in Waterloo
And obviously Madelaine had a hell of a time cause 1) she was used to the high-society that’s the Camarilla and things on the ground are extremely different 2) tbh she was very sheltered given how she worked as Corliss’ secretary for most of her unlife and hardly ever went outside and 3) the other Anarchs thought she was real sus, potentially being a Camarilla spy and all that.
So Kashif was basically her only ally and that was very stressful. Not b/c he’s a bad guy to have on your side, but b/c she’s used to having more support - Jordan and Gerard for sure, maybe Qui, and apparently Arundel? (which was a surprise b/c she always thought that she was just Corliss’ childe to him but everyone else kept saying otherwise).
In short, the first month or so w/ the Anarchs was rough for Madelaine.
But Kashif owed her a debt - not only did she agree to help him, not only did she willingly throw away the only life she has ever known and give up everything in doing so, but she also stopped him from staining his soul. And he saw how much difficulty she was having adjusting so he helped her.
But he didn’t just do it b/c of his debt.
Madelaine was essentially in the same position Kashif himself was in a few months ago. In Ottawa, Kashif was the outsider and Madelaine was an established member of the Camarilla. In Waterloo, Madelaine is the outsider while Kashif is more trusted by the Anarchs. And Kashif is an honorable man - he recognized those similarities and b/c Madelaine helped him, he decided to return the favour.
As a result, they grew pretty close. There’s this mutual respect and eventually trust b/n them. They just seem to get each other, you know?
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Kashif wasn’t the only one who saw how much difficulty Madelaine was having acclimating to the Anarchs.
Baron Zaslow did too.
Zaslow also used to be Camarilla, so he knew what Madelaine was going through. So he takes the time to get to know her, making sure she settles in and slowly, they build a tentative trust.
Eventually Madelaine starts going on reconnaissance missions (always w/ other Anarchs, of course), but she really starts to prove herself when diplomacy is required to advance their plans i.e. gathering more allies.
It really helps to have someone who can talk to people, and while Zaslow is plenty charismatic, he leans more towards a fire and brimstone approach. Sometimes, you need a subtler hand and Madelaine is perfect for that.
But Zaslow can also tell that Madelaine has doubts, so he continues to keep a very close eye on her (for good reason tbh).
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So Ward did have ulterior motives for becoming friendly w/ Madelaine. And naturally, it has to do w/ Arundel.
Ward loves the guy, so of course he isn't willing to give up looking for him. Sevinc convinced him to forget about it for a short while, but when they arrived in Waterloo and saw that Madelaine was there, it made Ward want to try one last time.
Madelaine was hesitant about Ward's overtures of friendship but ended up giving in. They spent a few months helping Zaslow's Anarchs and getting to know each other. Eventually, Ward asks Madelaine to partner w/ him on a scouting mission.
Now Madelaine, who usually partners w/ Kashif or her adopted childe Derick, is suspicious. Zaslow typically leaves it up to the Anarchs to arrange themselves into teams and Ward usually groups up w/ Sevinc and Hauberk. It was especially strange that Ward only wanted Madelaine to go w/ him, to Sevinc's obvious disapproval.
(Sevinc, of course, knew what Ward was planning. She tried to convince him not to go through w/ it, but Ward does what he wants)
B/c of this, Madelaine has a feeling that Ward is up to something. Despite that, she decides to trust him (only up to a point though, see below). By now, they're somewhat friends, and also, she couldn't see any reason for him to screw her over.
But still. Months w/ the Anarchs taught Madelaine a few things. As a result, she's become more cagey and a bit cynical. So she goes to the one person she trusts most at the moment: Kashif. She lets him know that something is up and promises to fill him in on the situation when she and Ward get back.
(She and Kashif have a whole back-and-forth about it, Kashif even offering to follow at a distance, but Madelaine doesn't want to cause any problems b/n him and Zaslow. Zaslow doesn't really run a tight ship (that's Anarchs for you), but Kashif being gone for too long w/o notice could hurt his standing. And depending on what Ward wants, she wants at least one of them to still be on Zaslow's good side)
Once she and Ward leave however, Ward fills her in on what he hopes to achieve. And Madelaine, who deeply regrets not looking for Arundel, agrees to help.
(How could she not? It's Arundel, practically her father figure)
Even so, what happens if they do find Arundel? Zaslow may think well of Ward, but there is no way in hell he would call off the assault on Ottawa, not now that they have come so far.
When they get to the villa, not much changes from the events of the game. The only difference is that Trevor Haidt isn't alone - the Quebec Tremere planned on moving Arundel back to Quebec City, so there are a couple mortal guards w/ him to ensure the job goes smoothly. But after Trevor and the mortals are dealt w/, Madelaine and Ward get into the villa's basement and find him. Arundel.
Naturally they free him, how could they not?
After explaining everything, Arundel is willing to welcome them both back into the Camarilla. There's no question in his mind about accepting Ward. He missed his old friend (and lover).
Arundel is also extremely proud of Madelaine. She might have arrived later than he expected, but she still came. And after hearing that she and Kashif killed Corliss, he especially admires her for her initiative and loyalty.
But nothing is ever simple.
The Camarilla is barely holding itself together under Vivian's leadership and Baron Zaslow is almost ready to attack Ottawa. Archon Durand stuck around and is prepping the city's defenses - the Anarchs haven't been subtle - while at the same time accumulating power for her own gain.
Also, Ward and Madelaine (and also Kashif, although not many are aware that he survived the Tremere Blood Hunt) were declared persona non grata, so there's no way the Camarilla would accept them back w/o reason.
So Arundel starts plotting. And just like w/ Corliss, Madelaine plays an important role.
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More about Madelaine pre-Parliament of Knives but post-Embrace:
Arundel and Corliss took her past into account (based on Grace's memories and the extensive records she kept) to train her accordingly i.e. improving Madelaine's considerable social skills
Madelaine developed a really good poker face b/c of her time w/ both of them (Arundel b/c his poker face is pretty godlike and she was trying to emulate him; Corliss b/c showing any weakness wasn't tolerated)
Training w/ Corliss made Madelaine's mental health really bad. She dealt w/ anxiety as a human but she never had full-on panic attacks until Corliss came into the picture
Madelaine really resented Corliss b/c of this but she kept quiet to avoid causing trouble
On the other hand, Arundel praised Madelaine whenever she did well and this made her work even harder to impress him
He became something like a father-figure to her, since her own father wasn't mentally well enough to fill that role
It helped that he legitimately wanted her to succeed (and Madelaine's not blind, she always knew deep down that Corliss was waiting for her to fail)
Jordan is Madelaine's closest friend - she helped Madelaine develop better coping methods for dealing w/ Corliss and also helped her come to terms w/ her early un-life angst
A part of Madelaine sees lots of similarities b/n Jordan and her dead lover Leslie
She doesn't remember anything about Leslie b/c embrace trauma, but it still stopped her from ever acting on any feelings she might've had for Jordan
Gerard used to be a butler - she thinks highly of him and always treated him w/ respect (she's no Batman, but Gerard is basically her Alfred)
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Some stuff about Nathaniel “Nate” Harris and his relationship w/ his younger “sister,” Madelaine:
Pre-Parliament of Knives:
So I’m guessing that Corliss would have all her childer train together on occasion, this way they can learn from and learn how to work w/ each other. So obviously, this means Madelaine, Lucca, and Nate all knew each other prior to Corliss sending Lucca away to handle her businesses and Nate joining the Anarchs.
But before he left, Nate always sort of resented his “sisters.”
Lucca was the oldest, the most responsible, and also the one who had the most pressure put on her. She always strove to exceed their sire’s expectations, and usually succeeded. This in turn set the bar really high for Nate, but he frequently failed to meet that same standard, at least in Corliss’ eyes.
W/ Madelaine, Corliss always treated her differently - a mix of being both the baby and the favourite, and also a healthy amount of resentment that Lucca didn’t pick up on, but Nate did.
(The hot-cold nature of Corliss’ relationship w/ Madelaine was due to Grace’s influence. Madelaine was Grace’s childe and that showed in the favoritism, but Corliss resented Madelaine b/c not only did Madelaine remind her of that time she lost control but also b/c Arundel shoved the responsibility of the dead woman’s childe onto her.)
(She did want another childe, but she wanted it to be on her terms.)
But while Nate sympathized w/ how their sire seemed to despise Madelaine, he was still envious of how she was able to train w/ Arundel.
(And it had nothing to do w/ Arundel being Prince. Madelaine was embraced in the late-60s. Arundel wasn’t even Ottawa’s Seneschal at the time - he only became Seneschal after Prince Cranston’s coup in the late-70s/early-80s, according to Qui’s profile.)
(No, Nate’s jealousy had everything to do w/ her being able to “escape” their sire for a brief respite.)
Post-Parliament of Knives:
So by the time the game’s events happen, Nate and Madelaine haven’t seen each other in decades. Then Baron Zaslow comes along to where Nate and his Anarchs are holed up in order to form an alliance.
Nate is all for this, since the Baron is planning on bringing the fight right to the Camarilla’s front door - attacking Ottawa directly! - but he wasn’t about to just give into Zaslow’s demands w/o meeting him first.
And Zaslow brings Madelaine to the negotiations so she can learn how the Anarchs make deals, and she and Nate recognize each other immediately.
They don’t say anything, of course, but everyone knows something’s up.
During a break in the proceedings, Madelaine and Nate step away from the others to talk.
Madelaine briefly explains how she came to join Zaslow and promises a more detailed retelling of how she and Kashif killed Corliss, which Nate is very interested in. She also puts her persuasive capabilities to work in order to convince him that allying w/ the Baron would be beneficial.
And it works. Nate and his Anarchs join Zaslow’s forces and Madelaine proves her worth to the cause.
(Of course, there is some doubt regarding what she promised Nate in return, but she quickly clears things up w/ Zaslow. She also lets Kashif know b/c she doesn’t want him to be blindsided by having someone confront him about what they did.)
W/o Corliss there to pit them against each other and them having both changed due to their various experiences, Madelaine and Nate bond over their shared upbringing. This allows Madelaine to grow more comfortable w/ the Anarchs as she now has someone else in her corner and also allows Nate to actually get to know his younger “sister.”
Mind you, she never tells him that she was never actually Corliss’ childe to begin w/. Like w/ Lucca, she feels that it would backfire on her, although for different reasons.
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So Madelaine’s canon route is helping Kashif. Long post ahead (I feel like this is just my modus operandi lol).
Neither of the romances seemed to fit (she and Qui are more respected business partners, and Jordan... Madelaine’s too afraid to turn their relationship into something more) and neither did either of the official alliances (Vivian’s too shady and Bouchard’s too abrasive).
But Kashif? Madelaine didn’t think much of him in the beginning, but she did agree w/ Arundel that welcoming the Banu Haqim would be beneficial. She found the hostility to them to be a bit surprising - there’s a difference b/n hearing about it and seeing it, after all - and even more surprising was her own visceral reaction to it.
Madelaine doesn’t remember anything from her human life, but she’s no stranger to injustice. She’s always chaffed against the Camarilla’s rules, but she was satisfied w/ the way Arundel ran things and as such, was willing to tolerate it. Then Arundel disappeared.
So when Kashif told Corliss that he was receiving threatening letters and she dismissed his concerns, Madelaine spoke up (subtly, of course, she learned the art of diplomacy and manipulation from both the Seneschal and the Prince, and subtlety had always been a key part of her training).
Likewise, Kashif didn’t think much of Madelaine until she agreed w/ his concerns, then he started paying more attention. He started feeling her out, testing her loyalties, but only after she helped him against the Tremere did he become relatively certain that she would be willing to go along w/ his plot to assassinate Corliss.
(Unlike Ophelia. If you ask him about her after killing Corliss, he says that she betrayed his trust. He doesn’t explain how, but it probably has to do w/ how she was working w/ Vivian. Never mind how Ophelia’s willing to throw him under the bus if he fails to kill Corliss and is executed...)
By that point, Madelaine had grown so disillusioned about Corliss’ reign that she was actively speaking out against it. However, she was still loyal to the Camarilla. She was horrified by Ward’s methods and the chaos everything was falling into, and w/ Arundel still missing, she began to think that Corliss taking over was inevitable unless someone stopped her, and no one seemed to be willing to. It didn’t help that Jordan came to her and unlocked her memories - Madelaine’s not stupid, as soon as she realized that Corliss wasn’t her real sire, she knew that her mentor would get rid of her.
Kashif offered her a solution and she agreed. Despite hating violence w/ a passion, it seemed like the only option left. And after they succeeded, they ran off together to join Baron Zaslow’s Anarch rebellion in Waterloo.
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Title: Holloway AU Alphabet Prompts
Chapter: H for Haunted
Pairing: Kashif Salik/Madelaine Holloway (OC)
Summary: There are things Madelaine doesn't know, will never know, cares not to know about Grace. Some things are best left unsaid, some thoughts best un-had.
However, Kashif makes her realize that ignoring the problems will not make them go away.
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Title: Holloway AU Alphabet Prompts
Chapter: G for Grace
Pairing: Kashif Salik/Madelaine Holloway (OC)
Summary: By their very base nature, Kindred trust no one but themselves. And yet, Madelaine entrusts Kashif with a secret that others would kill for.
This is how Kashif learns about Grace Epting.
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