#not because im a catholic gay latino

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People saying gay/queer Eddie wont happen is blowing me because... what else could Eddies storyline be building to like?? It is most definitely happening brother😭 like mama lets research:

-They said we could have gotten bi buck in season 4 and queer Eddie in season 5 but it was scrapped.. we got bi buck season 7... gee i wonder what they're re cooking up for season 8 🤔🧐

-They made marisol a nun just to give eddie even more catholic guilt and catholic guilt? It's historically gay sorry i dont make the rules eddie boykisser. (Im joking but this arch seriously had eddie analyzing the toxic masculinity he was raised with/grew up around which is something that a lot of queer poc men or queer military men do before coming out. Im also like 90% sure this guilt is the reason he had a breakdown and started dating his ex-wife's evil twin but who knows 🤷🏾‍♀️)

-Eddie and Tommy were supposed to be together S7 but they scrapped it because they didn't think it fit. I see people using this as a reason to think RG or production don't want queer Eddie but I am genuinely confused by that because in MY mind it's another reason why S8 gay Eddie is going to happen. I dont think they scrapped it because they didn't want it but because it didn't fit Eddie as a character like there is no way Eddie 'i cant be honest with myself unless i have a mental breakdown first' Diaz is going to be out and proud in an 8 episode season. And also I think they knew the writing and episodes were going to be a bit wonky this season and that there was NOOO way they could write a coming out that fit Eddie with the strikes going on.

Ntm all the shit the production/crew does to make me think its going to happen. Oliver only posting Buddie content, members of the crew liking and replying to Buddie tweets, and that one insider going on the Eddie rant on twitter (this one barely counts for me because i have no clue who this person is but ik some care about what they have to say.)

gay eddie is going to happen i can feel it in my left ball u guys just STAY STRONG.

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She's hilarious but there's two videos where she starts to speak more mumblingly

ok first of all these are brilliant and i'm losing my mind and i love you, thank you for curating these to me.

i will transcribe them in a bit but i just felt the need to leave this "little" (it's long sorry) note:

as someone who's been raised catholic i just want to say that she is pretty wrong about almost everything she said about catholics, and i say that as someone who hates catholicism with my whole mind body and soul and who's been traumatized by this stupid fucking faith to the point where i can't get into a church without breaking into sobs dauihdasiuh. the catholic guilt is real but catholics are absolutely allowed to divorce and use contraceptives, and also have sex before marriage. the first one is met with some guilt esp from women altho honestly i think it's more due to mysoginist reasons than religious reasons, and the second and third ones are commonpractice and if you say that it's wrong and bad everyone will think you're a fucking weirdo

and even with the divorce thing, while the guilt is there (im pretty sure half the reason my mom doesn't divorce is because she would feel guilty about it, although again, i feel like that's got very little to do with religion and way more with internalized mysoginy), i cannot stress enough that divorce is allowed, almost everyone i know has divorced parents and they're all catholics. the church's official position is kinda weird (as of now pope francis basically said that it's "morally necessary" in some cases but he also referred to ppl who divorced and remarried as "imperfect", but like, it hasn't been forbidden for years, so much so that people get second marriages at catholic churches literally all the time, and i kinda feel like ppl overestimate how much ppl care about what the pope says. at least here in latam, cuz we've always kind of freestyled religion since it was imposed on us anyway, but like... in my experience the average catholic practitioner is INCREDIBLY less conservative than the vatican and i feel like most people don't even know what the pope says or doesn't say. and i'm saying that as someone whose grandfather almost became a priest and only gave that up because he fell in love with my grandmother, and he's been a ferverent catholic his entire life. also two of his kids divorced, one married a divorced woman, one is gay and living together without marriage with his divorced boyfriend, one never married, and one had two kids before marriage which necessarily means that they fucked, and none of that was ever a problem to him. oh, also, my dad had divorced AND he was a buddhist when him and my mom married. currently he is a spiritist)

i think it might be possible that u technically have to ask for "permission" to the church to remarry in church, but in practice i think it's more of a ritualistic thing than actually asking for permission, cuz i've never met a single person who had them say no. it was pretty much "hey local bishop guy so my husband sucked and we divorced can i marry again" "sure lol". obviously it sucks that you even have to ask, but it's nowhere near as strict as people seem to think

the contraceptive thing is also absurd. like i cannot stress enough that my family would absolutely flip if they found out i DIDN'T use contraception. that was always something that my family reinforced very strongly, ESPECIALLY my grandpa. i've never met a single catholic who does not teach their kids to use contraceptives. my high school was catholic (literally named the Holy Cross, fun times, although they didn't impose the faith or anything. in fact almost half of the students in that school are jewish, but like, still, there was a priest in the school board) and we were taught to use contraceptives, put the condom in a banana and the whole pizzazz during biology class

like yeah the bible says not to but it also says not to mix different fabrics and that doesn't mean it's actually a thing that's reinforced in most catholic communities doaihdaj at least not here in latam. in here non-catholic christians are actually way more hardcore about the puritanism rules than catholics are, particularly evangelicals, which are kind of overtaken the catholics' traditional role of being colonialist fuckers as they are mostly from the US so they come to further US imperialism through religion here. watch out catholic church they're coming for ur crown

and even outside of puritanism, "non practicing catholics" are absolutely a thing like ppl who are catholic but don't even pray or go to church, much less care about that shit douahdsaohj so like the stereotype that all catholics are like the very small minority of hardcore catholics is like the stereotype that every muslim lives by the ultra-conservative muslim rules. it's not true and it's stereotypical and taking the minority ultra conservatives to be the rule when they are not

there's also the fact that there are many different currents of thought inside the catholic church (a little bit like with judaism although way less flexible than judaism is), some of which are very conservative, some of which are progressive. here in latam in particular the teology of liberation is extremely popular (it's the one my family subscribes to, and i'm pretty sure it was actually born here in latam) and it's pretty progressive. for catholics, that is

and like mandatory disclaimer that i am coming from my own experiences with latam catholicism, which i feel is different from other catholic countries - my polish friends for example have experiences with catholicism that are a lot closer to those stereotypes than mine ever were - but since most of the catholic population in the world is brazilian (like me), and second place goes to mexicans, i feel pretty comfortable taking it as a ruler to measure general catholic practices

with that being said, however, the catholic church can choke and die in a fire as it is a symbol of colonialism first and foremost, its proselitism is one of the worst things ever, and even the progressive currents are still way too damn conservative for my tastes. i just don't feel comfortable transcribing something that i know is incorrect and stereotypical (and that in some cases is used to further oppression like with the Irish in the UK or armenian catholics, and i've even had some US-diaspora latinos hear some incredible things from gringos who assumed they were catholic, or, in their beautiful words, "had latino religion". but obviously in most cases catholics are the oppressors, especially here in the third world)

also, her assessment in the third video is absolutely correct. A/B/O IS just conservative gender roles born of christian and catholic imposition transposed to a fictional world where the genders have slightly different names, which is why i, as a rule, hate it dauhdsaiuhdauhda and even though the assessment that catholicism is thaaat much more conservative than other christian religions (it's absolutely not, it's Exactly As Conservative) isn't true, catholicism is still where most if not all of western conservative rethoric is born of, and ugh, it's so refreshing to see someone understand this and put it into words so well

so yeah keep that note in mind but anyway, transcriptions:

[Video transcription #1: in reply to a tiktok question, which says, "now i'm thinking about the catholic guilt that would come with it oh my god". user @Omarsbigsister is saying, "good morning", she then covers her mouth as she starts to laugh, before continuing, "I guess I'm the religious omegaverse tiktoker now. I did not know catholic guilt was more than just sex, I thought it was just about sex, but nO. people who are catholic, if you don't know, they get guilt over every little thing, they get guilty when they eat, they have guilt when, like... [dismissive gesture] they have fun... it's messed up *cut* [mumbling i don't understand, sorry] in which you HAVE to be bonded before... *sticks tongue out* *cut* and catholics, from what i know, uhm, cannot get divorced, so you can't be unbonded, you're stuck for life with that alpha or omega, and then you can't use contraceptives so if you have a heat or rut, good luck, you cannot escape it, and on top of that, they preach abstinence, right, so if you're having a heat or rut in your teen years you just gotta deal with it alone like you are not allowed to be bonded, so, that would be really intense."

#2: in response to a question, which said, "follow up question: if in the real world hijabis are women, in ABO universe would hijabis be omegas of all genders?". the user is shown stroking her chin in contemplative silence for a long time, before she says, "actually, both men and women have to wear a hijab, it's just more visible on women, but men also have to cover from like, the neck all the way down... so like when you see them [mumbling i don't understand, sorry] that's their hijab. *cut* Islam is actually treating men and women, like, fairly somewhat equally, so, I feel like in omegaverse alphas, betas, and omegas would all be held to the same standards, and alphas and omegas would also be held by the same standards but then culture would ruin it, just like western culture has ruined it. for your other question. 'would muslim families prefer betas more, and would betas be spiritual leaders', i feel like everyone prefers betas more, but then also Islam came to like, uplift women [a written note then shows up, which says, "like girls are seen as a blessing to have as kids"], so like omegas would be seen as like, a blessing to have as a child.

#3: in response to another tiktok question, which says, "fun fact bestie you cannot get divorced in the catholic religion even if your spouse is abusive and horrible to you so in omegaverse how would that work?". she replies, "the reason that Abrahamic religions seemingly fit so well into the omegaverse universe is because catholicism specifically and christianity, uhm, all the gender norms and all the cultural norms especially in the west came from catholicism and christianity, they were forced on people, and then you know, people might not be religious, but the norms stay. but now you have omegaverse which is basically just a bunch of like youth exploring the youth through this, like, werewolf fanfiction trope, using all these gender roles that you have in society on their head, so, really, what i'm saying, is that... omegaverse is just catholicism fanfiction"

#4: she looks at the camera and says, "getting islamophobic comments is one thing, but getting islamophobic comments that say that muslims cannot be in the omegaverse".... she then breaks into laughter for a solid 30 seconds

#5: she is shown reading out loud, in a mock-outraged face, a tweet that says, "about to murder tiktok they try to make Ramadan a 'quirky' trend. it's a religious holiday. stop it, get some help. /srsly /g.", then a follow-up tweet, which says, "saw a tweet saying on tiktok they are asking questions about how ramadan would work in omegaverse. i'm done with y'all, just say you disrespect muslims and go". then another tweet by a different user, which says, "i tried to read, i got secondhand embarrassment-" they then break out of character and say, "oh, that's fair," before going back, "if it wasn't ramadan i'd be boxing those people right now. those people should be ashamed to even think that way wtf". then another, which replies, "well i'm not celebrating it, so as a non-muslim, i'll happily box them". then, back to her normal voice, she says, "i really was just making a silly little tiktok and seeing that stuff really hurts... i'm just kidding, i can't keep a straight face. you like minecraft youtubers, what are you gonna do to me? what are you gonna do to me?"

#6: in reply to a tiktok ask, which said, "prince philip was an omega". she slowly films herself as she takes a walk, finds the nearest trash bin, and tosses the phone there, before putting the lid over the box. end ID]

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No im getting why Lauren doesnt want to get marry cause she is still lost about her sexual preference// not all lesbians wants to marry unless for the purpose of legally deciding and/or legally being responsible for each other in the face of the law. Im a lesbian and I dont want to marry because I respect it's sanctity. It's not because I'm in denial of my sexual preference.

Personally, I don't think Lauren has problems with marriage per se, but with the issue of Catholicism. Her whole life has been linked to Catholicism and that is something common with Latino families, I understand that reluctance perfectly because the same thing happens to me. It is what Catholicism represents in marriage where the real problem lies, not in sexuality. That is a collateral detail. To take an example, homosexual marriage does not exist in my country, but there is something similar for same-sex couples called a civil union agreement. The state recognizes the rights of gay couples but the Catholic Church prohibits them. And our problem is that. The power that the Catholic Church still has in the country is immense and it is unlikely that we will be able to qualify for gay marriage by the Church any time soon. And that's kind of fucked up when you consider the amount of child sexual abuse that the church has concealed for centuries. It is the maximum hypocrisy. So I think that's the issue with Lauren and marriage, at least that's what I think according to what she has mentioned about it

[sortagaysortahigh]

i've known for awhile that i'm not straight. i'm not really sure what to label myself and honestly i don't want to bc i'm just so unsure especially with me having basically zero experience with boys or girls but i have never told a soul and it scares me to death honestly of coming out bc i'm just so afraid of losing my friends or them and my family thinking differently of me or being uncomfortable around me bc of it. i know i don't have to come out but it feels like this knot in my chest.

I know exactly what this feels like babe, im not gonna be that cliche ass “it gets better” person because truth be told its so hard to find yourself and its even harder to come out, especially when you don’t know what to label yourself as. Just know that you dont ever have to label yourself and you don’t have to make yourself fit into one of societys boxes. Even if you don’t have any experience rn don’t be afraid to branch out, talk to people who are on the lgbtq+ sexuality spectrum, learn more about the different labels, hell if youre attracted to someone of the same sex shoot your shot. I used to be so afraid of branching out, I was afraid of being gay and I was afraid of what people would think of me. For years i let my fears control me-hell I was dating guys snd faking it half the time just bc i was scared of getting disowned for liking coochie. With that being said, don’t let your fears control you.

For me ive always known that I wasn’t straight, like I was a little kid and my first crush was a girl named bella in second grade lmao. Coming out was one of the hardest things ive ever done because my family is VERY religious, half of my family is black and baptiste christian from the south snd the other half are v catholic latinos. I cant tell you how your family and friends are going to react, some are more accepting than others and truth be told you might lose some people, but dont lose yourself in that process.

Coming out and exploring your sexuality is a scary thing. You’re gonna face judgement but honestly fuck those people, even if theyre your family, if they judge you or have negative reactions when you do choose to come out then they can go suck a fat one. Dont let other peoples emotions and feelings and judgments negatively impact how you feel about yourself because youre “different” aka you dont follow the heteronormative standards in society.

I lost best friends and family members coming out and honestly looking back im glad I did, it proved they werent meant to be in my life. I don’t have the healthiest relationship with my father because I’m gay and also bc i have daddy issues but thats a whole different topic, and my mom is barely coming around to fully accepting me, but when you do come out just give your parents time, if they dont accept you then fuck them.

*ahem* Blood is thicker than water but the blood lf the covenant is thicker thsn the water of the womb, meaning family isnt defined by blood and if theyre uncomfortable or ashamed to have a lgbtq+ kid then they can kiss my ass and yours. The knot in your chest isnt gonna go away over night, mine was there for YEARS, but dont feel rushed or feel like you HAVE to know your exact sexuality, its a growing and learning process. Just know that you’re loved, and you have a community of people who will accept you with open arms.

[gardenstateofmind]

also most latinos are conservative, so like one of the most major groups being targeted by the current anti-immigration policies would never have voted for clinton lmfao

trust me when i say that A LOT of (cishet) brown people would rather be deported than accept gay marriage

in fact, a lot of them believe that any of the misfortunes occuring to them are because it’s our well deserved punishment for abandoning god lmfao like get a fucking grip

i say this as someone who comes from a catholic mexican and muslim jordanian immigrant family. it’s completely anecdotal, im not trying to apply this widely, but mmm my experiences are still more relevant than random gringos opinions

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This is my capstone poster project which represents who I am. I Choose to do intersectionality, symbolism, and Alterity as my concepts. The first image is a LGBTQ flag with a disability sign that represents me being apart of the LGBTQ community who identifies as a gay man and as well as being part of the disabled community. The second image is of a butterfly is me being latino thats a part of the dreamers. I came to this country at very young age my parents wanted a better life for me and they wanted me to grow up in a safe environment because I was born with a disability and they did’t want to see me suffer. The third image is virgin Mary which represents my religion as a catholic/Christian and the 4th image is where I was born Which is Guatemala. The quetzal is a bird which is on the Guatemalan flag and is also Guatemalas currency and it has the date of independence written in Spanish on it.

I just choose images that represent who I am and that also intertwine with my concept of symbolism. It was fairly easy I knew I was part of the LGBTQ, Latino/ dreamers, I was disabled, and also believed in god. I choose this median because it was simple and easy. I wanted to show images that represented me.

I choose intersectionality because as we all know it is someone who identifies or belongs into overlapping groups that faces discrimination or oppression and faces many disadvantages in society. I have had challenges along the way as a disabled child many of my peers saw me as different and I was prone to bullies but because of it I developed tough skin. I was raised in a christian latinx home and being gay male is something that is very hard for parents/ families to accept and they usually don’t because of what latino men have been taught, that men are supposed to be machismo or tough and being gay is looked down upon especially with catholic or christian latinx families. Also i’m part of the dreamer community and i’m limited to do things In the U.S I don’t have access to many resources like everyone does and latinos face discrimination in the U.S.

My Second concept is symbolism. Symbolism is using art or an object or a word to represent an abstract idea or give meaning. The second image I specifically choose a butterfly with dreamers. To me that represents freedom, growth, and hope for my future. I Wanna grow as a human and have hope one day that i’d be free. The Quetzal bird represents ME my blood or my heritage being indigenous Guatemalan since the bird is indigenous to central America. It also to me represents strength ive gone through some things but because of it I developed strength.

Alterity Is the state of being different or other. I am unique i’m different than everyone else i’m me. Im gay disabled latino male and a dreamer. If everyone was just like me i’d be normal. Being different is okay and there are people out there just like me. Wish we could tell kids that being different is okay in schools more frequently or often so they don’t have to hide or be afraid as they get older.

Alex Matias.