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thisselflovecamebacktome · 9 days ago

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So I’m stealing this from @tayloralisonswift and you should definitely check out their version, but I’m going to listen to and rank all of Taylor’s songs album by album (and then maybe her non album songs at the end). You can also see my debut rankings and what I’ve changed here + my Fearless, Speak Now, RED, 1989, Reputation, Lover, Folklore, Evermore and Midnights rankings here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here.

So with that in mind, it’s The Tortured Poets Department: The Anthology's turn. As per usual, I’ll put a content warning here and say that I mention mental struggles (including addiction and suicidality), age gap relationships, family issues, domestic violence and infidelity. So read at your own discretion. I also want to mention that one of the main reasons I decided to do this ranking is because I had a long post I wanted to make about this album that I will be condensing down for this. So yeah while it definitely won't be as long as that post, I do expect this to be the longest of the posts by far lmao.

Opening statement: So one of the reasons I wanted to make the long post about TTPD:TA is because it feels like the paradoxical album for me. Something that should have related heavily with me and been my thing entirely, and yet wasn't. I want to make a note now that a big reason it took so long was that I feel I couldn't express why I see TTPD:TA like I do without talking about my own experiences, which I've cut down on completely out of respect for privacy for people both currently and historically in my life. I note this because some of this post may be vague to try find a balance of those two things and I want you to know that you are not dumb if it feels that way to you. Also, the anon that one of my mutuals got saying regarding this album being about someone who did it shorter, someone who did it longer and someone else who did it first really hit for my relationship to the album, so I guess keep that in mind.

Fortnight: A few years ago, right after coming out of my own long term relationship (a note that he is not any of the 'Mr did it shorter/longer/first'), I had the opportunity to be the 'Matty' of a situation (obviously without the discriminatory and fame side of things) with someone I truly liked; more than I would like to admit (Mr 'did it shorter'). I chose not to, but the 'Taylor' of the situation did not make it easy (neither did the 'Joe', but you can kinda understand that more even if they were lashing out at the wrong person). As time went on, our kids became close friends (this is important, like just as not having kids is important to Taylor's version of TTPD:TA, having them is the key component for me. And yet, this is the closest thing to a direct song this person got on this album for me; and even then, while I do think the overall vibe really does encapsulate how it feels to be pursued by someone you like who is taken, Fortnight very much does feel like my "This could be us, but in order for it to be, I would have had to be a different person" song. Like I've often described TTPD:TA as an album that an alternative universe version of me would relate to heavily, and I think this song really is the best encapsulation of that. Like maybe if 'Mr did it longer' and I had never met or if we didn't have the kids or some other thing was different, I would have jumped in; but I didn't. And perhaps only having one song relate directly to this person is fitting given the nature of Taylor/Matty and the song being based on a (relatively) short amount of time, but still.

Outside of myself, I love the music video visually but wish it wasn't the first one. I feel by having it be the first thing most fans see about the album, it makes the asylum imagery (which I will talk about my feelings on later in this post) feel kinda hollow. I understand why she would not have wanted to do what I am about to say given the likeness to previous singles, but in my mind, having Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me be the first music video for the era followed by I Can Do It With A Broken Heart (same video we got), the title track, I Hate It Here, Fortnight (same video as we got) and finally Down Bad really would have given it a chance to tell a fuller story. I also wish it wasn't the track Post Malone featured on because I feel he's kinda wasted on it and I hope they collaborate again (preferably on a more upbeat song) and he's more present on it. I do love how the song directly ties into Hits Different in a way that is subtle enough that you don't have to know that to enjoy the song but it is a extra moment for those who do.

Finally, this song is literally Good Luck Babe's sequel from the other person's pov to me.

All up, it's not a favourite, but I completely understand why it's the opener. 6/10.

The Tortured Poets Department: I promise I don't have as much to say about all of these tracks as I did Fortnight, and this is one of the songs I have less to say about. While the general 'thinking we're sadder than we are' vibe reminds me of my Mr 'did it longer', the anxiety, insecurity and overseriousness that leads to destruction of myself and my relationships feels very resonant of myself in my early 20s as I battled with realising all that propping up I received as a kid really didn't mean much materially. I've also spoken with friends historically about how my experiences with Mr 'did it longer' really feel like they translated in me in a way that while I was seeking to recover, looking back, I think part of me had given up and thought that there would always be some level of sadness, anxiety or so on and so in that way both of the ways I related to the song intertwined.

Ultimately, I like the song and I'm a little surprised at how hated it seems to be on this site specifically given how many people call themselves former gifted children and are open with their depression. Like to me, this song is about someone who was propped up or for whatever other reason thought that they were going to be much more “successful” (read that in the capitalist definition type way) but it hasn't happened for them yet and so now they're in their head. 7/10.

My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys: We have reached what I called the first 'teenage petulance' song of the album. One of the most.... interesting I guess things that I have heard people who defend this album say in its defence is that those who don't like it just aren't old or mature enough for it. And to me that's very conflictory with my own opinion because to be honest, I think 15 – 17 year old me would have resonated with this album far more with it than 28 (now 29) year old me did upon hearing it. And this song is one of the first examples of why. To me it comes off as every 'I can fix him' teenage girl's wet dream before she inevitably gets traumatised by the situation. Needless to say at this point, but if you are in any relationship, romantic or not, like this, leave and never look back. Like the only time in my life I could even think of relating this song to was when I was in an abusive friendship that I felt at the time was penance for a past situation with a different friend. 4/10.

Down Bad: This is one of those songs that I like the fan interaction around more than I like the song itself. Like I know this is an unpopular opinion, but for as much as people in my life assumed that I would relate this song to either Mr 'did it shorter' or Mr 'did it longer', this song has never clicked for me and I don't really understand the hype around it. In saying that, given it was such a fan favourite, and as I said, I think could be a really good closing single for this era, I do hope it gets a music video at some point.

I will also say that the first time I heard this song, I thought she said 'did you really beaT me up in a cloud of sparkling dust?' and full of dissociated thinking that she had just admitted that the other person got high and committed domestic violence against her. It took me being like “why the fuck is no one else talking about this? This feels like the biggest bombshell she's ever said???” and looking it up to be reminded that I have bad hearing. It also did not help that the first thing I heard when coming back through was the final 'I'm having his baby' in But Daddy I Love Him.

As for the fan interactions, I've seen a lot of people relate this song to past queer and interracial relationships they've had and while this song is still low ranked for me, I have a new appreciation for it after hearing those views. 5/10.

So Long London: My favourite song from the project. It genuinely makes me very sad that this song was slammed as the 'Taylor left Joe due to his mental illness' song because it's moreso a 'your mental illness does not give you the right to be a dick to others and expect them to stay at your level forever' meets 'you can't save someone if you're drowning too' song and the codependence that comes with those two things clashing (when Taylor talks about mutual self harm in the prologue, I think of this song, not the Matty ones because I question if it was mutual on Matty's end). Like I know there's nuances of her wealth and other factors in this comparison, but from my first listen, I immediately thought about my anti recovery ptsd/bipolar (before you @ me saying this sounds mean, I say this as someone who has only recently been deemed as 'recovered' from these two illnesses too. It is said with all the love in the world) ridden mother who I am a carer for but who also sees my recovery as betrayal to this day. And having that pressure of feeling like you're the difference of if this person lives or dies (Because tbh, to me, when Taylor said she's not sure if he wants to be there, I didn't take it as the relationship, I took it as life itself. And that mixed with the suicide baiting line from the title track really encapsulates this song for me) is a lot for anyone. I will quickly note here before anyone starts worrying that things with my mum are better now, like not fully recovered, but I definitely think more of 2015 - 2018 in relation to this song. But anyway, 'Taylor left out of a lack of love' is such a cold take because the truth is she stayed so long because of love and I can say with 99.9...% certainty that leaving was not a decision Taylor would have taken lightly, and I will die on that hill for the rest of my days. 10/10.

But Daddy I Love Him: My least favourite track from the album. And no, before you make assumptions, it's got nothing to do with Matty, the vipers lyrics (though I do think that's weird to add given her history with being called a snake, especially aimed at the people who defended her against that), that it took the place of genuinely loving fan songs on tour (I genuinely think she put it on the setlist because it was/she thought it would be a fan favourite) or even that it's the first mention of fans on the album. Because if I'm honest, I don't even see this as the 'fuck my fans' song that it's made out to be. Like if anything, this song is a self admitted hissyfit and again something I would have to go back into my teen years to relate to lmao. The 'fuck my fans' song does exist on this album though, but it's further down the track so we will talk about it then. I feel like now is probably also a good time to mention that I am a 'this song started about Matty but was reworked to have aspects of Travis in it; especially the latter end of the song' truther. The reason I don't like this song honestly just comes down to it feeling like a wordier and less catchy version of Love Story to me. And I've been told that it feels different to that if you grew up in a small Christian conservative town. But at the end of the day, as much as I joke about my city feeling like it's one step away from being a small town given everyone knows everyone and there are a bunch of towns/nature around us, I grew up in a left leaning, equally as agnostic/atheist as religious city. If I move out of here, I only have one other place in mind and it is a bigger city that is also left leaning and less religious than these places people have spoken about. The whole conservative small town thing is likely never going to be my reality to relate it to. So yeah, ultimately it literally is just the case that any time But Daddy I Love Him comes on, I remember we only have so many hours of the day and I could be listening to Love Story if I want that vibe, so do so lmao. 3/10.

Fresh Out The Slammer: This is another song that I like fan (or in this case, my loved one's) interpretation of more than the song itself. It's also a song that I am glad I heard after So Long London, because quite frankly, the way that a lot of you see So Long London as the 'Taylor is a bitch for leaving someone with depression' song, that is how I probably would have seen this song had I not had the context of So Long London (and I guess You're Losing Me if we're talking more broadly within Taylor's discography).

I feel the need to say here that I resent the fiction this fandom has made that Joe forced Taylor to stay inside and avoid the media. Those of you saying that either are new or don't remember that at the time they met, it was Taylor who did not want to be around the media. Joe may have agreed or may have simply just gone along with it and ended up liking that path, we don't know. But I think it's a good reminder that it was actually Taylor who ultimately changed her mind on how much exposure she wanted. And that's not to bag Taylor, like she has every right to that. But it is a major change and for a fandom who seems to understand that the 'asylum [Taylor] was raised in' is the media and how much damage that did to her and how she struggled with it, it is kinda fucked up that the same grace is not given to him. That also goes with him talking about what happened between them; especially because quite frankly, he has been a hell of a lot nicer about it than most would.

Anyway, time for the positive with this song. As I mentioned above, a loved one of mine recently came to me with how they relate to this song and it's changed it completely for me. In short, this person has recently gone through rehab and relates the song to addiction with all of the 'he' mentions being the addiction/himself before recovery, the 'I' mentions of course being them now and the 'you' mentions being their loved ones. It was incredibly heartwarming to hear. It's not a favourite, but has grown from being a near least favourite due to that. 6/10.

Florida: This is one of those songs that is objectively better than my ranking in my honest opinion. Like I think it's the best summary of everything this album is trying to say, it's lyrics and production are great and just overall a good song. But something about it just did not click with me on the same level as other songs I love on this project. Like it's still strongly in the top half of my ranking, but it's not a song I'd say I stan or anything. Also, if I'm honest, I kind of wish it was a Florence And The Machine song because I like her voice on it better than Taylor's. 7.5/10.

Guilty As Sin: Maybe because I just don't relate to it at all (not that sexual of a person, especially in that way, sorry), but for me, this is one of those songs that I think of when people say you need to listen to all of Taylor's discography in order to fully appreciate if you listen to music through the lens of what it means to the artist. I say this because my favourite aspect of this song is 'am I allowed to cry' and how it relates to The Great War; specifically 'I vowed not to cry anymore if we survive the great war'. Guilty As Sin serves as a unclear space of time on whether the current relationship is over because it both is and isn't. Like realistically if you're masturbating to someone else in your monogamous long term relationship, it's over. But at the same time, technically you are still together and it can be saved. So have they survived? Can they? It's unclear in that moment and from an artistic point of view I love that connection because it's so interesting to me.

I'm nosy, so I do have to wonder if she ever told Joe though, given he mentioned that he had previously asked if Matty was just a friend and part of his (understandable) pain was that Taylor had said yes just to leave him for Matty. So had this come up? Or was it just vibes? It's not our business and we will never know, but yeah, like I do wonder if she fessed up as a final attempt to fix the relationship.

Either way, the song ranks relatively low for me. 6/10.

Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me: To start off, I just want to say that I was told about the 'asylum' line at the time of the leak, and as a result (given I am a person who has previously spent time in a mental hospital), decided to listen to the leak of the standard album + The Black Dog (before you @ me had already planned to buy the album and do not stream music of albums I buy, so me listening to the album early was not taking money away from Taylor). And ultimately I'm glad I did. Because from the minute I heard the asylum line, I knew this fandom and the broader audience would not be normal about it and was able to make the choice not to be online/scrolling for this release. I do want to make a note here that Taylornation being so horrific about this line over the months has genuinely been upsetting for me and many others, especially because I think while we correctly identified that the fandom and general public would not be normal about the line, we weren't expecting them to act the same. As such I hope that this is something Taylor/her team talks about with them in the future to at very least prevent it from happening again. And though I don't have faith in it, I hope that one day the fandom will listen to those of us saying that Taylor saying something about herself and her mental state is not an open door for inappropriate jokes.

As for the song itself, this song is the best/most relatable representation of mania I've heard in a song before. While I do think this song is somewhat of a whack at her fans, I feel like it's broader than this in that it's about everyone (but not Olivia Rodrigo given some of you seem very obsessed with a feud that was fan made) and predominately about the media. But it all comes from mania. Like I know there were debates about whether the prologue of this album was meant to be a defence drawn up like an insanity plea (something people see as 'getting off easy' despite the 1% of people who successfully do it often ending up in worse positions than prison) or legitimate retelling, and while I think there's room for nuance in the conversation, this song has convinced me that it was genuine mania. Like I do think Taylor felt all of that in the moment due to the mania, but I do not think she goes around every day thinking everything is about her or that she (or at least she alone) paved the path for people to attack her or whatever else in the song. Nor do I think this song would have existed if she was healthier at the time. And before you @ me over this, a reminder that I say this as someone with a history of bipolar and it is not an attack on Taylor. It is hard to explain to people who have not faced emotional highs of mania or even emotional lows of depression, but for better or worse, our emotions and circumstances do dictate our actions a lot of the times, and this is an example of that for me.

On another note, this song has somewhat been ruined for me because I saw a tiktok based on Gideon from Gravity Falls with it as the background music and now I laugh whenever the song comes on.

Overall though, it is a top 3 song from this project for me. 9/10.

I Can Fix Him No Really I Can: Another 'teenage petulance' song. Like I really don't have much to say about this song at all past I wouldn't be surprised if it was used for a bunch of like fanfics and videos for other fandoms and that 16 year old me would have loved this song and related it to the same abusive friend I mentioned in MBOBHFT. I will give her that the way she says 'Good boy, that's right' is very attractive lmao. But yeah overall definitely low ranked. 4/10.

Loml: So remember when I said I relate heavily to the whole 'Mr did it longer/shorter/first' mentality of this album? Well it's time to officially introduce 'Mr did it first'. I call him dad and we haven't spoken in years. Surprise! This is now a daddy issues album. I won't go into a whole run down of what happened, but the tldr that you need to know is that I went from my father's favourite child, to a weird on/off again period where he only called when it benefited him (despite calling my siblings including the one he was estranged with at first consistently) to a fallout due to him deliberately causing a wedge between my mother and I reuniting with said estranged sibling (yes, this ties back into how my mother feels re: what I said about So Long London) and all of my extended family (he admitted it was to get back at us, this is not an assumption). Because of this, I am very attached about this being just as much about Matty as Joe and feel off when people try to deny that. Because like Matty is the loss of Taylor's life not because he was the love of her life, but because of what his actions cost her (her life with Joe, her respect from a lot of fans, her self respect, aspects of her mental health etc etc etc). Anyway I love this song. It's so beautiful and haunting and definitely something I will listen to long term. 8.5/10.

I Can Do It With A Broken Heart: Now you may think that me having a long term relationship then... whatever came after with Mr 'did it shorter' fall apart within months would make this a song about that for me. But alas, you'd be wrong. The fact that within 24 hours of this album coming out, I got an anon that said “damn, 2018 you would have loved [this song]” is really all you need to know about it. I never answered that anon because I had no response to it, but anon if you are reading this, you're right. This is very much my “getting through law school after losing my dad/family while also being a step parent and carer" song. Like I very much love and relate everything in this song from the pushing through/overworking to deal with your problems to the denial that everyone ever is seeing how fucked up you feel. In saying all of that, I'm glad we have this song now, when I have more compassion and empathy for that version of myself.

Outside of myself, I just genuinely love this song. I understand why people are uncomfortable about the “more” line, but I'll be real, if Taylor was that worried, I really don't think she would have added it to the setlist (especially a setlist where she could have easily shortened it to not include that line), let alone made it the tour music video. On the note of the music video though, the golden outfit from it is the best version of that outfit lmao. Overall just a very fun, sad and relatable song. 9/10.

The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived: I recently heard of a child who said this reminds them of their dad, and I want to hug that child and tell them it's okay and that they will get their happy ending even if he's not part of it because I feel the same but got my happy ending. I don't have much else to say about the song past it being one of my favourites from the album and that unfortunately as someone with historic substance abuse issues, the ghosting drug supplier line is incredibly funny to me. 9.5/10.

The Alchemy: I'm sorry, this song is just very boring to me. 4/10.

Clara Bow: Again, this song is super boring to me and by far my least favourite out of her songs about fame which is super unfortunate because I feel like the cycle of public abuse/propping up celebrities just to tear them down when the new thing comes along is a very interesting topic, but yeah this just doesn't hit for me. 4/10.

The Black Dog: So I loved this song from the start, but I listened to it on my estranged (younger) sister's birthday and realised that yeah, this reminds me of my dad and her. Definitely one of my most listened to tracks from the album. 9/10.

Imgonnagetyouback: Okay so listen, I hate comparing similar themed songs from different artists because like no one owns a theme right. But at the same time, I don't think this song coming out so close to Olivia's (which I love a lot more) did it any favours. And that's a shame because as much as this is a 'teenage petulance' song, I think much like ICDIWABH, it's fun/deliberate about it, but yeah just another case of 'I can just listen to this other song I like more for the same vibe' like how I feel with songs like Anti Hero and BDILH ngl. 5/10.

The Albatross: This is actually a song that's grown on me a lot since the release. Like I used to find it boring, but after a conversation with 'Mr did it shorter''s daughter where she told me she relates the song to me and the ways I helped her through the heartbreak and mess of what happened between me and her father (and the fallout it had for her family), I really saw this song and the album in a new light in terms of like why I feel like having kids involved is so impactful for me in regards to my relationship with this album. 8/10.

Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus: 'You needed me but you needed drugs more' coming out while I was in the midst of almost losing someone to addiction did numbers on me. Thankfully, as mentioned above, that person got help, and funnily enough, I don't relate the rest of the song to them. Instead it was about a friend breakup, which you know, sounds normal and unrelated to how I relate to the rest of this album until you take into consideration that my mum used to hate this friend because she saw him as just like my father... Anyway, I truly do love this song and had my Eras show been post TTPD:TA's release, it'd be near the top of my surprise song wants. 8.5/10.

How Did It End: I feel awful for saying this song is boring to me because I think it is filled with emotion and 'look who we ran into at the shops, walking in circles like she was lost' would have taken 2018 me by the throat out of relatability, but the song just never clicked for me. Also, this is the 'fuck my fans' song in my honest opinion. Like it may not be as stark as BDILH or WAOLOM but it is a whacking and one that does not feel as aimed at the world at whole/people who don't care about her in the way fans do. Either way, it's a beautiful, haunting, objectively good song; just not for me. 6.5/10.

So High School: I like that this song sounds like the time period from when Taylor was in high school and I think younger me would have liked it as a whole more, but I'm just not drawn to it. 5/10.

I Hate It Here: This is a song that really dropped off for me as I continued to recover at the rapid rates I have this year ngl. Like I have a lot of sympathy/empathy for anyone in that mind frame, but it's just not where I am anymore and the song really lost its shine for me when it lost its relatability. 4/10.

Thank You Aimee: Love and relate to the the mentality of turning something shitty into something great and being proud of the way you handled the shittiness, even to the point of being able to recognise that it was for the best that shitty thing happened. It's also cute that it's the most 'debut' sounding song and brought back 'secret' messages. However, the song in general is just not for me. 5/10.

I Look In People's Windows: I'm sorry, I know it's a fan favourite but simply find this song boring. 4/10.

The Prophecy: Oh 2018 me would have cried her little heart out to this after losing our family (not to mention 'Mr did it longer' and the Chloe et al friend). The final 'please' is my favourite production choice of this album. On that note, Taylor singing this song mashed with This Love, my ultimate self love song on Eras Tour, was such a moment for me especially! Like yes, this self love changed The Prophecy and led me to get to my happiest (so far). Overall a great song. 8.5/10.

Cassandra: Closure's sister song (to me). Not a favourite, but highly relatable to how I feel about my family, something I think younger me would have liked more and a good song overall. 6.5/10.

Peter: Top 5 song of this album for real. I love it and heavily relate it to the Chloe et al friend and have done so from the first listen. 9/10.

The Bolter: This is not a favourite of mine, but having recently made a playlist I really love revolved around it definitely brought it up a bit from finding it uninteresting to decent. 6/10.

Robin: The centrepiece of why I do not relate to this album (in my opinion) and what happened with 'Mr did it shorter' for me. I find it incredibly funny but also a testament to Taylor's writing that this song is so impactful for me and how I relate to this album despite the reason for that being so different than what she actually wrote it about. Because ultimately 'Mr did it shorter' and I did not go down that road and we held off on expressing how we felt because of the kids. We stayed civil with each other despite all of the hurt on both ends because of the kids. And, when him and his partner decided that they wanted to give it another go, I cut him off and allowed my stepfather's daughter to deal with all interactions with him for the kids. Like it was all in sweetness. And maybe it was too late by then, the damage of his actions and the rumours had done their dash, but I would have done it the same way over and over again and am glad that he eventually got to the same page. It has been so incredible to not only been able to see my stepdaughter grow and trust me fully through this process, but to be able to see his kids through it too. Like idk, I'm just rambling at this point, but I feel so much gratitude and pride for how I and the kids dealt with this all when I hear this song and it will always hold a special place in my heart because of that. 9/10.

The Manuscript: And one final song for 'Mr did it longer'. I'm never going to say that I am thankful for the damage he did to me, but much like Thank You Aimee, this song really sets it in stone for me that that experience 16 - 22 year old me had with him really determined the outcome and personality of my adult life (both in good and bad ways), especially the impact I want to have on the next generation. Like going back to what I said in Fortnight, I think things would have been very different and I would have been a lot more naive re: 'Mr did it shorter' had I not had that experience (and obviously the experience with 'Mr did it longer' and the Peter/Chloe et al friend was impacted by my dad, just in a lot less linear way at the time) and whether it's 'Mr did it shorter's' kids, my stepdaughter, the 'lovers who stayed my age' or any other children in my life currently, historically or in the future, I will always value the growth I had through that experience that has led me to being able to help others. All up, this is just the perfect closer for the album (being a RED girlie just made it all the sweeter lmao) and a great song. 9/10.

Final score: 202.5/310 - 66.3%

#taylor swift #and with that I just have the non album songs to do later and we'll have a full ranking lmao

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wilmonsfolklore · 9 months ago

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People I want to get to know better

Thank you to the sweet @bigalockwood and @sillylittleflower the tags!! I'm like a week late with my answer, sorry! :)

Last song: hoax by Taylor Swift because i was listening to folklore absolutely breathtaking song and favorite album of all time

Favorite color: I've been in a lila mood lately idk why

Last film/show: I just finished the movie Migration, an animated film about a family of ducks in the US that migrate to Jamaica. it's kinda Zootopia / Zambezia vibes and it's extremely cute and funny and I definitely would recommend

Sweet/savory/spicy: savory allll the way!!!

Relationship status: single!!

Current obsession: ive been binging The Great British Bake Off, which is just lovely!!!

Last thing I googled: "what brand of non-alcoholic beer do people drink in sweden" for fic research. I didn't end up finding a conclusive answer so I settled on not specifying the brand lmao

Last book: I recently read People we meet on Vacation by Emily Henry. it's friends to lovers which is usually my jam, but i honestly felt like they were better off as friends

Looking forward to: getting better from the cold I've been having for like two weeks!! healing from my wisdom teeth removal!! finishing up a fic I've been writing!! young royals season 3!!!!!

For the tags: since I'm so late I think pretty much everyone has already done this but if you're reading this and you haven't of course feel free to do it anyway!!! I've loved reading everyone's answers to these

#this is so late but thats okay #about me #ask

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lcndonboysstuff · 8 months ago

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She's thriving in all areas of her life. In time, I hope the same for Joe.❤️

lmao I can’t see Joe ever thriving. Not with the Swifties (and Taylor) on his ass forever if her other exes are any indication, an album that is going to have non-Swifties screaming “fuck Joe Alwyn” a la Jake with ATW, future relationships that will more than likely be severely tested with harassment, death threats, and comparisons to TS, and a career that is inevitably as a C/D list actor that will have 4th or 5th or 6th billing in indie movies. And unfortunately, he doesn’t have a personality that is built to overcome any of that unless there is a side of him that we have not seen. Sorry, I know it’s negative but whether it’s in May or next year or 5 years from now, imo nobody is ever going to say Joe Alwyn is thriving.

jake is a very successful actor and Red hasn’t impacted his career majorly at all? and it was just a few years ago people were in a stadium in taylor’s own hometown chanting “fuck taylor swift” it doesn’t really mean much.

Jacob Elordi has tomdaya fans making up lies about him cheating every single day and he’s fine. sometimes i think you guys overestimate the impact fans have ngl.

also joe’s level of thriving is never going to be on taylor’s level so if you look it that way he’s never going to be “thriving”

2018 was a very good year for him and i think 2022 was too (he just needed SAN to be better than it was) and i think 2024 has the potential to surpass both of those years🤷🏾‍♀️

#anon

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the1975attheirverybest · 1 year ago

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Oooh give us your thoughts on the New Yorker article if you're up to it?

Sure! I mean, I’m not sure I have anything original to say. Just that I didn’t like it that much. I guess it was as good as it could possibly be when written by someone who doesn’t seem to know much about Matty. I mean, I commend the author she did her research and seems to even have interviewed some of the crew. It wasn’t lazy journalism or anything. She just didn’t seem to get why Matty does what he does, and as a result, whenever she’d be quoting him, he’d come off as pretentious.

I know, I know. We joke in the fandom that he’s the most pretentious guy ever. But he’s really not. He’s very down-to-earth and humble and doesn’t take himself too seriously. I think people fail to see that. (By people I mean non-fans) like she did a lot of work to “contextualize him.” Talking about the George Floyd thing and him quitting Twitter, his memes on Instagram described as “makes fun of himself as well as his own fans.” Or whatever it was that she said. But….the more information she gave to try and give people more context, the more ridiculous it all sounded. What’s that thing she said about him silencing himself to make room for women or whatever cuz he put Greta on Notes? Do you see what I’m saying? I REALLY doubt that Marty was sitting there thinking “it is time for me, a man, to stfu so that a woman, Greta, may speak.” That sounds pompous. It happened a lot more organically than that. He was thinking about topical stuff. Struck my the environment discourse, Greta happened to the voice of the moment, he had this thing about releasing singles so that they are relevant, not in 6 months time when the record would be sent off for Vinyl because the news cycle changes so fast, it needed to be about what’s happening NOW. And it was Greta. Simple as that. Like it was the album ethos that affected his choice. It’s just that he’s usually irreverent and gets ticked off by outdated societal attitudes so it shows in his work and personality. But he’s not like deliberately being woke to make a point. So when she says he’s uncomfortable with fans praising his morality….but the article is doing exactly that. Do you see what I mean by she doesn’t get it?

The thing about Matty is, though he might deliver certain lines, jokes, or statements with a straight face, he’s not a serious guy. Like he doesn’t take himself seriously. That’s I guess why he comes off as a “troll.” He’s the sort of person that you have to tilt your head a tiny bit in order to see him clearly. And….she’s not tilting her head when writing about him. So, she captures SOME of his traits, but it’s foggy and out of context and comes off as kind of….I don’t know what the verbal equivalence of guy in black and white French movie sipping a coffee outside a cafe and twirling his thin mustache. You know what I mean? Makes him seem too overly philosophical when the first line in the article says that he hates the idea of artists being liberal academics.

And I don’t know who commissioned the article: whether it was jamie/dirty hit. Or The New Yorker approaching Matty, or as the swifties claimed “Taylor’s team wanting good press for him.” But if the goal of it was to introduce him to a wider public than his fans who already know him, then that’s not a great image of him. Makes me seem like the kinda guy you meet in your first year philosophy seminar. Also i don’t know that the New Yorkers subscribers are the target audience of the 1975 haha. I say that as a former subscriber myself. Keyword: FORMER.

IRONY! That’s the word I’m looking for!!! Matty is a pretty ironic guy, and The New Yorker takes itself

Too seriously to have fun and play with irony. That’s it!

Coulda just said those two sentences lmao. Anyways yeah. I hope this makes any sense???

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When Taylor made blank space and shake it off and bad blood singles, it made so much sense to me. Wildest dreams a little iffy, but I could see it. Some of my friends said it was their favorite. Then out of the woods I was like ???? Weird choice but okay. Then in college somehow who wasnt a swiftie said "in general I like Taylor Swift songs except for bad blood" and I was like "wow non swifties do not have taste!!!" I learned so many cursed takes when I made this blog

omg �� honestly blank space isn’t a bad song, it was just way too overplayed and now whenever i hear it i skip it for that reason. i occasionally listen to it but it just got played so so much. it was everywhere. but bad blood is just kinda a bad song in general tbh… but i got why ootw was picked as a single and i love ootw so much so that’s what threw me off about your ranking.

also the swiftie fandom in general has had some awful takes sometimes. i’m not immune to that (ivy used to be my least favorite taylor song, i still think willow is mid to this day, and reputation is not that good of an album) but man…. seeing your march madness and my eras bracket polls has really made me wonder how people have taste in the first place lmao.

#asks #imhereonthekitchenfloor

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hi!!! I’m not aware if the swiftologist aka zach has addressed the swastika photo incident specifically but he has an extensive catalogue of media both within his youtube channel and within his co-hosted podcast called “the evolution of a snake” so there is a good chance that he might have addressed it and I just didn’t see it because I haven’t watched or listened to every single thing he’s made

however if you’re looking for other non-specific incidents of taylor’s public relations team being messy as hell that zach has talked about, both part 1 & 2 of the podcast episodes “2016” have great examples from in between her 1989 tour and the reputation album release, and (if I remember correctly) zach at least briefly mentions her shitty statement about her horrendous Jet Usage in this video: https://youtu.be/ByLPshvBT7I?si=S2w551-OI8cLeNMu

this poor man is fighting for his life trying to explain to hardcore swifties why it’s bad that taylor swift is billionaire and an ecoterrorist lmao again I don’t always agree with everything he says but knowing how BRUTAL swifties can be, I think he deserves credit for that alone

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Hello @whyismangososour !

just saw you recommending a 'swiftologist', lmao, and was curious if you happen to know if this person's scholarly investigations have addressed Taylor's notorious swastika photo op and the resulting botched response(s) from her public relations team??

#pop culture #tw: taylor swift #lmao #idk how to tag this I usually try to avoid blogging about t swift #but the Academic and the nerd in me wins over everything else #Youtube #media studies

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briankang · 3 years ago

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skz, twice, got7!! :)

THE HOLY JYP TRINITY.........ok lets GO

skz

favorite member / bias line

i love....all of those boys so dearly....i've truly found it hard to settle on one over time but for simplicities sake i always say aussie line <33333 they were the first two to really capture my attention, and chan in particular is v special to me hehe

which member I’d fight (& why)

jisung. i think it'd be kinda funny bc i can't fight and i think he'd hurt me on accident but i would take him out for food after and we'd laugh

favorite song(s)

for you, my pace, get cool, god's menu (my moms fav), wow (danceracha version), the tortoise and the hare, domino, cheese, all in, maknae on top, up all night, fam, mixtape: oh, awkward silence, red lights, secret secret

favorite thing about the group

they're just. so genuinely sweet and genuinely care about each other and they're SO FUNNY (i always say they're my fav lil improv group) and they're just. earnest and kind and talented. i love them.

something i’d like to see from them

more songs written by non 3racha members!!!!!!! they're all so talented and i wanna hear what they all have to say hehe. also like. i wanna see one of them w/ pink hair. it'd be For Me. ALSO A PROPER TAYLOR SWIFT COVER MAYBE. that's personal though.

twice

favorite member / bias line

SANA...........my friend tori showed her to me before i even knew who twice was and she has never left my mind. i'm also a big jihyo and nayeon girl

which member I’d fight (& why)

i. i genuinely do not think i would fight a single member of twice. i think they could also kill me if need be. i want to join their forces instead.

favorite song(s)

LITERALLY. ANYTHING FROM THE TASTE OF LOVE EP but baby blue love and alcohol-free specifically, cheer up, what is love, like ooh-ahh, feel special, the feels

favorite thing about the group

how to say. i love women. they are pretty and funny and give me bops. what more can i ask for.

something i’d like to see from them

leave jyp <333333333333 LMAO

got7

favorite member / bias line

bambam my beloved...........he's always been a fav!!!!! i also love jaebeom and jackson a lot

which member I’d fight (& why)

jackson and i are squaring up in a parking lot and he better be ready because i WILL win and he will whine about it

favorite song(s)

teenager, thursday, just right (it was one of my first kpop songs hehe), girls girls girls, a, not by the moon

favorite thing about the group

they're literally the funniest bitches around. everyone always says "oh my group puts comedians out of business" no. it's got7 (and also seventeen but this aint about them). i've also admired just their bond as a group and creativity in their music and concepts and the way they're just. Some Guys who also make BANGERS

something i’d like to see from them

a goddamn album and for them to be together again i am properly suffering I MISS THEM

send me a kpop group and i'll answer!!!!!!!!

#asks #siyuan🦋#ambivartence #THIS ENDED UP SO LONG slkdgjlksd

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carpathxanridge · 9 months ago

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like it’s soooo rare for an artist to be THAT prolific and be putting out genuinely exciting, non-formulaic stuff! it’s like when lana came out with chemtrails less than 2 years after nfr and then blue banisters the same year. i could not even get THROUGH those albums forreal. by comparison nfr was a masterpiece and if she’d taken a bit more time before her next release i’m sure it would’ve been a better album. because like, some of the singles off those albums are listenable, just as as even as a non taylor swift fan i’ve found individual singles off of most of taylor’s albums to be enjoyable, but as a fan of an artist don’t you want to entire ALBUM to be really fucking good? like as a cohesive thing? also i forgot that other than midnights, taylor has been putting out re-releases of her older stuff too in the past two years, which may not have taken up any of her songwriting energy but was time in the studio nonetheless where she was focusing on a project that was NOT this one. like i don’t get yalllll i hate to rain on ur parades but i do not want a new taylor album yet because i just don’t think it can be all that good lmao

i just do not get swifties because if an artist i love announces they are putting out a new album less than two years after their last release, the duration of which they have been touring nonstop, i’d be like noooo too soooon take ur time become a hermit for a few years go on a hiatus and then when i’ve forgotten you exist come back with some carefully crafted beautiful masterpiece. like i’m always so annoyed when an artist releases something underdeveloped just because they obviously felt the need to keep churning shit out, how do u guys actually get excited at this point?

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All the reasons why Haylors are still a thing comes down to marketing.

1) Their actual relationship was very widely publicized. See: the Central Park pap walk.

2) Harry is her most famous ex and has legions of fangirls who would self-insert as Taylor

3) This is supposed to be her most recent former relationship that actually surfaces in the music

4) 1989 is her biggest album. He is tied to it

5) He was essentially marketed as ‘the one that got away’ (see: her interviews about the Style muse showing up at her wedding, that rumor about 1,989 roses, the story about I Wish You Would from the 1989 Secret Sessions, etc). They were also supposed to have been separated by outside forces (I Know Places, Wonderland, Out of the Woods), because their love for each other was great enough to forgive any mistake on either’s behalf (since their breakup was ‘no one’s fault’ according to 1989 marketing).

6) This is the only relationship fans got a rundown of. See: her 2013 Vanity Fair article

The thing is that literally all of this comes down to marketing lmao. Harry denied seemingly unfounded rumors and Taylor’s own official story in VF in the same exact way. In reality, I Know Places is supposed to be a ‘what if’ scenario with maybe some elements of an actual relationship, not a play by play of what happened. The I Wish You Would story makes no chronological sense. I Knew You Were Trouble makes no chronological sense to be about him, either, and she put a ship tattoo on the actor in the mv before Harry even got that tattoo. He wouldn’t have interrupted her wedding because he was eighteen years old. Sure, there are actual sightings of Haylor that lead me to believe they did date briefly, but the story she sold is canonically untrue according to Harry. There are reports of him hooking up with girls and guys alike throughout the his One Direction era.

The truth is that, even if Taylor and Harry alike have never had a single gay thought in their lives, Haylor was not what Taylor portrayed it to be. I’m sorry, guys.

I mean Harry is canonically bi at this point because he says he’s not baiting when he uses those colors BUT I don’t think Haylor was him closeting or anything.

And yes Taylor could be Kinsey -1 and ALL THE STUFF THIS ANON SAYS WOULD STILL BE TRUE.

Haylor is just.... bullshit. Sorry. Being caught up on it is akin to Lucas Till thinking cardigan is for him lmao in ludicrousity. Except neither Tay nor Harry are under illusions with this one tbh. It’s a dumb short largely non exclusive fling AT BEST that got repackaged as some bullshit.

People must make like Elsa and let it go.

#nat talks h@ylor

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So I’m stealing this from @tayloralisonswift and you should definitely check out their version, but I’m going to listen to and rank all of Taylor’s songs album by album (and then maybe her non album songs at the end). You can also see my debut rankings and what I’ve changed here + my Fearless, Speak Now, RED, 1989 + Reputation rankings here, here, here, here and here.

So with that in mind, it’s Lover’s turn. As per usual, I'll put a content warning here and say that I mention sexual violence, terminal illness, political conflict (usually I would not note this, but given the US election is this week and tensions are high all around the world, I will) and suicidality/mental struggles. They are just mentions, but read at your own discretion.

I Forgot That You Existed: From the first listen, this felt like such a sister song to Are You Fucking Kidding Me by Kate Miller-Heidke, and if you know me, you know I'm one of like 2 Kate stans on here, so that's a plus to me. I know she was going for an opposite vibe/closer to Reputation for this, but I feel like it's weak as a opening track, but a good song on its own. 7/10.

Cruel Summer: In hindsight it's interesting that the fandom clocked that Taylor was going back and writing about the start of the relationship even as early as their first listen to this song. That's not me being like "she was that miserable and deluding herself for years" because like no relationship is that simple, but it is interesting. I also want to note that I am team 'anti ME! and Cruel Summer should have been the opening single'. I'll get into why for ME! during its section but Cruel Summer was too close to Getaway Car production wise and as we discussed last time, Getaway Car was the final radio single for a lot of countries. Overall though, this is one of those songs that I like but feel like everyone treats as the second coming of Jesus when it's like middle of my ranking for this album lmao. I will say that I do like G Flip's cover more than the album version, so maybe I'm just not as big on the production. Either way the album version is a solid 8/10.

Lover: I'm sorry, I've always just found this song very cheesy and kinda boring. Potentially my least favourite of her romantic songs. In saying that, I do like the first dance remix and Niall and Fletcher's cover much more and mourn for what a good duet remix could have done for this song because the Shawn version is even worse than the album version for me. Anyway the album version is a 5/10.

The Man: If this song has no fans, I'm dead. I get that it is not the most in depth feminism media you will ever hear, but I don't need all of my media to be. Sometimes it's enough to have a fun time and say 'A man would not be treated like this'. Also, 'when everyone believes ya, what's that like?' as a sexual violence survivor always has me like !!! in the best way. It was also so fun to see a lot of casual fans go ham for it both at my shows and in the theatre. 7/10.

The Archer: Up until recently, this was the song I said was Taylor's most relatable to me. I'm healed past the point of saying/feeling that now, but it has a very warm place in my heart still. 9/10.

I Think He Knows: The lead single of this album in my heart. I think this would have done everything she was aiming for with ME! without the divisiveness. Overall I just love this song though and it just gets better the more healed I am. 9/10.

Miss Americana And The Heartbreak Prince: I feel like I do not listen to this song all that much which is a shame because I do like it and it's among my favourite production track on this album. I know this song is seen to fans as an allusion to the US 2016 election, but I feel it's universal in that when I first heard it, it felt very 2019 Australian politics (noting that obviously a lot of those battles are still happening, but I'm talking about first impressions of the song back in 2019). 7.5/10.

Paper Rings: This is another song that I feel like I should like more than I do tbh. Like it has all the elements I like and context aside (because the paper rings line feels kinda sad if I think of Taylor given what we know now), it is a good song; it just never caught my attention. 7/10.

Cornelia Street: My stan song! Not just for the album this time! Like this is my number 1 Taylor song full stop. Every time I listen to this song, I feel like I'm getting a piece of my soul back. I just feel so content and happy every time. If I were ever to make a top songs ever for me, this would definitely make it. Also I know the Paris version is the more popular version of this song in this fandom, but the production is part of why I love the album version that much more. 10/10.

Death By A Thousand Cuts: This is one of those songs that I don't vibe with the production that much and much prefer the tiny desk version, but I do love the lore that it was made based off of a movie that was inspired by 1989 and it is a good song so the album version gets 7/10.

London Boy: Sorry guys, I am not a pubwe fan. If I were to cut a song from this album, this would be it. 3/10.

Soon You'll Get Better: I understand that this is one of those songs that is too sad to rank for most people, but I do want to note that it's a top 2 song from this album for me and really has been a comfort during being a carer for my mum, especially during her more suicidal days. I've also had loved ones say similarly about past versions of me, both in regards to my own historic mental struggles and the period where my long covid was not diagnosed and we thought it may be something terminal. So yeah overall amazing song. 9.5/10.

False God: I don't have much to say about this song, I just really like it, which is kinda funny because I'm so anti 'use sex as a bridge to fix things'. But what can I say? A good song is a good song lmao. 8.5/10.

You Need To Calm Down: I know this song is controversial, but unironically I really like it. And if I'm honest, I feel like all of the controversy I saw was in online spaces with most offline members of the queer community I know appreciating the sentiment even if the song wasn't for them; especially given the work with the equality act that came along with it. But yeah, overall a bop. 7/10.

Afterglow: This is one of those songs where if it came out like a year before, I feel I would have loved it more out of relatability. But it did not, so I find it kinda boring ngl. I will say that the first first notes sounding just like Wicked Games by The Weeknd really has fuelled my 'please collaborate' mindset with them though (for those who don't know, The Weeknd is my favourite male artist). It also did lead me to sending an apology to someone I lashed out at the year before though so yeah, kinda funny in that way, but alas, still boring. 4/10.

ME!: God do I wish this song was not the lead single. I feel like it's the Stayx3 of the album where it works best within the the context of the album/as a companion piece with Afterglow, and it's sad that by the time I heard it in that context, I was already put off by it. In saying that, as much as I hated the spelling line, she should have not gotten rid of it (or at least gotten rid of it without replacing it with something else) because the sound sounds disjointed without it. I also find it kinda funny that it was pushed as a self love song because tbh I feel like outside of the obvious that it's talking about a relationship, it is one of the most anxiety/low self esteem ridden songs in her discography for me. 4/10.

It's Nice To Have A Friend: The first time I heard this, I felt it was weirdly placed and overall didn't like it. Then, two days after Lover came out, I laid on my bed with one of my loved ones and some camomile tea relistening (listening for the first time in their case) to this album and realised that shit, it truly is nice to have a friend. In the best way possible, I still think this is one of her most experimental and least 'Taylor' sounding songs and I would argue that that helped open the gates for Folklore. 9/10.

Daylight: One of my self love songs. A top 3 from this album and overall joy. I mentioned this during my RED ranking, but getting this mashed up with Come Back Be Here (a song I relate to someone who committed suicide) at one of my Eras shows meant the world to me and will forever be one of my favourite performances from her. 9.5/10.

All Of The Girls You Loved Before: Sorry, I am a CD listener, so I barely listen to this. Out of the two songs that leaked at the time, I much preferred Need (and still hope that it'll be a Reputation vault track), and this song just never really stood out to me at all. 5/10.

Final score: 136/190 - 71.6%.

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Hi Jen! It’s not something I relate to at all, but maybe you have some insight? There are groups of fans who find a lot of pleasure in their faves doing well chart/sale-wise. I do not give any of my fucks about how well someone I enjoy does with others. I’m curious as to why people love the measures of ‘success’. It also goes along with the fact that the same people often celebrate/make fun of others being ‘lesser’ than their fave. Do you get the psychology behind it?

U r so weird, I was literally just about to make a super salty tag post about this very subject, because YEAH, can’t relate, I am not paid to care about charts or positions or who’s tweeting about it or how much work I have to put in to making it happen or where Niall is v. Harry v. Louis or vice versa or et al., I wanna fling myself into the sun with how tedious it is. I do see inklings here and there from those who feel obliged to bring us along on a lower-level Sony employee’s quarterly report journey, but I think it varies by person…that said, here’s a mix of my observations, none of it organized too well and all of it one gal’s opinion:

The embarrassment of stanning a boyband member is very real, so the investment in how your fave overcomes this stigma in a tangible, chart-topping way is incredibly important in giving your involvement as a fan legitimacy past boyband land (related: the layers of misogyny and sexism in how you’re perceived as being a boyband fan vs. a fan of someone who has been deemed successful by a “non-teen”/male audience via solo chart success, oh, the essays I could write).

The previous point is especially hilarious around Harry in particular because, let’s face it, thanks to Taylor Swift, he was for a long time the most famous guy in the band to people like my mom, so on his way to the top of the charts as a solo artist, he still gets One D questions, and because One D is a joke to a lot of the “legitimate” music press, there’s this extra need on the solo stan side to prove that he’s more than that. And at the end of the day, you can tout how many people tweet they don’t know a D and love a Fine Line all you like, but Harry still got the reunion questions (just as they all do) multiple times today…in exchange for some extra press that’ll help boost him up the chart, oh, the cycle!

There’s also the psychological aspect of people wanting to back “a winner” that somehow morphs with the notion that only One Shall Emerge Successful from a boyband, so your fave being no. 1 above the rest of the band justifies your time spent being their fan, especially when you’re justifying it to someone IRL.

For a lot of the twitter crowd, this hella entertaining post directly lines up with a prevailing attitude, swap out any of the names.

For Louis’s fans, there’s the handwringer’s lament, the irrational fear that if he somehow doesn’t “make it”, he’ll never be allowed to record or tour again (which is ludicrous, given that none of them are struggling indie artists), so an incredible emphasis is placed on every single number possible; there’s also a lot of comparisons to Harry and Niall that don’t work in reality but do maintain a certain underdog stance.

I haven’t paid as much attention to what’s happening in Niall’s fanbase, other than it’s easier to compare Niall v. Harry because they’re on second albums and vying for Stevie Nicks’ hand, but the promo approach is interestingly similar? Yet fan reactions aren’t? Hmmm.

Zayn remains above the fray, his fans love him, he doesn’t worry about promo, he kills it…much to think about, but I haven’t unpacked it.

Overall, it’s fascinating from a psychological standpoint because on one hand you CAN compare all five of them to each other–they started in the exact same spot–but on the other, their paths have diverged wildly in the past five years, they’re at different points now, they have different audiences, different sounds, different goals, different resources, they’ve faced different setbacks and tragedies, they have different teams and bts arrangements, so many different moving parts. Where am I going with this, lmao? tl/dr, I find it real inchresting when solo fans bitch about what someone else in the D is doing vis-a-vis their fave when it says a lot more about their own status as fans than their perception of their fave’s “success.” That feels like the core psychology, but again, it’s a small sampling on purpose because I legit don’t care about numbers, my goddddd, nobody could pay me enough. (If you want to add your perspective in the replies, go for it…shitty anons will be deleted, we’re in a global pandemic, none of this actually matters, etc. etc.)

#i know i'm blanking on something big in terms of a hot take #my brain is fried #but yeah

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songsorter28 · 4 years ago

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Blackpink: The Album Review

Okay, this is the first time i’ve done this and the truth is i don’t know how, so i’ll just try my best.

First of all: I am a Jennie biased blink. That means I have no trustworthy sense of criticism when it comes to them and if you do, this is probably not the place for you. I will try to talk about this album with a sense of criticism, but sometimes, i’m just gonna like a song because it’s blackpink and y’all just gotta deal with it.

BUT, I am not afraid of saying i don’t like things that the pinks have said it to like, which is actually how i’m starting this review. So, if you guys are all about loving the girls and emotion and “think about how they must feel” this is a decision made by the girls, this place is also not for you either. I am a blink and i share a lot of love for those four women, but i am also a consumer of their work as artists. I will complain if I didn’t get something I thought was necessary as a viewer and listener for my money and attention to be spent. I will not, of course, hate on them in any way.

Ok, before anything:

1) English isn’t my first language, so I apologize for any mistakes. 2) Here, we’re gonna talk about the cover, pre-release single choices, writing credits, tracklist and my honest opinion about the album as a whole.

a) The Cover:

There’s not a lot to talk about but the fact that it’s gorgeous, but simple. I didn’t understand why a crown if the name was The Album (something unoriginal to be honest, but i’m not 100% against it) and there’s no reference to royalty throughtout the album besides maybe Jennie’s rap “didn’t want to be a princess”. I did find the cover visually pleasing tho, could be much more embarrasing.

b) Writing credits and Track List:

This one is quick. I’m extremely glad Jennie and Jisoo were credited as songwriters (Jennie as well as a composer) but Teddy gotta give Danny Chung to god. He hates rapper Jennie and he’s the reason Lisa doesn’t write. He’s always in charge of the raps so teddy gets confortable and Lisa doesn’t get a chance to write her own verses, which is something the sure thing cover showed us she can do. Also, he hates rapper Jennie to the point where she had to write her rap on the title track (wich is good, but, you know what i mean) and wasnt even given a chance to write more than 8 seconds. Melanie I hope this is the last time you were here. Loren you can stay. Tommy and Ryan yall were cute we had fun but it’s over let’s move one (seriously, these producers really made me appreciate Teddy more lmao pls sir never leave us). Okay that’s it. Now, to the track list.

I will be talking about the fact this shouldn’t even be called a full album on the My Honest Opinion About The Album As A Whole topic.

1. How You Like That

I say my opinion more detailed on the next topic but at at essence. Cute. A good opener to the album and what is to come, but too much of a bside to even be a pre release single.

6.5/10

2. Ice Cream

Again, my opinion it’s on the next topic. Cute song. Loved Chaennie’s high notes and wish i didn’t know english so the rap didnt sound that silly. Not as bad as blinks and non blinks make it out to be.

6.12/10

3. Pretty Savage

I kinda also talked about that in the next topic lmao. It has everything a blackpink song should have. There’s been some controversy about Lisa “born skinny bitch” but Lisa was talking about herself since she has been body shamed through her whole career. She was right and she should say it. You’re entitled to feel uncomfortable but that’s just the thing she wasn’t talking about me or you. She was taking her pain and wearing like an armor. This was a diss track for the haters. Taking that away from her because of our own issues it’s kinda mistreating hers.

8.82/10

4. Bet You Wanna

Yes you guessed it right I talk more about it next topic. It’s a bop. Loved Jennie here. She has such a versatile voice I was very proud to hear her. And Cardi was also good. Just hope Lisa will get her rap part live cause she didn’t have much lines here. But I loved Jenlisa’s brigde. Rosé’s adlibs peak perfection and Jisoo’s chorus and english that’s what i’m talking about. The chorus can be a little repetitive and it kinda ends a bit suddenly but it doesnt bother me much.

8.37/10

5. Lovesick Girls

WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THIS MASTERPIECE OTHER THAN BEST BLACKPINK TITLE TRACK? Love that for me. It was so different than anything they’ve done so far, the lyrics were AMAZING, the message behind it also, the visuals in the MV, storylinne, RAPPER JENNIE OMG, she got the most memorable line “didn’t want to be a princess, i’m priceless” i love her tf the shade to the yg princess title and her scene in the car and in the mental hospital(will not touch on the controversies cause that was annoying) also Lisa’s rap/singing with a flow in the begining her voice OMG I WAS SHOOKEDT. Jisoo’s high note in the brigde? Rosé?? perfect.

10/10

6. Crazy Over You

Rapper Jennie for the last time with a 8 second rap again but LET’S BE POSITIVE. A bop. I loved the i. went. crazy. over. you. I love the lyrics. It bother a bit this much english but it’s bp’s idendity so i’m fine with it.

8.5/10

7. Love To Hate Me

This was a predictable song in the best possible way. Easily one of their best songs. There’s honestly nothing left to say. Also. Lisa’s rap. Maybe Danny Chung deserves some points. It even felt like she was a feat in the song like her flow yall just perfection.

9.4/10

8. You Never Know.

Great song I left with depression.

I like how this album talks with haters and blinks, it really shows a different side from the pinks. Only a few know the emotion Jennie starting off “but you never know unless you walk in my shoes [...] cause everybody sees what they wanna see, it’s easier to jugde it than to believe”. It was written by Loren, a close friend from the girls and the boy who’s Jenlichaeng boyfriend in the LSG’s MV and Bekuh Boom, a producer who’s been with them for really long, but if anyone got a conspirancy theory that they were involved in the songwriting process of the song, sign me up. You don’t need proves. I believe you. ALSO JISOO GOT MOST LINE ON THIS ONE and we got singer Lisa. After a while, it become my favorite song from the album. Now, it’s my favorite song from their discography. Debate your mother.

9.62/10

c) Pre-Release single Choices:

I can’t stress about this enough. Whoever was in charge for the single choices needs to go to jail. Not that HYLT is bad (at all) but comparing to the rest of the songs, it look MUCH more like a powerful bside than Love To Hate Me and Pretty Savage ever will. I will lecture later how Pretty Savage was the perfect choice to first release single, just wait. Now, to the controversial Ice Cream. To be honest, i found the song super cute and i think the MV was one of their best. It was different and refreshing, love that for me. But the whole sequence of events that turned out to that disasterous twitter timeline, with constant attacks to the girls especially Lisa over things they cannot control such as line distribuition and a sabotage from antis on yt comment section, was something I kinda already saw it coming. Ice Cream is Blackpink’s most successful single to date, but it was a bad choice from the start (I will talk about that in a second). For starters, YG decided not to promote the song well. While announcing the single, they gave us a poster with pictures from a summer package released months before. And each week they kept doing that, only using actual teaser photos in the release week. The hype was pretty much out. I can’t say my timeline is 100% blink because i have way too many fandoms that i’ve been following for longer than i’ve known kpop, but compared to the HYLT hype, they were pretty down and that’s on YGE. Also, ever since coachella, it’s been antecipated by fans and artists the possibility of a Blackpink x Ariana Grande (one of the most popular singes these last couple of years). The idea of an Aripink collab got blinks (who were already with an eye wide open after Blackpink was seen with Tommy Brown, Ari’s basically oficial producer, who has been producing for her ever since her second album and was reponsible for many hits of her latest project, Thank U, Next, such as 7 rings and Thank U, Next) even more hyped when YG announced (one of those old photoshoot posters. I’m sorry I will never let that go that company is so trash) that Blackpink’s second release was going to be a collaboration with a western artist, and Ariana herself like Jennie’s instagram post about the next single. I cannot put in words the reaction of my twitter timeline when YG confirmed that the collab was actually with Selena Gomez.

Now, on a more personal note.

You see, I actually like Selena. I like her songs, besides the critics. Perfect is pop perfection. Waverly Place is the best disney show ever since That’s So Raven. But, to a collab made to the US market, and besides the success of Rare, Selena isn’t a sales force like Adele or Taylor Swift, nor a streaming force like Ariana Grande. Nothing takes my theory that this was supposed to be an aripink collab but, for some reason, she dipped and then interscope (blackpink us label and selena’s label) picked her. Selena showed us a good time and promoted the girls more than YGE did but, it wasn’t a surprise when the song didn’t get a top 10 (a top 13 is really good tho, don’t get me wrong).

Now back to the story telling

Selena was more than a feat, she sang the whole damn song, getting more vocal lines the the entire vocal line. She’s only a few seconds behind Lisa, who got the most lines in general. I understand that it is a collab, but this is the girls’ single. Why would they want to listen to them for only 16 seconds, the amount of time Rosé got? That set a bunch of solo stans (something that exists more in this fandom than everywhere else) to boycoitt the release, a huge fansite even taking out their funds for the full album (that was low, even for a solo account. JisooBar, you aint seeing heaven). Did i think it was a little of overeacting? As someone who’s an army that had to handle Not Today’s line distribuition, and especially since we’re talking about the main vocalist, someone who will for sure have more lines in the future (as she did), kinda. But, like i said, it was a bomb getting ready to explode at any minute. If it wasn’t that it’d be something else. That being said, NOTHING will ever justify the nastyness y’all did with Lisa and even Jennie’s comment section. Nothing. That was ridiculous even for solo stans. BUT for people who got worried about Lisa’s lack of posts after the release, don’t worry. She didn’t post a lot because Thailand is going through some stuff and I don’t think she has YGe’s permission to talk about it (when I catch the ones in power on that company istg).

Wow, that was long. At essence, it was a bad choice for several reasons, but i enjoyed the song a lot. Can’t wait for the live performances with chaesoo’s lines.

Now, back to HYLT. It was greatly promoted, it stopped Zico’s (huge in korea) releases and a bunch of other big artists in South Korea. Got 7 Perfect All-Kills and would’ve gotten more than 12 if the charts weren’t reforming at the time. It also broke a lot of records, and repeated Sour Candy’s position on the bb100 on #33. It’s another very Blackpink song that I enjoyed but kinda aged. Many non blinks didn’t like it but it’s not like they were ever going to admit they liked a bp song. They’re annoying. The song’s biggest problem is probably the 2015 edm in the chorus. Like. Teddy. You gotta let that go. It’s time. He kinda heard us in the album. But, these kinds of songs are very liked by the general public, especially the korean one. An interview was made asking the general public if blackpink should change concepts and they said a bit fat no. So that tells what you need to know. And that it why i think Pretty Savage should have been the first pre release single.

Okay, let me tell you another series of event. Back on november 2019, when we were starving because YGe does not like money, BlackpinkBar, a big fansite, payed trucks to be sent to YG building during a whole day demanding for better treatment to Blackpink. You can find all the demands online, but at essence, when it came to music related, blinks always mention: Jisoo’s lines, screen time and blackpink in your area, Main Rapper Jennie, Lisa dance break, Rosé’s high note. On HYLT, we got nothing. And everyone had to shrug it off saying it was just a pre release single, BUT it would be better hyped by blink and the hype to the second pre release would’ve lasted longe if PRETTY SAVAGE, who has basically all of that, was the pre release single. It would’ve assured us of so much. Jisoo said bp in your area twice, she RAPPED, she was singing, she could’ve had more screetime and center time especially bc she’s on all chorus. Jennie Main Rapper would go back and we wouldn’t have to be blue balled (which caused the ice cream meltdown)every single release and only having to wait till the title track and only to have a 8 SECOND RAP. I won’t talk about that now. Moving on. Rosé wouldn’t get a high note, but she would’ve gotten the brigde all to herself and the next pre release single, bet you wanna (wait for it), she would get those incredible adlibs. And Lisa’s dance break. Not only this is bp’s most danceable song and has a bunch of lisa’s raps, it also has jennie’s outro, where for a least 20 seconds lisa could’ve thrived. Yall we were robbed.

Now, real quick, back to Ice Cream. In a perfect world (or just a world where YG’s current ceo) had brains, if they wanted a collaboration to show the pink side of blackpink, with a poppy song and sassy lyrics, the artist not to be in the whole song, and to have an artist who would driven attention from the locals and is a big streaming force, THEY WOULD’VE CHOSEN BET YOU WANNA. My biggest problem with bet you wanna is Lisa’s lack of lines, which could cause stuff and well we just miss her they could have added a rap even for 8 seconds, BUT, seeing her all around pretty savage and knowing she’s gonna have Cardi’s rap during live performances would cool things down. Since we were in the middle of a pandemic, instead of a mv like ice cream where they had to do it separately, they could’ve done something like IU’s eight. A huge part in animation and a few with people. Literally YG why are you so dumb. Bye.

d) My Honest Opinion About The Album As A Whole:

I did some math (lol) and my rank for The Album is 8.4. It’s easily one of the best releases from this year and I loved it so much, but something were left to be desired and i think i could pass everything and just turn a blind eye at things, except one: the fact we waited for 4 years, watched all ggs and yg groups getting comebacks last semester and only got 8 songs. Loona is releasing a mini album with that amount of songs. Stray Kids and BTS’s mini albums are longer than that. It was bad enough KTL had 4 songs and a remix (a joke) with 2 songs lacking raps and no rapper jennie only for them to carry YG’s dirty name after what their protected boys did. I legit hate it here they didn’t even had 30 minutes, their longest song wasn’t even 4 minutes. Also, before anyone says anything about the girl’s interview about quality over quantity. I’d like to say that i understand them having that when it comes to have one comeback a year and i’m honestly okay with that. But their first full album? 8 songs? Are you kidding me? Like I said, I’m a consumer. I refuse to receive this half assed excuse about quality over quantity when they had more than enough time to produce and write more than 8 quality songs? what, is impossible to write more than one song per moth? these songs have formulas, they can be made more than 8 times. A blackpink album its more than a thousand reals here. That 90% of a sallary. And please don’t come with the “if you don’t want it just don’t buy it” “you can just unstan them” bc that’s not the case. I love their songs. I love the girls. But I’m a consumer of their art and if they want to be takend seriously as artists, they gotta do more than 8 songs on a full album. It’s unfair to anyone that isn’t a diehard fan willing to sell out an overpriced photobook in hours. That’s not the only kind of fan blackpink needs. they need the store locals, the people who are not on twitter or tumblr or instagram. Cause those locals are gonna stay like they stayed with adele and taylor swift. stan twitter is much more likely to leave them with time.

Side note: I’m tired of commenting on rapper Jennie so I’ll just say Jennie deserves better than 8 second raps as the main rapper of the group. That doesnt mean I want Lisa to not rap or to Jisoo not to sing, as many will say bc apparently that’s what people hear when we say main rapper who trained for 6 years to be a main rapper should rap on at least most title tracks even if not on all songs.

But yeah, that’s it. Besides the unfortunate final note, I loved The Album and now Blackpink it’s my second most listened artist of all time. They were top 13 before the album.

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TAG GAME 🎶

I was tagged by @swiftrecords and i never do these but she made hers all gradient-y and beautiful and it caught my eye now here’s my ugly one

rules: answer 17 questions then tag 17 people you want to know better

nickname: holly zodiac sign: aries height: 5′2 hogwarts house: slytherin last thing i googled: “taylor swift album booklet” to get a quote for the gifset i just posted song stuck in my head: Belief by Gavin DeGraw following: 417 followers: 9,837 amount of sleep i get: i aim for 8 hours, i usually get.... 6 hours dream job: tour photographer but since I already do that, specifically on an arena tour or larger. Dream client would be Bring Me The Horizon (realistic) or Taylor (not realistic lmao). wearing: a black muscle tank that says “bitch don’t kill my vibe”, red plaid pajama shorts, and knee-high fluffy socks aka i look bi as all hell rn favorite songs:

1. CAGES // needtobreathe 2. Evil In The Night // Adam Lambert 3. A Dustland Fairytale // The Killers 4. Lie Lie Lie // Bluebiird 5. Wildest Dreams // Taylor Swift 6. What Gives You The Right // Wilder Woods instruments: is a camera an instrument random facts: i like australia a little. weirder one: i’ve binge-watched every single season of Big Brother. i don’t even wanna talk about how much of my life i’ve wasted doing it, it hurts. 21 40+ hour long episode seasons... yikes aesthetics: combat boots and ripped black jeans, rustic wood, leather jackets, pine scented candles, indie rock / alternative music, push pin maps, driving on an endless highway, long hair, lattes, band tees, only feeling at home when i’m not at home, stubborn, crisp cold air, late nights jesus i’m that non-basic basic person huh

people i’m tagging: @tshifty @swiftiemere @wouldfallfromgracie @whisperinthehallway @whocouldstay @spendsmyspookychange @ciwyw2 @cages-boxes-hunters-foxes @tayloralison @holygroundpiano @loverdeluxe @falsegod @starlight-archer @itwasntasingle @jakeperalta @purpleswift @redliptightskirt @imhereonthekitchenfloor i was typing ‘wtf 17 is a lot of people i give up’ and then counted and i had 17 anyway do this if you want and i didn’t tag you, too it’s 1am and i’m bored

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(1) Can I just say I hate all this Freddie Mercury biopic wank with a passion? Like, this hellsite went from "Queen is one of those boring 'classic' bands all whites are obsessed with bc they won't even consider new music by diverse artists u.u" to "WWRY is clearly a song about rebellious queer youth, cishets don't touch Queen u.u" after someone pointed out Freddie's ethnicity and sexuality, to "why aren't they making Freddie gay in the biopic!!!11" and... whatever they're whining about now.

(2) And I HATE looking at all this bs and thinking "fake fans", bc I'm pretty damn sure that by most standards, *I* count as a "fake fan", too. I mean, most stuff I know about the band's history is actually stuff about Freddie, thanks to a few documentaries centered around him and my mom, the long-time fan with a big crush on Freddie who introduced me to Queen when I was a kid. Hell, I couldn't even name all their albums or anything needed to be considered a "true fan". But ppl on here... ugh. (3) It's like they're really embarrassed bc they were called out on mistaking "woke" stuff for "unwoke" stuff, and now they have this desperate need to prove their ability to discern wokeness by getting offended about something they don't even care all that much about, as loudly and dramatically as they can.

HAHAHAHAHA.

okay so, tldr: I hate this discourse and I honestly hope that it dies within two weeks out of the biopic for a whole lot of reasons amongst which the ones you said, but like, this discourse actually highlights a shitload of issues with the usual tumblr discourse which I will gladly go into now because I’m fucking tired and this movie isn’t out yet.

now, premise: while I don’t think that true fans are a thing - at most there’s casual fans or in-depth fans but I mean, a fan is a fan so I don’t believe in the *fake* fans thing..... the problem here isn’t that they’re fakes. it’s that they aren’t fans. period.

other premise: from what you’ve said you’re a casual fan which is normal and you DON’T count as fake I mean if you like them and listen to them and know something it’s basically being a casual fan same as I am with idk the rolling stones, I like the famous stuff, I have the fundamental records and I like them when they’re on but that’s it.

but, yours truly is a Not Casual Queen Fan in the sense that a) I got into them when I was seventeen and I’m thirty now so thanks it’s been a while, b) I own all the records, c) I own a decent portion of roger taylor’s/brian may’s solo records (and I have listened to all of them that I couldn’t buy), d) I went to see them live once (k it was with paul rodgers but nvm guys not my fault if I wasn’t born in time for freddie) and I love queen’s music and I’m also fucking cishet and you know what? these people Are Not Fans and they should stop pretending they are and just stop making themselves look like assholes.

SPECIFICALLY:

the movie’s not out yet and I’ve had to see FIFTEEN ‘FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL CISHETS THAT FREDDIE MERCURY WAS GAY (at least a couple said he was bi and they were less asshole-ish) AND POC AND IF YOU DON’T KNOW YOU’D BETTER LEARN NOW HAHAHAHA YOU THOUGHT HE WASN’T. spoilers: every fucking casual queen fan who has bothered to buy three records knows that. yes, also the cishets. like, as someone who went from VERY CASUAL (ie: I know three songs) to NOT CASUAL in the span of two months I can 100% assure you that before getting into queen the usual preconceptions are that freddie was gay and that queen = freddie + three other people. the first three things you learn when getting into queen are (more or less in order but it can change) that a) the band was actually brian may + roger taylor first, b) that roger brought freddie in because they knew each other already, c) that mary austin was a fundamental person in freddie’s life and that she was also brian may’s ex and knew him first before they got together, d) the members’s backstories including where freddie was born, so like...... this idea that CASUAL CISHET FANS wouldn’t know that freddie was a) not heterosexual, b) poc is just something a NON-FAN would say because guess what, most queen fans even at a casual level are 100% aware that freddie was a) not heterosexual, b) not ethnical british. and saying that OMG CISHETS DON’T KNOW it’s ridiculous because guess what, everyone knows and if they have no idea they do, though luck, we did;

(spoilers: I also am 99% sure that those ppl have no idea that roger and brian actually sing on the records and composed a shitload of the music and queen =/= ONLY FREDDIE but okay)

they have no idea that rock music in the 70s/80s was not so heteronormative and was not the cishetmalething they think it is. like, please look at led zeppelin (ie THE PEOPLE WITHOUT WHOM YOU WOULDN’T HAVE HEAVY METAL) and tell me they were heteronormative. like, you saw robert plant? yeah, me too. and the thing was that queen were revolutionary in the sense that they brought an operatic/theatrical approach to the music that no one tried before but guess what, the point is that they made it sell. the thing that I would like tumblr Woke People to grasp is that what made queen groundbreaking as far as Wokeness goes is that they managed to sell and become the monster-moneymaking group they were (while keeping things quality) with a frontman who was Not Heterosexual, Did Not Try To Pass For Heterosexual One Day In His Life and Never Shied Away From It. like, idk if people are aware that while the scene was way less heteronormative than they think it still wasn’t the most openly talked about topic around (I mean guys elton john did marry a woman at some point X°DDD), but going around in the seventies flaunting your non-heterosexualness around and selling millions of copies making your stage persona a selling point of your music wasn’t exactly common. like ffs one of the most famous queen songs has a video where for 3/4 of the time they’re in drag and the other part has freddie performing with the royal ballet (and guess what the song was actually written by john deacon and the idea of doing the video in drag was roger taylor’s and none of them as far as we know is Not Heterosexual, but never mind giving the rest of the band some credit when it came to Not Caring About Heteronormativity) and fine, that video was banned/controversial, but it still was a huge british hit and it’s in the top five queen songs Everyone Knows. and tbh I’m terrified of that video being shown in the biopic (which it should since the works was from ‘84 and they stop at ‘85) because I’m 100% sure that those people have no idea it exists and when they find out how long is it gonna take them to decide that IT’S PROBLEMATIC? I mean, Woke Kids on here think the rhps is problematic, I’m shuddering at the thought of what they’d think of the i want to break free video;

actually a lot of us cishet queen fans might have had a wake up call including, er, finding out certain preferences, thanks to either their music or their shows or their videos (*cough* I 100% assure you that watching roger taylor in drag was what made me realize crossdressing was my thing for good like I knew before but I didn’t actually put two and two together until I saw that video and went like ‘............. AH WELL SHIT THEN THAT’S IT FAIR ENOUGH’), and a lot of us cishet queen fans who weren’t, like, strictly playing to heteronormative rules back in the day found a lot to relate to in their music even without being queer ourselves and guess what I’ve never met a single queen *fan* who could give less of a damn about freddie’s ethnicity or orientation (as in: everyone was a-okay with it) regardless of their background. that was what made them groundbreaking and extremely important as well, because they managed to be that kind of record-selling records-breaking band while not shying away from having a Not Heterosexual frontman AND Not Heteronormative Heterosexual Band Members Who Also Didn’t Give Two Fucks About Their Lead Singer’s Sexuality so going like OMG NOW WE’RE GONNA TEACH YOU THAT FREDDIE WASN’T HETEROSEXUAL BECAUSE WE’RE WOKE is ridiculous because dearest susan, we already knew and we already were woke about that and to us he was the frontman of a band we liked for a bunch of reasons;

also I don’t think people realize that freddie was a role model/example for the entire next generation of rock bands frontmen even in genres that had zilch to do with him - I mean guys AXL ROSE had a hero-worship for freddie and sang bohemian rhapsody at the freddie memorial concert WITH ELTON JOHN and grn really aren’t the same exact sphere as queen jsyk, but if you look at axl on stage esp. when he was younger? guys. it’s obvious. like you can see the influence. but lmao, now ALL the very cishet(-ish) singers who OPENLY SAID FREDDIE INFLUENCED THEM DIDN’T KNOW ACCORDING TO TUMBLR DOT COM?

LIKE, fuck’s sake, one of freddie’s major accomplishments in that sense was to ending up being a role model for younger singers in a genre where heteronormativity is way less common than everyone thinks BUT where not many people esp. back in the day would be open about their sexuality because it still was a taboo-ish thing -- like, gender roles were a lot more blurred but you wouldn’t hear many of those people admitting openly they were bi or gay or Not Heterosexual and the entirety of the rock scene especially mainstream but also not was entirely fucking aware of it, do these people think THE FANS wouldn’t?

also, we will rock you was WRITTEN BY BRIAN MAY AND IT WAS ABOUT A FUCKING ENCORE WHERE THE FANS SURPRISED THEM AT ONE SHOW IN LIKE MID-SEVENTIES which already shows that They Know Nothing because if they think freddie wrote all the queen songs then it’s already obvious they have no fucking clue about how queen worked as a band because all the members contributed something (guys john deacon wrote at least two of their major hits, roger taylor sang on all the records along with brian may and if you hear the back harmonies on ‘39 he goes way higher than freddie and a part in seaside rendezvous has both him and freddie mimicking other instruments with their voice and you wouldn’t know if no one told you first, brian may wrote a SHITLOAD of music for queen and it was an all-four effort, not just freddie + three other generic british dudes for fuck’s sake) so like, anyone saying that is already giving ample proof that they have no idea;

now of course you can interpret it as whatever the hell you want, but assuming that all of queen’s music that might relate to queer issues was written by freddie ABOUT QUEER ISSUES (this when freddie’s main topic of interest was... not really discussing his sexuality especially in the seventies like again, I want to break free is one of the queen to-go songs everyone brings up when it comes to that topic and IT WAS WRITTEN BY SOMEONE ELSE and the video concept was THANKS TO SOMEONE ELSE) just shows that a) you don’t know shit about the band’s history, b) you’re not a fan because you didn’t even bother to look it up on wiki, c) you’re trying to look woke at all costs;

they have NO FUCKING CLUE that most people in the 70s/80s/90s in the business were NOT politically correct according to their standards LIKE LITERALLY NO ONE WAS;

goes unsaid they probably haven’t listened to one full queen album from beginning to end not even the greatest hits.

tldr: I hate that they don’t seem to realize that things existed before 2005 and that music in the 70s/80s COULD and WAS diverse and *woke* already before they were even born, I hate that they decided that ALL CISHETS DIDN’T KNOW when thank you I think even my damned parents know and they don’t listen to rock music, I hate that they decided that queen APPARENTLY DIDN’T HAVE A FANBASE BEFORE THEM (lol) or that that fanbase didn’t understand them (triple-lol), I hate that they’re reducing freddie to his sexuality when he didn’t want that in the first place, I hate that they’re falling into THE MAIN MISCONCEPTION AROUND ABOUT THIS BAND as in THAT IT WAS FREDDIE + THREE OTHER PEOPLE and not an all-around group effort of people who were friends and deeply loved/respected each other and put the same share of work into it, I hate that they moment they see the movie and are introduced to the actual music/the actual story they’ll MOST LIKELY find problematic things to wank about because like hell they wouldn’t and I hate that they’re basically pretending to give a fuck about a band that I love and have loved dearly in a very non-casual way when they actually fucking don’t.

fucking hell please never let anyone make a biopic about either springsteen or led zeppelin or other people I actually like because this is bad enough, I don’t even want to think of what tumblr ppl would say if they knew anything about any rock artist of medium-large fame back in the day. peace.

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