#no hate towards neither of them

[just-an-enby-lemon]

Controversial take:

Bruce Wayne is bad at being a socialite (he mostly just fakes being one) but good at being a bilionare (he knows some practices are wrong but doesn't think being a bilionare is inherently wrong and tries to be an ethical one to mixed results cause you can't bro) while Oliver Queen is great at being a socialite but bad at being a bilionare (he knows being a bilionares is inherently wrong and he tries his best to not be one but the system is flawed and the money keeps returning and it drives him insane).

And like Bruce is not a bad person he just doesn't have the same level of political awareness than Oliver.

For example on the socialite thing: Bruce hates galas and he feels very unconfortable in interviews even if his Brucie persona doesn't show. He thinks is all too shallow. Oliver on the other hand does feel the slightly unconfortable sensacion of being the only leftist there in most galas but he does love the events, he'll dance his lil heart away, adores the gossip, the fast cars, before Dinah (and Hal) he also adored the attention from all the man and woman there and being fully a slut.

But on the bilionare thing:

Bruce Wayne pays the college debt of everyone in Gotham City. You subscribe in a Wayne Enterprises website shows your financial records and grades and if you can go to an Ivvy League but can't pay for it Bruce will do. Oliver will pay for the college debt of someone if asked to but is not an organized project instead Star City has the best comunity colleges of the country able to compete with even Ivvy League universities because Oliver donates a lot of money to comunity colleges and funded a social group to make sure the money was going to the right places, like hiring good professord and paying them very well, having well equiped labs and confortable rooms and good dorms. Oliver fully belives that all education should be free and high quality comunity free education is the type of thing tax payer money should be focused on (Star City also the best public schools on general).

Also Bruce pays his taxes. Oliver comits tax fraud to pay extra taxes (he also fights HARD to try to implement less taxes for the poor and a lot of more taxes to the rich, Bruce agrees but he does not support it to the level Oliver does).

So yeah. That's my take on them. I also think people tend to see Bruce who hates being a socialite and has way more charity work and think he fits more the "being against bilionares and political bill" while Oliver who likes being a socialite and instead of charities mostly finances social groups, unions, govermental projects or even other people charities gets the "classical bilionare *rolls eyes at his anthics*" treatment.

P.S: I'm not from the US and am assuming based on how they are showed on media that comunity college is free. If it's not. It is in Star City cause of Ollie.

[sunshades]

Ok i let the intervallo simmer here's some thoughts:

- it's true this intervallo is comedic and kind of "not that deep" (bear with me a sec) and negative interactions aren't to be taken That seriously like im seeing a lot of people do

- BUT this can also absolutely be a negative thing and i agree theres a lot of bits where it doesnt feel good to read. Sinclair is getting the scaredy little baby writing, Heathcliff is getting the haha delinquent writing, ishmael has this constant "joke about water/ships/whales/whatever"- we kinda know by now the sinners who had their canto already have a noticeable drop in quality (even yi sang whose writing always gets the most care at times falls into a comic relief role)

- at the same time, wondering why the group isn't being That friendly... especially "the sinners are suddenly so mean to heathcliff and treating him like he's stupid" is just. guys. they never stopped. this was how don quixote -the one he's consistently been the kindest towards- was treating him in TKT, barely a couple weeks after canto 6 in universe LOL

- it just... feels disingenuous to say "but they were such good friends in canto 7" when that whole scene came a bit out of the blue? the sinners have never been close friends all the way to canto 7- let's not forget how in MOTWE it was important to see Faust, meursault and ishmael have a couple moments with the other sinners (faust and ishmael with each other, faust with yi sang and dante, meursault with don and heathcliff) because the whole game they barely had any positive interactions. ishmael for example has shot down gregor's attempts at befriending her a couple times in the past, and never really felt indebted towards heathcliff for worrying about her in canto 5 (or at least that never made her want to be nicer to him)- but those aren't writing mistakes when she herself in LCB checkup even jokes about being kinda awful at making/keeping friends. she's just kinda like that. "im not that nice"

- that being said there are a lot of interactions in the checkup that imply they are actually getting closer. hong lu and sinclair are in good terms, meursault apparently now interacts with the others pretty often, ishmael and yi sang watch over don quixote (pretty significant when u consider one of ish's few interactions with don was calling her delusional in canto 5), ryoshu is interested in don, and i think even ishmael and ryoshu's squabble is interesting considering their last interaction was in canto 4 (where they were getting along even less). the intervallo definitely has some writing pitfalls but i think it's absolutely better if you keep in mind what the text has been telling us in all the chapters that lead up to it, not just counting c7's climax as something so completely defining of everyone's characters.

[sprucestairs]

you've heard of "AU where Beel saved Lillith instead of Belphie", now get ready for "AU where Beel managed to pull off saving both of them at the cost of his own life"

[chaoswillcalmusdown]

The Banshees of Inisherin / Polite Society / Spider-Man: Across the Spider-verse / Summer of Soul/They Cloned Tyrone /The Godfather/Rye Lane / Bottoms / Die Hard

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[grimalkinmessor]

ACTUALLY back to my Lilo & Stitch MP100 comparisons, since I usually make Arataka's sister so much older than him, I see them as having a kind of Nani and Lilo dynamic—

Arataka: Why don't you sell me and buy a rabbit instead!?

Anehito: At least a rabbit would behave better than you!

Arataka: Go ahead! Then you'll be happy because it'll be smarter than me TOO!

Anehito: And quieter!!

Arataka: You'll like it 'cause it's STINKY like YOU!

Anehito: GO TO YOUR ROOM!

Arataka: I'M ALREADY IN MY ROOM!

•

Anehito: Arataka, you open this door this instant!

Arataka: Go away...

Anehito: Arataka we don't have time for this!

Arataka, laying face down on the floor: Leave me alone to die.

Anehito: You are SO finished when I get in there! I'm gonna stuff you into the blender, push puree, bake you into a pie and then FEED IT TO THE SOCIAL WORKER!

—and then of course the soft moments too 👉👈🥺🥰

[orphiicheartd]

Floyd is 100% easily flustered by anything romance pertaining to himself, otherwise he finds is downright nasty

[mimiri22-6]

I've been waiting for the update all day and I finally looked again at 12am-ish and WOO! There it is! 4 and a half hours later I have consumed all of it! I probably overlooked some things, but that's what revisiting is for! I even got all the pieces for the super secret final puzzle, which my pea (👀) brain Could not put together, and went to the super secret place!

THIS UPDATE WAS SO COOL AND LOVE LOVE LOVE IT! I can't Wait to see more people dig in and dissect it! But also I can because brains need sleep, christ my eye is starting to hurt.

I need to go hug my Wally plush now, shit has Really gone down this time. I ALSO NEED AN EDDIE PLUSH SO I CAN HUG HIM TOO!!!

Also also, that last little part of you know what with Frank and Eddie!?!! My heart shattered and melted at the same exact time! Frank went Completely soft and "Eddie?" GAH-destroyed me! Also, was that fucking fire-

[waugh-bao]

I noticed they changed their Spotify profile pic to just the three of them. I get that Charlie isn’t in the band anymore, but it just feels wrong on so many levels.

And you made a good point about that physical gap between Mick and Keith in the photo and how they would probably end up calling it quits if something happened to Mick or Keith. I honestly think they would continue on without Ronnie if it came to that, sadly. I just have so many feelings about this.

The picture that they use in their description:

Used to be their profile photo, and I wouldn’t be shocked to see that change in the next couple days either.

I don’t even know anymore…

[nobodysystem]

actually i finally got a “someone hurt you” and it was like You crave revenge, right? and it’s like. no. i don’t. thanks

[elytrafemme]

well whoever it was who tried to switch in is gone i think. hashtag slay moment

[seas-arts-n-things]

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more biscuit jump memes from the birb app

[cryptosexologist]

might just blacklist the terms “faggot” and “dyke” tbh

[arolesbianism]

Been thinking abt her again

[tamaharu]

kdj -> sys: this kid reminds me too much of myself in bad ways but the ways in which shes similar either come up when im going as hard as i can in my denial phase or dont get spelled out to me in exact detail until im already too invested in her to get rid of her but in the meantime i can ignore her without having to think too deeply about it

^ reductive bc i still have to roll her around in my head especially in relation to late game stuff but corey (one of my friends reading orv) brought up the fact that "kdj's literal Incarnation On Earth, Embodiment Of Self [is] a scared little girl who had to kill somebody and is terrified she's gonna turn into a monster". which. oh my goddd of course. of course. like this is so obvious that i wouldnt be surprised if everyone else has already noticed this/pointed this out and i just missed it but like yeah of fucking course she is!

of course kdjs incarnation, his daughter, one of the few characters that can see beyond the veil he puts up from very early on, is shin yoosung: a child. a child who had to kill to survive, to steal resources from others to survive, to isolate herself from other people to survive, and thinks of herself as evil for it, and thus undeserving of of sympathy and very deserving of death. a child who grows up to be a monster, a literal vehicle of the story through the disaster of floods/biyoo. a child who, if killed via disconnected film theory, will in turn prevent all the suffering her adult self would cause, who would, after surviving, drive everyone she loved to utter misery.

i wonder where we've heard this story before. should we read it again? :)

kdj -> knw: this kid reminds me too much of myself in bad ways but hes doing something clearly morally wrong so i can ignore/kill him without having to think too deeply about it

kdj -> lgy: this kid reminds me too much of myself in bad ways but the way in which hes similar isnt relevant to the scenario at hand so i can ignore him without having to think too deeply about it

kdj -> ljh: this kid reminds me too much of myself in bad ways but shes yjhs problem so i can ignore her without having to think too deeply about it

[maybeicanbesaved]

just had to yell at two kids because they had the audacity to come dump the water i’ve been keeping out for the stray cats (which i go to great lengths to keep cold/cool throughout the day bc of the severe heat) & then proceed to try and throw the container up onto the roof over our door,, they didn’t know i was looking out the peephole as soon as i heard kids outside the door, because i happened to be in the kitchen at the time. yeah i don’t fucking think so. little shits. didn’t even apologize or anything, just went from brief shock to running off, probably to cry to their parent about the mean lady wahh. yeah good i wish their parent or whomeever would come knocking on my door to ‘confront’ me, because i sure as fuck have a lot to say to them

[lgbtlunaverse]

I've seen a good number of people ask a question along the lines of "why do characters like Falin and hate Laios when they're so similar?" and i've also seen good analysis on the differences in how the touden siblings carry themselves that would, despite their shared traits, make a person gravitate to one more than the other.

But i feel like we've overseen one very central thing here.

People don't like Falin

Like... the average person in dungeon meshi doesn't like Falin. She was deeply ostrasized by her home village, in magic school she had zero friends before Marcille and the others generally saw her as strange and a bit offputting.

Characters like Namari and Chilchuck like her well enough but not necessarily more than any other member of their party, including Laios. Neither Kabru nor his party think much of her. The canaries don't give a fuck about her. Toshiro's retainers don't see her as anything else than the weird foreign girl their boss has a crush on.

The reason we think everyone loves Falin is because, despite all the indifferent side characters, the 2 most important and central characters of the story are Laios and Marcille. Who are NOT representative of the average attitudes to Falin! But necromancy georg number 1 and 2 are our main eyes into the story and they love Falin so much that it colours our perspective of the whole world.

The only side character who qualifies as liking Falin and not Laios is Toshiro (at least at first, as he ends the story on much better terms with Laios) and that says a lot about his character, with him drifting to the quiet Falin precisely because of her oddness but being both uncomfortable with and deeply jealous of Laios' much more open expression of that oddness. Because he's a repressed guy from a culture where etiquette is incredibly important.

But like I said, that's a specific aspect of him, not to the world at large.

Because there's also people that click more with laios than with Falin.

Kabru, for one, who is initially distrustful of laios but clearly also deeply fascinated by him and drawn to him.

Minor spoilers, and you don't have to read too deeply into this, because I don't think Kabru particularly dislikes Falin or anything. But it's interesting that when he talks about his distrust of the toudens in ch.32 he's talking about them both. But his big friendship declaration in chapter 76 is aimed squarely at Laios, he doesn't say "you and your sister" he says "you"

And Senshi!! He instantly clicks with Laios, well before he does so with anyone else in the party– who he also becomes friends with, it just takes a bit longer– specifically because they bond over their shared special interest in monsters!! Senshi is kind towards Falin and cares for her wellbeing, but he also... doesn't know her. The reason he is even here, helping to save her, is because he and Laios bonded over monsters and he wants to help his new friends out!

Of course, the theme of neurodivergent isolation is very present in Laios' story. I'm not denying that. He does turn people off, without meaning to and unable to fully understand why! But so does Falin. And just like there are people who like her despite of or even because of those traits, there are people who do the same with him.

In conclusion: "Average person loves Falin and hates Laios" factoid actually statistical error. Average person is neutral on both Falin and Laios. Georcille, Laiorg and Geoshiro, who live in the dungeon and think over 10,000 Falin-loving thoughts a day, are statistical outliers adn should not have been counted.