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panther-os · 2 years ago
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If you could change anything about Star Wars, what would your top five changes be?
Oh I had to think about this - not a lot, but I did have to think. I'm approaching this from a Doylist perspective, so "what would I change about the Star Wars writing and etc" rather than "what would I change in the Star Wars universe".
Make Anakin's characterization consistent.
Get a start on erasing the bigotry by treating Tuskens as people from the beginning (ANH), removing the blood libel from Trandoshan portrayals, giving Ahsoka brown eyes to match pre-existing Togruta character and her African American facial features, and reversing harmful stereotypes that were made into entire alien species.
Redefine "true love" in the context of the narrative from possessive obsession to healthy commitment.
Center TCW on the clones.
Put more Mandalorian culture in The Mandalorian, including showing Din as an adopted he/him nonbinary who wears full modesty garb instead of a boy stolen by a cult-adjacent isolationist community, and also including showing more Mandalorian factions and unaligned diaspora.
Tied with #5 and semi-related: Put more nuanced Jedi culture and philosophy on-screen as well as morally good non-Jedi, non-Sith Force traditions from Legends, especially the indigenous ones.
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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Do you have thoughts about Jedi holidays?
Oh, I actually haven't thought about this before. 👀
I wanna say they definitely have at least one festival dedicated to each of the five core parts of Jewish holidays - candles, singing, leaves, food, and "the people who tried to kill us failed, woohoo!" I've been playing a lot of swtor lately so I feel like that last one would be the anniversary of the Coruscant Temple's destruction in the Sith Wars. Candles is light, obviously. Singing, maybe something to do with kyber? Leaves, hm, I have vague half-formed thoughts about the Room of One Thousand Fountains and similar gardens in other temples. Food is pretty self-explanatory but there could be something like World Thinking Day in scouts where different ethnic groups gather together to make little booths with their local cuisine for everyone in the temple to try.
The idea of Shaak Ti walking Ahsoka and Ashla through traditional Togruti recipes and the two girls beaming with pride as other Jedi walk up to try what they made.... How they vibrate with wanting to go see all the other booths but they also want to stay and keep giving out food and eventually Shaak smiles at them and asks them to go find something they think she'd like because she's hungry - and don't worry, she'll take good care of the food they made and tell them all about the Jedi who come by while they're gone.
I also feel like there would be festivals of knowledge, days of contemplation/peace, and giant carnivals of harmony/community. The carnivals could also tie into the food festival. I can almost visualize in Ye Olden Days padawans and younglings putting together floats and such to march in parade down the Processional Way from the temple to the Senate and those ethnic food booths being set up like food carts along the way, on the steps of the temple, or both. There wouldn't be enough time or supplies towards the prequel era as the Jedi were slowly strangled by the Senate but at one time, I could see it being absolutely glorious and something all the non-Jedi on Coruscant looked forward to eagerly.
Thank you for asking this! I don't think I would've thought of it on my own. ❤️
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panther-os · 4 months ago
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Spicy blackberry OC: Was she raised in a sect? What are her friends in the Jiang sect like? Does she have any hobbies or interests?
Feel free to skip any of these!
She's the eldest daughter of the leader of an original minor sect! The Ma clan is known for their horsemastery and they provide best-trained horses to the Nie clan and others.
She's slow to make friends in the Jiang sect, but the ones she does are steadfast and lifelong, tending to be from lower status and more menial working backgrounds. She finds that once she's made herself a safe person for them to be around, they're much more real with her than others might be.
She is of course a horse girl and she also enjoys reading and gardening. One of jc's wedding gifts to her is her own garden - much like in the book The Secret Garden, actually!
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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Any thoughts on Clone and/or Jedi language?
Too Many of them 😅
The biggest thing on my mind for trooper languages right now is that Jaster was a Journeyman Protector and so was Jango's bio dad, so Boba, the Alphas, and any CCs or CTs the Alphas trained directly most likely speak JP dialect Mando'a like Bacara does. I have sound change rules written up for converting standard Mando'a to JP but I need to finish transliterating the established dictionary before I can feed everything to Vulgar and generate the remaining vocabulary.
I think besides Mando'a, the clones probably haven't been exposed to many languages besides Galactic Basic and various common languages like Shyriiwook and Gand where the speakers can't translate themselves due to structural differences in the vocal tract.
For Jedi, I've created [counts on fingers] four? Sleheyr, Kimpian, Dyungzilyu - three! I've created three languages for various slave communities in the galaxy (inspired by fialleril's Amatakka) that are spoken by different members of the Jedi Order. Not all of them, as they're all closed languages, but enough that there's a sort of cultural exchange going on in the Temple. Those that aren't rescued slaves themselves are trusted rescuers who have been taught by Elders.
Sleheyr uses custom phenomes and is spoken by the Prosmyi (sky-children) of Sleheyron and is integral to my OC Taio Pallas. Kimpian uses Farsi phenomes for the most part and is spoken on Nar Shaddaa and in one of my WIPs, Nico Diath offers to get permission from an Elder to teach Eeth Koth, who was born a slave in my headcanon. Dyungzilyu uses Mandarin phenomes with slightly different spelling (but just as many diacritics) and is spoken on Bandomeer.
I'll actually share a snippet real quick. This is a giant time and dimension travel groupchat epistolary fic. This is 10yo Anakin (one year post-TPM) and 49yo Obi-Wan (eleven years post-RotS), while Taio is from 1½-2 years post-AotC and is the same age as the Anakin in her time. Aayla, Eeth, and the clones are from one year post-AotC while Nico is roughly three years pre-AotC.
Anakin Skywalker: Yithai, bliv gey yi kid muv beyng thev mim. Okay! I’m gonna practice it!
Taio Pallas: Don’t forget to tell your teacher that you want to meet me and Kalo, he’ll be able to schedule it with Master Nu. You’ll also need to tell him you have a tracker and need to have it removed, he probably doesn’t know.
Kenobi: I can confirm that he does not. Also, Anakin, if you want to get his attention, call him yēngun. It’s Dyungzilyu for teacher.
Taio Pallas: You too?
Kenobi: Unfortunately, I had an eventful Padawanship.
Windu: Bandomeer was your initiatehood.
Kenobi: That, too. Really, though, it was only a year.
Taio Pallas: Mine was only two, and I don’t remember it. You were trusted enough to be taught the language, which makes you one of us.
Aaylas’ecura: Ca jehsa eyi ca jehsa eyi ca jehsa eyi
Eeth Koth: Jee-jee vaa tula goola.
Anakin Skywalker: U settah huttese?
Eeth Koth: I do. I don’t remember if my people on Nar Shaddaa had their own language or what it was. I was three when my parents abandoned me on the streets instead of killing me like Master ordered, and four when I was Found. I only know that much because I told my Finder and they remembered and made sure to tell me when I was old enough to ask.
Nico Diath: Could’ve said something. You want Kimpian, I’ll see if I can find an Elder or Keeper on my way back to Coruscant, get permission to teach you.
Gree: So many culture, language, and history subchannels, this is great.
Taio Pallas: And of course the Vode are welcome, too, since you all come from a background of slavery.
8826: Well I wanted to but now that you’ve said something…
Gree: Don’t be a bastard, Neyo.
Bacara: He can’t help it, it’s his one setting.
Taio Pallas: I thought it was funny.
Anakin is practicing a Sleheyr greeting for meeting a fellow slave for the first time. Aayla is saying "one of us one of us one of us" in Ryl, and Eeth is saying "we can start a band" in Huttese, after which Anakin asks if he speaks Huttese.
I do also think the large number of languages spoken in the Temple results in a lot of mixed metaphors and a constantly developing creole formed primarily around Force-based jargon. Pretty much every Jedi is canonically multilingual, but this would be yet another reason for it.
Besides that, I'm a huge fan of the already existing Dai Bendu, which I hc is also a ceremonial language for Miralukka due to their shared history with the Jedi Order. (And I've crafted a fully developed Miralukkan common language as well. And a Kel Dor one. And a less developed Trandoshan one.)
If I let myself talk about languages any more, I'll never shut up. 😅 Thank you for the ask! This is one of my passions and another of my special interests (as I'm sure you cannot tell (sarcasm)) so I always love talking about it.
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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Neyo
Tech, Echo, or Dogma
Wolffe (more of a squish but still #1)
Mace Windu
Eigengrau
So stuff has happened and everything is really stressful rn so to make things feel less shit I'm gonna post a little Q and A session.
Feel free to answer all, some, or none of the questions below. ❤️
1. Who is your favourite clone?
2. Which clone are you most like?
3. #1 clone crush?
4. Which Jedi would you want as a general?
5. If you were a clone, what colour would you paint your armour? (It doesn't necessarily have to match a battalion).
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My answers are as follows:
1. Rex
2. Echo (throw in some Tech, Tup and Wrecker as well).
3. Echo 💙
4. OBI-WAN! (Plo Koon and Kit Fisto are also acceptable).
5. I mean blue makes up most of my wardrobe so I could just go for the 501st colour scheme, but I absolutely love Howzer's teal colour, so probably that.
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panther-os · 10 months ago
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SO Many of these intrigue me! I am torn. But...Silas/Mace?
!!! so I was reading blackkat fics as one does and immediately got hit with an idea for a rarepair? all I have right now plot wise is that Silas teams up with an undercover Agen after Galidraan to try and find Jango. Silas only refers to Jango as his brother in front of Agen, and at some point Agen is like "oh yeah I have a brother too and he'd be very helpful with this" and calls Mace up. Silas is originally like "oh my god he's hot" at Agen but then he's like "oh my god he's DIVINE" at mace. potentially (most likely lbr) there will also be Jango/Agen. here's what I have written so far:
Silas has been looking for Jango for too long. He steps back from the holo display and rubs at the bridge of his nose, quietly despairing. “Where did you go?”
“Looking for someone?” his traveling companion asks.
Argent Cole is a tall, tall Iridonian, with a crown of horns and dotted tattoos in the manner of his people. He's steady, perceptive, and honorable, and he needed a ride to the next planet over after their job was done.
He offered to pay, and Silas needs the money to keep his ship running so he can keep looking. It has nothing to do with how badly he wants Argent to crush his skull between his thighs.
“My brother,” Silas answers. Basic doesn't have the words for who Jango is to him, but brother is close enough.
Argent steps closer. “Maybe fresh eyes will help.”
Silas hesitates. It's an internal Mandalorian matter, a part of him that sounds suspiciously like Myles says. Having allies can't hurt, says another part that sounds suspiciously like Jaster. Until they stab you in the back, yet another part says, thinking of Montross.
The part of him that has always sounded like Jango is silent, and it's that which makes his decision.
Silas steps back and gestures to the display with all the information he's gathered. “Have at it."
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panther-os · 4 months ago
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Ooooh how was their first meeting?
This was actually the section I finished today! It was so painfully awkward, but then she genuinely laughed and agreed when he bitched about something, and he immediately fell in love. (She has the cutest little snort-laugh.) She's not at that point yet, but it's coming!
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panther-os · 4 months ago
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How did they end up together?
They met through a matchmaker! I've altered canon so that Jiang Cheng was blacklisted by every matchmaking business rather than by the social circles of all the women he met, but one of them still kept notes about him. Their apprentice was reading through old notes as well as ones from that day and realized the two of them matched up super well. And the matchmaker couldn't resist the prestige of being the one to arrange the marriage of a famously unmarriageable clan leader. XD
Here's a snippet of what I have so far, it's the letter the matchmaker sends to the Jiang clan:
To the esteemed Sandu Shengshou, This humble one is Tian Hegong of Qinghe. Many years ago, Jiang-zongzhu contracted this one’s services in finding a bride. This one has discovered a suitable match and requests Jiang-zongzhu and his retinue accompany this one and her apprentice to the Ma clan of Yangquan to meet the potential bride. In service, Tian Hegong of Qinghe
It's a little over the top, but that's on purpose as part of her characterization. I have so far finished two of the eight sections in this story - each one is from the point of view of a different original female character, with spiky blackberry wife's pov being last. ^_^
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panther-os · 4 months ago
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Omg I wanna hear about the spiky blackberry wife!!! What is she like?? Does she fit JC's list?
She does!
naturally beautiful - my fc for her is Liu Shishi who is just. amazingly pretty
graceful and obedient - definitely graceful, and she's obedient but not blindly so, if she has a genuine problem, she'll bring it up to jc in private but she'll defer to him in public and make sure to present a united front
hard-working and thrifty - she's been managing her parents' household under her mother's oversight for a few years and she's good at it, she definitely knows her way around a budget as a result. she also wanted to learn how things were done to make sure she's giving sensible orders, so she knows how to cook and clean and occupy herself and will pitch in if needed, though she knows when to step back and let people do their jobs
coming from a respected family - she's the eldest daughter of the Ma clan leader, a minor clan of my own invention that is based in Yangquan and made up of horsemasters who provide the best trained horses to the Nie clan
cultivation level not too high - she's just powerful enough for minor talismans and short sword flights, she knows theory as well as strong cultivators do but she is not one herself, she still works hard to be able to defend herself and her home if it ever becomes necessary but for that she usually winds up training with non-cultivators and their methods
personality not too strong - this one was hard to find a balance because she can't be a doormat either, especially with jc's own strong personality, but I think I managed it where she's confident and willing to speak up when it matters but neither extremely strong-willed nor overtly challenging
not too talkative, voice not too loud - she's quiet when she talks at all, not in a "she doesn't like to talk" way but more in an introspective "she wants to make sure whatever she says is meaningful" way, she's a foil to jc in this way, where he talks a lot and says very little she instead talks very little and says a lot, but she's still good at conversation - she has to be in order to perform her political duties well
must treat Jin Ling nicely - to her, Jin Ling is a growly wet kitten she found behind a dumpster and she absolutely adores him for it, she will occasionally spoil him, and jc likes her because she's very clearly not trying to curry favor or anything, she sees Jin Ling for who he is and she accepts and loves him that way
bonus, here are my two favorite pictures of Liu Shishi for this character - both from zll/love lost in times (ofc my favorites have to include the one I found of her wearing purple):
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I'm also going to be taking inspiration from the blue and grey one for the Ma clan colors, those feel close enough to the cql Nie to declare allegiance while distinct enough to be recognizable as their own sect.
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panther-os · 10 months ago
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i would very much like to hear about number 9 the great clone bake off :D
!!! this is a 5+1 fic I started for the food prompt during gree week but it was taking too long. basically gree puts together a team of his men to come up with a cultural dish for the clones, which they decide will be a sweet fish dumpling. there is Much trial and error. here's a snippet from immediately after the first attempt:
Gree leaned forward, stylus and datapad in hand to take notes. “Alright, give me the details.”
“Filling texture was all wrong -”
“I think it was the oil -”
“- the pastry is tough as rubber -”
“- it was like a fish film over the whole thing -”
“- and the spices were so overpowering.”
“- I swear I could peel it.”
“It’s the most disgusting thing I’ve ever tasted,” Cooker and Nemec said in unison, “I would prefer rat-bars.”
“Fascinating,” Gree said, passing his datapad to the Mess Sergeant.
Wyot hummed over the notes, then took out his own handheld to mark up his recipe. “Alright, water is a bust, fish oil is a bust, spice mix is a bust…. I’ll work on some empty shells until I’ve got the pastry part right.”
“Any ideas for what’s next?”
Gal leaned over Wyot’s shoulder. “I’d go straight to spacer lard for frying. Pretty sure your spices are just too much and too similar. Needs some variety.”
“What do you got in mind?” Wyot asked.
Gal shrugged. “Hell if I know. Something simple, probably. Like sugar. Maybe the tiniest bit of salt to balance it out, like in those cookies Commander Offee makes.”
Wyot cursed under his breath and scribbled in Gal’s suggestions.
“At least this was informative,” Gree said, steepling his fingers.
Cooker had taken Draa’s uneaten dumpling and was, indeed, peeling off a thick film of fish oil. Both the three taste testers and the two captains watched in the sort of civil disgust and unholy fascination typical of natborns their chronological age, while Gett pretended disinterest.
Gree did his best to ignore it, but he was not immune to the inclinations of his inexperienced mind. “Dismissed, gentlemen,” he finally managed. “I’ll see you after the next supply run.”
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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Thank you so much for your lovely reply. I did a squee reading it would love to hear your plans and thoughts for the Uncomfortable-verse. Especially what changes this butterfly would make or what happens on the Agen-Tan-Padme guardian road-trip!
aaaaaaaah i'm vibrating i'm so glad you sent this ask! okay this is probably gonna be less coherent than my ao3 replies bc i have had. So Much Caffeine alsdjkflskdfjsd
under the cut because it got Long
(with a few minor clarifying edits now that I'm awake)
okay so like first of all the most important changes for me are what happens with anakin and shmi? i'm kind of thinking of sandwiching imi-verse in here where anakin's half-tusken and has a twin sister who was raised by their dad. also his sister and dad rescued his mom from the tusken marauders who grabbed her from the lars homestead and his dad was among the tuskens he killed after getting his mom down from the frame that was keeping her from dying.
so like shmi gets rescued and also gets away from cliegg (buying someone to free and marry them? hmmmm sounds sus to me) and reunited with her long lost daughter.
at the temple, anakin's conduct is reviewed and palpatine's all "clearly they hate you" but then the jedi find out anakin's been ducking his therapy appointments for years and hacking the system and mind-suggesting his therapist to keep obi-wan and the council from finding out. BIG HEKKIN RED FLAG. they keep Anakin at the temple for mandatory emergency therapy and send Obi-Wan and Aayla to Kamino while Quinlan keeps an eye on Anakin.
swapping padawans is just something that happens with jedi? like it's easier when obi-wan has someone to fuss over and knows someone he absolutely trusts is watching anakin. also just like??? accountability type things. you're not spending all your time with one master who might be Up To Bad Shit (qui gon) but you still have routine.
ANYWAYS obi gets a bad feeling in orbit above kamino and talks to aayla like "hey maybe you can do some of that spy stuff your master does" and then he goes in like he do like "oh that order of millions of identical human men". aayla runs into a very helpful clone trooper the same developmental age as her who doesn't know she's a jedi knight just that she works for them and has the fake identity credentials to back it up. it's bly, she runs into bly, who takes her on a paralell tour to the one the kaminoans are taking obi-wan on and she does her spy shit and scans the clone fetuses and finds!!! the chips! dun dun dun! but she can't find a lot except for that they exist and they're in a Not Good part of the brain.
obi-wan meets jango and shit goes down like normal except after he puts a tracking device on slave i aayla and bly come running out onto the platform like "uhhhh we have a Hekkin Problem" while obi's all like "no shit we do". obi goes to geonosis while aayla stays to figure out the chips and get things ready for yoda.
meanwhile! you asked about tan and agen and padme! they're doing just fine. there is no creepy looks or sly conversation about compassion and love or bad flirting about sand. padme and tan get along really super well and padme passes the time teaching him about makeup and hair and nubian fashion. sometimes she has jedi culture/philosophy questions and agen answers those a) not in a crowded food court when they're supposed to be undercover and b) like a teacher not like someone trying to impress and seduce her. when they get to naboo, agen isn't controlling about her security either. he defers to her and the systems she and the queen already have set up just like he did when establishing their undercover stories. he's there to help, not to take over.
they go to the lake country, they go on a picnic, agen teaches tan how to assess and repair shield generators and stuff, padme becomes agen's little sister and tan's big sister for pretty much real. they don't go to tatooine or to geonosis. a squad of clones DOES come to naboo to help agen and tan and they eventually name themselves Padma Squad after the same flower padme is named after.
obi wan sends his message to aayla to relay his distress call to the council since she's still his mission partner. bc padme would absolutely want to still be on geonosis if she knew it was happening even if anakin wasn't there and they weren't on tatooine. aayla sends the call to coruscant and yoda tells her he'll meet her on kamino to pick up the order of millions of identical human men just in case and would she please get them ready to go?
quinlan gets anakin's butt in gear to go save obi-wan and it's four jedi against dooku instead of one. anakin still kills dooku, but right then and after he's surrendered. this is important. all the other three jedi go "hey dude WHAT THE FUCK" and Anakin doesn't take that well and attacks them. this is the fight in which anakin loses his arm. it's quin who does it because anakin was about to use that arm to kill or seriously injure obi-wan. anakin is taken into custody, given medical care, and imprisoned in the temple's special cells.
palpatine bullies his way in to see him and he's all "i told you they would turn against you, they've always been jealous of and feared your power, i can free you and help you get revenge" and anakin is a sucker so he agrees. the grand inquisitor is still a temple guard and breaks anakin out and anakin goes on a jedi killing spree. palpatine keeps order 66 in his back pocket because he still wants to whittle down the order by the war and he still needs the everything else in place to take over the galaxy. this is important.
anakin is killed in the creche and the entire area has to be cleansed before the babies will stop crying. obi-wan leaves the order in his grief. padme offers him a quiet place to retire on naboo since he saved them from a sith ten years ago. she grieves the little boy she met on tatooine and what he could've become. she's the one who tracks down shmi to let her know. shmi grieves her son and clings to her daughter and partner.
the jedi and the clones go to war.
sidious gets a new apprentice, who i couldn't say yet. maybe he pulls komari vosa out of the ether? the 212th and 501st go under different jedi idk which ones yet. could be agen and quin, but also they're in the positions they are in canon (council investigator and undercover shadow, respectively) for good reasons, so most likely not. the 212th and 501st still get well known because cody and rex are exceptionally good at what they do. ahsoka is taken as quin's second padawan - aayla's little padawan-sister - and they most likely stay shadows but liaise often enough with the 501st that she still becomes their vod'ika. the clones grow as individuals and as a culture. when grievous is captured on naboo, he stays captured until palpatine finagles a daring escape with lots of collateral damage.
echo is blown up and captured at the citadel. umbara happens because the 501st is at the center of the action and krell is good at mindtricks and desperate to impress the sith. ahsoka and barriss aren't targeted for saboteur and framee because ahsoka isn't supporting the apprentice sidious wants. fives finds out about the chips. fives' general believes him about the chancellor and stops fox' blaster bolt in the air long enough for rex to stun fives (he's acting hella dangerous to himself and others) so they can smuggle him to kix.
palpatine finds out and triggers order 66 early.
there are more jedi. they were prepared after aayla and bly's discovery. didn't want to do risky brain surgery to get the chips out, couldn't find out what they were for, but knew it couldn't be anything good and they had to be prepared for the worst. almost all of them escape. clones aren't able to get inside the temple and clones already inside are quickly and non-lethally subdued. ahsoka is with rex and gets the chip out of his head in the middle of all the chaos. through usual fix-it shenanigans, something happens to rescind order 66 and something else happens to kill palpatine.
giddean danu becomes chancellor because i've always liked his design and i want a named, canon option that isn't bail, mon, or padme and feels like an actual good candidate vibes-wise. yarua also works, can you imagine being a separatist leader trying to fuck with a wookiee in negotiations? actually yeah that's funnier, danu can be vice-chancellor. mon runs but doesn't win, bail likes being a senator and doesn't want to be a chancellor, padme retires because canonically nubian senators are expected to have their people as their only family and - also canonically - she really wants a spouse and kids. also she fell for one of the coruscant guard (commander? hound? oc? who knows? but probably thorn, stone, or both (hmmmm jarjar/julia/stone and thorn/padme double dates there's a thought)) and doesn't want to ask them out as anything other than a fellow citizen.
echo is rescued by the bad batch and he and fives join them for a few last missions and then post-war shenanigans. after the war is officially over and the gar is officially disbanded and the clones are all officially citizens with military pensions and backpay, cody and rex join them. at some point, they run into boba who went back to kamino for some of jango's things and found an unaltered little sister and stole her. hunter immediately adopts them both.
and that is a lot more than i thought had for this au! ^_^ thank you for asking!!!! some of it was surprising to me, actually, esp the part about anakin still falling, but it feels True and Right and i'm definitely planning to keep it.
thank you again!! and thank you for the nice reviews you keep leaving me they're always a high point in my day ^_^
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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after almost six months of writer's block @reconstructwriter 's review on imi verse has resulted in an ending and an outline for the middle \o/
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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imi-verse? Anakin is half-tusken? I haven't heard of this (head) canon? Or is it Legends?
It's from my fic Imi!
I haven't been able to write more about it, but I do have Ideas. :3c
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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I love her forever
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A anthro Varactyl for @panther-os
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panther-os · 2 years ago
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good morning to everyone but especially @dragonladyzarz who has so far left me 32 likes, 3 reblogs, a follow, and 7 ao3 comments and who wrote three of my favorite tcw fics ever
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