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alwaysless · 20 days ago
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no, but listen, it's hilarious. kissed him, died in his arms, and then returned without remembering anything, leaving montresor to deal with all this shit alone. the peak of comedy. william, where is your shame. thank you. this is exactly what montresor deserves. sexual orientation crisis and unexplained psychological horror.
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they reminded me of this meme so I doodled them before bed lmao
pspspsp…Red and Flynn…montresor crashout when 👀?
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I love this
I swear if they are not endgame or don't end up together...
*breathes in* AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Willtresor is endgame
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That’s my first thought when I saw these two gaybies lol THEY LOOKED SO CUTE AND INNOCENT IN THE FIRST INTERACTION WHAT HAPPENED AHHH (well, here’s my theory)
Notice, Monty let Will have the seat while he stands, despite him thinking he’s the boss of Will :)
I really want to think that this:
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Was because they made promises to each other in the maze that when they get a second life, they’ll spend it together — cuz both don’t really have a reason to want a second life (I’M SORRY BUT IT’S TRUE THEIR LIVES SUCK, WILL HAS NO ONE WHO CARES ABOUT HIM AND MONTY JUST SLEEPS AROUND POINTLESSLY)
I think they literally made their first real friend and fought through the maze together with the intentions of getting a second life that they could spend with their new friend
Because why else would they want a second life if they’ll just continue their pointless life where they live then die again? they have a reason now to believe their life could be worth living because they have someone to spend it with
Monty’s outburst was because Will planted the ideas in his head that they could live together happily, so who should he get mad at when he finds out that will never happen? WILLIAM :))
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I’d like to think everything after that was Monty being defensive and not wanting to keep Will close anymore because they can’t have a life together anyway, and that’ll only hurt them both more
Him putting Duke behind a wall and picking fights with the misfits is because they can’t all have the second life
He doesn’t really want the life but he also doesn’t want to die, because religious trauma — he thinks he’ll go to hell for being the way he is, blah blah blah
If they all could have a second life, I think this will be Monty 24/7 hahaha:
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This was supposed to be a shitpost, that’s why the punctuations suck BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE AN ACTUALLY GOOD THEORY WHAT
ok, anyway, Willtresor fans, FEAST ON MY THEORY
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eternallymasked · 3 days ago
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I love this comic so much because of how many details it has like for example here if u take a closer look u can clearly see my heart shattering into a million pieces when Morty realized Will is not gonna make it 🧎🏽‍♀️😭
P.s. I don’t like montresor but this chapter was very interesting 🤔
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imfierylilac · 2 days ago
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Today I rewatched Beauty and the Beast, and since it's my favorite childhood movie, here's a little AU idea based on it.
Annabel as the Beast (Adam)
Lenore as Belle
Montresor as Gaston
Will as LeFou
Ada as one of Gaston's fangirl triplets
Morella as Mrs. Potts
Duke as Lumiere
Berenice as Madame de Garderobe
Eulalie as Fifi
Prospero as Forte
Pluto as Cogsworth
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majosullivan · 2 months ago
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What being in love with Montresor does to a motherfucker
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rychuart · 14 days ago
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just a silly little fella :)
edited- had to fix a few things LOL look at multiple refs when youre drawing folks
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small-bubs · 20 days ago
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Whenever Monty experiences genuine fear, confusion, or guilt, I jump into the air and click my heels together. I start clapping and go hip hip hooray!
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when your motivation DIED not even halfway into making the fanart so youre just left with whatever this is:
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someone please bully me into finishing this lmfao
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These fools make me SICK 💔🥀
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takescrackseriously · 20 days ago
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That's kinda gay Will
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It would end up awkward I guess-
More than anything I want Will and Eulalie to become best friends, but every conversation they have ends with Will getting impaled
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call-me-chips · 1 month ago
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Hey is this the first genuine nice thing he's said to Will??
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Like, the first reassurance/compliment that wasn't fake or sarcastic or half-assed???
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shashapato · 18 days ago
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Willtresor is endgame
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That’s my first thought when I saw these two gaybies lol THEY LOOKED SO CUTE AND INNOCENT IN THE FIRST INTERACTION WHAT HAPPENED AHHH (well, here’s my theory)
Notice, Monty let Will have the seat while he stands, despite him thinking he’s the boss of Will :)
I really want to think that this:
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Was because they made promises to each other in the maze that when they get a second life, they’ll spend it together — cuz both don’t really have a reason to want a second life (I’M SORRY BUT IT’S TRUE THEIR LIVES SUCK, WILL HAS NO ONE WHO CARES ABOUT HIM AND MONTY JUST SLEEPS AROUND POINTLESSLY)
I think they literally made their first real friend and fought through the maze together with the intentions of getting a second life that they could spend with their new friend
Because why else would they want a second life if they’ll just continue their pointless life where they live then die again? they have a reason now to believe their life could be worth living because they have someone to spend it with
Monty’s outburst was because Will planted the ideas in his head that they could live together happily, so who should he get mad at when he finds out that will never happen? WILLIAM :))
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I’d like to think everything after that was Monty being defensive and not wanting to keep Will close anymore because they can’t have a life together anyway, and that’ll only hurt them both more
Him putting Duke behind a wall and picking fights with the misfits is because they can’t all have the second life
He doesn’t really want the life but he also doesn’t want to die, because religious trauma — he thinks he’ll go to hell for being the way he is, blah blah blah
If they all could have a second life, I think this will be Monty 24/7 hahaha:
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This was supposed to be a shitpost, that’s why the punctuations suck BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE AN ACTUALLY GOOD THEORY WHAT
ok, anyway, Willtresor fans, FEAST ON MY THEORY
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blacknedsoul-blog · 20 days ago
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Montresor (and Willtresor) is the Bad Ending of the White Raven IV: the saga continues
Okay, now that these chapters have been released I can talk about this issue. I must say that this twist has been just the way I like twists: no, the surprising thing is not that it happened, but that, when you look back, it not only makes sense, it also recontextualizes some little things that stick around.
A person who is not there
There's one thing that's cross-cutting to these four idiots: they're absolutely desperate for someone to look at them. And when you think about it, it kind of makes sense: Lenore has lost the one person who seemed to even slightly care about her and locked up like an animal, Annabel is a hypocrite so terrified of being perceived as crazy that she's a breath away from collapse, Will is the kind of guy who blends in with the walls to such an extent that hardly anyone remembers his face, and Montresor has been seen as an devil since fucking birth.
However, the fine line that separates the Annabel/Will and Lenore/Montresor duo is drawn into something quite complicated: who are on the edge of the abyss and who can't fall any lower.
Both Montresor and Lenore, for different reasons, are trapped in inescapable situations: Montresor will never be anything more than a shit-talking charlatan in anyone's eyes and Lenore will die before she shakes off the label of a madwoman.
Then, they come along. These two people who have not only been able to look them in the eye, they are also people in whom they can see themselves reflected: a weak pushover who can't fend for himself and a lady who is one mental health slip away from being put in a straitjacket.
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They have been that person. And their desperate cries for help have never been answered.
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But this time may be different. If Lenore and Montresor can save Annabel and Will, in a way, they are also saving themselves. A 50/50 between a selfless motivation and a huge reassertion of one's own ego.
Which leads to the first difference.
Where Lenore offers Annabel a deal on equal terms, a “you and me against the world, baby”; Montresor has with Will a relationship based on subordination: it is he who must take care of Will and, thus, Will is beneath him.
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What Annabel and Will understand from the arrangements of this deal are two very different things: where Annabel must live up to the extraordinary person that Lenore is in order to accompany her on equal terms, Will must make sure that he is a weak individual that Montresor can take care of and mistreat in order to feel superior when necessary.
This is not a problem for either of them because there is one little thing that Annabel and Will are able to mold as if it were plasticine: their identity.
Fragmented identities
These scenes have exactly the same purpose.
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And I absolutely love them for that.
But let's take them one at a time.
Both Annabel and Will are two invisible people who at least feel like they've been saved by their favorite person. Lenore is Annabel's knight in shining armor and Montresor is the bad boy capable of moving forward despite everything that Will longs for.
They love them. And they need them.
Because Annabel is just a pretty accessory incapable of thinking outside the golden cage she's lived in all her life. And Will is incapable of thinking for himself because he doesn't want to deal with the responsibility of doing so.
So they build this perfect mask to please their special people. A carefully chiseled mask tailored to be loved based on what they believe their special person wants from them.
In both scenes, Annabel and Will have their world fall apart as they realize that the mask they have created for their loved one is not only unwanted, but viewed with disgust and contempt. So the mask slips for an instant to reveal what lies beneath only for their special people. But to very different ends and consequences.
Annabel drops her self-imposed role as unbeatable queen, begins to cry her eyes out, has a panic attack and even -to Lenore's surprise and horror- comes to doubt that she is loved. She is far from living up to the role she should have: she is scared, lonely and, from her reaction, probably doesn't even want to do this.
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Of course, Lenore swoops in to comfort her because her beloved damsel in distress is in a vulnerable moment. But all it takes is for Lenore to suggest that Annabel can approach other people for the unbeatable queen to come back: even pushing her to the limit hasn't gotten her to get what's really going on out of her. And after Annabel would rather have Duke and Pluto throw her off a balcony than allow Lenore to reveal herself as a traitor to her friends, it is definite that Lenore has lost this battle: she has already exhausted all her options which have ranged from pleading, to loving words and, in this scene, to verbal violence. The unbeatable queen is in a place where she can't reach her and any future attempts will only succeed in putting the two of them in a more complicated situation.
On the other hand, Will has a small moment of vulnerability with Montresor, giving her this little speech that works as a confession: this confusion about whether he wants him or wants to be him is, as I read in some places, a fairly common situation among gay men. Before he dies, he ends up stealing Montresor a kiss.
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But all this has been nothing more than to see his reaction. Because Will is not dead. Not at all.
Although he's put his feelings on the table, he doesn't seem to expect Montresor to return his affection. Just knowing that he cares seems to be enough for the moment, because he plays dumb after it all happens. But Will's made it pretty clear that he is capable of an enormous level of manipulation and that he works with a subtlety that even Annabel couldn't dream of.
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Now that they've gotten a peek at what's beneath the masks, Lenore and Montresor find themselves trapped with monsters of their own creation that they are unable to comprehend: Lenore can't even fathom why Annabel continues to do this despite how much she's suffering and Montresor doesn't even know what Will's intentions really are.
Kind of deliciously ironic because didn't Lenore want her partner in crime? Didn't Montresor want his little mutt to fight a little?
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Weren't they the ones who wanted to be their number one?
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And, as the icing on the cake, they are alone in this, because the monsters they have created only let them get close. Everyone else in the world has been fooled by Annabel and Will's perfect masks, so if they wanted to (or even could) tell anyone about this absolutely no one would believe them.
Even if Lenore wanted to convince her friends that Annabel isn't a homicidal maniac, it's virtually impossible for them to believe her after what happened with Duke. And Montresor can't even begin to explain what Will did.
Love and control
Here I need to stir up the duos a bit.
Montresor and Annabel are not only blonde charlatans with parental problems, they have also learned to relate to the world in terms of control: they protect themselves by moving others around like pieces to get them to do what they want (at least in Nevermore, Annabel in life would not have been able to do these things as far as we know).
Where Annabel puts herself at the center of the board as a queen, Montresor is all about pissing off everyone around him because that's the only way he feels seen.
But they are not the ones with the upper hand in their relationship.
Will and Lenore have demonstrated by actions -we can't be sure in Lenore's case it's a conscious thing- that they are capable of giving all the affection, security, and loyalty if they get what they want from Montresor and Annabel.
It's hard to know what Will wants from Montresor at this point, but he seems quite content for his bad boy to remain his bad boy who has something resembling a soft side to him. In Lenore's case, this waltz between having doki dokis every time Annabel exists around her and being absolutely furious seems to be tied up in her desire to have Annabel by her side: when Annabel plays queen and walks away, pushing Lenore away from whatever is going on; she immediately becomes wary or, at worst, aggressive; but is caring and responsive when Annabel shows a vulnerable side.
This ends up generating a funny situation where the relationship between Montresor and Will is more functional than Lenore and Annabel's because there is one side subordinate to the other: Will has Montresor by the balls, but lets himself be mistreated; while Annabel refuses to put Lenore's desires above the danger they are both in (and even refuses to tell her what the fuck is going on).
Conclusions
Okay, I have to admit that I have been a bit dramatic in some parts of this essay and I have to rectify that so that you are not left with the wrong idea.
The first (and most obvious) thing is that it looks like Annabel is going to get to have honest relationships beyond Lenore. Of course, her friendship with Ada and Prospero can't really begin until the “allies till battle royale do them part” deal is dissolved and she's confronted for putting them both in a sticky situation. That yes, they signed up to be allies of the Machiavellian mastermind, but to Caesar what is Caesar's: no real friendship will form here until those bumps are crossed.
And speaking of Annabel, if there's one person who has a microscopic chance of believing Montresor the fucked up shit Will has done, it's possibly Annabel. My only argument is this:
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Like, she doesn't say Will is harmless, she says isolation makes him pliable. And although she is underestimating him and not knows Will is a threat, but maybe she'd be willing to think Montresor isn't crazy if she finds out what happened.
Another point is the conclusion she ended up coming to in all these trials: the line that separates things is drawn on who has their heart in the right place and who doesn't. So, where Montresor is terrified of Will while Will holds a threat over Montresor's head, neither Lenore nor Annabel is afraid that the other might hurt them. And while we don't know what Lenore's feelings are about how she's been treating Annabel in some respects (this for the date I've uploaded this essay), if her face in this scene and the little spoiler that was uploaded to tumblr tell us one thing: It's that the answer is probably guilt. Let's see what comes out of that.
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Finally, there's one not too nice thing I'd like to say about when I saw spoilers from the fast pass. Okay, I know this comic is moving at a snail's pace and that while it's been a few days for the characters, this chapter came out like fifty weeks ago. But people, with all my love: I want you to see the difference between Ada and Will's reactions in this scene. Ada is obviously uncomfortable and guilty; while Will has an “upsi” face.
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And when Lenore confronts him, Will has the face to complaining that he is scared. He at no point in this confrontation shows a single shred of real remorse.
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I know there are people who have been through abusive relationships who have identified with Will and I don't mean to go on to bring that up. But what these scenes raised at the time is that there is something off about this guy, something that should give you a bad feeling because his behavior doesn't fit that of a person who has been forced to do something terrible.
Another thing I've seen someone point out at the time is that Will feels different in his character presentation and has been getting more pathetic as we see him more screen time. We now know that he has been learning how to behave.
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Add to that that his reaction is the only one we don't see when it's revealed that there's only a second life available and we only see it when Montresor shakes him. But he doesn't seem particularly affected beyond the chaos that's going on around him.
All these little things keep telling you that there's something wrong with Will. And what Chapter 120 does, is show you what the thing that didn't add up was: what we've been seeing so far is a mask worn by a much more twisted individual and, now that we know that, we can start to figure out who he is and what he really wants.
This, people, is William Willson in all his glory. And Will turns out not to be the protagonist, but the doppelganger tormenting him. I don't remember who said that theory, but: you were absolutely right.
Anyway, this has gotten long. Thank you very much for making it this far.
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