#netwitcher spoilers

[bestestpotato]

all I wanted were some uncle eskel crumbs and what did I get??? 5 minutes of "eskel" being a fucking dick and then turning into groot before Geralt kills him and they feed his body to a bunch of dogs.

[starszakrew-a3]

okay let’s actually talk about the horsewoman of death. minor spoilers for the witcher s1 + the books

death follows ciri. its a fact. it isn’t her fault, and she never wanted it, but it does. the razing of cintra, the murder of the rats, the hansa, pavetta, vessemir. yen and geralt.

death always has and very probably always will follow ciri

‘Yes, we are dead. But you are death.’ 

‘You bring terror and you bring death. Wherever you are!’

no matter how hard she tries, she will never be able to escape the guilt she feels for bringing about death to those she loves

strangers, her grandmother’s subjects, her grandmother, her biological mother and more all died to save ciri

where ciri treads death tends to follow

she will never not cry for them

she will Always feel guilty that she lived while hundreds, if not thousands died during men’s conquests to possess her

[bestestpotato]

no I agree. the way they were taking his character it was a kindness to kill him off. I just wonder why they had to write him in in the first place if they didn’t like him or his characterization in the books. why not just invent a new character for this. I just don’t understand.

unpopular (?) opinion but I'm glad they killed off Eskel, idk if I could have dealt with this version of his character much longer. I love this man and the actor was cute, but the version of the character just wasn't it...

[scaip]

Long post of me complaining about The Witcher season 2: (spoilers ahead)

- My issue with The Witcher is the way they wanted to adapt Yennefer's role (a seconsary character for the saga), give her depth and protagonism... By villifying her.

That whole shit of her losing her powers? It's established sorceresses do stuff to their bodies. It never happens in the books. One thing is the warning she gives to Ciri about using fire magic (Ciri is new! She has no idea, she is a novate), another is to use Yennefer's plotline to foreshadow Ciri's.... It doesn't make sense. Many wizards in the books use fire magic. Sure, there is a lot of inconsistency in the universe rules, but one thing is what trained adults do and an entirely different thing is what Yennefer teaches Ciri.

That Baba Yaga thing never appeared in the books. Yennefer would never trade a child for powers... They made a disaster. Sure, her relationship with Geralt was toxic, but that's a world without therapists and it's strongly hinted Yennefer suffers from a mental disorder, she is not a power-hugry villanous bitch that lacks empathy.

- That Nightmare of the Wolf movie fucked all up. Netflix felt like creating an expanded universe, messed up the books' timeline and added lore from their spin-off to the series

When Kaer Morhen fell, Geralt was out in the world, doing his witcher work. Not everything happened just at the same time he was there. It was an event unrelated to his work, just because he is the protagonist doesn't mean EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED TO HIM. One of the things that made the fall of Kaer Morhen so real was the fact that the world kept moving and independent events happened. In the books we never learned much about it, outside of the fact The School of the Wolf was dying.

- What happened to the other witcher schools???! Netflix, you want your money. There's potential to exploit, the school of the wolf wasn't the only one in the continent. Did they want witcher drama? Then adapt the other schools, too!

The Snake? The Cat school? If you read the books you'd know Ciri had an affinity with the later.

- WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO ESKELL?

- They completely ruined Francesca's character. If she ever had children in the books, then it wasn't a thing that received focus. Francesca is this royal Karen plotter that already had the information she wanted about the Elder Blood and knew very well about the eugenesical shit the wizards put the line of Cintra too. Bro, she was there!! Francesca, in the books, is a sorceress with a loose grasp in morality that behaved like Aslan when he told the Witch He Was Present when the Magic Was Written.

What is that artificial friendship they tried to force with Fringilla? It's an awful example of white feminism. Man, Francesca is not an idiot. And the baby murder spree? So. Much. Narm.

- The series is going out of their way to cover the fact Filgevortz is one of the main villains, already working for Nilfgaard, yet they don't mind revealing the spoiler that the emperor is Ciri's Dad, villifying Yennefer, turning Francesca into a emotional disaster to "humanize" her, and screwing Cahir and Fringilla's characters.

- Cahir!!!! What did they do to him?????

He was one of my favourite characters. He was supposed to be close to Ciri in age, not that creepy-looking adult (this is not an insult to the actor, dude be there doing his job, which is performing what he is told to).

I... Just can't. He was so human, so anthropologically interesting from my point of view. The Otherness. His support of Milva. His willingness to change after meeting this true companions.

- Fringilla??? She only appeared in the later books, and while she fought in the war, that was because the Nilfgaardian state doesn't look at wizards with kind eyes and she thought it was some civilization-bringing advance. She was your upper class John Smith or Karen, privileged and nosy, not a full-blown mad religious fanatic. That Diabolous Ex Machina backstory for her? Just unnecessary drama.

This is giving me Code Geass and GoT Flashbacks

-Stregobor???? He was only a minor character in a short story?? Why do they give him so much protagonism????? Why does he keep appearing????? It sucks

They can't show us the fact Ciri and Geralt already knew each other in the books (and that's how they recognized each other!!! TALK ABOUT PLOT HOLES), yet find time to add some Baba-Yaga Expy, put on witcher drama, Vesemir trying to desperately convert Ciri?? Why does Istredd keep showing up??? (He was another secondary character, like Stregobor). What is what elven drama??? They never showed the Squirrells??? The fucking resistance???

[bookcalanthedaily]

Apparently Vesemir is lowkey abusive(?) towards the other witchers and Ciri wanted to go through the trial of the grasses, which he agreed to do. He'd never do that in the books wtf, wasn't it established that some children of surprises don't even need to go through the trials? Might be misremembering tho

Yes and no girl ever survived the trail of grasses. it was also not certain how the elder blood would react with the mutations. either way, neither geralt nor vesemir would ever agree to put ciri through the trials, especially after the conversation geralt had with calanthe about them.

anyway yikes.

[inmydrcams]

swallow!

[starszakrewsaysbye]

okay so fire magic being forbidden was obviously a set up for the cliffhanger at the end of season one but they really committed to it so if fire magic is “forbidden” now then how is ciri going to draw from fire to save Ihuarraquax and loose her sorcery 

[zagubionywilk]

just a note with some things:   i’m going to    tag extensively    show anything that comes through me so people who are adamantly against the show entirely and don’t plan in partaking can ignore or not see it.   i’m well aware that some don’t vibe with it and i’m considerate of that and are tagging not just spoilers but the whole shebang as well.   spoilers will be tagged for    two months    probably whereas the rest will have netflix specific tw tags til the end of time lmfao.   

spoiler    and    netwitcher tags are as follows to blacklist or whatever you wish to do now:    netwitcher tw,   netwitcher spoilers tw,   twn tw,   twn spoilers tw but if anyone else has    specific tags they want me to tag    please let me know so i can accommodate    !!    thank you.

[bestestpotato]

so I’m on episode 4 now and I still don’t understand why they decided to do that with eskel?? Like what purpose did that serve other than having that scene with the wolves??? Or this completely unnecessary parallel of Vesemir as a dad figure & Geralt as a dad figure?? What was the point???

And why the fuck were there prostitutes at Kaer Morhen???? What is going on??

[bestestpotato]

i need someone to make a compilation of the best eskel moments in the books to celebrate him because my heart is in fucking shambles and I have never been so upset in my life

[bestestpotato]

WHY?????

[starszakrew-a3]

lioness and lion cub right there

[bestestpotato]

I can’t wait for Lauren to introduce another throw-away character next season that is gonna call out Eskel‘s death being ridiculous and have this character be mocked by one of the mains cause clearly she doesn’t give a fuck about Witcher fans who are critical of her adaptation and have a deep love for the source material.

[starszakrew-a3]

as much as i hate that they didn’t explain the timeline in the show i do like how it was set up

[starszakrew-a3]

also if people are still cool w emhyr after watching the witcher and not just hearing about how fucking disgusting he is from people please get yourself help

[starszakrewsaysbye]

i can’t wait for a non human to sing toss a coin to your witcher while stabbing geralt with a pitchfork when netwitcher ends