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I am once again on my Final Space bullshit. Working on a Quinnary thing BUT
Dang. Remember that time whenever Little Cato was finna try to get revenge and Gary Leroy Jenkinsed his ass through the thang and damn near crashed into him? 😭😭😭 Gary was on that bullshit for that 😂 Po Lil’ Little Cato.
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I keep thinking about the fact that in Final Space, during the opening credits - in season 1, everyone was there, fighting alongside Gray. In season 2, Gary's moving forward and the rest of the team gradually joins him along the way (and the team is modified of course, because he doesn't have Quinn if Avocato, so they aren't there like they'd been before.
Then in 3, it's just Gary the whole time, spinning, seemingly out of control and we've already lost a couple of the crew so far and stand to lose another soon. Like.. is Gary gonna be alone? Does it not mean anything and I'm troubling myself for nothing?
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Exactly this. Exactly all of this. I've been in shambles.
Yo I’m upset... olan said this season was gonna upset us but like... I’m upset
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POST FINALE HENRY DANGER OPINIONS TAG
thank u for the tag @henrydangerismymiddlename I got my laptop out for this lol
it’s 3am so bear with
copy and paste the following questions and answer with as much detail as you want and when you’re done tag at least 2 other blogs to do the same, let’s go!
Who was your overall favourite member of Team Danger and why? it’s a toss up between Henry and Charlotte if im completely honest. I always love the girl character in everything and Charlotte was everything I wanted but I also always loved Henry coz he was one of the only main characters I've ever found likeable in a show before
Who was your favourite non-team danger character and why? Mary Debbie Gaberman because she was funny and put up with Trent’s shit
Who was your favourite villain and why? Rick Twittler. he was the most non cartoony. villain and he did some of the most damage to the characters
What were your top five favourite Henry Danger episodes of all time and why? broken armed and dangerous-comedy, scream machine-that ending lmao, I dream of danger-chenry, massage chair-the drama of it all & car trek-idk
What were your top five least favourite Henry Danger episodes of all time and why? captain mom coz ew, and idk their names but the one where Henry cheated on those girls, the one where he and jasper fight over that girl, sick and wired coz that was ray’s shitty turning point & jam session coz that bet was fucked
What was your favourite running gag and why? hmmmm and repeat what they said an henry’s im in a band pick up line
What was your favourite one-off throw away gag and why? when they actually respected Charlotte (wish it came up more tho :(
What episode, which character and which duo made you laugh the most? scream machine esp when I was younger coz it feels like it was filmed at 3am, Henry with his dumbassery & Charlotte and schwoz as a duo like when they were doing smart stuff or in swellview’s got talent
How would you rank each season from 1 to 5, one being the best and five being the worst? one-4, two-2, three-3, four-4 & five-2/5 depending on ray’s behaviour
Who was your favourite duo in the show (romantic or non-romantic)? romantic- chenry & nonromantic- Charlotte/schwoz
What was your favourite Henry and Ray moment/episode? all the times when they argued on missions I just found it funny esp when it was like about flying the mancopter etc.
What was your favourite Chenry moment/episode? I dream of danger, that one bit in budget cuts&mr nice guy, when they used to yell at the same time
What was your favourite Hensper moment/episode? the episode were jasper finds out was v cute
What was your favourite Chensper moment/episode? massage chair/the finale/end scene of captain drex
If you could go back and change one element of the show, what would it be? the treatment of Charlotte/when ray got shit
If you could say one thing to each main character in the pilot, what would it be? SCHOOL COMES FIRST, FRIENDS SECOND AND WORK LAST
If you could say one thing to each main character in the finale, what would it be? nice hair and outfits guys, also you did good
Were you satisfied with the finale? What part was your favourite and what part was your least favourite? I was. i loved the trio’s ending but I would have maybe liked a better piper farewell idk. also I get why they let kid danger stay dead I just think that after all that time he deserved recognition also so do charlotte and schwoz even if it wouldn't really work
What would your ideal Henry danger spin off look like? a teen rated dystopia spinoff of the trio fighting crime vigilante style with habit of chenry also get jasper a boyfriend
Where do you personally see the characters 10 years from now? What are they doing, who are they with, where are they in their lives - what do you think happened to them? Most importantly, are they happy? I think the trio will still be fighting crime together well into their twenties/ thirties, piper has started a successful company and ray and schwoz are still running the school. Mary has her own talkshow
What was your favourite part of the show and why did it initially draw you in? you guys are gonna HATE me for this but growing up I kinda had a crush on Henry that tries to make an appearance every now and then so that paired with me watching all dan scheider’s shows was mainly it
What was your favourite part of the fandom and why did it initially draw you in? THE PEOPLE everyone here is awesome like nesha, Nikki, umana, shona, lou and lizzie. I joined coz tumblr is my go to site and after reading nesha’s chenry So...? series and stalking everyones blogs I made one of my own
Describe your overall emotions/feelings regarding the show being over and the show in general, looking back on it as a whole, with one quote from the show “feel’s good”
If you were able to add one scene in the finale, what would you add? a group hug
Favorite outfit/hair style? jasper’s crop top will forever be iconic and charlotte’s space buns in cave the date
One twist: when you answer this for yourself, add one new question at the end for the next person to answer. Remember to tag at least two people so we can get this around the whole fandom so everyone can have their proper goodbye! And feel free to do this even if you don’t get tagged, I want to see how everyone feels!
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Side by Side. Chapter 7: Challenger
King Liam x Rayne (MC): With new additions to their family, Rayne and Liam re-evaluate their relationship dynamic.
Disclaimer: Most characters are the property of Pixelberry studios. I am just borrowing them and will return them when I am done.
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Special appearance by @hopefulmoonobject as Clair, thanks Nesha!
The door flew open and she entered with a twisted smile. She breathed hard at the speed of her coming and a sense of foreboding came over Liam.
“What is it Madeline? I have things to do” the last couple of weeks had been particularly trying with his ‘wife’ and Liam had all but given up on propriety. It wasn’t as if she exercised any in return. For example, rather than reply, Madeline went to the small television screen along one side of his office and started to switch between channels.
“You have to watch this” she said, still looking at the screen, “there” it was a news reporter with an American accent, and though he was not keen to entertain Madeline he stood and put down his work, coming around the desk to see the screen better. Madeline was much too happy about this, which filled him with dread. He narrowed his gaze at her for a moment before switching his focus to the reporter who sat before a picture of the New York City skyline.
“Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen! For those of you just joining us, we have just been joined by a special guest, Genevieve O’Mara. Along with being fixture in the New York legal scene, some of you may also know of Genevieve’s daughter and only child, Joanna Rayne Stevens, currently residing in Cordonia” a photo of Rayne in her old waitress outfit comes on to the screen, “Rayne is the mistress of recently married King Liam, we have a photo of the wedding here” Liam clenched his fists tight and tried to ignore the satisfied smirk on Madeline’s face as a picture of the two of them outside the Basilica filled the screen. It zoomed in to the corner of the screen where Rayne was smiling with Olivia and Leo, “so Genevieve, we have been wondering for a while now, what happened there? How does a young woman like Rayne, who surely has so much more to offer the world, end up as just ‘the other woman’ to a European monarch?”
Genevieve sat in a chair opposite the reporter, the same sweet smile on her face as when he had met her last year.
“Please Richard, call me Gen” she looked from the reporter to the camera, “my beautiful baby Rayne, who I have not seen in months, is a strong woman. It breaks my heart that she is being used in this way. I only hope that with enough support, we can liberate her from the grasp of the king” Liam stared at the screen, heart sinking, he could feel how much Madeline was enjoying Genevieve’s discreditation of her own daughter.
“Are you saying that King Liam is holding her against her will?”
“As I said, I raised my daughter to be strong. I was surprised that she was not there beside me after the passing of my son, two years ago, but I attributed it to her needing her own space” Genevieve wiped a tear from her eye and Liam’s compassion battled with anger at the blatant lie, “understandably, it is likely that Ray was still in a vulnerable place when she travelled to Cordonia, and I’m sure the king made her a good offer” Liam felt Madeline’s gaze on him and ensured his concern was well checked, “I can only think of one other reason that my daughter would allow herself to be manipulated like this, but it is difficult to see how it could be the only reason she has stayed…” Liam held his breath.
The door opened again, and he looked up to see Rayne come in, her expression transitioning quickly from panicked to polite as she registered Madeline.
“You’re just in time Joanna” Rayne’s facade faltered for a moment at the use of her first name before she drew herself up to her full height and nodded.
“Good afternoon, Your Majesties” she came around to stand between them and Liam took her hand and squeezed it briefly.
“Good afternoon Rayne” he said softly as they turned back to the screen just in time.
“So what you’re saying is that the reason we haven’t seen your daughter out in public recently is that she’s pregnant?”
“Oh my god...” Rayne put a hand over her mouth and stumbled backwards to the lounge on the other side of the room. Liam followed her, steadying her gait and holding her hand when she was seated. Madeline had barely glanced at them.
“Exactly. I have the transcript of the last phone call we had where she indicated as much-”
“Turn it off” Liam looked determinately towards Madeline, who still held the remote. She raised an eyebrow at him.
“-so all I can ask is Rayne, if you’re watching-”
“Turn it off Madeline. Now” his tone was commanding, they had heard more than enough. Beside him Rayne’s breathing was shallow and quick, her gaze still fixed on the screen
“-you know that I love you, don't let this man be-” Madeline switched off the television and turned to face the two of them.
“You need to put together a statement husband, this won't take long to become cancerous to your rule. Our people will need answers” Liam reminded himself to remain calm, if not for his sake then for Rayne’s.
“I am well aware of this Madeline. Now leave us” she didn't get a polite request. She had earned the opposite.
“We need to work on this together, and we need to do it soon” she was challenging him. It wouldn't get her far.
“I will take care of it, leave us” Rayne was still silent, she hadn't been well in the last few days and she was too pale as she stared at the screen. When Madeline moved towards the desk he stood to intercept, squaring his shoulders and looking hard at her, “that was not a request Madeline”
“You cannot force me to go” she said coldly.
“Yes, I can. You were not born a monarch Madeline, you married one. You do not have the final say, I do. Leave us” Madeline stared at him, and it gave him some satisfaction to see her struggling with herself before she smiled.
“Be wary of where you lay your threats, darling. I will draft a response” she put the remote down and finally headed out the door.
As soon as she was gone he locked the door behind her and rushed to Rayne’s side. She looked up at him.
“I can't believe she would do that” she said. Her breathing was returning to normal and she stood up slowly.
“It doesn't matter now. We will deal with it, it will be fine” she frowned at him.
“Liam they're implying that you're keeping me here against my will. Even if I go out there now, you're still going to be under fire from the press. They won't let this go easily”
“We will be fine my love, I will be fine. Do not worry yourself further on my behalf” he needed her to believe him, needed her to take some of the pressure off her shoulders, “and in any case, we had planned to make a statement about the pregnancy in only a few days now that we are out of danger, we will explain that, we will be fine. I promise” he gathered Rayne in his arms and held her close. She didn't relax, she hadn't in days.
“I'm worried for what this means for you”
Rayne walked quickly into the quiet cafe and lit up when she saw her friend sitting at a corner table. Quickly she moved over, and Clair stood up just in time to receive a tight hug. "I'm so sorry I'm late, I honestly didn't think I'd have to take a back entrance... the press have been so persistent lately" she puts down her bag and takes off her heavy coat, sitting down and schooling a warm smile. So expertly had she cultivated that smile that she didn't even think about it anymore, "how have you been?" Clair smiled as she sat back down.
“I am good, Rayne, it is so good to see you” it was refreshing to hear a New York accent, she wasn’t sure she had a very strong one anymore. Clair tented her fingers and rested her elbows on the table between them, and Rayne felt like she was under a microscope as she waited for her friends conclusion, “now, how are you really doing” she smiled again.
"I'm really well. We've been working on a development for Valtoria, it's an unclaimed duchy, it's been fun, but Liam has been putting in a lot of work" Rayne pulled out her phone and smiled at a picture of Liam with Evie and Leo. There was about an hour and a half before she needed to get back. Looking up she saw Clair peering at her phone.
“Rayne you have a beautiful family” she smiled fondly, “so those are my godchildren? Cannot wait to meet them, and I have some time, I can help where ever you need me too. the letter I got said that you needed my help” Rayne froze.
“What?” Clair continued as if nothing she had said was out of the ordinary.
“Honestly I am kinda worried about you”
“No, wait, what letter?” her friend frowned.
“I got a letter and plane ticket that said you needed back-up, don't know who it was from, but I heard that mommy dearest is here so I came as soon as I could” she frowned, “can you tell me what is really going on, but maybe not here, there are too many ears” Rayne stared at her. It was one thing for her to get in touch, another entirely for someone to have called her over. She scanned her friends for who would be the most likely to have contacted Clair. Drake... surely it was him… Clair eyed her with some concern.
“Rayne don't be mad, I have always said if you need me, I would come running, but we both know you are too stubborn for your own good” "Okay" her polite facade was natural to her now, it had been tested enough, "let's go up to the palace. You can meet your godchildren" Clair reached across the table and squeezed her hand.
“I am here because I love you, you are my best friend. you deserve the world” she grinned, “but I need to spoil some babies”
"I..." swallowing hard, Rayne gathered her things and nodded, "come on then" her old smile took over her face, a vulnerable smile that showed too many emotions, "let me show you my home"
“Lead, the way! A palace wow, this will be interesting” Rayne laughed. "That's one way to put it"
The entire drive there Rayne watched nervously as her friend peered out at the city and the route to the palace. She wanted Clair to approve of her new home but was also worried of what had been in that letter, and what her intentions were.
“Okay, Rayne, I can feel you thinking, What is it? What do you want to know?” Clair smiled at her friend, grabbing her hand and giving her a reassuring squeeze.
Rayne was momentarily surprised at the question. Not many people really asked her how she was very often. Liam was there every day, but her other friends weren’t, and though Regina occasionally came by she was more interested in the twins than in Rayne herself. It was something she was accustomed to, but she turned away to think of an answer, because anything she said her friend would see right through. She sighed.
“I was wondering what was in the letter that you received. And also… what you think of my home” she offered a weak smile, then turned to look out the window again. How did her friend bring out the most vulnerable side of her? One she thought didn’t exist anymore.
“Rayne, I have to ask something first, and I ask that you answer me, no bullshit. I you completely happy here?” she answered without hesitation.
“I am, Clair. Overall, I am” she smiled as the car stopped and again as someone opened the door for her, suddenly self-conscious about the way she was treated by the staff. As soon as she stepped out of the car her defences were firmly back in place and she breathed a sigh of relief and turned to see her friend getting out behind her, “ready to meet your godchildren?”
“You mean spoil them, so they love me more than you? Absolutely.” Rayne smiled at her friend, it was a polite smile, but there was genuine appreciation behind it.
“Come on then” she started to lead the way around to her preferred entrance.
“PS, when we are not in front of people, please let me see my friend, flaws and all. Miss that girl” Clair whispered, “I am here to help, I will always have your back.”
“I know that” Rayne smiled politely at the doorman who let them inside and nodded to him, “thank you” before turning back to Clair, “I missed you as well” her friend was smiling at the doorman.
“Hi, I am Rayne’s oldest friend, so if you need any scoop on her, well I cannot help you,” he tried not to smile as Clair followed her friend through the halls.
“Are you going to say that to all the…” Rayne frowned momentarily as she heard footsteps coming from the furthest room, then closed her eyes and took a deep breath, resuming her polite smile. Just who she had hoped to avoid, “good afternoon, Your Majesty” she bowed her head as Madeline approached them, surveying Clair disapprovingly.
“Rayne, shouldn’t you be with your children? As far as I was aware they were the only things you cared about” there was slightly more malice in her voice than usual. As expected, Clair didn’t wait for an introduction.
“Hello, your Majesty, I am Clair Raymonds, I believe we have a meeting in a couple of months, I am a Human Rights Officer, within the UN, and we have you slated to speak about children at risk of exploitation” she smiled at Madeleine, but Rayne knew it was the smile reserved for being was deliberately disrespectful.
“Of course, Miss Raymonds” Madeline barely blinked, “I have the memo on my desk, but I did not expect you to be in the royal wing, and without a proper escort. Lady Rayne does not spend much time out of her apartments” her polite smile sent a shiver down Rayne’s spine, but she didn’t move a muscle.
“Well, your Majesty, it is truly remarkable how increasingly small our world is. Lady Rayne and I have been friends since we were seven. Even college roommates. So when I found out that I was now a godmother, well I dropped everything to come and meet them. Those things, as you put it are the reason, that I am here. And I look forward to getting to know them and your beautiful country better.” Madeline smiled.
“Indeed. We must hope that no ill-fate befalls Lady Rayne” she glanced at her watch, “I am afraid that I will have to leave you. I have a council meeting in less than an hour and need to retrieve a document from my husband, the King” she smirked at Rayne, but she had heard that so many times before that externally it didn’t appear to affect her.
“Give Liam my best, Madeline, if you would be so kind” Rayne smiled, knowing that in no way would that make it back to Liam, who at this time in any case would almost be back.
“It was my pleasure to have met you, Your Majesty, hopefully by the time we see you at the conference, I will have got the council to accept you for one of our chair positions. It would be a great privilege for your small country” still Clair maintained that smirk.
“It would be indeed. I look forward to your favourable observations” she brushed past them and down an adjoining hall towards Liam’s office. Rayne turned to Clair with a strained smile and started to lead them towards her rooms, eager to get back to Leo and Evie.
“So, that was one of our Monarchs, what did you think?” meeting Madeline, especially unexpectedly, was always draining.
“I think I am glad, I am here. Rayne, I will play nice for your sake, but what the HELL? ‘Ill-fate befalls Lady Rayne’, I don’t think that basic …. sorry, my mother told me not to speak ill of the dead” Clair chuckled “but that is a demon”
Despite herself, Rayne laughed, “only towards me and company, which I can deal with” she stopped outside her door and grinned, the unpleasant interaction rolling off her, “are you ready to meet them?”
“Umm yes!!! Open the door already. You are the worst at making me wait for my surprises” Clair laughed.
Rayne rolled her eyes as she opened the door and gestured for her friend to enter, “please be slightly less excitable when you meet them? Come on”
“I will try, but you know how much I love babies, they are cute with their chubby cheeks.” she looked at Rayne, “Ok, I will try, but it isn’t every day you find out you are the godmother to Royal heirs”
“How could I forget your niece? The poor girl is scarred for life” Rayne grinned and led her friend to the nursery. Jackie, the nanny that she finally agreed to, smiled when she met them in the hallway.
“Hey, that was her other Aunt.” Clair protested in regard to her relative.
“You can keep telling yourself that” she turned her smile to Jackie, who greeted them with her warm, motherly smile.
“Good afternoon Rayne, and this must be Clair, wonderful to meet you, I am Jackie” Jackie had been Liam and Leo’s nanny and the first one Rayne trusted to care for the twins.
“Hello, Ms. Jackie, it is so good to meet you as well. Are they asleep?” Clair beamed.
“They just woke up, so you came at a good time, I was trying to find Evelyn’s blanket” Rayne turned to Clair.
“It smells the most like Liam” she explained, then turned back, “I’ll get something from the bedroom. Thank you, Jackie, you can go for today”
“That sounds like a good idea” she smiled, “and thank you, I will see you tomorrow” pulling Rayne into a hug, she squeezed her tightly, before heading out. That hug always lifted her spirits and was one of the reasons she liked her.
“Ok, I am going in, I can help you with diapers and such if you like..” Clair offered, “and you can tell me everything. I need to know how to help you. I can see that everyone on the staff loves you, and from how Cruella treated you... well. I am glad I am here. You need a someone in your corner. That kitty needs to be declawed”
Rayne laughed, “what are you doing to me Clair? I am perfectly comfortable avoiding her. And…” she blushed, the stopped herself, a skill which had taken time, “the staff are nice to everyone. They are all lovely people” she opened the door the nursery and smiled, “feel free to start with that diaper change, I’ll go and get one of Liam’s t-shirts” she started to walk down the hall., hearing her friend speaking to one of the twins.
“Hello, my little prince, I am Clair, your favourite Aunt. Do you need a diaper change?” Rayne smiled as she listened. “Rayne is in trouble, you are a little flirt already.” Clair chuckled.
Once in her room though Rayne gently closed the door behind her and took a deep breath. In no way had she expected that conversation to be so intense, or to meet Madeline in the hall, and the effort to maintain her composure had been draining. Clair was her closest friend, but she wanted to go deeper than anyone she saw regularly other than Liam, and it wasn’t something she wanted or needed. Trying not make any noise, she wiped a few tears from her face and cleared her throat.
“You are stronger than this Rayne… you need to be stronger than this…” after a few moments she stood up straight again and smiled, heading towards Liam’s walk-in robe but stopping when she saw Evie’s blanket on a chair in the corner and smiled, “should have known” Liam brought her in here when she woke up, rather than take her to the living room. She loved that man, him and their children, more than anything.
Walking back to the nursery, Rayne saw Clair at the table along the wall with Leo, and leaned on the doorway for a moment watching them, “having fun?”
“Yep, one down, One to go. This little boy is such a flirt, wonder who he gets that from?” Clair giggled as she lifts Leo up, turning around. “Rayne, I am here until the conference I mentioned, I will let you truly talk to me when you are ready but please, no hiding. I will never judge you, I absolutely will judge the stand in, but only in my head. Mostly”
“I know” Rayne knew that her tone was not as definitive as she would like, and walked in to pick up her daughter, placing her blanket around her and waiting for the table, “and if you’re suggesting that that flirt is his father and that that is all it took? You’re correct” Clair chuckled, nodding to Evelyn.
“If she is not the spitting image of you... Rayne, they are beautiful, does daddy have a brother?” Clair winked.
“Already you ask Clair, I should have expected that” she smiled, and as a matter of fact, he does. I haven’t decided whether to introduce the two of you yet, not if you’re staying in this suite” Leo had managed to find out that Rayne had a friend here, but she hadn’t confirmed for him whether that friend was single or not.
Clair laughed softly, trying not to startle the babies, “I have no idea of what you are talking about. His scent calms her still, huh? So when do I get to meet the father of my godchildren?”
“Sometimes I wonder if my girl recognises that she has two parents” Rayne smiled, leaning her cheek on Evie’s head and swaying slightly, “and Liam should be here really soon, he gets off early today. To meet you, actually” Rayne frowned, “um, what time is it?”
Clair looked at her watch, “It is almost a little after three. I would expect punctuality from His Majesty”
“One of his many excellent qualities. And he should have… been here already” Rayne didn’t want to worry her friend, her near panic was internal, “I’ll message him, can you take her?”
“Sure, I got them if you want to go his office, I will tell them the story of how I met the most tenacious little girl ever.” Clair smiled.
“Good idea, and thank you so much Clair, really” she passed Evie to her friend and pulled out her phone, confirming that she hadn’t received any messages from Liam, “will you be okay with them for a while? His office isn’t too far, I’m sure he’s just caught up with something”
“I have been around babies longer than you, I will be fine. Do what you need to do.” Clair reassured her.
“Will see you soon then” she headed out the door, her gait steadily increasing with her heartbeat as she made her way to the office.
The door was unlocked, and no one answered her knock. There was something wrong, she hadn’t allowed herself to believe it before, but something was wrong. Not hearing any voices, Rayne gently pushed open the door and looked to the desk.
“Liam!” she ran over to him and around the desk. The King didn’t move. Still sitting in his chair, his head was resting face down on his arm and his desk, surrounded by the work he had been doing and still with a pen in his slack hand. Rayne shook him, but he didn’t move, leaning down close she tried to blink away her tears, begging for him to still be breathing, “please…” she whispered to him, turning his head and placing her fingers near his nose to feel the intake and exhale of breath there. She almost collapsed, that moment of panic still overwhelming her. There was no explanation for him to be unconscious here, but then she noticed the document directly beneath him, and saw the messy scrawl of a bad imitation of Liam’s signature. Gently pulling the document out from under him she stared at the heading, frozen.
Rage took her over.
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BFCD Reviews by Nesha: Final Space, Season 3
Everybody that know me know that I’m high class #Quillective trash and my main thoughts and feelings go out to Quinn Ergon and Gary Goodspeed - precious Gemini gems, and of course the BABIES: Little Cato, Ash and Fox #NeshaLuhDaKids I had some attachment to Avocato once upon a time, but that n***a got on my LAST nerves this season, so we currently at “Do you, Boo” status by the end of S3, and eventually, yes, I’ma get to why that is.
Disclaimer for somebody who stumbled across this post because of the fandom tags - I am an independent partaker of this content, not “part of the fandom,” and my audience in particular is NOT for everybody. SO: If you may have been criticized in the past for casual racism, tone deafness to Black women’s concerns or accused of misogynoir or antiblackness, leave now.
If you don’t like cussing, AAVE, general ratchetness and mean lesbian energy, you too might wanna go. A bitch can be eloquent, but I type like I talk, at times, so it is what it is and I don’t curate for kids, dudes, or nonblacks. That’s just what that is.
I wanna start with Ash Graven. This season is about Ash more than anybody else, despite the fact that there was a lot of emphasis on Avocato’s toxic ass man pain and growth in Quinn and Gary’s relationship, ULTIMATELY, nobody in the crew did more coming into fruition as Ash did, and I have a lot to say about her, because I have a lot of feelings.
♡ Ash Graven
1. Ash is a kid. Lol. Everybody got very confused because of the unnecessary transformation that Invictus gave her. Ash did not “grow up,” her body was altered. That’s a fuckin kid in a woman’s body. A kid who has previously been living with survivor’s guilt, parental abuse/neglect/exploitation, chronic trauma, and a disastrous superpower that most people could not be trusted to carry. She’s a child having a coming of age moment in this season that is mostly molded in manipulation. If you hate on Ash, go fuck yourself. ESPECIALLY if I’ve caught you stanning other characters who have been shit characters, in this fandom or not. Ash was dealt a shit hand and nobody had her back but her brothers, and she’s done what she could and thought was best to care for them. Anybody that missed that - just don’t have kids, K.
2. Ash has no parental guidance. As far as she knows, the only adults who have ever had her back are dead and the ones that she’s stuck with now, she GAVE a chance to try to trust them. She gave Quinn a chance to try to see some of Nightfall (the only adult that we’ve seen not exploit her) in her. She gave Gary a chance by choosing him over Clarence, when she had to make a choice. She even gave Clarence’s ass another chance - with which he responded by dying to not fail her. Now, she has Gary, who just a few days or weeks ago, idek, forced her to try to summon her powers while she was both injured and also upset over having to leave her brother behind - TO SAVE HIS GIRLFRIEND! And she got snatched away in the process and left behind with the enemy, to be mentally assaulted and returned changed, only to have them not trust her.
I love Quinn too. I love her dearly. But the facts were that she was dying and having an episode that nobody could really help with, and Gary didn’t take the time or consideration to think about the stress that he was putting on Ash by putting her in the position to make her feel like she needed to save Quinn for him. Whether or not she was the only one who could, that is a lot to put on a child, and not only did he do it, but he didn’t even seem to think that hard about it whenever he then left her ass. Sure, he was glad when she was returned, but that was a fucked up situation that yet another adult put her into, and the first thing that he should have wanted to do when seeing her was to apologize and try to make it right. It was a huge miscalculation to treat her as a potential enemy that he and Avocato needed to vet. EVEN IF that’s what she was to them, both of them should have had the sense to assess while still treating her as the kid that they supposedly knew.
3. Most of her trauma has been recent and continuous. She looked up to Nightfall, watched her die, and had a meltdown. The events from Season 2 (with Clarence almost killing Fox and leaving him to die, her leaving his side to help out, seeing that Sheryl was treacherous to her own son, losing Nightfall), and the events that are taking place in Season 3 are only in the span of a few months.
They were only stranded for a month whenever we see them surviving together. That girl has had more happen to her to hurt her than to help her and nobody around her BUT Little Cato has been sensitive to that. And they are all fucking adults.
These things being noted - changing Ash’s design was the absolute worse fucking thing. Aging a girl up to make the bad things that follow more palatable is what that seems to be. Ash is still a kid. And THEN, they allegedly made her a queer kid. I say allegedly, because that “reveal” was so poorly done and subtle and weak that I, an almost 40 year old queer, didn’t realize that that’s what they meant whenever they said that they were gonna reveal somebody as a character who is part of the LGBT community.
So... FS production just gon’ decide not only to transform her body into that of a woman, when her mind is still full on traumatized child and hormonal teenager, but also, she likes girls, and they didn’t even do it in a cohesive way that added to the story. They threw it in, like, “BTW, she likes girls, and also, she’s full grown now.” then immediately went for the “Villain” lever, and bitches just ate that shit up. Fuck y’all, forreal.
& Fox
He didn’t deserve that shit. And, I know a lot of people felt that he was pointless and boring, but his ass was sweet and caring and searching for love and acceptance. As a background character, I liked him. But, he was literally just fodder for Ash’s downfall, which was unfair and problematic, considering that his ass is definitely Black coded. Don’t play. He was voiced by a Black man, spoke with a blaccent, and definitely would be read as Black if you wasn’t looking at him and seeing an alien. They gave him a sacrificial negro trope, the big friendly negro that can kill you but loves everybody trope, and they used his death to just push some narrative forward to set up the one verified queer character as a villain. They got they ass in a vehicle and rolled right over another Black character, and another queer character. Chile...
♡ Little Cato!!!
My precious have not been getting some good for too long, and I have had it. He’s not focused on so much this season as he is in the background of other people’s stories, but a very important takeaway is and will always be that Little Cato, aside from Fox, really was the only one here who consistently treated her like she mattered, so it made a lot of sense that he could be the catalyst for her finally having ENOUGH with these people.
I really wish that he could have found out the truth about his past from Avocato, because that’s really who OWED him that truth, but Ash did the thing that I’d expect and told him, to be honest with him. She even told him that Avocato wanted to tell him and that she took that right away from him, because she didn’t believe he deserved it, and I’m respecting her for that, too. I wish she could see how much it hurt Little Cato for her to try to take him away from his home.
Little Cato has lived before, for a while, and he’s not mature enough to behave as a man, but he at least has a loving foundation to draw from, and having had that support, this is more of his home than it is Ash’s. He doesn’t know how to explain that to her, and she doesn’t know how to understand that for him. Just a tragic situation for two kids with a lot of problems.
♡ Quinn Ergon & Gary Goodspeed
Quinnary notes that might not be featured in the BFCD Reviews by Nesha: (Quinn Ergon/Nightfall x Gary Goodspeed) rundown -
I've had two favorite parts of this season so far and they're very mediocre things that you wouldn't think would be like my favorite part but they are. One of them was that the first thing Gary does when she wakes up is to ask her about her sister (someone obviously very important to her who he's previously promised to allow to let live through Quinn's memory and says he wants to hear about her when he's trying to keep Quinn from dying). Because... He really did care and wasn't just saying something to keep her.
Quinn's mother fucked her up in a way that is so frustrating because Black mamas really will traumatize you about their younger kids. That shit hurt. You showed your daughter dead bodies to make her think about that in the event that your other daughter might be in battle? Bitch wtf
Whenever we say that Black girls are programmed to put everybody ahead of us, that's unfortunately not just including Society, it's in households too. And Quinn comes from this place where that is her reality... Then she meets Gary and he doesn't even register for her as anything special. He doesn't appear impressive or incredible in any way... But he (admittedly) weirdly locks on to her and shares himself - thinking that he's showing himself to her, and ultimately he DOES. And he wants to see her too, beyond all this, who she is, at her most humane. He wants to know about her sister. About someone who mattered to her enough to have the helm of her trauma when she was out of touch with reality. Very soft. Very sweet.
The other was when they were talking about how they met and stuff and Gary absolutely cringed thinking about how corny he was when he approached this woman. A lot of dudes never do that. The complaint of earlier seasons that Gary was overbearing, obsessive and creepy , if you missed the fact that he has terrible abandonment issues from his father’s death and his mother’s rejection, here we have him, in his adult state, looking back at the way he was and being embarrassed about it, and that’s growth!
A close third is whenever at the beginning of the Season he says "Quinn it's been a month eventually you have to open up to me about what you've been through" and she says "I will in time" and he respects it but he reiterates that he's there whenever she needs him. I don't think that people realize how revolutionary that kind of statement is especially for a character like Quinn to hear - who has always felt like she had to take charge, had to take the lead, had to make the sacrifice.
Even when she realized that she was dying, she didn't want to burden him with the information. Not even like ‘a thing that she knew if that could help prevent it and she didn't want him to have to go after it,’ but... she didn't even want him to have to deal with knowing about it!
Maybe she thought that she would just drop, maybe she didn't realize that he was going to have to see her in that condition. And then once she realized that he was going to have to see her in that condition one of the first things she says is "I should have told you." Girl is on her deathbed wishing she had done it differently, for Gary's benefit.
I saw somebody on Twitter tried to come for her about not going to Gary after he killed Fox (you know, shortly after her surgery to save her from the very brink of death, and listen... Quinn comes to see about Gary when she can. She’s done it several times. In fact, I’ma make a whole POST about Quinn and Gary moments SPECIFICALLY to point out to haters in the main tag - where they got Quinn Ergon, and by extension, me, FUCKED UP.
Stop Playing in Quinn Face
HI! HELLO. ACTUALLY MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS SEASON IS THAT QUINN AND GARY JUST FUCKED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS. OK. Back 2 bidness
See.. after Gary and Quinn got over the humps of Quinn’s Final Space poisoning... everyone got it... nobody told her until Avocato was mad and told her during a lash out, and let me say something about Avocato’s fucking audacity this season...
♡ Avocato (Note: His name is A-V-O-C-A-T-O. Some of y’all be tryna stan and y’all can’t even spell his name.)
I done seent Avacata, Avocata... That’s not that dude name. Be writing whole ass expositions about some other Ventrexian n*gga. Hope this helps:
AVOCATO. Listen, boy. YOU decided to be a traitor to your people and your king and queen. YOU decided to dedicate your cause to the Lord Commander and lied to your son his entire life about killing his parents, raising him, and never talking to him about it.
Yet and STILL - whenever you had the chance to finally tell him, you ain’t do the shit. Lord Commander gave you the perfect ass opportunity - WHEN IT CAME UP, and even then, with that boy looking you dead in the face and being glad that now he knows everything... you ain’t Ventrexian man up.
Then, whenever you were supposed to be checking on Gary after his traumatic murder fight with Fox and Invictus, you turned it around and literally made it about you. attacking him in the process and only after a physical fight did you apologize. (And y’all still didn’t get back to what had happened to Gary, which was no real fault of his own).
Fast forward to after you willingly agreed to stay behind and fight and y’all lost. Now, it was Quinn’s turn to be the center of your blame and you lashed out at her because everybody is dying, despite the fact that y’all agreed to stay behind and fight, nobody even told her that y’all were sick, AND you still wasn’t 100 with Little Cato.
You just had a lot of mothafuckin audacity this season, Avocato, and I personally was not here for the shit. Even when Ash blasted yo ass, your main thought was to threaten to kill her if she took Little Cato, instead of assuring her that despite what you’ve done, Little Cato was safe with you. No, she wouldn’t have listened to you. But, the words you chose tell us about who you are and how you are. You a war mongering killer that don’t ever take responsibility for his shit, and even in those brief moments that you do, its always somebody else’s problem.
I’da thunk that LC getting snatched away would be humbling for you, but I guess you were chosen by the writers for minimal growth. Bye, Avocato. Witcha bitch ass. We is not cool right now, but you do you. Hope you find some growth up there in ya ass, where ya head been. 😁 Can’t believe I mourned yo ass. You coulda stayed dead as hell.
FINALE NOTES:
OK BITCH OK THIS FINALE WAS HYPE!
Let me pull it up so that I can liveblog it for the shit that I need to conclude this journey.
We start out after Ash done took Little Cato and burnt off. Gary and AVOCATO done said they finna go get they son. Chile, I cannot handle Biskit voice. I like that lil’ dude but ya voice, Mane. I can’t with it.
OK OK OK... Whenever Quinn comes up to Gary to talk to him and say potential goodbyes, she look like she wanna say some and that makes me think about whenever she looked like she wanted to say something in season 1 and didn’t. Quinn as grown a lot in her feelings for Gary, but she still has that hard time with talking about her feelings, but I love that you can see them in her face.
Chile... these folk was kinda taking they time gettin started, huh? Knuckas, do y’all remember that everybody finna die of FS poisoning? Lol. Also... why didn’t they start hallucinating and shit? I guess its not until it covers ya face?
NIGHTFALL. 😥 I love you, Sis. I miss you. But, “Because I’m you and WE think of everything...” YES. I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT! EVERYBODY EXPECTS QUINN TO THINK OF EVERYTHING AND WHENEVER THEY DON’T THINK OF THE THINGS, SHE GETS BLAMED FOR MAKING THE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT NOBODY ELSE COULD EVEN MAKE. Underappreciated, really. And people still mark Nightfall as a villain, despite the fact that she not only sacrificed herself, but also came specifically to help another Gary. Sidenote - Nightfall didn’t actually pursuit Quinn’s Gary until Quinn was trapped in Final Space and she thought she got a signal from him. So, I’m still salty AF that she been labelled as a villain just because people don’t like her, when her actions have all been to try to help. Here is no difference. She thought of the things that she didn’t think a younger version of her would think of, and left it for Quinn to find. Nightfall be on RNS, and most of y’all didn’t deserve her.
Quinn’s identity crisis is so sad, but I liked that Nightfall EVEN thought about that. And Sheryl... you kinda starting to grow on me. I hate to give shitty mothers who find compassion in old chance a try, but she do seem to really be giving it a go.
Ash is so fucked up that she rushes right into the devil’s arms. This reminds me of when trafficking victims go back to their abusers because they don’t have the resources to adjust in the system. 😪 She REALLY believes what she’s saying. She really feels like Little Cato is safer with Invictus with the Team Squad. That’s sad as fuck, bruh.
THE. ACTING. AND. ARTWORK. IN. THIS. CONFRONTATION. SCENE.
Avocato... I’m proud of you for FINALLY taking responsibility ad opening up about it. Little Cato’s reaction is precisely how kids in the system are, as well. They wanna be at home with their parents, no matter who their parents are or what they’ve done. and Avocato meant what he said and did what I referred to earlier as “Ventraxian man up.”
“I’m sorry we failed you,” from Gary was so important. Because, they technically did fail her. Had Ash seen the same amount of love from Gary as she’s seen him give to others, she might have been more receptive to the truth and less susceptible to lies. But, as she had just said earlier, it was too late for kind words. She’s currently beyond accepting them from him. For a brief moment, it breaks through, but without that ability to know love from an adult properly, she can’t accept that apology right now.
H.U.E. with his big robot, Lord Commander...EYE. There’s so much happening right now bitch processing has left the room girl. Biskit did so damn much this episode. And it was good to see everybody on the team have a moment to help things, instead of like one person having to handle the bulk of things.
Quinn’s begging voice... its such a contrast from whenever she sent out the SOS in season 1 and was afraid and angry. Like... the desperation here shows her softness.
Ash’s RAGE Bitch...
Gary’s “I love you...” She looked so happy! And then she just sat with it. I feel like she definitely loves him too, but she doesn’t communicate that way. But, her FACE. She was just... did she think that he didn’t before, or was she just speechless because she didn’t expect to hear it? Because, we gotta be real... Sis probably has not ever heard those words from anybody before. And that first time, when it’s really there is a DOOZIE. She had an abusive mother, a seemingly jealous or competitive sister, and we saw how nobody in the Infinity Guard respected her ass when she was serving them the real. I think this is the first time she’s been in love or felt it and when Gary said it, she had to collect herself. The way she ran to him and jumped into his arms??? SHIPPING CRACK. And Mooncake was a part of their hug too. I have a lot of feelings about this dynamic since Quinn and Mooncake are the only characters that we’ve seen Gary have these “love at first sight” reactions to and Mooncake is the first character that I recall Quinn being nice to in S1.
So.. my heart was very full when they ripped it from my chest moments later. Mooncake has been watching Team Squad members be self sacrificing for a little while now, and he loves his family and Gary so much that he rushes straight towards danger. (Sure, I don’t think that he estimated how powerful Ash could be at this moment), but he had to at least consider that he might be caught or left behind.
Bitch, Ash is GONE. She said, “Fuck all y’all!” Not knowing whether or not Mooncake is destroyed makes it very hard for me to know how much I can stand this, but I also want to hope that he is gonna survive. Quinn having to make the decision to lightfold is hella sad, but even though Gary is destroyed, he has to know that this is exactly how Ash must’ve felt whenever he had to make the call to leave Fox behind. She hated to do that to Gary. She even seemed more regretful about it than Gary did whenever he had to leave Fox and when he left Ash. Sure, its because she loves him more than he loved Fox and Ash, but its a terrible position to be in to have to hurt somebody you love like that. On the other hand, they gave her hella shit for them not escaping when could have the first time, so naturally, she was going to make this decision.
It very much sucks that Invictus is free and my brain can’t eeem FATHOM what that means for everything and everybody, but the Final Space poisoning left the Team Squad’s system, so maybe there is a rejuvenation of some sort in Invictus’ power? Or does Final Space poisoning leave your system as soon as you leave Final Space? I don’t think that was clarified.
Anyways, I still don’t hate Ash. Y’all can say whatever about it, but I see sad white boys get forgiven all day every day on this site, and I’m upset, but I’m not letting my baby go. I’m not cheering her on, but unless she dies, I’m gonna hope for the best for her, like I said here.
DAMN this season was some shit. Ionknow if I’m emotionally capable of watching another season of Final Space in progress. If they make it back for another season, I will most likely just wait until the end to dive in and let them shock my senses all at once instead of on a weekly goddamn basis, because GODDAMN GODDAMN GODDDAMN!
@andromidagalaxie @daintyurbanprincess @shslargue @space-finally The Quinnary Moments Masterlist probably won’t be ready by Quinn’s birthday, since her birthday is the day before Juneteenth, but I’ve started on a little fic that I might have the first installment of posted by then. We shall see.
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Here is my JOURNEY during my first watch of the first two seasons of the show. (I watched Season 3 in progress and waited until it was over to write up this review) and my probably incoherent tag of whenever I do me a lil’ liveblogging: Nesha Watches Final Space, and here is my review on Quinnary: BFCD Reviews by Nesha: (Quinn Ergon/Nightfall x Gary Goodspeed) FINAL SPACE
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I don't even know what to do with my feelings tonight
Final Space fans after every episode:
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Quinn mama really hauled off and traumatized her for the sake of duty that she wasn't even of age to consent to, yet and still, we've seen at least Nightfall be a positive motherly figure, so Quinn is not passing on generational pain. And I'm very proud of her for it.
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Compiling all my Quinnary moments for a masterlist and it has now occured to me that while Little Cato officially has two dads, he also unofficially has two moms in Quinn and Nightfall and I -
He doesn't get a lot of good events, but he surely has been loved in his life.
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I was thinking about this very thing.
Final Space Season 3 SPOILERS
Hey, so you know how in S1 Lord Commander ordered his top ranking men to kill their firstborns as a test of their loyalty to him?
Well, with the new knowledge that Avocato is not Little Cato’s bio dad, and LC is aware of that, what if it wasn’t so much a test, but a means of being petty and getting Little Cato out of the picture?
I would argue that LC was secretly angry that Avocato had loyalty towards someone who wasn’t him and, for the sake of making a big show, told them all to kill their firstborns, possibly as a way of making it clear to Avocato what his options are.
Basically, it could have been that Avocato adopting Little Cato, unfortunately, may have given the Lord Commander the idea in the first place.
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BFCD Reviews by Nesha: (Quinn Ergon/Nightfall x Gary Goodspeed) FINAL SPACE
NOBODY:
Me to Me: Why don't you break your own heart for no reason at all?
Don't. Mind. If. I. Do.
I remember seeing something where the Creator had tweeted that Quinn is the hero of the story but we're looking at the story through Gary's lens. So cute. At any rate, I have a lot of feelings about Quinn, a lot of feelings about her relationship with Gary, and a lot of time to air them out.
@andomidagalaxie and @daintyurbanprincess who got me into this fandom @space-finally who greeted me as soon as I arrived, as a long time member of the fandom @shslargue who I dragged in with me
I decided to post this on Gary’s birthday. The Season 3 Review will be created after the finale, in case there’s stuff in it that I need to voice, and the Quinnary Moments Masterlist, I’m aiming to complete by Quinn’s birthday on the 20th.
Disclaimer for somebody who stumbled across this post because of the fandom tags - I am an independent partaker of this content, not “part of the fandom,” and my audience in particular is NOT for everybody. SO: If you may have been criticized in the past for casual racism, tone deafness to Black women’s concerns or accused of misogynoir or antiblackness, leave now.
If you don’t like cussing, AAVE, general ratchetness and mean lesbian energy, you too might wanna go. A bitch can be eloquent, but I type like I talk, at times, so it is what it is and I don’t curate for kids, dudes, or nonblacks. That’s just what that is.
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Whenever we first see Quinn, she’s an untrusting person who tends to focus more on facts and results than emotions. (I really love the cute way that she looks at Tribore in the opening sequence). She is focused on problems and solutions and doesn’t seem to have time for anything else. She even tells us pretty early on that she doesn’t trust anybody, aside from the Infinity Guard (which she most likely has only been trained to believe in).
Gary is completely the opposite. He’s the type to feel like he’s in love the first time he sees someone. The type to find an alien lifeform that he knows nothing about and take them in. The type to bond over playing cards with a prisoner who attacked his ship and certify an eternal bond through a handshake. Their paths don’t seem likely to be compatible, unless you’re an optimist who favors opposites attracting.
But, the longer that they know each other, they become a bit symbiotic. Oddly enough, given the idea that Quinn is the hero of the story, she actually comes through as a damsel in distress at times, benefitting from, if not necessarily needing Gary’s help, and at other times, she literally would have died had he not been there and willing to help her. (This applies both to our Gary and Nightfall’s Gary in her time loop where he always dies).
So you know how Nightfall told them that she’d seen Gary died hundreds of times, that she's trying to stop it hundreds of times and every time Gary winds up dead no matter what decision she makes...
If Quinn had lived to become Nightfall.. (because we know she's a different Quinn because they have different histories), but if she did somehow wind up becoming that person she would have already lived among all of those dead Gary's and then also in the future seen all of those Gary's die.
I wonder what her Gary's home life was like. He was in the Infinity Guard when they met, But he was just as quick to fall. Like Sir.. the day y'all met, bumping into her was “the best thing that happened to you?” 🤣
Meeting Quinn for the first time: Here, we have this woman, who was so focused on her job, so focused on this saving the world just because she believed in saving the world. (She wasn't trying to be famous. She wasn't like trying to move up in ranks. She literally just wanted to make sure that Earth was safe), but she gave her life - not for Earth because that was already gone, and not for the same people she gave her life/dedication to when she was in the Infinity Guard, because they had already lost her trust, but she did it to save GARY. She SAID the words, “We couldn't save Earth but I can still save you...”
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That's why some of the criticism for the ship and the assessment of the characters stink of prejudice.
Quinn: Gets saved by Gary multiple times, asks him why he has feelings for her and receives an answer, watches the entire catalog of him connecting with her via vlog, decides to trust him, sees him love and care for his friends consistently, fights alongside him for however long and STILL gives him a “hard maybe” on dating, almost dies in his arms...
Haters: There was literally no reason whatsoever for them to eventually get together, they have nothing in common, their feelings are fake and unrealistic because they thought that they were gonna die, they started out bad and problematic (like enemies to lovers tropes, or a plethora of other angry character meets sunshine character don’t?)
To people who say that their relationship was based on nothing or came out of nowhere: After bunches and bunches of adventures, deaths, losses, small victories, gradual realizations... I mean... As far as ships are concerned, they've gone through a lot more than A LOT of ships that are popular have. Ships with far less likable people in them have done far less and had more support!!! And, I’m willing to bet that YOU even have a ship in your shipping catalog that has been given even less that you managed to ship JUST FINE on a hope and a prayer. I’m also willing to bet a Black girl wasn’t there and if she was, she was probably relegated as a tool for the other portion of the ship. I don’t have to prove nothing. You just think about it when you go down your little list.
Ultimately, the thing that gets her to acknowledge him and to see that there's more to him was her watching his video journals.
Mind you, this was AFTER she’d decided to trust him and wound up tied to a chair (because she disagreed with saving ONE life instead of saving the planet - WHICH IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU LOVE LITTLE CATO, THAT IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS AND MOST LIKELY WHY TF THEY COULDN’T SAVE EARTH IN TIME!).
She chose to give him another chance based upon seeing his videos and at the moment that he made a declaration through that incoming message, she CHOSE to help him! Not to leave, as she still could have and go on her mission, but to go help Gary. She helps the others in the process, but Quinn almost never asks about anybody’s status BUT Gary’s. But, people have insinuated that she doesn’t care about him or that she never considers him in season 1. That’s bullshit. They have moments sprinkled all throughout Season 1, and they begin with her watching these transmissions.
The "nothing in common" argument... Who THEE FUCK has something in common with Gary Goodspeed? Whomst? He's a fucking weirdo. Lol. 😤 Who finna "have things in common" with him? And WHY would not doing so mean they can't love each other? So, critics who claim this have never liked anyone who they had nothing in common with? Hell, sometimes, THAT’S the appeal. Opposites attracts is a common trope that people love so much, until one of the opposites is a Black woman. Argue with ya mama.
Don't. EVEN get me started on the idea that their feelings aren't real or are less valid because their experiences are all trauma bonding... Some of y'all need to be oppressed, and I mean that with all my heart, because you deserve it for growth and stimulation, since your current self is a basic bitch. Do y'all realize the day to day trauma, trials, tribulations, trouble that marginalized people have just to survive? Okay. So just because they're in a dangerous situation, and a bad environment their emotions aren't valid or worth support?
So those of us who grew up in the hood, people who have been impoverished our entire lives, people who see people like them executed regularly by laws and practices, people who have short ass life expectancy from all of the ingrained enmity in the system (lgbtq folk, especially those of color like Black trans women, as well as other identities like disabled folk and mentally ill, who are often not relatable in general) - I guess our traumatized asses shouldn't be allowed feelings of love and connection either, since it's just trauma bonding of us connecting while in distress or in a harmful environment?
Shut up. Y'all need to get dick slapped.
Love born in dire situations is not less valid because YOU have been privileged enough to fall in love when everything is great or at least comfortable. In fact, people in situations like ongoing war and such should be given even more grace to love freely and find joy in the company of someone else. IN FACT, ANYONE that Gary or Quinn would fall for would be in the SAME circumstances, so how is it not real with Quinn when most of you bitches DO have other ships IN this universe? The whole fucking universe is a warzone, Becky. The whole thing.
When @space-finally said that Y’all will complain about any and everything, no matter what direction they go in, she was right.
The relationship HAS very many problematic areas, but they are problematic areas that couples all over fandoms have had and have been allowed to have, by accepting fandoms for decades, and the challenge and the upside is that they’ve gotten PASSED those things. The appeal is that they have moved beyond those issues. You know what that’s called? Growth!
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Season 1
Gave us a journey of two strangers who traveled alongside each other until their journey led to confluence like the Meeting of Waters, and was abruptly ended when they only seemed to JUST be connecting to each other in a meaningful way. BUT, by that time, Quinn had chosen to trust Gary, had noticed feelings for him, and she decided to depart from him to save him. That was already love, idgaf what anybody says. She condemned herself to final space in order to save Gary. We saw Quinn become a little more like Gary.
And I appreciate that ultimately, he changed things about himself that needed work, but he never pretended to be someone else. He actually grew and still decided that he wanted her and didn't come back to asking her out again until it looked like death was imminent
She agreed to go on a date with him because he told her what he liked about her (that she was everything he's not) and whenever she was like... Okay, but that's good tho, right and he said something about love being messy and imperfect... And she agreed to go on a date with him.
Whenever death was not as imminent, but definitely impending, SHE brought the subject back up.
When she thought she was in her very last moments, she threw her arms around him. Like... It wasn't the one sided, "Well, I might as well say yes to be nice since we bout to get executed" that people make it out to be.
Season 2
Gave us Gary doing whatever he could in order to find Quinn, after realizing that she must still be alive when he reunited with Nightfall. (Before then, I can only guess that Gary had presumed that Quinn was dead), but the moment that he suspected she was alive, she became his focus.
I'm never going to be able to shake that thought of her being surrounded by all those dead Gary's for however long she was stuck there.
When Quinn said, "I tried to warn you," I'm immediately thinking that in her brain she was thinking “if I don't stop him from coming here he's going to be one of these dead Garys. I'm going to have to actually see my Gary dead with all these other Garys.”
And what could she possibly have done to been able to get a transmission out of final space? Like nobody's ever gotten a transmission out of final space and she was so determined to warn Gary not to come there that she got a transmission out! She was alone and trapped, surrounded by the dead bodies of other versions of Gary and she STILL was more willing to remain there than to risk losing her Gary to the same fate.
Overall, Season 2 gave us the journey back to Quinn.
Season 3
Gave us Gary’s journey in loving Quinn. Nightfall told him, “When you find Quinn, never let go,” and this season encompassed Gary taking that advice to heart. We see Gary become a little more like Quinn.
The criticism with Gary and his relationship with Quinn this season has been that he has tunnel vision and doesn’t care about anyone or anything else but Quinn.
I will actually give y’all that to a certain degree.
Because I hated to see Fox get left behind, even though I definitely could see why he would have to. Gary was right when he said that if they stayed, they all would die. This was something that Gary doesn’t generally do. In fact, in the past, Gary tried to always do whatever was best for everybody, thinking that he could accomplish everything for all of his friends.
But, in previous situations, that had lost him Quinn’s trust at least once, and ultimately, he’d lost Quinn, technically TWICE, (because even though he didn’t have the same feelings for Nightfall, he cared about her very much, and did see his Quinn in her at times). In this season, Gary does not want to ever be in the position to lose Quinn again!
Tunnel Vision Gary was very close to true, but not necessarily a bad thing, as far as shipping goes. Another popular trope in shipping is whenever they’ll do anything for each other, and we see a lot of this from both of them in S3.
Where he DID have me fucked up was how he did Ash. It felt like he put that young lady on the chopping block to save Quinn, and even though I know it was a situation that most likely only Ash COULD help, but for him to actually burden her with that, especially given what she had been through was unfair and he didn’t even seem to give it much of a thought. Now... arguably, Gary just didn’t have the time it would have taken him to be kinder, more gentle, or attentive to Ash’s needs and also save Quinn. But, that definitely doesn’t justify it.
The dynamic between Gary and Quinn in this season was all about Gary trying to save Quinn again, but this time, she’s right there. It’s oftentimes much easier to love our image of a person or our memory of a person, because we get to mold those to our will. The love is in our imagination and subject to our wildest dreams. In real life, people are different.
This is the first time that Gary and Quinn get to even explore their emotions for each other together, and in the background: complete and utter chaos. Violence, illness, destruction and death. It is so realistic to not be able to focus on each other (something that I noticed people were upset about), and I definitely agree that the writers were being purposefully rude by not even letting them kiss in front of us - but I think that the added opposition makes for their connection to each other that more real for me, because they didn’t completely neglect their responsibilities so much as try to prioritize their newfound relationship and juggle their ongoing adversity.
I INTERRUPT THIS TO ANNOUNCE THAT QUINN AND GARY DONE FUCKED GIRL! ASDFGHKJKLKKLLLSSSS!!!
Ok. I’m okay. I’m alright.
Alright. NOW, with that being said and understood, reiterating my previous stance, and adding on to it, because Quinn got SO. MUCH. SHIT. From you busted bitches this season - Ms. Ergon had things going on and she still was on her grown woman shit to save as many people as she could. She’s already sacrificed herself, not knowing that she would ever make it out (side note, everybody who subscribed to the idea that Quinn would abandon Gary in Final Space, instead of realistically presuming that she just couldn’t reach him? Chile, fuck you.)
In this season alone, Quinn went from thinking that maybe she was dreaming that Gary was there for her, to lamenting because “I told you not to come here,” to being rescued but stranded for another month (with ALL of the people she knows stranded with her), to finding out that she didn’t have long to live, but wanting to make the best of it with Gary, to a mental collapse drudging up her most traumatic moments, to her death bed, and as soon as she was rescued, Gary had to kill someone he cared about and alienate another. And, only after that did they even have moments just to even touch, much less anything else.
But, they went ahead and made the time... and then the man’s son got taken by a very troubled girl!
There was no reason that all of that shouldn’t have made them ready to just give up - on multiple occasions. Whether or not you buy the destiny angle or as the fandoms call it “soul mates” trope...
What they did sell me was a perfectly sound love story for the perfectly unsound conditions of the universe that the characters live in. And if you missed it, I sympathize, because they didn’t give me everything I could ask for, but what they did give me was a ship that I could sail into oblivion on. Until the Titans snatch Earth into Final Space.
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Here is my JOURNEY during my first watch of the first two seasons of the show. (I watched Season 3 in progress and waited until it was over to write up this review.) Nesha Watches Final Space
#Quinn Ergon#Nightfall#Final Space#BFCD Reviews by Nesha#Quinn Ergon Commentary#Nesha Watches#Nesha Watches Final Space#This is a Quinn Ergon appreciation blog#Quinn x Gary#Quinnary#April 11th 4:19 am to#June 11#Its Gary's Birthday#Gary Goodspeed#This really took me two months to actually finish and put out. Wow#Final Space Spoilers
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Hey. That was so unfair to everybody involved.
#Final Space#I'm so upset#I know that they said that I would be upset#But I'm more upset than that#Nesha Watches#Nesha Watches Final Space
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Quinn is a Gemini.
#Quinn is a Gemini#The way it makes sense#Nesha Rewatches Final Space#Nesha Hyperfixates#I'm actually going to go to bed but like... soon#Nesha Watches Final Space#Quinn Ergon
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The times that Gary has made moves to step up for Little Cato have been shortly after Quinn prompted him.
The time she told him that he needs to go talk to him and he crawls through the vent and winds up agreeing to a revenge attack.
And the time that Nightfall told him that he'd have to step it up and he winds up adopting him.
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BFCD Reviews by Nesha: Final Space
This show was suggested to me a while back by @andromidagalaxie and I just now got around to watching it today and kudos! I mean HUZZAH. This shit left me feeling emotionally abused and basically, I’m a glutton for pain, so I got something that I really enjoy. I didn’t get what I expected, which was to laugh a lot, but I cried a lot, so that’s almost as good.
This starts out as one of the most fun cartoons I’ve picked up on in a while. From the start it was very funny, entertaining, it has some violence that I wasn't expecting a little bit of sexuality, but was still just good fun for the first few episodes, at least. The characters are all likable.The villain is really nicely done so far. The comedy is top tier. You get really connected to the characters and feel comfortable with their dynamic and how their energy is - feeling bad for their sadness and such... then they just fucking let you have it and rarely let up off of torturing you by making you see these characters that they made you adore just go through shit over and over, for the rest of the show.
In the opening... Avocato is... ripping off somebody head. Goddamn goddamn goddamn... I don’t think that I paid attention to that at first. Like... Lawd. Of course, I would’ve have expected the attack on my nervous system that the show turned out to be if I had paid that any mind.
The relationship between Gary and Avocato is honestly amazing. From the start, they made me really care for them and it’s nice to see Gary’s loyalty and friendship help Avocato to come out of his shell.
The episode where all the soldiers kill their firstborn out of allegiance to the Lord Commander 🙀🙀🙀 THEEEEEEE FUCK. LIKE SPLATTERED CHILD GORE IS EVERYWHERE. WHAT. THE. FUCK???!!!???!!!???
"The Gary" tickles me. Keep calling that motherfucker “The Gary.”
OMG, Quinn watching Gary's tapes. 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 She finally starting to have him rub off on her too. That Gary, boy I tell ya. he’ll make anybody soft. Him a soft boy.
AVOCATO GOT BLEWED UP???!!!??? BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH.
I’m like... I had to stop reacting for a while. I had to take a breather. The next episode or two were heavy with sadness. That was extremely hurtful. I had no idea it was happening.
THEY PISSING. It's literally a pissing contest Chile. Cookie Wife and cookie kids. 😭😭😭 They gave me a few more lil’ laughs.
Then, mostly pain. Just pain. A lot of pain and crying and anger.
Here is my liveblogging in the GC
Long story short, them people thought that they could make me watch a bunch of pain and heartache and give me a lil’ adhesive medical strip, like Tribore tried to do that time, by giving me a Quinn/Gary reunion at the end of the season, and guess what? I’m still mad. Because they put me through hell for that. Just. Why did they do me like that? Are they gon’ do me like this again, when I come back for Season 3, because I definitely will, be it for potential laughs or what I now know is their brand of hurting me repeatedly over and over? I guess we shall see. Shout out to @daintyurbanprincess for getting me to finally watch this and listening to me cry about it for two days straight.
#BFCD Reviews by Nesha#Nesha Watches#Nesha Watches Final Space#Final Space#If you haven't seen it this is full of spoilers#It's basically me reacting all through the two days that I binged seasons 1 and 2#long post
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