#neil and renee

[thedeathwitchescats]

Do you have any ideas/headcannons about Renee/Andrew/Neil ?

This is the best question anyone has ever asked me because absolutely yes I do. Ill keep this to [mostly] canon compliant ones for simplicity. Apologies in advance

Renee and Andrew started dating relatively soon after he went to Palmetto and told no one about it. For Renee it was mostly to avoid judgement and for Andrew it was because he didnt care about other peoples opinions. Wymack, Abby and Bee know though. Bee because Andrew told her, Abby because Renee told her and Wymack because Wymack knows everything

I always still pictured Andrew as being biromantic but still not sexually attracted to women, and Renee was saving herself for marriage ((after she was born again obviously))

When Neil appeared Andrew was immediately infatuated, but still very suspiscious, and Renee was also warry, the two of them had many deep discussions on the roof about whether they could trust him or not

((Imagine a world where Renee sometimes went with the monsters to Colombia, and also Andrew hadnt stopped Nikky from making advances on Neil for this one to make sense)) Renee was there for Neils first night at Columbia and she was the one who told Andrew that Nikky kissed Neil unconsensually ((no Nikky slander in this post, i am well aware my opinions of this man are niche)) and it was after this that Andrew made a conscious effort to get Nikky to stop making Neil uncomfy

Renee was the first person that Andrew let hug him after he left the Spear household, it was during his first year midterms, he was stressed and riddled with medicated anxiety. Renee asked if she could give him a hug because it helps her to calm down and after that Andrew started to breathe easier and decided that, when asked and with granted permission ofc, he kind of liked hugs

Andrew figures out that he is head over heels for Neil pretty early on and has a conversation with Renee about it. She tells him that she also seems to have feelings for Neil and they decide that they are going to slowly approach him and try to figure him out. Cut to the convo at the store where Renee is getting Andrew a bday gift and Neil is there, Renee tells Neil some details of their situation ((being that Andrew is gay but that they are still together because they have a very deep bond and sex isnt important to either of them)) And Neil is confused but understands and supports. Renee tells Andrew that she genuinely can not figure out what is up with Neil and Andrew decides to leave it alone ((in Andrew fashion which equates to calling Neil family, giving him a key and calling it home, letting Neil drive his car, putting Neil on his insurance for his new car, giving Neil an entire new wardrobe- you know, normal shit))

Also in this world Renee was the one who has Andrews other key, not Nikky

Renee and Neil actually start formulating a relationship while Andrew is in easthaven (("you took his car and now your taking his girl" or whatever it was specifically that Nikky said i cant remember atm)) And when Neil goes to the nest she knows as well as Kevin. She tries to stop him but after he tells her it is to protect Andrew she nods solemnly and tells him to take hers/andrews knives to keep himself safe

When Neil gets out Renee picks him up from Wymacks apartment and is angry and upset and that is when she kisses him, gently as to not hurt him buy fierce enough to get her point across. She breaks down and tells him everything and says that she never should have let him go. Neil is stunned and doesnt know how to react. This is when the upperclassmen ((who were all scattered around because theyre in Renees dorm room)) find out about Andrew and Renee

When Andrew comes back and is very obviously traumatized Neil decides not to push the issue and to let Andrew be the one to approach him

Renee starts going to Columbia with them weekly now that their secret is out. Her and Neil dance while Andrew watches protectively. Renee is still a very traumatized individual but she has softer edges about pda and physical touch. Her and Neil kiss in the crowd and Andrew realizes he is done for

"Doesnt mean i wouldnt blow you" happens in front of Renee instead of Kevin and she is proud ((if not a tiny bit shocked))

Andrew and Neils first kiss on the rooftop is short and Andrew talks to Renee who assures him that Neil would have said something if he was hurt and Andrew, who didnt know he was capable of regret, finds himself regretting it all

Neil and Andrew start working on communicating, because all good relationships have communication even the "not relationships"

Right up until Neil starts getting spooky count downs and ominous bloody messages from papa dearest, then communication is a little limited

Andrew and Renee know that there is something going on with Neil and are worried but he wont say anything about it and is acting normal, if not happier

When Baltimore happens he tells Andrew "thank you, you were amazing" and he tells Renee "get to the bus safe" before he disappears into the crowd ominously

Renee didnt stop Andrew from choking the life out of Kevin and called Jean in a blind panic to see if he knew anything

Kevin started speaking and she reasoned that Jean didnt know anything

Renee was just as angry as Andrew and all but told him to kill Kevin before she reigned herself in, clutching her cross and praying that her sweet, dumbass redhead would get home safe

Instead of wymack ((mostly because I never saw the physics of that one)) it was Renee who was handcuffed to Andrew and neither of them slowed down the second they realized where Neil was

Neil fell into Renees chest while Andrew checked his injuries and Renee about lost her damn mind when Allison mentioned the bet but kept her calm because Neil was there and he was safe

The FBI relented and let the two of them tag along with Neil and when he signed his name, "Neil Josten" he took a deep breath and allowed Nathaneil to die peacefully in his mind, because Neil was free in a way Nathaneil never could be

Renee understood that look, Natalie had to do the same, tucked away in a corner and put to rest in a mental grave. They shared a look of deep understanding

After everything is said and done its still andrew and neil and Renee and Andrew and neil and Renee and all three of them combined and their special and happy and they keep each other sane

During the girls last year there is endless teasing and quips made about the three of them but they couldnt care less because its their last year and they are going to make the most of it

Andrew and Aaron have it out and both of them decide to chose their "nothings" over each other, and because of this Renee takes Aarons place in the monsters

Andrew and Aaron start building their relationship from the ground up, and its hard, but he has both his *everythings* there to keep him sane

Andrew and Renee change their last names to "josten" because they fought so hard for that name and technically three people cant get married

Speaking of marriage, Dan and Matt get married in Dans last year and Renee and Allison are bridesmaids, Neil and Andrew are groomsmen. The three of them dance and congratulate the happy couple

They win championships that year and, mostly just to fuck with the crowd, Neil and Renee each kiss Andrews cheek right before they walk off court. Its fun and silly and they celebrate afterwards and care so deeply for each other

When Renee leaves it hits hard, she calls and texts as much as she can but its hard. Neil loses a little bit of his spark and Andrew cant help but miss their other third

Neil and Andrew start sparing and essentially dont leave each others side

Matt is also having a time of it with the girls being gone, and during this year its that Matt moves into Andrew and Neils dorm officially

Kevin transfers to the Trojans with Jean and Jeremy and is happier there, and theyre all happy for him

During Andrews last year Neil all but loses his mind

Renee officially retires from exy that year and moves back to Palmetto state to help with the transition because she knows its hitting both of them pretty hard

Andrew is anxious and cant decide whether he wants to keep playing exy, or go straight into law

Neil doesnt know what he is going to do for a year without either of them and is constantly in a state of panic

Both Andrew and Renee try their hardest to keep the rabbit sane because they know how scary the thought of being alone is and Neil will absolutely never be alone

When Andrew graduates Renee and Neil make one of those obnoxious signs and all the foxes show up for support and its bittersweet but mostly amazing

They also win championships that year again, Andrew locked the goal down for the entire game and wymack was so proud, even though he only had one of his kids left in the coup ((I would say nest but considering the fandom...))

Neils fifth year is hard

Andrew decided to retire his exy racket and go straight into law, finally selling the Columbia house and getting a better place about an hour outside Palmetto

Renee joins the peace corps ((to be honest I only kind of know what they do so bear with me apologies)) and is overseas for a little over two years

Neil goes home to Andrew every weekend ((their partying days behind them and their movie marathon days ahead)) and both of them call Renee every day

When Neil graduates Renee gets leave for a weekend and flys in to celebrate with them

Its one of the best weekends they had ever had

When Renee retires ((from what I can tell its usually two years of required service but correct me if Im wrong)) the three of them move in together in their little home outside Palmetto and are happy

Neil plays professionally for about 10 years, Renee starts teaching, Andrew is a lawyer

Its perfect

Andrew and Renee still spar, and Neil still runs every morning

Renee makes a pot of coffee before he gets back and they never run out of sugar despite andrews best attempts

Renee teaches Neil how to make cookies because Andrew burns every batch he touches almost

They watch all the foxes on TV and rep Allisons athlesiure brand every where they go essentially

The foxes have Thanksgiving all together at their house every year because as Wymack gets older flying is bad for his heart

Its the off season of the year Neil finally retired ((now a math professor)) that they announce to their family that Renee is pregnant

Andrew is terrified he is going to be a bad father, Neil doesnt know where to start and Renee has faith that it is all going to be okay

They never check to see whos kid it is biologically ((though the odds are its probably neils)) because it doesnt matter

Their prescious twins are brought into the world with three parents, four grandparents and more aunts and uncles than any one kid can count

Renee was often sick while she was pregnant and neil researched every method to help with nausea possible

He got Kevin ((who also eventually retired from exy and because a sports dietitian)) to help him find recipes that she could actually eat

Andrew was very protective while she was carrying and if she even so much as looked at a door handle it became a race between him and neil

Her water broke while her and Neil were coming home from a long day of teaching, Andrew was still at the office

Neil took on andrews approach to driving during their trip to the hospital and held her hand every step of the way

Andrew got there just in the nick of time, pressing a kiss to her forehead and taking her other hand, making eye contact with neil as she pushed out the first of the twins

It was a short labor and each of the boys held a baby, foreheads touching and ankles crossed, as Renee took a much needed nap

All of the foxes flew/drove in to see the babies and the three of them

It was a special time

It was surprisingly Neil who taught their kids how to bake cookies, the same recipie that Renee taught him

Andrew and neil get breakfast tacos every Saturday morning at their favorite little food truck while Renee and the kids sleep

Neil goes to church with Renee and their kids every Sunday, while Andrew works

He can never fully heal from his religious trauma, but he knows its important to Renee and he knows that Neil has found a comfort in God as well ((i can never decide if I headcannon Neil as Christian or atheist but today its christian))

A few months before the twins were born Andrew stopped wearing his armbands all together, the knives having long since made their disappearance

And he, in an age appropriate way ofc, teaches their kids what his scars were and reminds them to talk to someone and never feel like their only resort is to hurt themselves

They love each other so dearly and they love their kids so much and its special and happy and they love their lives

When the three of them die their cremated together and the twins each take a smaller urn for their respective mantles to hold

[cabeswaterdrowned]

in my head Neil’s first Betsy visit and Andrew + Renee’s bets about it happen in TRK I’d forgotten it was in this book. The way Neil reacts to and talks about Renee is sooo hilarious

[verdiris]

Post game team shopping trip let's gooooo 🤠

[tscsunlover]

got my rainbow crate all for the game books! Im gonna add the bonus chapters here for anyone who didn’t buy the books cause they were EXPENSIVE

links aren’t working for some reason and you can only add ten pictures to a post so i’m gonna add the next two books in reposts

THE FOXHOLE COURT BONUS CHAPTERS SPOILERS BELOW

[scholliski]

i cannot believe that Renee has canonically looked at two people throughout the books and thought ‘would smash’ and those people are Andrew and Jean… girl what’s going on

[dcvina-claires]

fake idgafer i saw you beat up four men for being homophobic to your cousin. i saw you kill your brother’s abuser. i saw you befriend a kindhearted religious girl even though you knew the others would tease you. i saw you offer two traumatized boys protection when they thought they would never get any. i saw you ask “how many kids” when you found out that your abuser targeted more people. i saw you sitting on the roof even though you’re afraid of heights because you didn’t want to feel nothing anymore

[mini-minish]

neil medalhista inspirado naquela fotona da flavinha ✨🦊 neil at the podium inspired on a picture of flavia saraiva

// comms open!

[realgansey]

“He needed to know what Nathaniel was saying in this historic moment.”

Meanwhile Neil

[ninyard]

(the au where andreil gets outed pt.2)

[hamrikaa]

'"You're a Fox," Andrew said, like it was that simple, and maybe it was.'

I could've added a lot more details to this and it's not 100% accurate to the book, but I had to stop myself or this would've taken me another week to finish lmao

[powderofcats15]

Renee walker!

Redrew her because i wasn't too proud of my first interpretation of her

[linneart]

I’m back and in aftg hell 😩

[dawnatlas]

neil "i stopped paying attention 20 minutes ago im just happy to be with my family" josten (with one notable exception)

[waestlandbaby]

Something that stood out to me in my aftg reread was how unhinged the upperclassmen actually are.

Matt fucking Boyd and his willingness to absolutely go at anyone, anywhere, any time. There's a scene where Kevin tells him to foul another player on the opposing team and Neil specifically points out the unrepentant grin he has on his face as he waltzes off court after it happens. He also is described as the best player on the foxes line up multiple times by Neil and his play style is aggressive, he uses his height and build to his advantage and he doesn't hold back.

Allison and Andrew have the exact same style of serving cunt, in that if you don't interest them they will not even acknowledge your existence. A player from another team attempted to score on the goal and both Allison and Andrew stood still and watched them miss with such bitchy indifference it probably gave that player ptsd. They also both have a habit of cutting through bullshit and demanding truth ESPECIALLY regarding topics other people would shy away from. Badass blonde bombshells.

Dan Wilds is just as rabid about Exy as Kevin and her every first thought goes to the game first just like Kevin. She's just better at making her second thought go to something else. She literally knew the second Seth was out of the picture that there was an opportunity there and she didn't even really hesitate to talk to Matt about it. She looked at Neil and whatever fucked up little thing he had going on with Andrew (as it would have looked to an outsider, let's remember that they all knew Andrew took him to Columbia and drugged him) and was like, how can we use this to make the team stronger. Like Nicky used Neil to manipulate Andrew but Dan did it better and with much more calculation.

Renee I don't even really need to talk about because Neil was always wary of her but there is one scene where Neil let's slip about his father's penchant for knives and Renee's reaction and understanding gave me chills. Renee uses that part of her to protect and that's really great because she would be terrifying otherwise.

[overheard-at-palmetto]

[popcorn-ceiling-chickemn]

Do you think Andrew was high when he told Renee to tell Neil he was gay? Do you think she asked him to confirm it multiple times before she agreed to? Do you think she was internally screaming as she watched Neil realize Andrew wasn't dating anyone and looked relieved? Do you think she saw them getting closer and was mentally cheering them on, letting Neil join their random talks and watching Andrew's eyes follow him when he wasn't right next to him? Anyway props to Renee for being a wingman.