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mildly entertaining pjo fandom curse (mostly in that you can make games out of it):
everybody draws Piper showing skin. half the time Shel as well. literally almost EVERYBODY. go look at Piper fanart. is she wearing a crop top? i bet she is. or if she's wearing a dress hers is gonna be one of the most revealing. bonus points if they gave her a belly button piercing. and it's almost always only Piper and/or Shel. i thought we had a whole discussion about sexualizing young indigenous girls back in like 2021 but i guess nobody processed that part cause pjo fandom acts like if they dont have Piper show her stomach or have her shirt ride up they'll die.
the curse is that you will never unsee this. have fun with that.
#pjo#riordanverse#piper mclean#my friend inflicted this curse onto me and now i must inflict it unto you#like obviously just drawing Piper wearing a croptop by itself is not egregious on it's own but its EVERYBODY *ONLY* draws her in a croptop#as like her default outfit. constantly.#and *ONLY* her. this is not done for any other characters - including other Aphrodite kids. Only Piper (and maybe Shel)#anyways this is what i have to deal with every time i look at piper fanart#its like same 4 things: crop top. bad skin tones and/or stereotyped nose. feathers. and/or beaded earrings#thats it thats all Piper fanart in a nutshell#(the last one like nine times out of ten ends up just feeling like exoticization)#(cause if pjo fandom doesnt have a visual indicator of her being native american or cant ''make her look 'more native''' they die or smth)#btw if you ever say the phrase ''make her look 'more native''' about Piper or Shel or etc i'll eat your kneecaps#saying those words gives me legal permission to hunt you for sport. btw. it also means you owe me 20 dollars.#anyways fun drinking game or etc: take a shot every time piper has a crop top or her shirt up somehow in fanart#warning: my friend and i played this game with water and we both finished like two full bottles of water in like an hour#its REALLY BAD#we literally have a game of every time we share piper fanart in the gc one of us will call out ''her stomach is showing'' and we all scream
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Mikusona Monday!! I tried to do a native themed one, most of my references based off of makah outfits and my own experience seeing and wearing native dance outfits!
#I’m really out of touch with my native heritage so if anything seems stereotypical I’m sorry it’s not my intention.#1emon draws!#vocaloid miku#hatsune miku#miku#mikusona#mikusona monday#native american#native design#native
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sometimes i am forcibly confronted with the white colonial perspective of indigenous peoples modernly and it always shocks the shit out of me. like just how blatant and unapolegetically indigenous ppls r seen as a thing of the past, were wiped out or just. dont think of us at all.
i been reading a reddit exchange on a post critiquing the 'go back to your own country' shit and the comments mentioning indigenous peoples being the true natives of north america are consistently met with people saying 'but we killed 99% of them' or some shit like 'almost all americans have never even met a native'. like fuck are we unicorns or something?
#one mfer replied to me bout how to almost all americans natives are an abstract fantasy.#HELLO?#'never met a native' no you absolutely have you just think all indig ppl MUST look lile the indian stereotype
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It kinda makes me sad that some people will (maybe hypothetically) see Micky Dolenz wore a “Native American style” headdress to Monterey Pop Festival and think he was participating in cultural appropriation.
Because, he truly believes/d he is of Native American descent. His headdress was meant to be appreciation to his heritage. AND when asked by a tribe in need to donate money to help members who had been wrongly imprisoned… he put his money where his mouth was.
So, like sure it might have been some (mostly) American white ignorance, but at the very least he wasn’t doing it all for show. He really care about a culture he thought was part of his own.
And he also (kind of, maybe unrelated but similar) went through a journey of having to definitively decide to NOT straighten his hair anymore. Which… might not sound huge but in the 60s that was A CHOICE. Especially when as a CHILD like a little boy he was one tv where they dyed his hair blonde so he seemed like a more picturesque, ideal American boy.
And, not to make it a side note, but one of the songs he wrote specifically mentions and calls to questions why Native Americans (Indians) are living in the worst land we have to offer in America.
All that to say, there’s room for criticism AND I think he was genuine in his attempt to care and bring attention to issues facing Native American people in the 1960s. And when challenged head on to support them, he did.
#Micky dolenz#he told this story literally in 2014 too like it was not a big show#anyway#I get how it looks not good#but I really genuinely think Micky had the best of intentions#but that’s me talking#I’m not an authority#and of course there’s issues#he was still calling Native Americans ‘Indians’#and of course it’s a stereotype that white people believe they are 1/32 Native American now#doesn’t mean it’s not true… but it’s a stereotype#the Monkees
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remember when archie sonic made the echidnas british colonizers and not only were n*zi echidnas introduced but the guys they were actively being racist against (the dingoes) were portrayed as pissy bad guys, "appropriated" the echidna's technology (despite the echidnas themselves appropriated their land) because they "couldn't create technology of their own" and also more n*zi caricatures too
and then the spirit of one of their colonizers banished them to desert superhell
#literally everytime they dealt with native cultures the archie writers fucked up SO BAD#like the cat country with a modern portuguese name stereotypically mesoamerican aesthetics and an egyptian queen#OR THE FACT THAT THEY MOVED THE WOLF PACK#WHO WERE CLEARLY MEANT TO BE NORTH AMERICAN NATIVES#TO SOUTH AMERICA#BEVAUSE AMERICAN NATIVES ARE ALL THE SAME FUCKING THING APPARENTLY#and when they showed pachacamac it was soooo clear that he was redesigned by white people#that wasnt pachacamac that was patchacamack#or when they made the journey to the west adaptation#and thought it would be a good fucking idea to mix chinese and japanese cultures as the same fucking thing#i like pre sgw archie but those kinds of things make it SO HARD to stomach it through...#sth#archie sonic#in this house we hate ken penders#text post
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hey so has anyone else noticed how the fandom has shrunk boothill down to "redneck who hates the ipc." or is that just me
#hey so why is the native american character boiled down to a modern american stereotype. Hey#<- modern american And colonizer stereotype actually.#hsr#boothill
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i always find it funny when ppl describe sasappis as the voice of reason. i mean, that man has never said anything reasonable in his life. he is purposefully as unreasonable as possible. just for fun.
#i mean he's a very funny and intelligent character but he is NOT wise or reasonable#(maybe yall are describing him as being wise and reasonable because that's a stereotype about native americans) who said that?#cbs ghosts#chesney 🦅
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rio bravo is one of the the most diverse movies dino's been in but statistically speaking there should be a black person somewhere. texas was 40% black in the 1880s.
#typewriter dings#(funnily enough pedro gonzalez gonzalez who plays carlos robante is actually a mexican american from texas)#(but estelita rodriguez who plays consuelo is from cuba)#sergeants 3 is up there but like...some of the native characters aren't played by native people (and also they are stereotyped to hell)#and canonball run (sammy and jackie chan)#(canonball run would be the most diverse is the sheikh was actually played by an arab man)
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Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies 1941 Episode 36: Saddle Silly
Written by Rich Hogan
Directed by Chuck Jones
Animated by Phil DeLara
Voice characterizations by Mel Blanc

DISCLAIMER: Contains stereotypical depictions of Native Americans.
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i had a dream that i opened a book and with the text there were printed photos, which played like videos with each scene when you looked at them. the videos were of a stage play about julius caesar, and it was called 'Great Braves.' one of the actors was ray stevenson (looking as he did when he played that soldier in BBC's Rome) and his line that i remember was an exuberant "We will be as great braves," in reference to some battle the men were going to embark on
I have literally no idea where this came from but it was a pretty rousing performance. quite Shakespearean
#where did julius caesar learn a euro stereotypical term given to native american warriors? no idea#who wrote this play???#and why did the concept of a 'brave' even appear to me??#i've seen it once maybe when it appeared in horizon zero dawn and i had to look up the history behind it#but that was years ago
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Really funny how More Fun Comics #73 introduced two of DC's most popular superheroes, both of whom had wildly different Golden Age origins than any other origin since, and yet both origins are on completely different axis of 'would be cool if they were an Elseworld story someday'.
To whit, Aquaman's Golden Age origin sees his father as an undersea explorer who discovers the ruin of Atlantis, and uses their advanced technology to grant his infant son the ability to breathe underwater and communicate with sea-life. I'd be really interested in a modern take on this idea - I did see a fanart a few years back that reimagined Golden Age Aquaman as a tech hero, old-school divers suit and all, and hell it would even be cool to have an Aquaman story not focused on Atlantis, but instead on Aquaman as Protector of the Seas.
On the other hand, Golden Age Oliver Queen is a white guy who has... ahem, ""gathered"" a huge collection of Native American* artifacts and cultural relics, which he keeps for himself and used to train himself in archery and the like, before all of the artifacts are destroyed when criminals burn his house down. Oliver seeks out a secret, long-lost Native American* city and runs into Roy Harper when his plane crashes. Roy has been on the island the city is buried under for years, with his only companion being Quoag, his Native American* ""manservant"" who talks like every racist Asian caricature from the Golden Age because I guess the writers were too used to writing WWII propaganda to be creative in their racism. Anyway, thieves show up, Quoag dies and is immediately forgotten, they force in some really painful references to Green Arrow and Speedy (like, if you thought the reasoning for Speedy's name in Arrow being 'Oliver's sister does drugs' was painfully forced...) and eventually Oliver and Roy find the Native American* city, which is made out of solid gold because... reasons. Rather than tell anyone about it, Oliver and Roy decide to dismantle the city, sell it brick by brick, and use the money to become wealthy, and also fund their superhero exploits because apparently they decided that was a good idea.
If DC ever brings back Golden Age Oliver Queen under any circumstances and the story doesn't end with Modern Ollie and Roy teaming up to shank him and redistribute his wealth, I'm going to kill someone.
*I say 'Native American' knowing that it's incredibly broad, but the comic doesn't offer a specific group. It also... doesn't call them Native Americans, which I'm pretty sure you can guess.
#dc#dc comics#golden age of comics#aquaman#green arrow#should be mentioned just in case someone wants to fact-check: More Fun Comics 73 is not the Green Arrow origin I'm discussing#I think it's 89?#what's especially weird about GA is that ever since that comic came out the GA franchise has had a weird thing about Native Americans#from Roy's revised backstory being the adopted son of a Native American (but. y'know. still white)#to Oliver full-on cosplaying a stereotypical Native American (complete with headdress and redface paint) in one of the GL/GA issues#to even the good Nu52 run borrowing really heavily from Native American aesthetics for the Outsiders arc#(although that last one may just be me reading too much into it)#like honestly it's really weird#and makes me think we should just make Roy Navajo already
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Been reading a book about the development of the English language that includes chapters related to English languages/dialects and their impact with class. Thinking about how much people freaked out and made it a meme/joke that Prime Wars Overlord had a US Southern/"cowboy" accent. About 🤏 this close to deciding to write all of my stories going forward with all characters speaking Texas-accented English as the default instead of Standard English going forward bc I'm annoyed about my accent family being treated like a joke and/or used as a sign that horrible things deserve to happen to them
#squiggposting#discourse#i am a little bit salty. maybe more than a little bit#i'm also training in voiceover rn and the accent standardization there annoys the fuck out of me#gotta speak in Generic American Accent or Proper British English or else your accent is designated some sort of caricature or stereotype#also to be clear i don' mean writin' accents phonetically lahk this#just them using accented regionalisms and slang and ways of speaking and whatnot#i'm getting sick and tired of accent based classism honestly sjdklfsk#and also honestly as a hobbyist linguist of sorts i think doing a formal study into the different kinds of accents here#beyond just intrinsic knowledge as a native would be really cool#anyways every character in my stories from random hicks to optimus fucking prime himself is going to use y'all and other regionalisms#and it's not going to be a joke or to show lower class-ness or w/e#i might even throw in some texas german too if i can find substantial enough resources in it
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a horse game appropriating and misusing Native American culture for The Aesthetic? It's more likely than you think.
#star stable has dream catchers that they associate with their magic druid characters#the minecraft mod SWEM made a stereotypical horse with the feathers and handprints#ropin' ranch (a browser horse breeding game) has TONS of Native American imagery EVERYWHERE - it'd take too long to list them all
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Hey, look at me! I did it. I listened to a new-me-album. I don’t do that very often.
It took me 2.5 years to listen through all the mechs albums and feel like I have spent a good amount of time with each, feel content with them. Reach for them all equally as much (except maybe TtbT2, which is my favorite).
It has taken me 8 months to decide to listen to a second Jessica Law album. Not because I didn’t like Languid Little Lies, but because I absolutely adore it!
I’m just so happy and content to listen to the same stuff all the time that I don’t ever feel the desire to seek out new stuff. That goes for music, podcasts, tv, movies.
I feel a bit bad for not having more knowledge on the other projects mechs members have done and continue to do. I would like to love everyone’s work, it’s just gonna take me years to get through everything sufficiently. But also that means I don’t have to fucking worry if I do come to a point that I’m desperate for something new because there will be something to reach for.
And like, I didn’t like HNOC for quite a while. I continued to listen to it on occasion because I liked everything else I knew by them; didn’t understand why I didn’t have any enjoyment from it. I think it was mainly because I had almost zero knowledge of Arthurian legend. Had to read Gawain and the Green Knight in high school and listened to a retelling of the story where Merlin gets trapped in a cave forever by a lady on Myths and Legends (podcast); didn’t really care at all. Wanted to care (about Arthurian Legend) because I knew that a lot of Celtic myth got fucked up and put in there. So everytime I listened I’d end up reading more about Arthurian legend because I couldn’t remember who was who until finally I understood it well enough that I could actually enjoy everything smart about it and the music itself and trans Mordred and more and more. I didn’t have that issue with OUaTiS or UDaD or TBI because I had knowledge of European fairytales and Greek myth and enough about Norse myth already. Same reason I usually skip Drop Dead, the first song on my favorite mechs album. I just don’t care about it at all, in an ambivalent way. It doesn’t do anything for me. But I also have no experience with Crypt of the Necrodancer. But I listen to it on occasion because there’s nothing wrong with it and maybe this time will be the time it clicks.
#the mechanisms#jessica law#i also have apd and a general processing disability so that likely exacerbated my inability to follow hnoc without knowledge the legends#like i think very very many people will think its silly that i literally couldnt follow the album before that#but my brain doesnt sort information into memory categories well *and* struggles with auditory info#sorry that i couldnt remember that in legend mordred in the son of arthur and morgause. arthurs sister#or who is gawain and who is galahad#i still get those name mixed up but just the names not the characters#i was very good at remembering that lancelot will only fuck arthurs wife though. thats wild in a morally monogamous society#but its also the whole reason when youre with a bunch of people and your introducing yourself youre supposed to give a fun fact#or your favorite color or something#the more info you have to link together. the easier it is to recall.#anyway not sure why im telling yall this#and i really like hnoc now!#do i have concerns about it regarding the fact its a western and the ‘indians’ are cannibals?#yeah absolutely!#do i think consuming the flesh of a human is inherently morally wrong?#no!#comes down to the negative stereotypes against native americans#obviously saxons arent native americans but they are filling that role in the western setting#im sure theres way more to be analyzed regarding that. but i am not the right person for that.#its 1.45 am and i am crocheting a giant millipede#languid little lies#udad#hnoc#ouatis#tbi#the littlest libertine#i guess i havent spent a lot of time with dttm but thats because it songs from other albums#and the versions ive seen didn’t have all the audio so i didnt even get all the death stories
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Made the mistake of going outside because I forgot there were 25,000 Americans in Dublin today for American college football matches happening in the Aviva… I wish for death… I’m about to run home and quarantine myself there til they leave.
#also everyone’s wearing jerseys of that one team that’s called a slur for native Americans and it has the offensive stereotypical native#mascot on them#like ew keep that shit in America#ireland#irish#Dublin#America#usa#us american#college football
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Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies 1941 Episode 19: Hiawatha's Rabbit Hunt
Written by Michael Maltese
Directed by Friz Freleng
Animated by Gil Turner
Voice characterizations by Mel Blanc

DISCLAIMER: Contains some Native-American stereotyping.
#looney tunes#merrie melodies#friz freleng#mel blanc#bugs bunny#native american#stereotypes#academy award nominee
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