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Once upon a time the man I loved reproached me for my apparent passivity with other men. We were in the kitchen having breakfast: he told me that he was afraid of that habit particular to women in general and me in particular, in his opinion, of being either unable or unwilling to resist uninvited male desire, of the madness of giving in to whatever they asked of us. He couldn't understand how hard it is to say no, to be confronted with the desire of another and to reject itâhow hard it is and possibly how pointless. How could he not understand the sometimes overwhelming necessity of yielding to the other's desire to give yourself a better chance of escaping it? Sylvia Plath writes in her journal: "For instance, I could hold my nose, close my eyes, and jump blindly into the waters of some man's insides, submerging myself until his purpose becomes my purpose, his life, my life, and so on. One fine day I would float to the surface, quite drowned and supremely happy with my newfound selfless self."
Suite for Barbara Loden (tr. Natasha Lehrer & CĂ©cile Menon)
Nathalie LĂ©ger
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"hĂ©las, sâexclame Villiers de LâIsle-Adam, que nâavons-nous pu phonographier les bruits du passĂ©, combien de sons mystĂ©rieux ont Ă©tĂ© perçus par nos prĂ©dĂ©cesseurs qui, faute dâun appareil convenable pour les retenir, sont tombĂ©s Ă jamais dans le nĂ©ant ?"
â Nathalie LĂ©ger, L'Exposition
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"Even the most deserted wasteland, the most miserable place, can outwit fright in a last stand; it needs no more than a pebble to sustain dusk's insubstantial loveliness, and sadness; ignorance and deception are momentarily appeased in a last trick of the light."
â Nathalie LĂ©ger, Suite for Barbara Loden
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can weapons fall in love? / Unknown / The White Dress, Nathalie Leger / Unknown / Letters to Milena - Franz Kafka / The Song of Achilles, Madeline Miller / Sarah J. Maas, Heir of Fire / Carol Ann Duffy, "Medusa" / Yves Olade, Bloodsport / Unknown Tumblr Post / Unknown / Caitlin Siehl, "Cut" / Unknown / Unknown / Margarita Karapanou, Rien ne va Plus (trans. Karen Emmerich) / the unabridged journals of Sylvia Plath, Sylvia Plath / Garden (say it like dat), SZA
#this came to me in some type of vision#in the middle of the night#it drives me crazy how theyre kinda the same person same soul different story#damian wayne#jon kent#jonathan kent#superfam#batfam#web weave#parallelism#damijon#jondami#cosmicbird#supersons#super sons
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learning to be my mother
What We Become, Hailey Noecker / Mirror Traps, Hera Lindsey Bird / unknown / On Earth Weâre Briefly Gorgeous, Ocean Vuong / legitimately fucking dean winchester from supernatural / Elektra, Sophokles / When I Grow Up I Want to Be a List of Further Possibilities, Chen Chen / The White Dress, Nathalie Leger / Sharp Objects, Gillian Flynn
#web weaving#motherhood#web weave#parallels#gillian flynn#ocean vuong#on earth we're briefly gorgeous#mommy issues#feariginals#vivelie
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All my mother wanted at the end of her life was to understand. Had she been the victim of an injustice, or was it she who was responsible for her unhappiness? I am quite familiar with her unhappiness, I could even claim to be mine too.
The White Dress, Nathalie Leger//House of the Dragon (2022-)
#house of the dragon#hotd#got#asoiaf#game of thrones#a song of ice and fire#alicent hightower#aemond targaryen#aegon ii targaryen#helaena targaryen#olivia cooke#emily carey#tom glynn carney#phia saban#ewan mitchell#parallels#web weaving#mine#on motherhood#team green#grief#unhappiness#dysfunctional family#hotd spoilers#hotd season 2#green kids
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Identifying Nathalie and Marla
So, a week or two ago I was out here, minding my own business, thinking about DBH concept art and the new info about Nathalie, and there was something bothering me: I knew this woman. Iâd seen her face before, and not just the concept art, but her actual face.
It took me a day or two to finally place her, but:
Alona Tal. Sheâs Alona Tal, and I was sure of it; sheâs so distinctive, and I was very familiar with her face from watching Supernatural (who knew being a Supernatural fan would actually be good for somethingâŠ) She was in her mid twenties during the time DBH was in production, and popular enough then to be potentially known by concept artists.
I told @jamdbhâ my suspicions, and they quickly located what is likely the source reference:
Although sheâs looking a different direction, the image is otherwise identical if overlaid onto Nathalie, down to the strands of hair.
So, realizing it was Alona, we started looking at other concept art pieces. Another one of Nathalie was recognizably Alona:Â
And finding the matching reference was easy enough (again, the face lines up and is enough on its own, but her hair strand pattern is also exactly the same):Â
So thatâs cool. But then I was looking at concept art of Marla, and realized it wasnât just Nathalie; Marla, at least in one piece of art, is also Alona.Â
So now we have two different characters whose art is referenced from the same actress, but Iâm not completely sure that all of Marlaâs concept art is referenced from Alona.Â
There are a few other concept pieces of Marla that Iâm suspicious are of Alona, but they only look like her in some ways and not in others, and I havenât found reference pics yet so the juryâs still out:
Another image doesnât look like Alona to me at all, but that doesnât necessarily mean it isnât:Â
So at least one and potentially more pieces of art for Marla are Alona. But, interestingly enough, Alona is certainly not the model for the blonde android from the Eden Club art:Â
Iâm not sure who this is, if anyone specific (I suspect Amanda Seyfried due to the eyes and face shape but Iâm on the fence about if it is or isnât, and I havenât been able to find a matching reference despite searching), but itâs definitely not Alona.
So, to summarize:
Nathalieâs concept art is based on Alona Tal, at least for the two images shown here. I need to go back and look at other art for her and see if I can identify her as Alona in them as well.
At least one of Marlaâs concept art pieces is also Alona. Potentially others are as well.
The Eden Club traci is not Alona. None of the pictures Iâve seen for Eden Club (the one of the entrance, the one of Traci sitting on the bed, and the one of the dead Traci on the floor) look like Alona and in fact Iâm not convinced theyâre all the same person in general.
So yeah! Make of that what you will. Although my original suspicion was that Mikael Leger had simply used an actress he thought was pretty for Nathalieâs art, the fact that Alona is also the reference for at least one art of Marla means itâs possible she was cast and then her role shuffled as the changes were made to the story. But whatever happened, clearly we ended up with Minka for North, who did an amazing job, though I canât help but think of how great Alona mightâve been too.
#detroit become human#dbh traci#dbh nathalie#dbh marla#dbh north#sort of#my posts#anyway yeah I thought this was super interesting
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How long do we mourn our mothers? Unfinished business. Unspoken sentences that burn on in the night. Tangled thickets of stymied love. â Tay and her mother.
pinterest / susan sontag / supernatural, s12e22 / days where my whole world is my bed, fatima aamer bilal / the witch (2015), dir. robert eggers / mothers, daughters, and inheriting self-hatred, ella wilson / fast car, tracy chapman / @/boringangel / bite the hand, boygenius / la prieta, gloria e. anzaldua / columbus (2017), dir. kogonada / pinterest / with or without you, u2 / pinterest / kyoto, phoebe bridgers / the white dress, nathalie leger / on earth we're briefly gorgeous, ocean vuong / unknown / in the blood, john mayer.
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arabella + rebecca being mirrors of each other
honeytuesday, tumblr / author unknown / erika l. sanchez, lessons on expulsion / agustin gĂłmez-arcos, the carnivorous lamb /nathalie leger, the white dress / mishka jenkins, the wayhaven chronicles / joan tierney, the elektra complex / gillian flynn, sharp objects / sophokles, elektra / mishka jenkins, the wayhaven chronicles
#twc: arabella#twc detective#web weaving#hi to all the detectives who hate rebecca but are her spitting image đ#have you ever met somebody who stares at their own reflection with such contempt?#im just obsessed with this dynamic okay . KSJDJDBDKDKD
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UNE SEMAINE POUR SAMUEL BECKETT
CrĂ©ation de lâatelier metope            8 au 12 novembre 2023
SALLE EIFFEL Â RUE DE LA TOUR NEUVEÂ 45000 ORLEANS
3 SPECTACLES
Ces 3 crĂ©ations sont rassemblĂ©es sous le titre gĂ©nĂ©rique E N C O R EÂ
-Â PAS MOI
avec MARTINE HEQUET
- BERCEUSE
avec CATHERINE GAUTIER
- LE DEPEUPLEUR
Avec DENIS MERCIER et CLOVIS ROTA
MERCREDI 8, VENDREDI 10, SAMEDI 11 novembre  20H30
JEUDI 9 novembre 20H30
(en réserve une possible représentation supplémentaire le dimanche 12 novembre à 17H00)
2 RENCONTRES
« Toute la vie on attend que çà vous fasse une vie »
SAMEDI 11 novembre 11H30 -13H30
S. Beckett, lâĂ©crivain :       Dâun ouvrage abandonnĂ©Â Â Â Â rĂ©cit lu par JEAN CHRISTOPHE COCHARD
S. Beckett, le résistant :     Saint LÎ, capitale des ruines  texte lu par ERIC CENAT
S. Beckett, le traducteur :   4 poĂšmes de Paul Eluard  lecture JONATHAN WAITE en langue anglaise sous-titrĂ©e titrĂ©e                                        Â
S. Beckett, le critique dâart : Bram Van Velde, peintre de lâempĂȘchement (extraits) Une critique en forme de dialogue entre lâĂ©crivain et un critique dâart
 avec HUGO ZERMATI et PHILIPPE POLET    mise en voix MANOUCHKA RECOCHEÂ
Une Ćuvre qui passionne :
 NATHALIE LEGER, PASCALE CASANOVA, ANNE ATIK, CHARLES JULIET JEAN REMON, MARTIN ESSLIN, DIDIER ANZIEU,LUDOVIC JANVIER saluent lâhomme et lâĆuvre Â
SĂ©lection des extraits et lecture MARTINE HEQUET, JACQUES LE NY
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Micro trottoir et enfance de lâart avec les enfants du quartier des BlossiĂšres OrlĂ©ans
DIMANCHE 12 NOVEMBREÂ 11H30 â 13H30
Des récits, des voix
-Â LâIMAGE
avec GERARD AUDAX
- SOUBRESAUT
avec CATHERINE GAUTIER
- AU LOIN UN OISEAU
avec JACQUES LE NY
- TEXTE POUR RIEN (n°XIII)
avec CATHERINE GAUTIER
POUR LE FINAL DE CETTE SEMAINE SAMUEL BECKETT, lâATELIER METOPE prĂ©pare une micro ballade en compagnie de monsieur et madame ROONEY, les principaux personnages de TOUS CEUX QUI TOMBENT (piĂšce radiophonique Ă©crite par SAMUEL BECKETT, Ă la demande de la BBC). Diffusion des enregistrements salle EIFFEL, le dimanche 12 novembre Ă partir de 13H00)
LES ĆUVRES DE SAMUEL BECKETT sont publiĂ©es aux EDITIONS DE MINUITÂ
POUR LA REALISATION DE CETTE SEMAINE AVEC SAMUEL BECKETT LâATELIER METOPE REMERCIE CELLES ET CEUX QUI, ACTRICES, ACTEURS, VIDEASTE, INGENIEUR DU SON , MUSICIENS, SCULPTEURS ,PEINTRES, CERAMISTES, Y CONTRIBUENT ARTISTIQUEMENTÂ
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Guilaine Agnez, Gérard Audax, Daniel Beghdad, Eric Cénat, Jean Christophe Cochard, Catherine Gautier, Béatrice Grebot, Franck Jublot, Denis Mercier, Evelyne Poinloup ,Manouchka Récoché, Alexis Renou, AdÚle et Albane Rousset, Jonathan Waite, Hugo Zermati
CONCEPTION ET COORDINATION GENERALEÂ JACQUES LE NY
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Barbara said that she had no grand story to tell. No wind of History, none of the political turmoil of the times, nothing illustrative of any social drama. Violence, yes, but the acceptable face of violence, the kind of banal cruelty enacted within the family. That was all she said. Her own story, enmeshed in this one, is probably no more than the ordinary story of a lonely, unloved child, a child who has been silenced, forced to submit to someone stronger than they are; the kind of sadness that it is not easy to get overâa commonplace story. That is the only reason Barbara made films. To soothe. To heal the pain, assuage the humiliation, process the fear. âWandaâs character is based on my own life and on my character, and also on the way I understand other peopleâs lives. Everything comes from my own experience. Everything I do is me." Once, during an interview, Marguerite Duras lost her temper: âSelf-portrait, I donât understand what that means. Really, I donât. How do you want me to describe myself? You know, knowledge is a difficult thing, something that would need to be reassessed, the knowledge of a person. Who are you? Go on, answer me⊠see?â Wanda never cries. Actually she does once, much later on, standing at the sink in a motel bathroom. Sheâs crying and keeps saying I canât do this, I canât do this. And perhaps one other time, too, but itâs difficult to tell; after that time in the darkened cinema when someone stole what little money she had: night has fallen, she walks into a bar and goes straight to the bathroom, sheâs splashing her face with water for a long time, we donât know if she is crying then. When I cry I overdo it, I am overwhelmed, incapable of holding back the tears, incapable even of dissembling. Tears are perhaps the only articulation, however monstrous, of the part of me that is completely shameless. Sometimes when I am alone I find myself howling silently in front of the mirror as if I wanted to verify a hypothesis. All I can see is a frozen mask of tears, the twisted mouth, its perfect symmetry contorted, its fine lines glistening, my breath in apnea, its silence brutally imprinted on damp skin, a voice asking who is there, beneath the deformed skin. I look. I search for my face in vain, for the one so familiar it looks like a stone.
In the months preceding her death, Barbara Loden consulted numerous doctors. One of them explained to her that her cancer came from the fact that she did not cry enough. He knew how to apply pressure on certain parts of her body to make her cry. She was devastated by the torrent of emotions that erupted like a sudden revelation, even if its meaning was enigmatic. Precious weeks were lost in useless weeping while the illness spread throughout her body. There are noble words, painstaking words that take time, sublime, fateful pronouncements proffered for eternity; there are simple and profound words; there are sluggish, erratic, deformed, incoherent wordsâbut Barbaraâs words, her last, are the only words that manage simultaneously to express both rejection and powerlessness in the face of death: no clichĂ©, rude outburst, or tautology. As she lay dying all she said was, Shit, Shit, Shit, then she spat out some tiny stonesâitâs the liver, the nurse saidâand died. And no doubt one bright morning, a still and radiant day, she too had once stood like Clarissa Dalloway at eighteen, âmusing among the vegetables,â full of hope on a glorious spring morning as she looked toward the sky, watching the birds swoop through the air, mistaking a brief moment of abundance for the promise of long-lasting happiness. We will never know the source of the wound that condemns Wanda to this loneliness. We will never know what ancient betrayal or long distant neglect plunged her into this state of constant and absolute distress. We will never know what loss, what absence she cannot get over. We accept her the way we accept ourselves, in blind ignorance, unable to put a name to the grief of existing. Her face, Wandaâs face, inscrutable, sad, obstinate. To the journalist who asked him one day, âWhat is the best early training for a writer?â Ernest Hemingway answered, âAn unhappy childhood.â How he must have sniggered as he helped himself to another scotch.
Suite for Barbara Loden (tr. Natasha Lehrer & CĂ©cile Menon)
Nathalie LĂ©ger
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Everything we invent is the truth, do not doubt it. Poetry is as precise as geometry.
Flaubert to Louise Colet in 1853| From Nathalie LĂ©gerâs A Suite for Barbara Loden
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"ÂżCĂłmo se puede ignorar que a veces la Ășnica manera de escapar al deseo del otro es complaciĂ©ndolo?"
N. LĂ©ger, sobre Barbara Loden.
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âTo protect herself from unhappiness, my mother never knew what to do except cry, as if she were turning her own face against herself, attempting to drown in entire nights of tears. On the other side of the door, my motherâs voice intoned the dismal song of incomprehension and bitterness. No one could understand the words, only the melodic form of her sadness.â --Nathalie Leger, Exposition
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Marguerite Duras spoke of glory. Talking about Barbara and the last scene of the film, she said, âItâs as if at this point in the film sheâs found a way of making holy the very thing that she has tried to show us as a kind of degradation. I see a kind of glory there, a very powerful glory, very violent, very profound.â An urge for victory, the desire to achieve something spectacular in defeat. I prefer what Louis-Ferdinand CĂ©line says: when youâve reached the very end of all things, and sorrow itself no longer offers an answer, then you must return to the company of others, no matter who they are. Wanda, at the end of her journey, is sitting with other people, a little squashed, on a bench. The image freezes, grainy and flawed. Wanda. Just one among others. Just as she is, in the world as it is. Fade to black.
Nathalie LĂ©ger, Suite For Barbara Loden
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