#naruto 700

[boybolt]

Naruto 700- Anime Boruto 🍥🔩💛🧡

[dankld]

once again putting forth my kankuro is not bald and has a hairline agenda

edit: had to add more long undercut kankuro

[pinkypastal]

Started watching naruto for the first time

I know I was warned but nothing could have prepared me for this

...they whare't kidding, that sas sure can gay

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tbh I don't think the issues with Boruto necessarily stem from any negative opinions toward Naruto on the part of the creators. tbh I don't think there's that much thought and passion going into it to begin with lol

My understanding of some of these points:

The kicker is that Kishimoto, from what I've heard has not been that active in Boruto. His editor pretty much runs the show is what I have heard a lot.

The Boruto manga was not made by Kishimoto to begin with, I think this was known from the start? I believe its creator was one of Kishimoto's old assistants. In fact, there was a bit of a splash when, several years into it, Kishimoto stepped in and supposedly took over.

From wiki: It initially began monthly serialization under the title Boruto: Naruto Next Generations, with Kodachi as writer and Kishimoto as editorial supervisor in Shueisha's shōnen manga magazine Weekly Shōnen Jump in May 2016, and was transferred to Shueisha's monthly magazine V Jump in July 2019. In November 2020, Kodachi stepped down, with Kishimoto taking over as writer.

it goes out of its way to shit on the Naruto series (taking away Naruto and Sasuke's power-ups at the first chance which basically reverted them to beginning of Naruto, Naruto and Sasuke).

Given that Naruto and Sasuke are basically god-level by the end of the OG series, this was always going to have to happen in some form. I don't think this can be used as indication of anything in particular, aside from the writer not being terribly imaginative.

They just really don't like Naruto as a series because: [...] They hate ninjas because everything is now aliens and machinery in Boruto. Also, a lot of retconning Naruto stuff to be oh aliens are the reason this exists.

Kishimoto did that to OG Naruto, honestly. Once he escalated to aliens with Kaguya, there wasn't really any walking back, and Boruto is generally following the trend from there. Additionally, Kishimoto also started leaning toward the tech thing himself as well, with stuff like zoom conference calls in late-stage 4th war arc, and then Naruto epilogue having laptops, etc.

Orochimaru is just there and no one remembers he's not to be trusted.

Kishimoto did this one too. Orochimaru got weirdly whitewashed way back halfway into the 4th war, when he suddenly returned from the dead as Sasuke's weirdly dependable plot device ally, and Kishimoto just never bothered dealing with him after that, so he just... made it out of the war with no consequences at all.

The general trend really does seem to be that Kishimoto started all these issues, and Boruto is just a rather bland natural outgrowth of the direction the last parts of Naruto took. I would even say that the characters going in the direction we get was set up by Kishimoto as well.

That doesn't make it enjoyable, and Boruto is not in any shape or form good at what it's trying to do, but the writing was on the wall even before it started, imo.

"Here's 40 episodes of Kakashi and Itachi in ANBU" or something, I don't know. I'd watch 10 episodes of Sasori's descent into absolute madness.

The anime fillers did this. There's also an entire Itachi novel that is... hm, not good. This kind of thing was basically handled in smaller spinoffs, so the real cashcow did need to be a more open-ended new generation thing that could be milked indefinitely.

So if you want a real answer for went wrong in Boruto let me explain.

Boruto is pretty much written by people who really don't like Naruto as a series because it goes out of its way to shit on the Naruto series (taking away Naruto and Sasuke's power-ups at the first chance which basically reverted them to beginning of Naruto, Naruto and Sasuke). The editor for Boruto is apparently a simp for Sadara. They just really don't like Naruto as a series because:

He's apparently just a missing dad but you probably knew this already.

Absolutely no respect for Naruto characters whatsoever.

They hate ninjas because everything is now aliens and machinery in Boruto. Also, a lot of retconning Naruto stuff to be oh aliens are the reason this exists.

Orochimaru is just there and no one remembers he's not to be trusted.

There's apparently a dimension where one of the villains just has multiple ten-tails clones in there and its weird.

So yeah... I don't even want to know what the fuck happened. The kicker is that Kishimoto, from what I've heard has not been that active in Boruto. His editor pretty much runs the show is what I have heard a lot.

The most I've seen of Boruto was the movie, where Naruto being an absent parent was solved because Boruto just didn't realise how cool his dad was... I think. I just kinda left that movie gobsmacked. Don't you see how cool your dad is Boruto. And also 'jutsu in a can' is illegal in the Chuunin exams for some reason? Literally why, they're a tool you can use...

Thanks for the response, I appreciate the insight. I can see how some of these problems might have come around, like trying to balance Naruto and Sasuke's absolutely absurd power levels against literally any kind of threat, or coming up with an enemy for Konoha to fight that wouldn't leave a black mark on Naruto's reign as Hokage... and the inherent issue of 'no one is watching this for the new characters, they want to see the old ones, but this isn't about them' you'll inevitably get with a next-gen sequel.

No one watched Boruto the movie for Boruto. No one.

But like... why make a next-gen sequel for Naruto of all series? I get why from a 'we want money' sense, but I feel they could've just animated the light novels or fillers into eternity and people would've been happier with those.

"Here's 40 episodes of Kakashi and Itachi in ANBU" or something, I don't know. I'd watch 10 episodes of Sasori's descent into absolute madness.

Maybe the reason they went "ALIENS" is because of Kishimoto's failed sci-fi manga? But it's weird he's hands off given I thought he took over the manga from someone else...

Btw, to add onto what the anon that sent the I gave up on Boruto ask, its a bigger problem than it being the typical female characters don't matter still in Boruto. Its that no one matters in Boruto except Boruto and Kiwaki. Everyone else just gets shit on. Like imagine the old Naruto is x fanfics but actually made real. That's Boruto. He's got everything and he's the bestest and specialest boy.

:/ That sucks. Why bother forcing so many pairings to produce kids if you don't even wanna use 'em. Sasuke didn't deserve this. But also, how are you simultaneously a simp for Sarada and don't really use her? Just shove her in stupid outfits and call it a day...?

I still don't know anything about Kawaki!? He's a moon boy too, right? It feels so weird to neglect the rest of Boruto's team, though. What's the point.

Boruto does really feel like an edgy OC. He's got Byakugan+1 AND Sasuke is his teacher... honestly, Sasuke as a mentor to Naruto's kid is cute in theory, except for the part where he's also a deadbeat dad to a whole other child (his own).

I couldn't help reading TBV thinking "...why didn't they just do this kind of plot with Naruto himself or something". Though I guess they kind of? Did? With Road To Ninja? The opposite direction?

Btw, unless I'm mistaken I don't think Naruto actually forgave Orochimaru. I think he just forgot because Kishimoto forgot about a lot of what happened in part 1 of Naruto except Sasuke imo.

Incredible.

[cloudabserk]

i can’t believe this they literally don’t even like hinata and sakura at all. hinata and naruto’s big moment was literally 50% about neji, naruto has never shown interest in her, has never acknowledged her feelings, and he grabs her hand in order to share his power with the army… naruto is extremely expressive and open about his feelings and yet even we the reader don’t see a hint of emotion towards hinata. also his last words to his dad were him stuttering to his mom about being sorry for not being able to marry a woman like her!

and sasuke just straight up loudly and openly dislikes sakura up until the very end. their “big moment” is the quick shot of him leaving the village, telling her she can’t come cuz “this has nothing to do with you” and then flicking her on the forehead. aka what his brother used to do to him to annoy him. before he goes and has an emotional moment with naruto.

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[mikyapixie]

10 years ago today, the NARUTO manga ended!!! The manga ended after 700 chapters, 72 volumes, 14 arcs and 15 years of serialization!!!

[okie-dokie-todoroki]

Shoto's hair really got the Naruto treatment.

I mean if he wasn't gonna get to keep his brother at least let him keep his hair.

[everysai]

[nothotonlyanime]

only on tumblr dot com will you still find people arguing over whether Kishimoto secretly intended on writing Naruto and Sasuke as lovers.

Shounen has literally never ever included main queer characters and they certainly did not back when Naruto was written. The misogyny was just so strong that Naruto and Sasuke had a thousand times more chemistry with one another than with their eventual wives. The romance is so stunted because Kishi just did not know how to compel us to root for his straight pairings. He was just like, oh, boy and girl who interact a bit, ta da! Marriage. We need to show that everyone is straight and lives happily ever after!

You just gotta accept it, then take it from the author. Sorry you absolutely biffed this, Kishi. These characters are mine now, and I’m going to make them kiss a lot. Thanks.

[boybolt]

[im-still-watching-anime]

sakura: welcome back to team seven sasuke here’s the quick update - we’re all gay now including you. also naruto is going to ask you out tomorrow and if you say no im going to use my new super strength to beat you to a pulp

sasuke: ……can i have the long update

sakura: no.

[rkivees]

I think it's so funny when a person is a Naruto fan and it's a Naruto (character) anti lol

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Regarding the Konoha 12, Kishimoto tried to circle back to them during the 4th arc.

Choji had some spotlight when Asuma got brought back with Edo Tensei, and the entire group was highlighted as "coming into their own" when the... statue was rampaging I think? They also tended to have a lot of short cutaways to them during the duration of the arc, like showing their lotus eater dreams, or stuff like Ino's and Shikamaru's dads getting killed, or just showing them in the middle of big changes to the whole battlefield.

People really latched on to them in Chuunin Exams and the Sasuke retrieval arc, and Kishimoto did continue to use them as a kind of "bystander" characters to fill out scenes or portray what it going on outside the Naruto-Sasuke stuff. Plus, some of them had a lot of focus for various reasons (Shikamaru, Hinata), and kind of served to elevate the entire group.

I showed a friend your reponse to my big ask and they said you forgot to add that in Naruto there was the Konoha 12 that everyone loved. Like them or hate them they were the main characters who each got their own moment (I disagree a little but the point still stands). They had their own fights and little arcs. In Boruto there's none of that. Even the kids of Shikamaru and the others are just not relevant in Boruto at all. All that matters is Boruto and Kiwaki and they're detrimental to the manga.

Hmm... I kind of get where they're coming from, but excluding Team 7, most of the Konoha 12 have been largely irrelevant background characters for quite a long time.

Characters like Kiba and Choji haven't had a day in the spotlight since as early as the Sasuke Retrieval Arc, and I believe Shino's last major point of relevance was.... god, Orochimaru's invasion of Konoha back in the Chuunin Exams, when he fought Kankuro?

A lot of the content that we got for the Konoha 12 were filler arcs, and most of that was in the latter half of part 1's anime. Some of the K12 didn't get arcs at all, actually. IIRC, the real standouts were Neji, Rock Lee, Shikamaru and to a lesser extent Ino and Hinata.

And that was before Naruto's cast size exploded in part 2.

I get why the K12 are deprioritised in Boruto - again, theoretically you're going to want to focus on the new generation, not the parents... but it's sounding like there isn't even an attempt at using them the way early Naruto did (Chuunin Exams, Konoha Crush, Sasuke Retrieval), which is very disappointing.

I do have to wonder if it's annoying to have to use them given how similar they are to their parents, though. If you have a Nara, an Akamichi and Inojin with the exact same powers as Shikamaru, Choji and Sai, semi-similar personalities and they all have to be relatively well-adjusted kids with happy lives because they're the kids of Naruto characters so they had comfortable childhoods with loving parents... That's way less interesting than 'dude i made up that I can do whatever i want with'.

Like, it would drive me insane to have those restrictions put on me, I'd want to make up OCs as soon as I could too. Again, it doesn't sound like it was handled well at all, but I can see why that might have happened.

See? This is why we should've just adopted a bunch of orphans after the war. They could have whatever powers you wanted and all kinds of different tragic backstorie-

[chimerafflesia]

2 weeks until my five year anniversary of getting into naruto

[madaras-tits]

The naruto fans who always complain about how oh so baaad it is haven't seen ACTUAL bad shows. Naruto is great, especially in comparison. Absolute masterclass in worldbuilding.