#my ships can have a little codependency. as a treat

[willyhoos]

i read a fic that changed my brain chemistry and now i can't stop thinking about a universe where amy works for eggman... and metamy ensues. naturally. you know the drill by now. also roboticized sonic theory because it makes it more deliciously potent.

DESERT ROSE: A prickly young girl with terrifying strength and a love for the finer things in life, like frilly dresses and deadly high-powered machinery. She thinks maintenance is a romantic couples activity. Not only is the "desert rose" highly poisonous, it can't really be considered a rose, can it…? However, its resilience means it could bloom even in a rusty scrapyard...

notes for the au under cut!

rose believes metal sonic when he says he is the original. he hasn't told her what happened. that he failed to save her. that he failed to save everyone. that there was a time when he was organic like she is. he just said "the other sonic is the copy" and she said "okay! let's kill him :)"

metal sonic is constantly torn between guilt and adoration at who rose has grown into. she became so much stronger. strong enough to protect herself - strong enough, even, to protect him (if he ever let her, that is. he might not be a hero any more but it's burned into his core forever that > KEEP AMY ROSE SAFE is a KEY goal.) on the other hand... he feels like he remembers someone different. a girl who loved animals and flowers and sunshine. who would give her life to protect everything she's now destroying. but his memories are so fuzzy...

i'm not so sure that amy would be big on programming and constructing machines herself, but she's always eager to "test" them... and it goes without saying she is frankly terrifying when she wants to be and is a beast on the battlefield

what a helpful young lady! im so glad i didn't just kill her!! - eggman probably.

"wait if rose calls metal sonic 'sonic' then. what does she call sonic" -> she calls him faker. copycat. knockoff. off-brand. etc. in short, she doesn't acknowledge him by name

i have the feeling that metal sonic is a bit more... enthusiastic? i guess? about his mission in this universe. it's not "ME VS. EVERYONE WHO COULD HAVE LOVED ME HAD I NOT FAILED" its "ROSE AND I VS. THEM" don't get me wrong he's furious and undead and vengeful and jealous and still insane. but. i think rose helps jog the vaguest of memories of who he used to be? unfortunately the person he used to be is a hero so i also imagine he's ever so slightly more conflicted in this universe... ("the old amy wouldn't have liked this, would the old me feel the same?")

codependence is my favorite flavor so i imagine metal really, really, REALLY appreciates having rose around. someone who is kind to him. someone who believes that he used to be more than this, and treats him like maybe he isn't worth less after all... i imagine if sonic ever tried recruiting amy, metal would go BALLISTIC. "YOU ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU CAN'T HAVE HER TOO." she's mine -> she's my (partner) she's my (memory) she's my (friend) she's my (tether) she's my (hope) she's my (rose)

metal sonic is. (gestures) metal. and he lives in a metal box on a metal ship surrounded by metal debris. but down the hall there is a single remaining rose. and in this state she is perfectly preserved. nothing can hurt her. eggman can't hurt her if she's on his payroll, huh...?

i can't put it into words properly (and ive tried) but the idea of "killer metal robot (whose objective is to destroy natural life) falls in love with a gentle girl named rose" makes me start frothing at the mouth. just shut up. why don't you hold his hand too. and he can't FEEL it like he should . and it hurts. and it's infuriating. but he Can tell that her pulse is higher than average and the temperature of her cheeks are strangely high. and he supposes that can comfort him for now.

i feel a little "if i had to choose between the world and sonic i would choose sonic" vibe.

this took me so incredibly long so if it flops im dropping out of college.

i wanna update these designs later, these are just the beginning concepts for the au :)

[smokestarrules]

Something about being so committed it’s almost unhealthy something about being codependent on someone something about having lost and being damn sure you won’t lose again 

[epiphainie]

Hey, I know you said you don't wanna get into fandom discourse so feel free to ignore this but I wanted to add something to you metioning yesterday how people talk about Bucktommy always bringing in bvddie/eddie somehow. I feel like a lot of people also expect this from canon including Bucktommy fans? like all the posts about which one will feel like the third wheel or which one's gonna get jealous over the other two spending time together and I find that kind of weird. I don't know if I got my point across but you know what I mean?

Hi anon,

Yeah, I think I get what you mean. Gotta say what I saw in my little corner of the BuckTommy fandom, people are usually having fun with those situations/headcanons than actually expecting something out of canon. But I can guess how a certain part of the fandom really thinks how Buck's relationship with Eddie in the context of BuckTommy must be addressed by the show. And I agree with you in that I find this expectation odd because why must they?

Is it because Buck is into men now that his significant other must address how he is/isn't okay with his friendship with another man? This was never an issue or even a topic of conversation in the narrative for Taylor so I cannot think of any other reason for why it would be for Tommy. Or on the flip side, is it because Buck is dating a man now that Eddie will feel like his time with Buck is being limited? Buck has been in a relationship for the most part of their friendship, why would this one be different that the narrative would need to address it?

I think in general in the fandom, regardless of whether people ship them or not, there's this sentiment that Bvddie has such a special relationship that needs to be addressed by their romantic partners / lampshaded by the narrative which strikes me as odd. Not because they don't have a special relationship - they have a very special relationship - but because the perception and related expectations over how the canon should treat this relationship is very different from something like say Hen and Chim. For every very intense Buck and Eddie story beat in this show, you have an equally insane Hen and Chim one. But you don't see anyone reading that relationship as something that needs to be acknowledged (as a threat or something they're okay with) by their spouses. It's an emotionally codependent friendship between a straight man and a lesbian. Not that sexual compatibility matters but they are not interested in each other that way and their partners don't even think about that.

So why would this be any different for Buck (a bi man) and Eddie (a straight man)? Like, even the idea that it must be acknowledged differently by the narrative kinda brings me back to negative stereotypes about queer men and their straight friends even though I know most people don't mean it that way.

Honestly, I kinda think it just comes back to fandoms' urge to read the intensity of relationships as romantic when it comes to two attractive men in a way we don't do with other characters. I say we because I've had my share of fandoms and almost exclusively shipped the two guys who were not canon; we just read more into these relationships regardless of whether we actively ship it or not. Like I said, Hen and Chim have some of the insanest relationship moments in this show. Like, can you imagine if something like Jonah happened to Buck and he thinks he's gonna hurt Tommy to get to him but he actually has Eddie and tortures him in front of Buck? Or if Eddie opposes Buck and Tommy getting married like Hen did with Maddie, for example. They would most certainly be read as romantic even if we had the same textual explanation as we did with Hen and Chim.

But the truth is, there is no relationship hierarchy. Platonic relationships can be as deep as romantic ones, what sets them apart is not the degree to how intense they can be, it's the flavor. And as it stands, I don't think the show treats Buck and Eddie's relationship with any different flavor than it does Hen and Chim despite how we treat it in the fandom. And sure, this does not mean realistically no love interest would be weirded out by their friendship (and negative stereotypes about bi people exist in the lgbtq community as well so that could happen too) but I don't see why the narrative would need to go there with Tommy. Like, what would be the purpose of it in-story? The acknowledgment of it would just further perpetuate the queer man in love with his bff thing that we know they said they don't wanna do. They should (and imo will) treat it as they do treat the other platonic relationships on the show.

I'm sorry, this got derailed at one point but whatever, send.

[ressioo]

can i ask for your thoughts about sunstone as a ship and their dynamic 🥺

Sorry for taking a while, words hard

God. Sunstone. Both in regular canon and SolarFlare they're absolute cringefails to me. The latter just hide it better. Gonna be talking about canon for the most part here

Under the cut because wall of text lmao

Honestly canon sunstone is pretty tragic? Its two flawed people making every single bad decision, and eventually losing eachother as a result. By the time they actually Think and realise what they both did wrong, its much too late to apologise and make things right

I think that if the circumstances were different they'd be able to have a really good, wholesome relationship

Maybe if Pebbles was less desperate to find the triple affirmative. Maybe if the situation before Moons collapse was less tense, if Suns contacted him earlier. If Suns had thought a little harder about the consequences of sending that gold pearl, if they were a little less weak for him, less indulgent. 

I suppose that hindsight is everything. They both regret what happened between them. Especially at the end there. 

Okay now for less depressing shit lmao

Their relationship was purely mentor/mentee for a little while and slowly turned into a very close friendship. They both enjoy art, poetry and music and share many views, which they bonded over. And while Suns might not share the same love for history that he has, they're more than willing to listen. And maybe go out of their way to find out new tidbits for him if they can

They never confess, i don't think. They both develop feelings, but Pebbles is too busy to pay much attention to it and Suns just doesn't quite have the nerve to do anything except hint at it. Though this Does end in them sending him a personalised ring via Spearmaster. Which. Is basically a marriage proposal. At least by Ancient standards.

Pebbles doesn't realise this, mostly because that is a tradition practiced purely by the People. And since he's not exactly aware or paying attention to his own feelings he doesn't clock it for what it is.

He does send them back a ring though. Basically treating it like exchanging friendship bracelets or something 💀 Suns about has a heart attack. From what they know he doesn't share their feelings, and they're too much of a coward to inform him about what the gesture meant, so. They end up unofficially officially married. And then unofficially divorced once the second pearl reaches him in Spearmaster's campaign

Pebbles finally gets his shit together sometime during Arti's campaign. She brings back a pearl about marriage traditions and it suddenly clicks for him. Not really the best time to find out, honestly. What with everything going on. Not even truly Finding Out, since he can't actually ask them if thats what the whole thing meant. 

They never speak again, and neither gets closure about it. They both keep their rings though.

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Now a little bit about SolarFlare specifically because they actually get together and meet in person in that! Wont be able to say too much without brain getting on my case for revealing too much though lmao. SF sunstone are Extremely exaggerated in their everything, so obviously not saying canon compliant off the string would be quite like this 🙏

They dont become a thing until they've actually met in person, though the line between being close and being Close was blurred for a bit before this point

Pebbles is the one that says something first, and they become official after that

They're like,, really abnormal about eachother. Like its genuinely obsession for them. They be jealous and posessive and codependent as hell. Both of them. Its not healthy, but they are genuinely really happy with eachother. Kinda made for eachother in that way. They're eachother's favourite people and they Will make it other people's problem

End up marrying at some point (after having an actual conversation about it this time), and its both because they wanna show love and devotion but also because they're very about it being a way to claim eachother. And that being visible to others

I love them and their weird relationship

[bloodraven55]

my fav sapphic ships can have a little codependency. as a treat

[sculkshrieking]

dude your hoffstrahmdon is changing my life! have you ever thought about including adam in the mix for the au? ship thing or not i'm just curious about if he gets to live :-)

teehee i'm glad you like them :D!! I had to think about this for a little bit. Adam generally stays dead in my head because i love the guilt and haunting and also because i don't think John with his barbed wire grip on all three apprentices would ever allow his freedom. HOWEVER we love to self indulge in this house and throwing Adam into the mix sounds so chaotic.

Maybe Hoffman plays a part in getting Adam out which is what makes Lawrence feel indebted enough to come and warn him not to go after Jill (which just makes me think of Lawrence and Adam in the makeshift jigsaw hospital room getting tended to by Hoffman while John and Amanda are off getting bloodboarded).

Lawrence and Adam are insanely codependent because I wouldn't have their post-bathroom relationship any other way. They will bite, kick and scream like frightened dogs if you try to separate them.

With Hoffman, Adam probably has some mixed feelings in a "You're horrible and I can't stand you, but you saved me" type way. Mostly the first part, really. Meanwhile, I think Hoffman just finds him annoying and grating as hell, he wants that twink obliterated and all that.

The Strahm and Adam roasting matches are insane. It's a constant PvP zone in there and absolutely no one is safe. There are parallels between them that they're both doing their best to ignore. Also they can smoke out on the balcony together as a treat <33

I don't know what kind of situation would force them all to have to spend a bunch of time together but i personally would love to see the resulting carnage. I also would love for them to kiss, i just have a hard time imagining all of them liking each other </3. Hate sex is absolutely still on the table however <33. Adam how come your mom lets you have THREE big hot middle aged men around you etc etc.

In conclusion:

[flowersintheimpala69]

Do you ship any other incest tropes? Like blackcest(Sirius/Regulus), Jaydick(Jason Todd/Dick Grayson), etc' ?? Genuinely curious about your thoughts on other incest tropes ^-^

i assume by incest tropes u mean other incest ships if u meant like actual tropes I'm so sorry and I'll do this ask again lol but for now I'm operating under the assumption this is about ships.

as a self proclaimed incest connoisseur here are some of my other fav incest ships. WARNING: uncontrolled yapping under the cut:

Jaime x Tyrion (GOT): there is NO fan content for them but tbh they're like one of my #1 got ships.. it's just like. Tyrion feels undesirable. he's been treated like shit his entire life for his deformity. he feels no warmth for Tywin or Cersei, but he has a love for Jaime who has always treated him with respect and care. like. ugh. that's his big brother!! I think Jaime, under his exterior and at his core, is a good guy who wants to protect people. and i think his protectiveness especially flares up with Tyrion cuz of the way he's treated by the majority. i think they should kiss too.

Cersei x Jaime (GOT): These bitches are messyyyyy and i love it. i think cersei is in a weird way jealous of jaime cuz he's able to do the things she can't as she's restricted by Westeros's misogynistic culture, which is a sickening layer to their relationship. I'm holding out for a cersei x jaime endgame in asoiaf.. grrm martin if u can hear us release winds of winter and make sure it includes more lannister incest. jaime and cersei just share this insane codependency that i LOVE. like in the show when jaime goes back to king's landing for cersei? like as a brienne x jaime lover that hurt but then as a cersei x jaime truther i was lowkey cheering. like even after all that development and time away from her, cersei was still the number one woman in Jaime's life. sickening.

Jon x Sansa (GOT): not sure if this counts cuz yea they're technically cousins (in the show. ig L + R = J isn't confirmed yet in the books so halfsiblings in the books for now) the final seasons of GOT sucked but they gave us Jonsa reunion so I'll take the win. idk. its like. sansa has lost faith in true heroes/honorable men. but jon is an honorable man. also like sansa being influenced to hate jon by catelyn but her love for him growing overtime so eventually she sees him as a true stark (in the show). there's more in canon content for them show wise of course but I'm holding out for a jonsa reunion/moment in the books (if grrm ever writes any more)

(NOTE: all hotd ships is show ver i haven't read Fire & Blood I'm sorry. also there's a lot of HOTD ships cuz that show is an incest cesspool)

Daemon x Viserys I (HOTD): daemon's freaky incest sex dream in s2 should've been about viserys and I STAND BY THAT!! daemon wanted to be viserys as much as he wanted to be visery's sister wife. we don't get a bunch of insight into their relationship in the show but idc they're def brotherkissers...

Aemond x Aegon II (HOTD): doomed brotherkissers.. they should've just reconciled and fucked. they hate each other. they have love for each other. they're sick.

Heleana x Aemond (HOTD): it's subtle but i stg there's so many small implications in the show that they had something. they seem to hold this affection for each other that is lacking in the marriage between heleana and aegon. like s1e8 aemond looks a little peeved about heleana dancing with jace. when they're kids and aegon calls heleana an idiot aemond defends her and says aegon should "honour" her. during aegon's coronation heleana can be seen hiding a bit behind aemond, and when meleys comes in aemond steps in front of heleana as if to protect her. heleana made aemond cry!! stoic aemond cried cuz of her!! in my head they had this unspoken affection for each other. i know there's a theory that heleana's kids are actually aemonds' and are bastards. i don't rlly believe it to be true, but I still think there was something between them.

Heleana x Alicent (HOTD): HEAR ME OUT. its like. they're so disconnected from each other. heleana needs a mother but alicent doesn't really have the emotional capacity for that. alicent doesn't know how to connect to her reserved daughter. maybe heleana reminds alicent of rhaenyra a bit.. idk I just think their bonding activity of choice should be heleana sucking alicent's tits. as one does.

Jacaerys x Heleana (HOTD): we were robbed.. they could've been great. heleana could've used a gentle guy like jace. what could've been.

Aegon II x Rhaenyra (HOTD): in a perfect world they were married to each other in an attempt to secure Rhaenyra's place as heir and stop Aegon from usurping

Rhaenyra x Daemon (HOTD): they're THE power couple. they're also messy as hell. i think in a weird way they sorta fear each other AND are jealous of each other. daemon wanted to be named viserys heir, yet rhaenyra was named heir instead. rhaenyra wants to be respected like a daemon but never will be because she's a woman. their physical intimacy/tension/chemistry is also AMAZING. they have this weird power dynamic where daemon exploited and took advantage of rhaenyra when she was young yet nyra holds power over him as his queen, a position daemon always wanted and a position he helped give to nyra!! their wedding was also BEAUTIFUL and one of my fav scenes btw

Heleana x Aegon II (HOTD): failmarriage. i think aegon does care for heleana but he can't understand her.

Rick x Morty (Rick & Morty): need that pervy old man to groom and molest his grandson!! I can't think of any particular ricks or mortys i especially enjoy together, i think they're all great.

Stanley x Stanford (Gravity Falls): it's been a WHILE since I've actually engaged with any gf or stancest content but for a while stancest was my shit, and it still holds a special place in my heart. i love toxic old man yaoi. to me its like they have this unsaid thing their whole lives where they sorta know that there this something more between them but they never act on it. and then they have their break up when stanley is kicked out and they don't talk for years. but even those years apart they thought of each other often. then they reunite but then things go wrong and they fight and ford goes into the portal and then stanley proceeds to spend the next decades obsessing over getting his brother back. they had rough hate sex when ford eventually came back but was still pissed at stanley. idk its like. they RETIRED together. them together. on stan o war II for the rest of their lives. brotherfuckers if u ask me.

Roman x Shiv (Succession): They fooled around when they were kids. trust me. roman fingered shiv when they were 14 and horny. shiv gave her first blowjob to roman. and like. in their heads its whatever. its not like they actually ever had sex. like they're not abt to go shouting it from the rooftops or talk to each other abt cuz it was. unconventional. but they also think they were just kids anyways. sometimes when it's just them in a room together they give each other these looks. side way glances.

Vi x Jinx (Arcane): i like caitvi as much as the next person but ViJinx is so good. like. god. they're so damaged but they have sm love for each other too. Jinx telling Vi "I'm glad it's you" in s2 act 1 while Vi is on top of her!! jinx blowing on vi's ear in s2 act 2!! jinx sacrificing herself for vi in s2 act 3!! and i mean. vi fucking cait in JINX'S CELL AFTER JINX ABANDONS HER!! THEY'RE SISTERFUCKERS. they're gross and codependent and obsessed and vi wanted to eat her little sister out NASTY.

You mentioned JayDick, which I've read a few fics for and I enjoy them. But tbh my fav batfamily ship is BruDick... like. they're partners/fatherson/lovers/rivals all wrapped in one. they can't stand each other. they care deeply for each other. they're weirdly codependent and are super emotionally incestuous. I'm not against bruce molesting a young dick, but my fav dynamic tbh is bruce seeing dick 100% as a son/sidekick/partner until one day a flip switches in bruce's brain and his 28 y/o pseudo-son is suddenly the hottest man alive. and dick has been down bad for that brussy since he first hit puberty. then they fuck. real to ME. i haven't rlly consumed any batfamily/dc fic in a while but thinking abt brudick is putting me in the mood.. lowkey might read some later.

Liam x Cordell (Walker): I don’t think jarpad is capable of playing a man who isn’t in love with his blood brother

Thor x Loki (MCU): i used to consume sm thorki fic it was an actual illness.

im sure there are others I forgot to mention but these are the main ones i like. I'm big on codependency and unhealthy dynamics, that while toxic, do contain genuine care/love.

thanks for the ask anon! sorry this was so long lol

[rosesradio]

so I never finished Heroes of Olympus but also I never liked Percy/Annabeth in PJO (……. which makes me an outcast I know) my reasons were silly but I was like 13 when I read the first series. (something something she was too mean to MY Percy and he deserved better) ALL this is to say, I’m curious on your opinion of HoO Percy/Annabeth:

“was not a fan of the amalgamation they became in HoO, but that’s another post”

would love to hear your thoughts as to why it was better in PJO or whatever you feel like sharing!

so first off, you should definitely finish HoO !! i'm not a huge stickler for "you have to read all of the source material" (because i haven't read past the first ToA book), and HoO is really only Peak Literature if you're like 14 (not to say adults can't like it obv, i do, but when you get older you notice some glaring flaws lol). that being said, you should still finish it, it has its rises & falls. i for one have been rereading son of neptune (very very slowly) & listening along to the newest olympian podcast. but anyways

i honestly can relate to your take on being young & having a book boyfriend & feeling overprotective of him lol. when i was like 14 & first reading HoO, i felt that way with leo when calypso was treating him like absolute garbage...like that's my little guy lol

so my take on percabeth is kind of a, "like it more than i don't, not overly invested in a fandom sense, take it or leave it" on the tier list. i enjoyed their development in PJO despite the moments where annabeth did give him a bit of a hard time, etc. they had a close friendship & trusted each other & i think it developed into a nice relationship (i will say them getting together the morning after annabeth's older brother figure/childhood crush/war rival Died is some Unhinged romantic timing on Richard's part, but i get that ya gotta wrap up the book & the underwater kiss was still cute, etc).

that being said, i understand how they were seperated in HoO & circumstances were desperate, but obv the judo flip scene was just...ick. i think i saw a post somewhere that rewrote it to where she pulled her knife on him, he pulled his sword on her, the romans got freaked out & then they just kinda half-play sparred with no winner, and that helped percy gain back some of his memories, which i think was a sweet rewrite. but anyways.

in the rest of the HoO books they're just kinda...wildly codependant with no individual personalities. annabeth needs percy to save her in battle because it's not like she's been training Longer than he has, and percy needs annabeth's wisdom because Obviously he has none of his own, Right?? (someone save percy from the stupid allegations i can't do it in these conditions Richard—this is all your fault Richard & the fandom Is Not Helping—)

all in all i think Richard's just...not good at writing established relationships as opposed to build up, which is funny because he pairs so many ships off-page & then we gotta see the amalgamations for the rest of the books (someone save solangelo i can't i need a cig—)

also for the record i think perachel is underrated. i think there was a point in tlo where percy admitted in the narrative that hanging out with rachel was more carefree than hanging out with annabeth, and that's kind of the ideal you would want in a partner.

so i'll take them or not, i like fanart & cute hc's with them & having them as a background pair. i don't see myself writing anything with them unless it's like a request or something though. i ship both of them with other people more in a Fandom sense, remaining a casual fan of percabeth. i know there's a niche group in the pjo fandom that are anti-percabeth & say annabeth is abusive—i'm not gonna say that's a lie or the truth or anything, i can see where they're coming from but i can see the other side of it too.

so yeah, that's pretty much my unorganized ramblings on percabeth ! thanks for asking !!

[cyberdragoninfinity]

giving you dennis for the ask meme if you havent gotten him already. gotta get that daily dose of poodle

:) thank you tam i would love to talk about him.

Why I like them/why I don’t: god. Guy Who Burrowed Into My Brain So Fucking Bad. Help Me. i love this jackass. he's a fucking LOSER!!! HE SUCKS!!! i LOVE that dennis is a spineless pathetic liar and massive coward and an unhinged asshole more times than once!! type of guy who's just masks all the way down and i KNOW his identity issues are fucking lethal back there. his dub voice is an absolutely top 10 favorite for me!! he is one of the BIGGEST war criminals in yugioh to the point that he had to spend his duel links event apologizing to the rest of the cast!!! HE KILLED HIMSELF IN FRONT OF A CRUISE SHIP FULL OF PEOPLE. AND HE TALKS LIKE THAT. AND ACTS LIKE THAT. HIS GUILT IS GOING TO EAT HIM ALIVE. REBLOG TO MAKE IT EAT HIM FASTER.

also if we're always talkin about like. jesse and yugi and joey's dock duel as yugioh's gayest moments and characters we need dennis on that list right fucking now. borderline canon gay character to me he is so deliberately gay coded to like. 1930s Hayes Code Movie Degrees. fucking insane. slash pos.

What I like about their appearance: it is so fucking stupid. <3 the like??!?! jacket + vest combo in polymerization colors??!? his little purple bow that's matchies with yuri for some reason???? HIS STUPIDASS HAIR THAT LOOKS LIKE EASTER FAKE CRINKLE GRASS?? RIDICULOUS CHARACTER DESIGN. SLASH POS. CARROT BIT ME.... AGAIN.

Do I prefer their dub names or original names? cannot believe he came like that (named dennis.) i think i like 'macfield' a smidge more than mcfield though. dawg why you got two always sunny characters in your name.

OTP: siiiiiiiighssss through my teeth. i will not. be beating the Losing the Yaoi War allegations. dennis/yuri truthism blowing my entire brain up this summer and fall and Now. as if it's my fault dennis's duel links lines for yuri Sound Like That. i know they had a little gay thing only the way toxic codependent middle schoolers can have. yuri's convo with dennis in DL might make me insane. sorry in advance.

NOTP: obviously i cant make people Not ship something but whenever i see dennis shipped with a girl im just a little bit like. are you sure about that. are we sure. 🌈

OT3: i actually dont think i really have a 3+ ship for dennis. born 2 be monogamous i guess. i dont think he could handle having multiple partners i feel like he'd date them separately and be too skittish to break up with one of them and then it blows up in his face. lol

Favourite card they use: ive grown very fond of Performage Trapeze Magician after using it in DL for months now.... Flame Eater is also Really sillycute

i also. do like chaos ancient gear giant and its big fucked up dog pauldrons. dennis and his hunting hounds…okaaaayyyy

Favourite moment they were in: GODDDD IT'S SO FUCKING HARD TO PICK JUST ONE. I NEED TO MAKE A DENNIS DUB COMPILATION SO BAD. EVERY TIME HE'S ON SCREEN IS A TREAT FOR ME i think i have to go with his duel with gong in synchro. i love his dynamic with gong i wish we got more of it.

Least favourite moment: i Like the dennis/yuya duel (it's like. one of the few things i actually like about that 8 episode final stretch from hell) but i gotta say i dont know how great i feel about having dennis become the dueltaining teacher to all these kids who got war displaced effectively due to. uh. his actions. yugioh i dont know about that one.

Something I associate with them:

i dont want to talk about it.

[shinygemstone]

HERE IS A LIST OF THE 30 MAIN KIPO AUs I WANT BUT WILL NEVER HAVE BECAUSE THE FANFIC COMMUNITY IS TINY IN ORDER OF SPOILERINESS (FEWEST SPOILERS FIRST OBVIOUSLY)

1. An AU where Kipo doesn't end up on the surface in the first episode, and has to go through the events with the mega monkey still looking for her

2. An AU in which all of Kipo's people are actually dead, and she's the only survivor. Depression for everyone!!

3. An AU where Margot never betrayed Wolf, and the two have a very close and codependent relationship. Bonus points if Wolf gets kidnapped by Scarlemagne

4. An AU where Wolf's wolf parents never actually betrayed her and raised her alongside the other children. Wolf girl wolf.

5. AU where the protagonists end up separated after Ratland, with Kipo and Benson trying their best to escape Scarlemagne's place without Scarlemagne realizing they're there while Wolf, Mandu, and Dave try to save them

6. AU like #1, except Lio fucking dies and Kipo's body now assumes it is in danger a lot more. So now she's dealing with the mega monkey and turning into the mega jaguar

7. Kipo gets along a little too well with the timbercats, and they kind of adopt her. Parental Yumyan and Molly. They're not surprised to find out she's part cat and teach her how to properly kitty

8. In which Lio turns out to be the mega monkey, somehow.

9. In which Kipo was raised on the surface, and is kind of known as the local feral half cat creature. Naturally, Scarlemagne kidnaps her for weapon usage and oops. Guess he has to teach the feral out of her

10. In which Jamack joins the protagonists (if you didn't think my man would be here you're wrong)

11. Let Kipo get upset about the whole mega jaguar thing PLEASE

12. Song and Lio raise Kipo, while Song is suppressing the mutagen and struggling more and more as she gets older.

13. Song turns out to fill Dr. Emilia's role, and is actually trying to end mutekind.

14. Emilia gets her hands on Kipo, but mistakes her for a normal human (somehow) so Kipo grows up in the science burrow believing mutes killed her parents and that what Emilia is doing is justified. Bonus points if she's Emilia's protege/assistant/intern

15. Emilia gets her hands on Kipo, knowing that she's Song and Lio's daughter, and decides she can use Kipo as a weapon. This would involve a lot of dehumanization and likely good brother Scarlemagne/Hugo. Also Lio? Totally dead

16. AU where Lio manages to yoink Hugo. That's the AU. Hugo and Lio and Kipo as family.

17. AU #16 with angst: Lio gets captured, so it's just Hugo and Kipo. Bonus points if Kipo grows up in Ratland

18. For even more angst, Scarlemagne kidnaps Kipo, raising her in his blooming empire. Except Scarlemagne has no idea how to raise a child, especially not one who's half mega jaguar.

19. Where Mulholland doesn't help Kipo, and Scarlemagne's coronation goes as planned.

20. Where Emilia kidnapping the mutes was a trap, and it works as planned. Kipo is in for such a bad time.

21. Where what Emilia did to the mutes she kidnapped mutes is a lot more horrific than in cannon.

22. WOLF BOTHERS TO REPLACE STALKY

23. Margot changes her mind about betraying Wolf sooner, and Emilia never captures any of the protagonists. Consequently, Emilia sneaks into timbercat village to conduct her evil plans.

24. Instead of Yumyan, Kipo gets hit by the cure. Consequently, the decision is made to have the mega jaguar deal with all subsequent human incidents. This prevents It's a Trap from happening.

25. Kipo gets hit by the cure, except it works. No more mega jaguar, but she gets back to timbercat village.

26. Kipo goes through with sinking the cruise ship. Insert huge crisis (and maybe Song, Lio, or both of them rejecting Kipo/treating her like a monster. Please. I live for angst)

27. AU where Dave kills child Benson, and is a reoccurring side character who's literally just a bastard

28. Fun Gus Monster Emilia. Like just IMAGINE if she took Gus' DNA instead of the mega walrus. Sludge monsters are underrated imo, and she could do so much fucking damage.

29. Emilia gets stuck as a half mute, and gets shoved in prison. Maybe with Hoag.

30. SCARLEMAGNE LIVES

[chaikachi]

Speaking about tension and conflict to build romance:

Bumbleby's conflict was Adam stalking Blake,and Yang upset by her leaving because Blake was scared,but gradually more relieved as she proved that she would always stayed by her side and fight together

Renora's conflict was Ren being stubborn and almost risking his life to a grimm that killed both his parents and Nora stopping him,leading them to a better strategy attack

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We already saw Oscar suggesting Ruby to tell Ironwood the truth,maybe Oscar will struggle to 'share her burden' because she's like her sister and doesn't like being vulnerable? Or maybe it will be about the merge and we'll have a parallel to Blake in V1 talking about "the man with two souls fighting for control" ?

Of the main three ships, they all had a big tension and conflict leading up to V8, and then had a secondary one just by virtue of the separation in Atlas.

Yes BB's conflict was Adam plus Blake running away while Renora's was Ren's tunnel vision in v4... but then in V8 Yang is worried that Blake thinks less of her for prioritizing Mantle over Amity. And Ren and Nora are having a conflict of ideals AND miscommunication.

For Rosegarden, their conflict started with not agreeing on how to handle Ironwood and then became stretched out by ending up on opposite teams while Atlas was falling. The difference between RG and the other ships is that eVERYONE ELSE GOT TO STAY REUNITED AT THE END OF V8, BUT RG DIDN'T. 😭😭😭

I have a feeling the rest of their conflict in the Vacuo arc is going to have multiple layers and be very personal to their individual characters. For starters, there's a matter of how to sort out leadership. Ruby used to be head of the team and became the symbol of hope for All of Remnant after her broadcast... but in her absence, Oscar will have stepped up to the plate in her place. There's going to be some fumbling to get them back on the same page again to a point where they are properly sharing the weight of their burdens together.

Then we know that Oscar probably thinks she died! :'D Which, in tandem with his attachment, admiration, and protectiveness of her in the past, sets him up perfectly to not want to lose her again. Be that struggling with sticking too close, keeping his distance from not wanting to get too attached again (too bad boy, you can't run from this), or a mix of both... it's anyone's guess how he'll handle it.

We also know, thanks to Neo, just how important Oscar is to Ruby and that the thought of losing him is something she literally could not handle. So there is almost certainly going to be a mutual protectiveness going on there. they can have a LITTLE codependency, as a treat. /lh

We also have VERY SOLID SETUPS for their individual character arcs mirroring each other so strongly. And it's impossible for those themes to not be explored at this point.

From their very introductions, they both address each other's core conflicts with their first words to each other.

Oscar: Woah, you... have silver eyes.

Silver eyes being symbolic of her burden as Salem's adversary and the mirror that reflects humanity's hope back onto darkness.

Ruby: Who... are you?

Oscar being the next (and likely final) Ozcarnation who's entire character arc is a struggle of identity.

Oscar's "I always knew I wanted to be more than a farmhand... but this? Who would ask for this?" to Ruby's "I wanted to be the hero, like the stories that my mom read to me."

Oscar's "I thought the idea of falling through Remnant into a new world was... exciting. I never understood why she was so sad when she finally made it back home." to Ruby's "I don't want to be me anymore."

Ruby's "What if you could be anyone?" to Oscar's "I'm just going to be another one of his lives, aren't I?"

god the way they've written this story... i sincerely don't understand how people can watch ALL of this, all the moments i didn't mention cause i'm too lazy to turn this thread into another essay, and still say they don't see it. 😭

however their conflict is handled, i know i'm going to be very not normal about it every step of the way and i'm so freaking excited

[zorilleerrant]

For the ask game, ship you’ve unwilling come around to!

Oh, I have so many NoTPs in every fandom, and, unfortunately, a ton of them tend to be canon or popular in fandom! The ones that bother me so much I had to block the tags are Dick/Babs, Tim/Kon, and Spike/Buffy. I think those are the only ships I currently have blocked, but some of that is just because the other ships are less popular (or fewer people I follow care one way or the other).

With Dick/Babs, it's that I love their dynamic as childhood friends or as young superhero friends, and if they have romantic entanglements on top of that it feels like it's invalidating the friendship. There's a lot of 'this boy and girl are friends so they have to date' (see also: these two queer boys/girls are friends so they have to date) and it gets its ick on ships, even though generally I do enjoy a friends-to-lovers arc. It's also a little creepy to me that Babs was originally Bruce's love interest, and then infantilized to be Dick's love interest - the same reason that Kori/Jason and Raven/Damian bother me so much. Also, Babs is a lesbian. I really just prefer them as mlm/wlw solidarity and not in a bi4bi way.

Tim/Kon and Spike/Buffy are more a problem with the fans than any of the canon material. (Which is why I ship Tim/Kon in the HBO Titans universe, which I haven't seen many people being mean about.) I see a lot of Tim/Kon fans hating on Bernard and Tim/Bernard and also hating on DC in a way that honestly feels pretty homophobic. I don't think that's their intention but it really sounds like the same arguments people who just don't want canon queer characters at all make. I also see them hating on Steph and Tim/Steph sometimes in ways that are pretty misogynistic (and also biphobic) and I just don't like it.

Spike/Buffy is like... I enjoyed the dynamic on the show, where they were both unhealthily codependent and toxic to each other. Two people who think they're in love or have the potential to be in love because they won't address their own problems is my jam! Of course, most of the shippers seem to want to treat it like a real (or especially a healthy) relationship instead of a toxic situationship. There's also the problem that, like, they keep defending why Spike 'deserves' to still be in a relationship with Buffy after assaulting her, sometimes with pages long essays, and never once mention how Buffy might feel about that. Completely ignoring Buffy's opinion on the whole thing feels, to me, even more nonconsensual than the original incident (which I was willing to chalk up to bad writing and ignore). So now the merest mention gives me the creepy crawlies. This is most canon ships on BtVS, tho.

Most ships I'm open to, tho! I especially enjoy hearing about rarepairs and anything that couldn't happen in canon (crossover ships, etc.) because I can roll it around in my head until I understand it. Which is why even stuff that squicks me at first I'm willing to give a chance if the story sounds interesting enough.

[mushroomslovesyou]

Care to tell us about any ocs you have?

oh boy would i!

*unfurls a scroll about a mile long*

in no particular order i have;

Arthur Owens, troubled cowboy with a heart of gold that i love to beat the shit out of (emotionally)

Heulyn, a knight who gets sent forward in time to cowboy times via magic who i love to beat the shit out of (physically) ((because Heulyn in pain emotionally harms Arthur))

Jack [last name tbd], a 1920s noir detective who encounters elderich horrors and bisexuality

Clayton Howell and Theodore Karter, two authors in 1960s western Mass who have to battle winter themed horror and also repression (they loose)

Gabriel Crowe, a whaler who breaks the hell out of his leg and gets stuck on land for a while as a result

Siobhán, a selkie that Gabriel helps to get back home after her pelt was stolen

Henry Booker, the physician/surgeon who treats (and falls in love with) Gabriel

Unnamed werewolf who works as a printers apprentice in early modern London. He falls for a playwright and his poet sister, but in a pleasant twist it turns out they are both the same genderfluid person

Dr. Nathaniel Lattimer, a ships surgeon onboard a ship that definitely isn't just the USS Constitution during the war of 1812. I have done very little with him and feel bad

Dr. Augustus Muir (can you tell I like medical men lol), A Scottish surgeon who, after a period of time with the fae, gets sent from the Victorian era back a few decades to the 1820s where he and his nephew Robert (who definitely isn't his son and definitely isn't half fae) move to Boston. Augustus then gets ensnared by @blue-spectors 's oc Eaton and I could keep writing because these fuckers have been throughly stuck in my brain, but I will spare you

Oh and also The Scribe and Ned, technically DND ocs but they have kinda taken on a life of their own. to keep it brief; immortal warlocks bound to their patron and each other. they have know each other for a minimum of 900 years and are absurdly codependent while refusing to admit that

[mapsofnonexistentplaces]

do you take your ocs for that ask game .. isel

WHY NOT itd be funny to do that

favorite thing about them

i like that hes jsut like the worlds sluttiest oldest 30 year old man who talks in the most obtuse overdone way and everyone loves him for it. except that some people hate him for it. hes a funny guy

least favorite thing about them

hmm hard to say because all his flaws are like. specifically very interesting to me. like the way hes pushy with others and secretive about very basic details about himself are technically things to hold grievances with and he does kind of eat shit about it sometimes but its like. yuuup dudes traumatised and has very underdeveloped coping skills it makes sense....

uh actually i do have an answer. i hate how much he lives in my mind like literally if any of my friends ever ask me like "oh name a character" my first thought will indubitably be ISEL "oh who should i draw" ISEL i dont like him and i hate him actually. for being so handsome and nice

favorite line

ones at the front of my mind come from a play scene i edited last night. i like it when hes mean

brOTP

i think his connection with freya is sweet. codependent guys with god complexes, isel acting as a sort of dying ringmaster directing freya and also protecting her.... theyve got some baggage between them but they do care for each other so much

OTP

sigh him and olzhas will forever be famous to me their arcs are so entwined and they were very precisely designed to like. complimentary to one another. ive written so much about the meta between them its complicated but theyre annoying and they love each other and it rules

mazin and isel is also very personally funny to me because it feels like basically the only humorous "guys who hate each other" ship and also because i think the idea of isel of all people being mazin's introduction to bicuriosity would hurt him

i also think the hypothetical isel olzhas thuyết polycule is worthwhile. pretentious old men who will argue with each other about anything. its fine

nOTP

hmm aside for like. evidently weird ones. i dont think i can call any hypothetical pairing between him and anyone else bad i think theyre all funny in some way.

random headcanon

hmm treating this as an opportunity to think of my favorite trivia about him. i think his hobby in like. maintaining old music for himself and being all old-fashioned about record players and the genres of music he likes is cutes

unpopular opinion

i think hes ugly or something

song i associate with them

so many.... found this specific song earlier today so ill share this one

favorite picture of them

i think he looks cute here i like his expression a lot.... i like pictures of him where his like. a stupid little joker facade is lessened

[liliallowed]

ok guys imma be real with you I'm so tired of people saying proshipper with pitchforks. I'm tired of proship defenders raising their shields. I'm tired of a me vs them mentality. let's break things down.

I haaaaate people who use the whole: "it's just fiction." or "the bad affects will be addressed" then proceed to never aknowledge the wrongness as if it's normal...

bro crimsondust is not normal they're fucking crazy. I assume I don't need to say it right? it fit's the characterization. the story flows nicely and they WOULD stab each other to death while kissing because of the corrupted codependency.

anyways more proshipper thoughts and rants below. avoid if not comfortable.

but like I get it there's this ick that's different with like other stuff because murder is so cool and edgy in fiction. probably something to spice things up despite being morally wrong.

but other stuff erm... kinda creepy. if it was addressed or part of the intended characterization it'd still be icky but not this much. because your mind would EXPECT that from the character.

anyways what I'm saying is I don't like in*est I don't like age gaps I don't like those stuff because it's OUT OF CHARACTER.

if I was in character then I'd be more lenient to endure it and wait to see how it's addressed as something harmful. as long as it's not condoned and the psychological impacts are explored I think it's okay...???

like the coffin of Andrew and leyley. those guys that ship is IN CHARACTER. it's weird. it's messed up but you... kinda get it because they only ever had each other to rely on... and the toxic stuff about familial bonds IS ADDRESSED. leyley can easily manipulate Andrew because they grew up together. that's like one of the base problems with in*est. too much information. too much private access to stuff that you normally wouldn't know if you were partners...

like I think we should take the time and think WHY is in*est wrong instead of treating it as an alarm to run away.

controversially I think the coffin of Andrew and leyley handles the conceptualization well and takes accountability for how fucked up the situation is. they live in a [SPOILER] FOR FUCKS SAKE!

anyways in that context I actually don't mind it. it's fitting it feels like it fits in the world. and it's like... tragic even. it's sad.

now back to the utmv fandom. when you ship Frans or fontest...

it feels like broken glass or nails on a chalkboard for me. like HE WOULD NOT FUCKING SAY THAT. no I'm not talking about proship bad, anti good. I don't care it's all fiction.

I'm talking about people activity ruining a character bending the rules just to get to the pairing. that shit makes me angry. that's insulting. that's kinda character assassination.

go make ocs as siblings and have them make out or some shit. it's weird sure but I don't really... care? you do you man.

just don't do that to these character.

like if you had a character that's so self obsessed that they'd probably fall in love with someone similar looking then it's in character to ship them with a sibling (blegh). that can WORK. if it fits in the story if it dices deep INTO the psychological aspects and explores the good and the bad unbiased.. that's GREAT even!

like I don't really care about the moral implications. my fucking pairing is a serial killer and a time loop maniac. they're horrible people but because it's "in character" nothing is bent out of proportion to make ends meet it flows nicely together.

I care about character assassination and people RUINING the characters.

like I already shared my thoughts on Frans. I get the dynamic. it's friking cool! time traveler x the judge. but uhm... you DO realize frisk is just a child you're guiding through the underground right?

and sure you can say they eventually grow up... then marry sans or some shit...

isn't that a little fucked up to you? that someone knew you as a kid and now they're your partner? these relationships are problematic for a reason. partners should not know private life matters without consent. partners should not be RAISED tougher in one place.

childhood friends works because it's still two seperate lives.

Frans is still equally fucked up even if you age frisk up. and I'm not saying sans would do anything. no absolutely not. he in fact would push frisk away and... uhm possibly call them to go see a therapist maybe? don't soul bond bullshit me. he's their fucking uncle. he's their dad. HE CARES FOR THEM as if they're his own child.

WHY ISN'T THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE FOCUSING ON!? WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO REVOLVE AROUND ROMANCE CANT FRISK JUST BE FRISK.

ahem... okay anyways. I don't like Frans because sans would know better. and you know he wouldn't so you use soul mates as an excuse. that's gross. that's character assassination. that's bending rules.

just have the friking SOUL fall in love with him. like plop out frisk's soul. frisk is free to go do their own think then u can have that dynamic. leave da child vessel out of it.

as for fontest... uhm... okay Frans might have been a bit excusable but this is just straight up out of character. I don't even feel like I need to explain why it's icky right? I've been rambling on and on about the importance of established characterization. they would not fucking do it. HAVE YOU PLAYED UNDERTALE my guy. have you touched grass.

okay you may argue you can ship what you want sure. why don't you ship everything else then. just put a character randomizer and ship unbiasedly.

again I hate how the fandoms developed into proshipper vs anti when uhm... you know there's people who just aren't on a far side right?

-"oooooh lili likes coffin of Andrew and leyley she must be a perverttttt"

I mean if that's what you think you're free to leave now. I believe I've shown you enough of my true self for you to understand.

and no this isn't emotional manipulation I'm coming clean so moots that feel uncomfortable can leave and I can stop pretending to be neutral.

I'm NOT neutral I have tons of opinions!

but to call me proship or anti is... idunno feels like you're trying to just put me in a box without listening to what I'm actually saying.

[wonderr-skyy]

Shugo Chara randomly popped up in my mind today.

And it reminded me the nostalgia of not having to worry about puriteens and purity culture in the slighest.

But ikuto and Amu are like the purest funniest uno reverse card you can shove at angry puriteens!

They're like the PEEFECT bait for them! Its soo hilariously ironic. 😂

They only see the age gape, nothing else, and as such get caught in 4k, uno reversed in their faces. 🤣

But also they're only FOUR years apart! The whole "age gape" mentality is so stupid too. Four year is barely a gap at all! like Ikuto was a kid as much as Amu was.

Okay, let me rewind a bit, to explain why its bait.

So, Ikuto is affectionate to Amu. But not for the reason you think.

You see, Ikuto has a younger sister, called Utau.

Now, if you've seen the show, you probably already put the pieces together. XD

But for those who dont: Utau is very "glompy" and affectionate with her big bro, Ikuto.

And what does Ikuto do? The same thing. Yes, Ikuto is indeed treating Amu like his little sister.

He teases her, and every single person on this planet earth knows siblings tease each other.

The other times he hugs her. WHAT? You're not allowed to hug your friends & siblings now? 🤣 bahaha i swear to god, this is how stupid they sound.

Some people might be like "idk, it's a bit much". He says in one episode "I'd never do something you hate". Which means he knows her boundaries.

The amount of respectful boundaries these two have is amazing. Never seen that before. Where they explicitly tell each other "I am fine with this. I am not fine with this" and no question about it. She tells people when she doesn't like something, and whenever she said "stop", he stops. Periodt !

And isn't that just what everyone wants? Respecting boundaries is The best form of love, imo. Sign me up, hmhm <3

And (if I remember correctly, its been years guys) at the end of the series when she starts to maybe get a crush on him, he tells her to go their separate ways and gets some distance between them, being the kind and responsible boy that he is. ^-^

So yes, in the end they go their seprate ways, which to me, once again, proves how healthy their relationship was.

I'm sure you know that an unhealthy relationship would have been if they stayed together, cause then, yes, you could maybe say it's "codependent" or something.

But not here. They had the best healthiest friendship full of healthy boundaries, cute fluffy moments, and all the good stuff you could want in a ship <3 and i loved them sooooo much. <333 I knew I loved Amuto for a reason AND the are the BEST pair to troll puriteens with xDD They will in fact have absolutely no idea what they're talking about because they don't actually watch the show or even care to understand why a couple that may "look" weird, is actually one of the healthiest ever seen. 🥰

This is THE best uno reverse card of the century! For all these stuck up puriteens who, in fact, truly have no idea what they are even talking about, and in fact are just spouting nonsense to begin with. 💖