#my problem child has low empathy is a manipulative bastard and is trying to be good even if though everything in his says villain
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I'll always be impressed how the MCU who portrays Tony in a way better light than most comics do made Tony's actions in Civil War worse and than never acknowledged it.
I mean Tony lost any defense he had on Civil War somewhere between cloning Thor, locking the heros in the Negative Zone and If I recall correctly straight up sending his murderous "ex" villains team to kill Spiderman. But he was not the one that caused the problems (it had nothing to do with Ultron and if it had Tony still wasn't the one who build Ultron in the comics), he had no other motives besides wanting personal responsability (movie Tony wanted to have Pepper and still build armors), he had public support and Maria Hill at his side to bolt (and it was very priviledged of him to not notice the anti-mutant sentiment behind this support), he doesn't break the accords himself for personal gain at the first chance he has (the closer to it would be the secret meeting Tony and Steve had to try to convince the other to give up without violence) and his actions had grave consequences he spend years having to deal with including the mistrust of his friends and other heros.
I mean comic Tony did worse things but he was more consistent and the overall situation made easier to understand where he was comic from (it was all terrible places and it didn't justify at all but it was more than we got on the movies) and look while I started reading MARVEL with Civil War (bad idea) I do think there were some very very OOC moments from almost everyone there (I do think Peter, Clint and Matt were on point) and the follow through also lead to some weird decisions but it doesn't matter because this isn't a defense of comic Tony. No, this is an atack against MCU Tony because it says a lot about his characther that he was if nothing equiparable to comic Tony when comic Tony was writen as a villain while he was theorically only misgiven and being manipulated.
#i'm team cap all times ofc#but i do think comic tony is such an interresting characther full of potential and the times marvel tried to make him more mcu were bad#he trying to force strange to high five him was soo weird#that's not my problem child#my problem child has low empathy is a manipulative bastard and is trying to be good even if though everything in his says villain#and the trying to be good despite everything is why I like him#the trying to care even if he doesn't get it to not manipulate everyone even if it's his second skin to do better#anti mcu tony stark#anti tony stark#616 tony stark gets all my love because he sucks but it's interesting and full of potential#and also because him helping Carol to get out of her addiction and in the process stoping himself from relapsing is cute and I rly enjoy it
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