#my love mix up (Thai)

[heretherebedork]

Just holding hands on public transit and loving it. Adorable.

[onlyrainbowshipstbh]

Fourth via his Insta!

[absolutebl]

thai language question! what do tongthap and atom call each other in MLMU TH? it sounds like ‘nai’ or maybe ‘ngai’? it’s translated to both of their names several times on the YT subs. i’ve tried to look it up but i’m not sure i’m hearing it right 🙈

Thai pronoun: Nai

They are indeed using nai. Hold on I know I posted about that one at some point... AH HA here it is:

you want this section: (but I'll c&p it over here add to it at the bottom)

Nai & the Mafia 

So in 2022 Thai BLs seriously started moving setting outside of the school systems and thus added new pronouns (for us watchers) into the mix. KinnPorsche, Even Sun, and Unforgotten Night all use the pronoun nai (นาย) for you between men. Like many honorifics & pronouns, it’s derived from a minor title of nobility. In the 19th century it was declared the official courtesy title for adult males - regarded as a direct translation of “Mr”. 

It has several different uses today. 

As a title, it only appears before the real given name (not surname), in official/formal contexts, e.g. when writing down one’s name on an exam paper, job application, or government form. If used with a nickname, it implies a bit of irony (like a teacher calling out a misbehaving student). 

As a pronoun, it’s usually an informal second-person pronoun used with males of equal status. It’s a decidedly non-rude word, so it’ll be used among friends/classmates if they don’t feel close enough to use gu/mueng (or if a person just doesn’t use rude pronouns, like swear words there are people who don’t feel comfortable ever saying guu/mueng). 

Rao/nai as pronouns used to be the default mode of address on TV before gu/mueng became acceptable to broadcast in the 2010s. 

When used by females, nai is pretty much equivalent to males using ter with females - so an old fashioned but intimate and sweet, loving. 

On TV, the use of ter/nai is probably most often associated with straight dramas in the acquaintance phase of courting. 

Nai also has the meaning “boss” (similarly to the combined form เจ้านาย (jao nai/chao nai). If it’s being used as a pronoun in a more formal or deferential context (like organized crime), it is used in this sense. 

Usage number 2 & 6 are the ones we see in Thai BL. All that said I understand as a tourist in Thailand, you will hear nai but not all that often. It’s fine to use khun instead/back, but good to know to identify nai. 

Nai & My Love Mix Up

So My Love Mix Up is using #2.

With adult males, nai is actually often paired with chan. (I know, right, but it's what they use. See any of the mafia shows.)

But in this high school setting, Atom & Kongthap seem to be using pom or sometimes even tan. (I haven't touched on tan at all because I find it the most confusing pronoun.)

Atom & Half use guu/mueng. Atom use rao/name with Mudmee, and she does they same with him. Although I think she shifts to chan with Half when they get closer.

Kongthap doesn't seem to ever use informal. Even Half uses nai with him.

So I think the use of polite nai in this relationship is being dictated by Kongthap's character's reserved gentlemanly stiffness (much as in the original show). In other words, were it not for Kongthap's personality, this show in this setting (and with this pair) would be using guu/mueng. But because of the original IP and the extreme reserve of Ida in Kieta Hatsukoi (who also uses quite formal Japanese) we are seeing a linguistic characterization of one half of a couple carry through to the tenor of the whole relationship.

In other words, the use of nai was dictated by Kongthap's personality.

Frankly put, Kongthap would simply not use guu/mueng so they had to find some other way for these two to communicate. Rao/ter is too sweet and cute and old fashioned out the gate (these boys could graduate to it, I suppose, like in college or after).

Now they might have used khun instead of nai. If this were set in uni or the office that would have worked fine. Or even if this were a high school in Bangkok. But I'm not surprised they reached for nai.

In fact, since the announcement of the adaptation I was curious about how they were going to approach Kongthap's pronouns. I thought they might make Kongthap older to solve the issue with phi but they wanted to do the "going away to college together?" part of the plot, so yeah... nai is the solution.

This couple sounds a bit stiff and distanced from each other when speaking together as a result, but I understand why the script chose it.

Hope that explains.

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[visualtaehyun]

Now that the trailer is out, I wanted to go into the tag only to find that we're strewn across several different ones 🫠 I don't want us to annoy other fandoms who are using the same tag while also being able to easily find other people's posts about the show. So! I need to know for my own sanity-

Please share cause this is driving me nuts djshdhsjs

[fuck-i-like-too-much-stuff]

Watching Satang perform as Sound after having seen him as Toey and Toey only for the past 6 months was definitely the therapy i needed

[jjsanguine]

I know there's meta reasons for Kongthap + Atom to sing with the voice of an angel in this random school play and have it never come up again but it would be funny if for the rest of the show they had to avoid school choir members trying to recruit them

[miss0atae]

I see no difference...

... and I really like this!

[hastalahamon]

the editing on that slap was top notch

that was some guy ritchie shit

first class

12/10

would watch eleventy more times

[emiwuaidmslomc]

Ultimate clown behaviour

[doestheqlcharacterkeeptheglasses]

MUDMEE - My Love Mix-Up Thailand

Does this character keep their glasses?

NO.

Mudmee only wears glasses in one flashback to the past when she meets Half. She does not wear glasses again.

[heretherebedork]

Stay here until it's safe.

[onlyrainbowshipstbh]

Papang via his Insta!

[italianpersonwithashippersheart]

I have been thinking about the Kieta Hatsukoi thai remake and my final thoughts are: that the trailer was not good, but with the right director and the right writer/writing team and a good acting coach helping the boys capturing the spirit of the original characters it could work.

[sherlockholmeson]

This is interesting to read cause I watched like 2 first parts of episode one and was not feeling it. And I put it on carb of it being yet another high school BL (I don't have patience for those anymore, it would have to have sth special about it to sell it to me and we have already seen Gemini/Forth in this setting) but I loved Japanese version. So really can't put my finger what went wrong when I haven't seen that much. But now reading other people comments I don't think I will get back to it.

I’m dropping My Love Mix Up. Aside from being a bad adaptation that doesn’t seem to understand the fundamentals of its source material, I just think it’s a poorly conceived show all on its own. The leads are miscast, the characterization is confused, the pacing and timing for beats is off, and the production quality is curiously low given how well funded it clearly is. I don’t have anything nice to say and I don’t want to show up every week to make the same complaints.

[fuck-i-like-too-much-stuff]

Lmao Tinn would never

[jjsanguine]

Kongthap: I want to know more about you before i give you an answer.

Kongthap: can you wait for me?

Kongthap: I will give you an answer soon.

Atom: ?

Atom: 💘💜💙 ⁉️