#music: john andré

[queerquaintrelle]

TURN Week 2024: Set it to Music

John André + Sympathy For The Devil by The Rolling Stones.

YouTube Link.

Yes, of course IWTV 1994 is one of my favourite movies of ever… but I digress, I see a lot of Tallmadge content in this fandom (fair enough I love him as well) but I really wanted to make André an edit and I had the recurring vision of André with "please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste."

[theaddictedwatcher]

Hello everyone!

I'm here today to introduce you to the series chosen by the winner of the last bonus article (on Instagram, @theaddictedwatcherreviews). Created by Matt Groening (The Simpsons, Futurama, The Tracy Ullman Show) and Josh Weinstein (The Simpsons, Futurama, Gravity Falls), this animated series for adults was released on Netflix in 2018 and will run until its conclusion in 2023. Made up of 50 episodes spread over three seasons, the series and its dark humour have won the hearts of audiences and critics alike. I'm talking about Disenchantment, of course!

First, as always, a short synopsis: Set in the fictional medieval kingdom of Dreamland, the series follows the story of the adventurous, rebellious and alcoholic Princess Bean, her "personal demon" Luci and her elf companion Elfo. The three of them explore Dreamland and other neighbouring lands, discovering a mythical conspiracy to which Bean is the key… And a little technical presentation: - Created by Matt Groening and Josh Weinstein - Music by Mark Mothersbaugh - Starring : Abbi Jacobson, Eric André, Nat Faxon, John DiMaggio, Tress MacNeille, Matt Berry, Maurice LaMarche, Sharon Horgan

This review is going to be a little shorter than usual, not because I didn't enjoy the show, I really did, but because I don't have that much to say about it.

GENRE

With Disenchantment, Matt Groening wanted to create an adventure in a medieval fantasy world that would allow him to move away from the very distinctive universes he had previously created with The Simpsons - set in our current world, but more centred on the United States in the 1990s - and Futurama - set in a futuristic world. So he mixed several genres in his writing, creating a unique blend that differentiates it from other animated series:

Fantasy: The main setting of the series is a medieval fantasy world called Dreamland, which includes magical creatures (elves, demons, mermaids), spells and mythical elements. The fantasy aspects allow for a creative construction of the world and the plot.

Humour: The humorous tone of the series is a key element, ranging from slapstick to dark comedy and satire. It often parodies fantasy tropes and medieval settings, using both puns and visual gags.

Adventure: Characters often embark on quests and journeys, exploring new lands and facing various challenges. These adventures drive the plot and character development.

Drama: As the series progresses, it incorporates more dramatic elements, exploring deeper themes and emotional intrigue. The relationships between the characters and their personal development become increasingly important and, by giving them depth, help to move the plot forward.

Satire: The show often satirises modern issues through its fantasy lens, criticising social norms, politics and human nature.

Science Fiction: While primarily a fantasy series, the show sometimes incorporates science fiction elements, especially in later seasons, with time travel and advanced technology in a medieval setting.

Mystery: Revelations about characters' pasts add an element of mystery to the show and help move the plot forward. Conspiracy theories and hidden truths are ubiquitous in the story.

Coming of age: Bean's journey of self-discovery and growth gives the show a very human dimension that viewers can relate to. This aspect becomes more important as the show progresses.

Adult Animation: While not as explicit as other adult animated series, Disenchantment deals with mature themes and contains mature content, both in its humour and in the themes of the story.

The mix of these genres allows Disenchantment to appeal to a wide range of viewers and to explore different storytelling styles. It differs from Matt Groening's previous work in that it relies more heavily on serialised storytelling, running throughout the series rather than episodically. It also relies more heavily on fantasy elements, while still retaining its signature humorous style.

While the balance between comedy and more serious elements is sometimes uneven, the show's ability to move from light comedy to more dramatic moments has often been seen as both a strength and a challenge in maintaining a consistent tone.

HUMOR

The humour in Disenchantment is multi-faceted, drawing on a variety of comedic styles. It uses sarcasm and wit, particularly in Luci's dialogue and Bean's quips, which are often used to subvert expectations or comment on absurd situations. Comedy derived from the personality traits and quirks of the main characters is also very present. Elfo's naivety, Luci's cynicism and Bean's rebelliousness are frequent sources of humour. Anachronisms refer to modern sensibilities and, when used in a medieval fantasy setting, allow humour to be created through the contrast between contemporary ideas and the period in which the series is set. The background jokes and visual gags are reminiscent of Matt Groening's other work and help to break up a dramatic situation. There are also small rewards for the attentive viewer in the form of hidden jokes and Easter eggs from Matt Groening's other works, as well as other pop culture creations. While the pop culture references are present, some viewers felt that they were not as clever or numerous as in Futurama, which had set the bar very high for this type of humour in animated series.

Dark humour, when used wisely, often allows morbid subjects or unfortunate events to be dealt with in a lighter way. It helps to create a balance between fantastical elements and a more adult tone, to counterbalance the tragic side of certain events, but also the very absurd touch of certain jokes. Indeed, the series exploits the bizarre and illogical aspects of its fantasy setting for comedic purposes, exaggerating the absurdity of these aspects and often taking situations to extreme or unexpected conclusions in order to make people laugh. However, the combination of dark humour and lighter jokes is sometimes awkward and creates moments of imbalance that can disrupt the viewer's appreciation.

The show sometimes breaks the fourth wall or makes self-referential jokes about the conventions of storytelling to remind the viewer of their status as witnesses and the show of its status as entertainment. Matt Groening does not hesitate to poke fun at fantasy tropes and medieval settings. It is often a social commentary on contemporary issues - such as LGBT acceptance or feminism - through the prism of fantasy. Its clever use of language and puns, particularly on proper names, are among the many devices used to construct the show's humour. It often incorporates multi-layered jokes and running gags that develop over the course of episodes or seasons. These help to create a sense of continuity and reward long-time viewers. Finally, the show also uses slapstick, which is a style of humour that goes beyond the boundaries of normal physical comedy, often involving the misfortune or clumsiness of the characters.

Overall, Disenchantment's humour is more mature and complex than typical animated films and series, while still maintaining broad appeal through its blend of comedy and humour. The series has been praised for its clever writing and ability to blend different comedic styles. However, other critics have noted that the humour is very different from that of Futurama and The Simpsons and did not appeal to them. The balance between humour and more serious, plot-driven elements has also been debated, with some feeling that the comedy has sometimes taken a back seat to the storytelling in later seasons.

In addition, some have felt that many of the jokes are too obvious or rely on tired tropes, especially when compared to the innovative humour of Futurama or the early seasons of The Simpsons. Although anachronistic humour is a staple of the show, some felt that it was overused or not always executed effectively.

After that, it should be noted that humour is subjective, and that the qualities and flaws listed above are only what I have been able to notice, but also feedback I have been able to get from people who have seen the series, and of course everyone is free to have a different opinion on any of the points mentioned.

THE ANIMATION STYLE

The animation style of Disenchantment is very recognisable and shares some similarities with Matt Groening's other works, while also having its own elements. Indeed, as in Futurama or The Simpsons, the characters have some similar physical characteristics, such as bulging eyes or a prominent upper jaw. However, the characters are more detailed and varied, with a greater variety of body types and characteristics. The characters' facial expressions are also more varied and nuanced than in The Simpsons and Futurama. This allows for more complex emotions to be conveyed through smoother animation, and also favours the show's most dramatic moments. Clothing and accessories are also more complex, in keeping with the fantasy setting.

Speaking of fantasy, the show uses a rich and vibrant colour palette that is more suited to the setting. It has a wider range of colours than The Simpsons, with more subtle shading and lighting effects. It also incorporates magical effects and fantasy elements not found in Matt Groening's other shows, using digital effects to enhance traditional animation techniques. The show also uses more advanced lighting techniques to create a different mood and atmosphere from Futurama and The Simpsons. The use of shadows and colour gradients helps to enhance the fantasy setting. The 16:9 widescreen backgrounds allow for very detailed visuals that also help to bring the medieval fantasy setting to life in a more elaborate and varied way than in Matt Groening's previous works. They reflect a more varied palette of locations and a better incorporation of magical elements. They also often contain jokes or hidden references.

On a more technical level, the series takes advantage of its fantasy setting to create imaginative and visually striking sequences. As with Futurama, the animation of the series was entrusted to Rough Draft Studios, and there are many similarities between the two work. It is further distinguished from The Simpsons, which is animated by various animation studios, including Rough Draft. The action scenes are more dynamic and elaborate than in Matt Groening's previous works. Although primarily in 2D, the series occasionally incorporates 3D elements for specific effects or scenes, and maintains a consistent style throughout the series, with gradual improvements over time.

The animation style of Disenchantment has been praised for its attention to detail, particularly in the background and character designs. The style effectively supports the comedic and more serious aspects of the series, allowing for expressive character performances and immersive world-building. Disenchantment's animation can also be seen as an evolution of Matt Groening's style, adapted to modern techniques and a fantastical setting.

CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

The character development in Disenchantment is generally considered to be one of the strengths of the series, especially as it progressed.

I won't go into the development of every single character, as that would take far too long, but I will at least touch on the work done on the three central characters of the series.

[SLIGHT SPOILERS]

First, Bean - whose full name is Tiabeanie Mariabeanie de la Rochambeau Grunkwitz - begins the series as a rebellious and alcoholic princess, running away from her responsibilities and desperate for freedom. Her impulsiveness and ability to make bad choices are emphasised in order to exacerbate the character's future development. In fact, through the adventures she will have and the discoveries she will make, she will become a more responsible and self-aware character.

Her friendships with Elfo and Luci help her to develop emotionally, learn loyalty and trust, and encourage her to excel. In addition, Bean's complicated relationships with her father, King Zøg, and her mother, Queen Dagmar, are crucial points in her development. Between Zøg's expectations of his princess daughter and heir, and Dagmar's manipulations, she is led to a more nuanced understanding of family. Her romantic experiences contribute to her character development, as they also help her to understand herself better and influence her decisions. She is faced with many ethical dilemmas, and through all these experiences she shows an evolution in her values, but also in her strength of character. Still as stubborn as ever, she ends up assuming her share of responsibilities and her role as leader but always on her own terms. Her struggles with identity, relationships, and magical abilities are relatable to the audience, and the quality of the performance by Abbi Jacobson—who voices Bean—highlights the character's ambivalence, fragility, strengths, and evolution. Bean's evolution is one of the show's strong points, thanks to the depth that has been given to her character over time. Her transformation from a one-dimensional party girl to a complex, multifaceted character with real struggles and triumphs is often cited as one of the show's strong points.

Then, the development of Luci -Lucifer- is quite interesting and unique in its kind because of its demonic nature. He is presented to us as Bean's personal demon sent to corrupt her and cause chaos and is therefore portrayed as a sarcastic and Machiavellian character regularly encouraging Bean in her worst ways.

However, as the series progresses and his relationship with Bean and Elfo develops, Luci's character begins to question his original goal and his loyalty to his demon master in order to gain his independence. This internal conflict allows us to show that the character is able to develop his moral sense beyond what he initially expected. Although he remains a demon throughout the series, it is interesting to see this ambiguity settle in him, because through his journey the viewer can see that there can be good and bad in everyone. Thanks to his sarcasm and this evolution, Luci is one of the audience's favourite characters, and Eric André's interpretation perfectly underlines this duality of comic and sentimental character. In fact, the evolution of his morals and his attachment to Bean and Elfo over the last few seasons is a perfect illustration of the journey he has taken. However, I find that in the last season the character seems more erased, more absent, and that's a shame for a character who has had one of the biggest developments in the series.

Finally, the character of Elfo! Elfo's development over the course of Disenchantment has received mixed reactions, as some viewers initially found Elfo to be one-dimensional and too naive, but his constant optimism and innocence are endearing and potentially annoying. The exploration of his origins and half-elf heritage added depth to his character and provided a context for his behaviour and outlook. Over time, Elfo has shown more complexity, dealing with issues of identity and belonging. As such, his gradual loss of innocence and assertiveness has made the character less polished and therefore more interesting. At the beginning of the series, Elfo's role was mainly to be a source of humour, but also a receptacle for Bean's doubts. But as the story progressed and he developed, his naivety gave way to more nuanced comedic moments, and while it was interesting to see him develop, the lighter side he brought was sometimes lacking. His relationship with Bean also contributed greatly to the character's maturity.

Indeed, Elfo's unrequited love for Bean was a troubling aspect of the story for me, as it came out of nowhere and seemed a little forced at first, but I am aware that some found it endearing and were able to relate to it. Personally, I found it mostly a repetitive motif and one that hindered his personal development. However, his relationships with Bean and Luci were crucial to his development and helped to highlight his growth. Overall, Elfo's journey of self-discovery, particularly regarding his heritage and place in the world, was seen as an important aspect of his arc. As he faces more complex situations, his responses to moral dilemmas add depth to his character and help to show that he has matured over the course of the series. He becomes more than just a naive sidekick, but at times his development can feel overshadowed by Bean's 'bigger' arc.

[END OF SPOILERS]

Other characters such as King Zøg, Queen Dagmar or Oona have had very interesting developments that deserve to be developed, but I don't want to say too much about them so as not to completely spoil the story for those who want to watch the series. I would just like to point out that even the secondary characters have had the right to develop their personalities and their stories, and that this has made them endearing and important characters for the development of the story.

This is a credit to the show, which has been praised for allowing characters to change and grow over time, unlike the more static characters in most of Matt Groening's work. However, there have been times during the series when character development has been sacrificed to the needs of the plot, to the detriment of certain characters' development. Nevertheless, the exploration of family dynamics, particularly Bean's relationship with her parents, is one of the show's greatest strengths.

THE END OF THE SERIES

I will not, of course, recount the events leading up to the end of the series, but I would like to briefly share my feelings.

The second part of the fourth season, released on Netflix in 2023, concludes the series. Although it attempts to wrap up most of the major plots and character arcs, I felt that some stories were rushed, trying to wrap up too many storylines in too short a time. Despite the attempts at closure, some plot points or mysteries were left unresolved or explained in a shaky way.

Nevertheless, the development of the characters and the emotional impact of the resolution of some of their plots resonated with me, particularly in relation to friendship, intra-family relationships and mental health.

The balance between humour and more serious plot elements in the finale seems rather uneven, but the fact remains that these two key elements of the series remain present throughout the story and contribute to the very specific construction of Matt Groening's works.

Although the main story has come to an end - whatever one thinks of the ending - some aspects of the ending have left room for possible future stories. As is often the case with series endings, opinions will vary greatly depending on the viewer's expectations, but for me it left me a little hungry for more, with unanswered questions and an ending that felt a little forced on the audience.

MUSIC

Disenchantment's soundtrack plays an important role in establishing the atmosphere of the series and enhancing its narrative. Composed by Mark Mothersbaugh (The Rugrats, The LEGO Movie), the soundtrack blends medieval fantasy-inspired music with more contemporary elements. It uses a mix of orchestral arrangements and electronic components, reflecting the series' blend of traditional fantasy and modern humour. It also helps to bridge the gap between the show's medieval fantasy setting and humour and more contemporary themes.

The opening theme is a medieval-style instrumental that sets the tone for the fantasy setting, but also incorporates elements that evoke both the fantasy and darker aspects of the series.

Several characters are associated with musical motifs that recur throughout the series, often evolving with the characters to reflect their development.

The music shifts effectively from comical to adventurous to darker tones to match the different moods of the series. Occasionally, there is music in the world, such as minstrel songs or tavern shows, which adds to the medieval atmosphere. Although not a musical series, Disenchantment occasionally features original songs to add to the narrative or humour.

CONCLUSION

There has been no official announcement regarding the confirmation of a sequel or spin-off to Disenchantment to address the open-ended aspects of the ending. However, Matt Groening and the show's creators have not publicly ruled out the possibility of revisiting the world, without providing further information about the possibility. Netflix, which streamed the series, has also not made any statement regarding the continuation of the series or ordering a sequel, despite the demand from fans of the series.

As for me, although the unanswered questions leave me with a slightly bitter taste, I would not want to see a new season of Disenchantment see the light of day for fear that, like too many shows, it would drag out the original story and make the series lose all the effectiveness that lay in its original writing. Why not, on the other hand, a medium-length animated film to tie up the loose ends without starting new ones that would not necessarily be needed.

All in all, I really enjoyed this series, which brings a bit of madness and freshness to our everyday lives, while at the same time dealing with themes that a large part of the audience can relate to, and also using humour to talk about social issues such as feminism and ecology.

It seems to me that I have covered everything I could possibly say about Matt Groening and Josh Weinstein's Disenchantment, so I will leave you for now and return to my viewing!

For those of you who are going to try to watch it, or who have watched it, do not hesitate to tell me what you thought of it!

As always, you can follow my adventures and the next polls on Instagram (@theaddictedwatcherreviews). I am always open to feedback and suggestions, so feel free to drop me a line if you like!

Have a good week, good viewing and see you soon!

Eli

[glimeres]

2001 Tony Awards - Kathleen Freeman introduces the The Full Monty cast, performing the number Let It Go

[melpomeneprose]

Make your own.

Tagged by: myself.

Tagging: y’all. 💕

[mychameleondays]

Blumfeld: Jenseits Von Jedem

ZickZack/WEA 5050466-7468-1-8

Released: 1 September 2003

[melpomeneprose]

♫— So now you've done a little wrong, and you need to be forgiven by the Vicar and the company you keep. And then you conjure up a fiction to get the pretty girl to listen...

[schnitzelsemmerl]

Okay so: Hazbin Hotel Characters/Characters from musicals

Charlie - maybe Veronica??? (Heathers)

Vaggie - maybe Janis??? (Mean Girls)

Angel Dust - Noel Gruber (RtC) or John André (Turn: Washington's Spies)

Cherri Bomb - Anna of Cleves (Six)

Sir Pentious - Philip Hamilton (Hamilton)

Alastor - Benedict Arnold (Turn: Washington's Spies)

Adam -

Husk - Mischa Bachinski (RtC)

Niffty -

Velvette - Anne Boleyn (Six)

Valentino - Thomas Jefferson (Hamilton)

Vox - Regina George

Lucifer - Nina Rosario's dad (In the Heights)

Lilith - John Adams (get it? Cause...theyre both gone? I'm so funny....haha)

Katie Killjoy - Heather Chandler

Tom Trench - Heather Duke

Carmilla Carmine - Catherine of Aragon (Six) or maybe Aaron Burr (Hamilton)

Zestial -

Rosie -

Sera -

Emily -

Lute -

[bikinibottomdayz]

OCTOBER 25, 2024 RELEASE

All my videos can be found here, full release under the read more! I am also offering the two Great Gatsby videos as a bundle for 30 USD! If interested, please contact me at bikinibottomtrading@gmail.com!

This release includes: Maybe Happy Ending, Moulin Rouge! (John/Solea), The Roommate, Empire Records, Great Gatsby (Alex Prakken)

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I am also offering the two Great Gatsby videos as a bundle for 30 USD! If interested, please contact me at bikinibottomtrading@gmail.com!

[queerquaintrelle]

TURN Week 2024: Switching Sides

"Some King's men who might let some things slide..." - Hamilton: an American Musical

Or: The alternate universe when John André sees how little he is valued by the English (either for his lack of ability on the Battlefield despite his deeply intellectual and clever mind - overlooked for his efforts to the cause of King and Country, God save the King! <- until Major André is actively overlooked for being French and Swiss) André's father was from Geneva and his mother from Paris. So, hearing out Benjamin Tallmadge's side of things - facing either being branded a traitor to a side which loathes him (not you Peggy Shippen) -- in a most overdramatic and xenophobic English way or facing being hung by the neck as he squirms and eventually dies of lack of air. John André, no longer Major André, says, "Gentleman, to hell with the lot of you," and joins The Culper Ring - on their side, and lives to tell the tale.

[thatrandomartistjavi]

Actors that were in Alice in Wonderland media and where you might know them better from. Part 2: 1970s-1990s

Part 1 | Part 2(you're here!!) | Part 3

1972-

Michael Crawford as the White Rabbit: The Phantom/Erik from The Phantom of the Opera Cornelius Hackel from Hello Dolly!(movie) Robert Helpmann as the Mad Hatter: Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Michael Hordern as the Mock Turtle: Jacob Marley from A Christmas Carol(1971) Davy Kaye as the Mouse: Admiral from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Roy Kinnear as the Cheshire Cat: Henry Salt from Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory Pipkin from Watership Down

Through the Looking Glass(1973)-

Sarah Sutton as Alice: Nyssa from Doctor Who Geoffrey Bayldon as the White Knight: Dr. Duval from Pink Panther(1976)

Festival of Family Classics(1973)-

Carl Banas as the King of Hearts: Head Elf from Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer Scorpion from Spider-Man(1967) Sweetums from Tales from Muppetland- The Frog Prince Grandpa Kitty from Hello Kitty's Furry Tale Theater Bernard Gouran as the Dormouse: Bumble/Spotted Elephant from Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer Paul Soles as the Cheshire Cat: Hermey from Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer Spider-Man/Peter Parker from Spider-Man(1967) Stanley Lieber from The Incredible Hulk(2008) Peg Dixon as the Queen of Hearts: May Parker/Mary Jane Watson from Spider-Man(1967)

Alice at the Palace(1982)

Meryl Streep as Alice: Donna Sheridan from Mamma Mia!(movie) Mrs. Fox from Fantastic Mr. Fox The Witch from Into the Woods(movie) Cousin Topsy from Mary Poppins Returns Dee Dee Allen from The Prom(movie) Betty Aberlin as Alice's sister: Herself in Mister Roger's Neighborhood Debbie Allen as the Queen of Hearts: Dr. Catherine Avery Fox from Grey's Anatomy Michael Jeter as the Pig Baby/Dormouse/Bill: Mr. Noodle from Sesame Street Steamer/Smokey from The Polar Express

Great Performances(1983)-

Kate Burton as Alice:

Ellis Grey from Grey’s Anatomy

Austin Pendleton as the White Rabbit:

Max from The Muppet Movie

Gurgle from Finding Nemo

Nathan Lane as the Mouse:

Timon from The Lion King

Hammegg from AstroBoy(2009)

Max Dialystock from The Producers

Gomez Addams from The Addams Family(musical)

Geoffrey Holder as the Cheshire Cat:

Narrator from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

Ray the Sun from Bear in the Big Blue House

(He was also the original director and costume designer for The Wiz(musical)

Eve Arden as the Queen of Hearts:

Principal McGee from Grease

James Coco as the King of Hearts:

Mr. Skeffington from The Muppets Take Manhattan

Donald O’Connor as the Mock Turtle:

Cosmo Brown from Singin’ in the Rain

André De Shields as Tweedle Dum:

Hermes from Hadestown

The Wiz from The Wiz(musical)

Maureen Stapleton as the White Queen:

Mama Mae Peterson from Bye Bye Birdie

CBS(1985)-

Natalie Gregor as Alice: Jenny Foxworth from Oliver & Company Sherman Hemsley as the Mouse: B.P. Richfield from Dinosaurs Shelley Winters as the Dodo: Lena Gogan from Pete's Dragon Sammy Davis Jr. as the Caterpillar: Josh Howard from Ocean's 11 Robert Axelrod as the Frog Footman: Lord Zedd from Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers-The Movie Telly Savales as the Cheshire Cat: El Sleezo Tough from The Muppet Movie Roddy McDowall as the March Hare: Mr. Soil from A Bug's Life Jervis Tetch from Batman the Animated Series Ringo Starr as the Mock Turtle: The Beatles Carol Channing as the White Queen: Dolly Gallagher Levi from Hello Dolly! Harvey Korman as the White King: The Great Gazoo from The Flintstones Sally Struthers as Tiger Lily: Rebecca Cunningham from TaleSpin Pat Morita as the Horse: Mr. Miyagi from The Karate Kid The Emperor of China from Mulan Jonathan Winters as Humpty Dumpty: Grandpa Smurf from The Smurfs John Stamos as the Messenger: Jesse Katsopolis from Full House Iron Man/Tony Stark from Spidey and His Amazing Friends(put this here cause i thought it was funny)

Anglia TV(1985)-

Joan Sanderson as the Queen of Hearts: Dorcas from The Great Muppet Caper Bernard Cribbins as the Mock Turtle: Wilfred Mott from Doctor Who

BBC(1986)-

Elisabeth Sladen as the Dormouse: Sarah Jane Smith from Doctor Who Michael Wisher as the Cheshire Cat: Davros and the Daleks in episodes that the character was involved in from Doctor Who Roy Skelton as the Mock Turtle: Daleks for The Evil of the Daleks(and 5 other episodes) from Doctor Who

Carebears in Wonderland(1987)-

Tracey Moore as Alice: Cheer Bear from The Carebears Family Share Bear from Too Many Carebears stuff to list Emma Frost from X-Men(1992) Sailor Moon from Sailor Moon(1995)(Ep. 1-11,15, and 21) Princess Toadstool from The Adventures of Super Mario Bros 3 Don McManus as the Caterpillar: David Madsen from Life is Strange Elizabeth Hanna as the Queen of Wonderland: Grandma/Mama Kitty from Hello Kitty's Furry Tale Theater

Through the Looking Glass(1987)-

Janet Waldo as Alice: Judy Jetson from The Jetsons Josie from Josie and the Pussycats Townsend Coleman as Tom Fool: The Tick from The Tick Michaelangelo/Splinter/Krang/Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(1987) Phyllis Diller as the White Queen: Queen from A Bug's Life Hal Smith as the Bandersnatch: Owl from Winnie the Pooh(until 1991)(was also the first replacement for Pooh bear himself) Josiah from Halloween is Grinch Night Gyro Gearloose/Flintheart Glomgold from Ducktales Phillipe from Beauty and the Beast Jonathan Winters as the Tweedles: Papa Smurf from The Smurfs Alan Young as the White Knight: Scrooge McDuck from Ducktales Farmer Smurf from The Smurfs Mr. T as the Jabberwock: Mr. T B.A. Baracus from The A-Team Clive Revill as the Snark/Goat: King Nod from The Thief and the Cobbler(1993,1995) Kickback from The Transformers-The Movie Will Ryan as the Paper Man: Petrie from The Land Before Time Willie the Giant from Mickey's Christmas Carol(and until his death in 2021) Harold the Seahorse from The Little Mermaid Digit/Moe from An American Tail

Burbank(1988)-

Keith Scott as the White Rabbit/March Hare/Dodo: Gordon/Diesel 10 from Thomas and the Magic Railroad Dudley Do-Right/Inspector Fenwick from Dudley Do-Right's Ripsaw Falls Popeye/Bluto from Popeye & Bluto's Bilge Rat Barges

Funky Fables(1988)-

Norma MacMillan as the Narrator: Casper from The New Casper Cartoon Show Gumby on The Gumby Show Doug Parker as the Rabbit/Frog/Mouse: Shredder from Ninja Turtles- The Next Mutation Richard Newman as the Caterpillar: General Cryptor/Emperor of Ninjago from Ninjago Professor Slopsink from Johnny Test Cranky Doodle Donkey from My Little Pony- Friendship is Magic Mr. Turtle from Franklin Rhinox from Beast Wars Alvin Sanders as the Cheshire Cat: King Sombra(season 9) from My Little Pony- Friendship is Magic Manten from Inuyasha Philip Hayes as the Hatter/Hare/Rat: Scratch from The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Mike Donovan as the King of Hearts: Yang from Ninjago Spike from Tom and Jerry Tales(2006) Lynda Boyd as Alice's sister: Nora Carpenter from Final Destination 2 Cheryl from She's the Man

Adventures in Wonderland(1992)-

Patrick Richwood as the White Rabbit: Neighbor Mr. Robutsen from The Princess Diaries Harry Waters Jr. as Tweedle Dee: Marvin Berry from Back to the Future John Lovelady as the Dormouse: Crazy Harry from The Muppets(Season 1) Terri Garr as the Duchess: Mary McGinnis from Batman Beyond Ken Page as the Walrus: Oogie Boogie from The Nightmare Before Christmas Old Deuteronomy from Cats the Musical Gilbert Gottfried as Mike McNasty: Iago from Aladdin Kraang from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(2012) Mister Mxyzptlk from Lego Batman 3 Marlee Matlin as April Hare: Melody Bledsoe from Switched at Birth

1995-

Mike Donovan as the Narrator: Yang from Ninjago Spike from Tom and Jerry Tales(2006) Doug Parker as the March Hare: Shredder from Ninja Turtles- The Next Mutation Ian James Corlett as the White Rabbit: Mr. Mint from Candy Land- The Great Lollipop Adventure Cheetor from Beast Wars Hugh Test from Johnny Test The Conductor from Dinosaur Train Skales from Ninjago Blinky from Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures

Through the Looking Glass(1998)-

Penelope Wilton as the White Queen: Isobel Crawley from Downtown Abbey Ian Holm as the White Knight: Ash from Alien Bilbo Baggins from Lord of the Rings Chef Skinner from Ratatouille Steve Coogan as the Gnat: Octavius from Night at the Musuem Silas Ramsbottom from Despicable Me 2

1999-

Tina Majorino as Alice: Deb from Napoleon Dinamite Dr. Heather Brooks from Grey's Anatomy Miranda Richardson as the Queen of Hearts: Ms. Tweedy from Chicken Run Madame Giry from The Phantom of the Opera(2004) Rita Skeeter from Harry Potter movie franchise Martin Short as the Hatter: Huy from The Prince of Egypt B.E.N. from Treasure Planet Jack Frost from Santa Clause 3- The Escape Clause Stefano from Madagascar 3- Europe's Most Wanted Jester from Legends of Oz- Dorothy's Return Grandpa Frump from The Addams Family(2019) Preminger from Barbie as the Princess and the Pauper The Cat in the Hat from The Cat in the Hat Knows a Lot About That! Whoopi Goldberg as the Cheshire Cat: Shenzi from The Lion King Gaia from Captain Planet and the Planeteers Queen Constantina from Rodgers and Hammertsein's Cinderella Ursula from Descendants 2 Gene Wilder as the Mock Turtle: Willy Wonka from Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory Dr. Frederick Frankenstein from Young Frankenstein Robbie Coltrane as Tweedle Dum: Rubues Hagrid from Harry Potter movie franchise Christopher Lloyd as the White Knight: Doc Brown from Back to the Future Profesor Plum from Clue Judge Doom from Who Framed Roger Rabbit Merlock from Ducktales the Movie- Treasure of the Lost Lamp Uncle Fester from The Addams Family(1981) Rasputin from Anastasia Ben Kingsley as Major Caterpillar: Mandarin from Iron Man 3 Bagheera from The Jungle Book(2016) Peter Ustinov as the Walrus: Prince John from Robin Hood Pete Postlethwaite as the Carpenter: Narrator from James and the Giant Peach Friar Lawrence from Romeo+Juliet Liz Smith as Miss Lory: Grandma Georgina from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Joanna Lumley as Tiger Lily: Aunt Spiker from James and the Giant Peach Lady Maudeline Everglot from Corpse Bride Murray Melvin as the Executioner: Ernest Reyer from The Phantom of the Opera(2004)

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Trolls Band Together Trailer

The Trolls timeline gets convoluted with the third movie. Ah well. During Bridget and Gristle’s wedding, Poppy finds out the Branch has four brothers, Floyd, John Dory, Spruce, and Clay, and was once part of her favorite boyband, BroZone. The band and brothers disbanded when Branch was still a baby. When pop-star villains Velvet and Veneer kidnap Floyd for his musical talents, Branch and Poppy embark on a journey to reunite the brothers and rescue Floyd “from a fate even worse than pop-culture obscurity.” (Universal Pictures)

Trolls Band Together stars the voice talents of Anna Kendrick (Poppy), Justin Timberlake (Branch), Troye Sivan (Floyd), Eric André (John Dory), Daveed Diggs (Spruce), Kid Cudi (Clay), Amy Schumer (Velvet), Andrew Rannells (Veneer), Camila Cabello (Viva), Zosia Mamet (Crimp), RuPaul Charles (Miss Maxine), Zooey Deschanel (Bridget), Christopher Mintz-Plasse (Gristle), Aino Jawo (Satin), Caroline Hjelt (Chenille), Anderson .Paak (Prince D), Ron Funches (Cooper), Kunal Nayyar (Guy Diamond), and Kenan Thompson (Tiny Diamond). Walt Dohrn is directing with co-director Tim Heitz.

Trolls Band Together hits theaters in November 2023.

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There was an Entertainment Weekly interview with JJ Feild back in 2016 where I really thought he said that Turn had decided that Clinton and André were in a relationship, but frankly given the expression on André's face after he hands him the glass, it looks more like André is reluctantly putting up with Clinton grabbing his ass for the sake of his career. (I guess this is actually "the Clinton pod person" and "the André pod person" since neither of them seem to have that much to do with their historical counterparts. Also almost all of the historical claims JJ makes in that interview are somewhere between "uh, not quite" and completely wrong.)

This would make me sad and uncomfortable if it was the real André, especially because he was really not in a position where he could piss Clinton off. He was a brevet major, not a real major, so if he ever left Clinton's family, he would get booted back down to especially junior captain (because he had gone down in seniority when he was playing musical commissions so he could stay in America and his brother could go back to England), possibly with a black mark against his name for the next time he tried for a promotion to major because London was still pissed he tried to jump the line the first time. (Clinton tried to promote André to actual major around the time he also was appointed deputy adjutant general, but Lord Jeffrey Amherst, who had to approve it, pitched a fit and said neither of the Andrés he could find - John and his brother - had been a captain long enough and Captain André wasn't getting promoted, whoever the fuck he was, so screw you.) There's a bit in Hatch where he quotes from one of André's letters to a family member (Hatch thinks his uncle John-Lewis) where he's explaining how the commission swap is good for William's career, but uh, oh yeah, it's kind of not so great for him: Should he fall from favor, or should Clinton be replaced, he could "stagnate", as he puts it, at "the bottom of the captains, with the retrospect of my disappointment for the amusement of my leisure hours." This is probably not unrelated to his poor life decision to go meet Arnold himself. (The bit where Clinton periodically tried to ragequit was presumably not doing great things for André's stress levels either, especially because it took months to find out either way. I'm semi-convinced that the reason André spent a significant part of the last year or so of his life being sick was caused by having to deal with Clinton. That or malaria.)

Fortunately the real André got promoted because he was intelligent, hardworking, freakishly good at getting people to like him, and if we're going to be completely honest probably a little bit of a brownnoser, not because he was having a sexual relationship of dubious consent with his boss. Also his career seems to have been on a basically vertical trajectory even before he met Clinton, and Grey was actively shoving him under Clinton's nose so he would be able to stay a staff officer when Grey went back to England.

But as for Turn!dré, the idea of that particular cliche being especially long-suffering while his boss sexually harasses him is hilarious, because André looking like he's about five seconds away from putting either his own or someone else's head through the nearest wall is one of the funniest things about the show.

("It's almost eight. At eight o'clock, he's going to walk in, and come up behind me, and smell my hair. I don't know why he wants to smell my hair. It's the eighteenth century and none of us have washed out hair in months and scented pomades can only do so much, especially when their base ingredient is lard. But he's going to smell my hair anyway. I hope he enjoys it. And then he's going to go sit down at his own desk and I'm going to open the bottom drawer, take out that bottle of wine, and have my fifth drink of the day. From the bottle. In plain sight. Because I don't care. There are his footsteps. Here he comes. Five, four, three...")

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André in the den of vipers

André in the den of vipers

Read all the one shots here.

Fall, 1780.

He’d been discovered. This elaborate act was up.

Even so, as John André sits in a prison cell, in the patriots camp. He doesn’t quite regret his choices.

He mourns for Peggy, of course, as any logical man would. But he decides to face it all, like the lion amongst snakes in a savage garden he is.

“Names and ranks,” Benjamin Tallmadge says. Sitting at the desk, typical of as he knows well enough now, aides to General George Washington.

“I don’t think so,” André retorts. With no hint of defeat in his voice. No, he saw the young man Benjamin Tallmadge as a challenge, an equal, and a foil in this war.

A war he’d lost, but a war he wouldn’t lose face in nonetheless…

~ October 2nd, 1780 ~

“Does the guilty have any last words?”

As he stood just ahead of the gallows John André sucked in his breath. He was not a stranger to such things as these, he simply didn’t ever believe he’d be on the receiving end. He briefly gazed at Peggy, the woman he would’ve given the world. Then, André stands atop the gallows and before covering his eyes he mutters, “Bear me witness that I bear my fate like a brave man.”