#mulan rant

[artist-issues]

Mulan is not a metaphor for neurodivergence.

Because none of you can describe what “neurodivergence” is. You can’t make a metaphor for something that is undefinable.

If you think Mulan “looks at the world a little differently than everyone else,” then sure, it’s a story with that in it. But guess what? Grandma also looks at the world differently than everyone else. Oh! And Fa Zhou looks at the world differently than Mulan! And Fa Zhou’s wife looks at the world differently than Mushu! And Mushu looks at the world differently than Shan Yu! And Shan Yu looks at the world differently than The Emperor’s Advisor!

Heyyy maybe we’re all humans who have our own unique perspectives & responses to the world around us. Some of us have some pieces of unique perspectives/responses in common, like fabrics we like the feel of or topics we happen to be focused on in this season of life, and some of us, shocker, have different pieces/responses in common! Hey, we’re all alike and we’re all unlike—which means we’re mostly alike! Even in the way we think!

Maybe you don’t need a word that means “I’m different, but not in a specifically definable way, just in a way that makes me both like and unlike some people, somewhere, sometime, depending on how ‘seen’ I need to feel in a given moment, and who/what piece of media I’d like associated with me/that given people group.”

Unless you can define “neurodivergent” beyond what I just said. Then tell me how Mulan is a metaphor for that definition—of “neurodivergent” beyond what I just said.

[zombiecheri]

I really hope Mizu and Taigen never end up together. I don't exactly dislike Taigen's character but I don't see him with Mizu. It would be so forced to me. "he bullied you in past and now likes you" trope is so shitty in my opinion. So overused, so boring, so cliche. It's doing nothing to me.

I don't see Mizu with Akemi either. As much as I want Mizu with a girl (mostly because I need a confirmation that she's indeed wlw), I don't think they're compatible. I don't see Mizu with anyone at this point. I don't think she needs a love interest. Not all characters need one, plus her past would make sense why she wouldn't want it.

Anyways, if Mizu does end up with Taigen I'll be very disappointed. I lied a little bit when I said I didn't dislike him, he is very annoying to me. He's not bad, just annoying, uninteresting and unfortunately very boring. He does nothing for me as a character.

Walmart Zuko mixed with Shang with a bald spot (I'm jealous over pixels what the fuck is my life)

[thepurecinnamonroll]

(Imma get this out there rn, but NOTHING WILL EVER MAKE ME LIKE HOOK even though this rant HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with him— I felt like it was so important for me to throw that out there...but anyway—)

Me trying desperately to explain to my mom that it's highly unlikely that Mulan was going to tell Aurora that she's in love with Prince Phillip and it was more likely that Mulan was going to tell Aurora that she loves her:

Me and my mom are well past the episode when Mulan and Aurora parted ways (we're currently in season 4 learning about Anna and Elsa's aunt), but I still think about that scene when Robinhood was like "Join my army" and Mulan was like "I have to tell someone something before it's too late" and she ends up leaving because Aurora is pregnant. When that scene happened, my mom was like "She gon tell Aurora she loves Prince Phillip" and I was confidently like "I highly doubt that because it wouldn't make sense" and then I started explaining my reasoning for thinking that. Like, Imma start off by saying I already know they established that Mulan possibly was in love with Phillip, but feelings can change— especially since Mulan and Aurora spent so much time together without Phillip and Mulan became all about protecting Aurora at some point. The reason it would make sense for Mulan to be more likely to tell Aurora that she is in love with her is because when she approached Aurora, she looked too happy to do so and it wouldn't make sense if she was that happy to tell Aurora that she loves Phillip despite knowing she's in a relationship with him— especially since Mulan respects Aurora too much to be so happily inconsiderate. The funniest part is that, at first, I also thought Mulan was going to admit that she loves Phillip, but as the scene played, it just strayed further from that direction. Especially when she asked Aurora if Phillip was around and Aurora was like "No, do you need me to get him? (or something like that)" and Mulan was like "No— it's okay I only need to talk to you" and that kinda solidified for me. Not to mention the way Mulan seemed so flattered that Aurora was smiling so happily at her and then she looked so hurt to know that Aurora was pregnant.

[femslashspuffy]

I think it's really interesting that Mulan and She's the Man both have the same little detail where the main characters are pushing the toxic masculinity so hard because that's what they think is expected of them in these athletic all-male settings, and then they miss the male social cues that usually allow guys to be more genuine and talk to each other about their feelings

Viola and Mulan both get so in their heads with an idea of what a man is like that they can't just be a person. Which is interesting because at times they're right that stopping the 'all that' will get them clocked but also they dont know how to be emotional in a male-coded way. So they get weird!!

These movies are such a representation of the culture of the time I would love to watch something like them made today

[priarity]

‘blue eye samurai is like GOT and mulan combined hahaha’ how small minded can you get omfg

[insanely-lovely-and-random]

Joker 2 rant cause it's always a rant with me ( but a mini one) Just wanted to say this, cause everyone on the internet apparently thinks the entire planet hates musicals (Or think the entire movie going audience is boring ass men who think all musicals are lame for some godforsaken reason). I'm so fucking psyched for this shit. An artistic jukebox musical with Phoenix and Gaga?? Yes fucking please! I couldn't tell you how uninterested I was in a Joker sequel UNTIL I found out it was a musical. That trailer slapped so fucking hard I lost a tooth.

Cannot freaking waittttt

[cursedfallingmoon]

IM FINALLY BACK ON THE CREATIVE TRAIN. I SWEAR THIS TIME IM NOT LYING. GONNA GET GB MULAN OUT BY THE END OF TODAY. OR SO HELP ME

[robbierants]

Li Shang Is A Bisexual Legend

Li Shang, voiced by BD Wong with Donny Osmond providing the singing voice in the 1998 film, was one of the most popular characters in the original animated "Mulan." His complex character was a departure from the more mundane, hollow love interests past Disney princesses had fallen for.

He was far more interesting, for instance, than any of the interchangeable princes in "Cinderella" (Prince Charming), "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" (who is not even given a name and is referred to only as The Prince), "Sleeping Beauty" (Prince Phillip), and "The Little Mermaid" (Prince Eric).

"Mulan" dared to be different with Li Shang, a fully fleshed-out character with his own desires and difficulties.What really made his character stand out, though, was that he was clearly bisexual.

It may not be overtly stated, but his relationship with Mulan strongly suggests he is. Li Shang doesn't fall for Mulan after she reveals herself to be a woman — he's drawn to Mulan while she is still in disguise as Ping, a male soldier.

While Mulan is presenting as Ping, their relationship suggests intimacy and desire rather than soldierly respect or male camaraderie. You can actually pinpoint the moment when Li Shang seems to realize he's into Ping:

Yes, he is smiling because Ping has gone from a clumsy soldier to an incredible warrior. But any Disney fan will recognize that look — it's the same sort of moment as in "Beauty and the Beast" when Belle and Beast begin to like each other and sing "Something There." Both sets of characters come to an understanding that is strongly suggested to be more than friendship.

In "Mulan," traditional romantic relationships are pushed to the side, presenting Mulan as a fiercely independent heroine with her own story and agency. This was hugely inspirational to many young girls and Asian people, and it still is — but so, too, was the subplot of Li Shang's bisexuality (Link below)

It meant a lot to LGBTQ viewers, particularly kids growing up at that time who felt alienated and alone, to see themselves represented in a major Disney movie in such a natural way, even if it wasn't explicitly stated.

[heydranga]

Hey welcome back to random thoughts with yours truly.

Today's random thought is about mulan.

I think the Huns/hans? Are better people then the men from china.

Let me explain!

They aren't sexist at all. They saw a village and killed everyone leaving no survivors. Shan Yu saw Mulan was a woman and wasn't like "A woman defeated me?" Nah he was like "The SOLDIER from the mountains" he saw Mulan as an equal regardless of her gender.

In the og story when mulan was discovered she became the emperors concubine and committed suicide.

In the disney version she would have been killed by shang if she didn't save his life.

Also shout out to Ling, Yao, and Chin Po. They saw her fight and we're like nah that's our equal we all would have died without her brain power bro.

Also Shang should have been gay, let's be honest.

Anyway, I feel like Mulan's father was the goat because you know he taught her how to ride a horse and he probably would have thrown hands with any man who dared to mistreat his daughter. He knew his daughter was a tomboy and encouraged it for years. You also know he adored his wife as his equal rather than as someone who should give him sons.

The Huns mostly likely treated women the same way. I don't get how the only way a woman can bring honor to her family is by giving birth to sons. Like come on. "We need more people for the war but oh no not women" what type of sense does that make?

I've recently discovered that some people ship Mulan and Shan Yu at first I didn't get it but then I actually thought about how he would at least look at Mulan as a equal rather than an enemy.

Also disney never gave the reason why The Huns had beef with the emperor.

Now onto the 2 mulan movie. The emperor was ready to give all his daughters to a man he himself never met. That's like sending your children to a harem or pimping them out to strangers.

Shang out right pissed me off in the 2nd Mulan movie. Like I get it Mushu was wrong for trying to split them up but I feel like he was revealing how their relationship was always rocky. Shang didn't even bother to really listen to Mulan or ask her opinion on what she wanted.

Like when the villagers were asking questions they were literally opposites. How do you expect Mulan to give you as many children as possible did you not catch on in the time you guys have been dating that Mulan loves her independence and that she didn't want to be the one stuck at home with the children while you did whatever?

When Shang was thought to have been dead I was excited I was like yes now Mulan to live out her life as a Kung Fu master who trains girls to be their own person. Then the whole I'll marry the prince in the princesses place thing happened and I gagged.

Love should never be treated as a 1 way street or a way to control or to make ends meet. You either see each others as equals, think of each others feelings, ask what the other wants out of life and see if it has conflicting interests, actually communicate your problems rather then being quick to start a fight or dismiss the other.

Ugh anyway that was my rant, have a nice day, stay safe out there.

[bellamysgriffin]

hard to contribute to the snow white discourse rn bc so much of it is just an excuse to hate on rachel zegler, and i think casting her in that role is nothing short of a revelation. that said….

with this whole “she’s not gonna be saved by the prince” nonsense….. an adaptation of snow white that doesn’t include the true loves kiss is kinda pointless tbh… like make a new story at that point. also that’s literally ALL the prince does to save her like he JUST kisses her.

and then the whole “she’s not gonna dream of true love she’s gonna dream of becoming the leader she knows she can be” is weird too because i just don’t think we need to girlbossify EVERY disney princess. the most dated thing about snow white is that she becomes the pseudo mother for 7 men and cooks and cleans for them, not wanting love.

if EYE were making a snow white adaptation, i would emphasize the power of kindness idea bc like… that’s fully present in the original film. like the huntsman saves her… bc of her goodness. the dwarves take her in … bc of her goodness. the prince falls in love with her bc of her beauty yes but also… her innate goodness/kindness. i think you can really draw that theme out a lot more and emphasize it in a way that would modernize and update the story without basically scrapping it and turning into yet another sterile girlboss disney story.

that said, i do hear queen greta is writing the script so i ultimately mostly trust it and will likely be giving my money

[xiao-lantern]

saw a tiktok that said “[Mulan] would’ve been so much better if she was a guy” bc of the whole “Shang finding out Mulan’s actually a girl and not a femboy” stuff as if… as if the WHOLE POINT of the movie wasn’t supposed to be that Mulan was a girl in a country who oppressed women (+ forced men to fight even in their old age or if they were disabled) and she broke the status quo of being a “submissive” “weak” woman… like?? sorry that the Disney movie is based on an actual legend and not your average ao3 fanfic 💀

[femslashspuffy]

I really never realized before that Mulan and Shang dont kiss in the first movie. It's almost not even part of the story. There are hints of it before she's outed and there are hints of it after and it gets kinda explicit at the end but it also has this kinda quality of "let's see how we fit now that we CAN have this heterosexual relationship" and it's actually kinda adorable

The fact that "you fight good" is actually what he chooses to say goodbye to her like it's crazy

[orphancookie69]

Nintendo Switch: DDLV-Update 10

Princess season is here! Wait, that's a lifestyle choice for some of us! As a girl who grew up with Disney, at a time when disney had way less characters and content, I love seeing some girl power in the valley.

Update 9: The Lucky Dragon

Mulan and Mushu are nice in the valley, they had a cute storyline. Their starpath had some really nice stuff and while I did not do it myself, I heard from others the "quality of life" concerns for the changes made to starpath duties was somewhat addressed. I found Mulan and Mushu to have more quests than characters usually have?

Update 10: Dapper Delights

Tiana joins the valley, following remy's wannabe doordash-a perfect entrance for a fellow chef to enter the valley. The timing works for marketing as well as Splash Mountain is turning into Tiana's Bayou Adventure, as well as a restaurant in Disneyland being turned into "Tiana's Place".

Tiana comes in the quickest and cheapest, as far as time and dreamlight and money goes. Her house is cute and she eventually comes with another restaurant and cart. There were a couple of quality of life changes-NPC are faster and don't have sleep schedules anymore. To bring Tiana in, check your mail and find a book in the Glade of Trust.

The Dapper Delights starpath is super cute so far, I love the vintage stuff. The premium shop changes weekly, lately I have been seeing it have more bundles and a "sale" section.

I personally have some mixed feelings about this update. But so far it looks good and it is nice to have a good in game quality of life. The paid update for Rift in Time also released. Stay tuned for that post!

[oreolesbian]

barry jenkinssss you could’ve been making that alvin ailey biopic you had in development, sir pleaseeeee not the mouse 😭

[skatoonyfan1234]

FUCK YOU, TOONGIRL18, YOU SHITHEAD!

[ratsrunningaround]

not over mulan not having any more music after the war scene