#much to consider there.
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57sfinest Ā· 2 years ago
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i wanted to look at the symbolism of the ocean in disco elysium because it features so prominently in the setting. insulinde being an isola comprised of islands, martinaise as a port town financially anchored by its ocean trade. the divisions brought by water that we see in the geography: how the canal separates the working district of martinaise from the even poorer, commerce-less village-- how the river esperance separates the worst ghettos of revachol and jamrock from the more rebuilt and financially stable districts-- how, for example, lilienne looks across the bay of revachol to the wealthy district of la delta, a poignant moment of separation between someone desperately poor and the towers of wealth built out of the ruins of revachol. we see water, and often the sea specifically, acting as a divider in various contexts.Ā 
the ocean of time and distance that separates dora and harry, that separates klaasje from oranje:
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then, further into the idea of the ocean as representative of time: in various contexts i see the ocean as representing the past. memory residing under the waves, and each of us living above water-- in the present-- but often still helpless to the tides when weā€™re not careful. to me this is cemented by the implication that the pale is commonly theorized as an *outer ocean* (juxtaposed with harryā€™s introspective skill, inland empire!!): the pale is the past, and if the pale is seen as an outer ocean, then right there is a tangible connection between the two. memory and the past as an ocean, dangerous if you donā€™t respect its power, but ultimately navigable. there is frequent reference made to the fact that the bombed ruins of martinaise are sinking or lost into the ocean, lost to the past, now only memory.Ā 
and harry, who is living in the past and being consumed by nostalgia like a rot, drives his car into the ocean. harryā€™s badge, which is conflated with his identity in the aftermath of his amnesia, was underwater before he pulled it from the car: until he got it, his entire identity was lost with his memory in the past. klaasjeā€™s documents, too, presumed lost to the ocean, a loss of who she was or claimed to be (until you meet the phasmid). lilienneā€™s husband was lost to the waves, and in the same lines sheā€™ll dismiss your concerns-- heā€™s in the past now, sheā€™s really not too upset. the cleaning lady, abandoned by the world, who has only her own memories for company in her sea-beaten room. in the context of rubyā€™s near-suicide in the shack, how inland specifies how the ā€œwaves had calmedā€ as she put the gun away: ruby distancing herself from the past that she thinks is chasing her to form a better plan. the working-class husband, who, had his corpse fallen through the boardwalk into the ocean, would have been lost to the past, living only in the memory of billie and their daughters.
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for me, the final dream had some of the heaviest but most subtle inclusions of the ocean symbolism. itā€™s brought on by looking into the ocean around the seafort and takes place under the ocean somewhere. even before the dream, dora is alluded to in the context of the sea. she moved across the ocean and now, to him, sheā€™s lost under it. sheā€™s trapped in his memory.
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where we see things half-submerged or partially oceanic, we see a bridge between the past and the present being represented. something partially lost to the past but still with a foot in the here and now. harryā€™s half-sunken car, in part a representation of his career: part of his past, yes, but still very much in his present. one of the primary spiritual practices we hear of is the volta do mar: originally a palefarerā€™s practice to keep them grounded in an onslaught by the past, and its meaning is *return from the sea*. when harry tries to turn back time, he wants to go back to a time when the sun had not yet sunk into the sea-- when the light in his life didnā€™t reside solely in the past.
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also in this context, something that really struck me was how harry will sometimes think of himself in the context of the sea. first is the sea monster thought, brought about by the broken plaza: him as a creature submerged in the past, terrorizing the present. and seafaring brought up to represent a kind of compromise between living in the present and acknowledging the draw of nostalgia. even joyce in her limited knowledge of harry compares him to a ā€œhalf-submerged ruinā€. and when harry is prompted into introspection by the dros predicament, inland empire becomes the *inland sea*.
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and i really want to make a final, individual point of this. the whirling-in-rags music is sea powerā€™s song ā€œfire escape in the seaā€. there is an explicit reference made to the song by shivers as well, and i think the choice of this song is very intentional. the whirling-in-rags is where harry forgot his whole life, the whole world, and itā€™s where he wakes up and begins to piece it all back together. the whirling-in-rags is harryā€™s fire escape in the sea. his bridge between his past and his present, his last-ditch attempt at escape from the tortures of his subconscious.Ā 
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(this is by no means exhaustive, there are a lot of other moments where the sea comes in, but i included the moments that spoke to me most. youā€™re welcome to add your own!)
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lapdogchase Ā· 6 months ago
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i think weight loss ads should be illegal and im not kidding
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problemnyatic Ā· 4 months ago
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when will we talk about the willful helplessness epidemic on here. So many people on this god forsaken website demand to have any and all things that exist outside their personal experiences directly, personally pre-chewed and spoonfed to them. And when you do, they'll then ask for you to swallow for them, too, because, you see, in THEIR experience..,
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fosliie Ā· 6 months ago
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College roommates, lab partners, to basically married pipeline
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eosofspades Ā· 2 years ago
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i didn't have "i'm broken" teenage asexual angst i had "i'm literally being the only reasonable one about this concept and the rest of you are behaving like fucking freaks" perception issues
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doom-dreaming Ā· 10 months ago
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"when i was your age, i was working three jobs to help support my family" and "when i was in college i was sleeping on a mattress on the floor and living off of soup"
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO THAT. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT THIS ISN'T A CHARACTER-BUILDING LESSON, IT'S JUST BAD
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slightlyartist Ā· 5 months ago
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Tate deserves to punch Ford so I drew it, felt really therapeutic <3
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sapphicides Ā· 27 days ago
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ā€œclaudia de pointe du lacā€ ā€œclaudia de lioncourtā€ ā€œclaudia de pointe du lac de lioncourtā€ did you fools ever consider claudia eparvier. did you ever consider that she would absolutely take madeleineā€™s last name because madeleine is the only one who ever put her first and that she would want to repay her by putting her first too. did you consider this
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vampmilf Ā· 5 months ago
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walking distance poll
ā€¢ speaking for your own definition in a private context (for example not what you would expect when a hotel advertises a "beach at walking distance" but rather if you want to go somewhere, what distance do you consider within your personal walking distance)
ā€¢ you can walk at any pace you like, fast or slow
ā€¢ you can take as many breaks as you like, the only thing that matters is the total time that it takes you to get from point A to point B
ā€¢ you can use any medical mobility aids you want/need to cross the distance
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humming-fly Ā· 3 months ago
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He was feeling left out
and the higher rez stills, since gifs always export as if you're sending messages through a metal can~
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egophiliac Ā· 1 month ago
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2025 is the year of the DRAGON SLIPPERS
#art#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#kutsurogi my room#eyestrain#(just a little) (that purple is a beast)#happy new year everybody!#still catching up but i needed to bust in to be extremely validated about some anime slippers#I KNEW IT i knew he'd have some doofy footwear!!!!#they're even actually dragon slippers!#i just got the wrong end of the dragon. whoops.#god. i love this idiot so much.#lilia really does have the best character development huh#lilia 600 years ago: i exist only to defend my kingdom against humanity. (eats a frog without breaking eye contact)#lilia today: wah i stubbed my toe :( i can't find my eyelash curler :( the sun is too bright :(#(this is not a complaint i genuinely love this silly grampa)#most relatable groovy ever tbh#sigh. i gotta have a serious think about my keys now.#i didn't get ANY of the new cards (not even the srs...)#i did get bloom lilia(!!!) from the mission pulls so that kinda made up for it but now i'm like#weighing the odds that birthday malleus is going to be in sweatpants...#i just feel deep in my bones that this upcoming mal card is going to be the funniest yet#(and this is saying something considering his og card literally is wearing a little frilly sash that says 'birthday boy')#honestly though no matter what malleus wears it's going to be incredible#this man has such an intrinsic vibe of dark hooded cloakiness that whenever he wears anything else it's guaranteed hilarity#sometimes i like to think about how he just wanders around campus in his little blazer and tie and it's the best
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burstfoot Ā· 1 month ago
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yellowyola Ā· 1 month ago
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Benzo doesn't get paid anything at all to deal with this šŸ˜”
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shyhandart Ā· 10 months ago
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eddiediazenjoyer Ā· 3 months ago
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eddie in s7 (in his destroying his life era): call tommy šŸ™‚
eddie in s8 (in his eddie who is going to be okay era): i cannot in good conscience let you call tommy.
bobby in s7 (suicidal): tommy's good for you šŸ™‚
bobby in s8 (fine ig): tommy is kinda like alcohol when you think about it........
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chloesimaginationthings Ā· 7 months ago
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Michael is very subtle about his daddy issues in FNAF..
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