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onewomancitadel · 2 years ago

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Fandom, platforms, narrative criticism and entertainment, etc.

Based on a post I made last night I think in fandom spaces and media analysis spaces (especially the layperson's end) there has to be, or will be, a distinction made between videos of critiqued rooted in considered narrative analysis of justified length for artistic/critical purposes versus several hour long videos presented as the equivalent of a friend's rant for entertainment purposes.

This is actually in the interest of fairness, because I think harsher criticism of the latter (coherent theory of 'good art', coherent theory of narrative analysis, coherent style of constructive criticism) predicated upon the former, for which it's mistaken for, is actually really unfair. It's not the same thing. The problem of course emerges when it treated like it is, and instead of a friend's opinion, it now predominates the narrative surrounding [x] media. This guy or that guy made a video on it, and it sucked, so I'll regurgitate those same beliefs unreservedly.

I'm not commenting on the parasocial element here - really all it's doing is representing why it's entertaining (listening to a friend's opinion and having discussion with other people about a thing you like is fun!), and why it has unique consequences because of the usual platform the Video Essay or the pithy Tweet happens on, which are platforms where your presence can be larger than life (and there is usually a sense of authority assigned to a YouTuber who makes YouTube videos about a particular set of coherent topics, especially popular media analysis).

Blogs like my own actually intermingle both genres of response - it's not a perfect divide - but I think it's moving towards some workable distinction to clarify why obviously critically untenable and critically unreasonable positions begin to predominate online narratives surrounding art and media. I enjoy listening to people close to me rant about things (for love or hate!) for as long as they like and actively take interest in what they enjoy (it is not universally true that we don't like listening to other peoples' interests even with no self-interest - think of how many people watch videos about media they'll never watch by YouTubers they like).

Is it a distinction between personal taste and an objective value of art...? No, I'm not actually making so grandiose a statement, and I think personal taste incorporates genuine critical consideration, and objective value arguably has value which transcends a work artistically (e.g. culturally!). What I actually mean to define is only the method. What often postures on media analysis on YouTube is often a stand-in for like and dislike - what I think really successful criticism does is appreciates the aims and intentions of a work and judges it by those metrics (regarding film, this is obviously a more Roger Ebert position, and I actually don't know how popular this belief is). On critical and artistic terms I think that is the most tenable, and obviously the beauty of art is its subjectivity!

On the other hand, that subjectivity is in part suppressed by predominating narratives online - especially when it informs interpretation of a work before you've even seen or read it. That's really the origin of my critique, I suppose: what other people say online shouldn't immediately decide your opinion, or present itself as considered analysis, or present the 'correct' interpretation of a work, or create a whole movement of analysis motivated by spiteful, willful hatred, which you then monetise so incentivising your style of 'critique', and keep ruining the fandoms for.

I can definitely see the entertainment value in the video essay style I've scorned before! I think that matters! There are definitely conversations to be had about 'out of touch' modern critics - and it's not like the whole realm of narrative criticism is perfect - but I think talking about evolving platforms of interaction, and the way we express our thoughts matters, and most interestingly in the age of fandom we are in a new movement. Fandom is really opening up - it's not geeky and embarrassing, fandom theories go viral on the Internet, it's more mainstream than ever - to the point that what I would call 'media criticism' online is almost interchangeable with it, and that's why I think the topic is so interesting. What might've once been a forum post is now a YouTube essay - the equivalent of a friend ranting - and with that I think you can see the ecosystem of fandom changing.

There are really interesting (and equally disturbing) examples of this, and of course it might change overnight or equally be changing with TikTok - e.g. I have seen flagrantly bizarre fantheories pick up viral traction (secret parentage theories!), and that is obviously prioritising one set of interpretation (controversy) over another, but that's really beyond the scope of this post. At the very least, you can see how platforms interact with and cultivate fandom, and the way that interacts with criticism, and the way that interacts with our own cultivated beliefs, and the ever-evolving problem of art vs. entertainment vs. inherent value.

I'm not sure if I've come up with something wholly definite, but at the end of the day all I really want to do is give whomever is reading this something to think about, especially on the authority of narrative analysis, and figuring out your own interpretation.

#stirring the pot

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weaselbeaselpants · 4 years ago

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Weird week behind me weird week ahead of me but I’ve done a lot of self reflection and came to the weirdest epiphany. The older I get the more I realize all my ‘problems�� with VivziePop - her thoughts on criticism; the choices she makes in story telling; some of the people she’s worked with (not that any of that’s my business; I’m not her mom) really aren’t about Viv, but more about her fandom.

I’m speaking of the preHazbin era Viv here and as someone who’s only watch horny fish jump at the surface rather than jump straight into the Hazbin-fandom, but given my ‘noncritical’ fellow fans have told me that the Vivziefandom now is also terrible - I guess I’ll go over my experience and make the most out of what I do know.

I followed Viv in 2009 and fell off in 2013 cause I kinda just lost interest and found myself wrapped up in other fandoms. I’ve always felt amicable about her content; I could give or take designs or the way in which she wrote characters -- ((Zech represent!!!)) but it’s honestly surreal and really fun seeing this person I recognize make it big and improve so much. Like I’ve said before I am very happy and very impressed with Viv doing all she’s done in the span of TWO YEARS. wow gurl.

Trouble is, there was the particular breed of fan who really made me...uncomfortable. They felt almost possessive of Viv’s attention. They sang praises about her work in a way that just made me want nothing to do with it because I was worried if I drew those characters these people would be like ‘hey, I’M Viv’s fav artist, not you!”. They would unironically write Viv messages like:

“you are a GOD” -- “I’m so not worthy compared to you” --“I wish I was as talented as you” -- “YOU ARE EVERYTHING AND CAN’T DO WRONG VIV”.

The kind of messages which were meant to sound flattering but, intentional or not, came off as gaslighting, like they were guilt tripping Viv about being better than them. This behavior, treating your favorite artist/internet personality like your superior and groveling like Starscream, it strikes a nerve with me; partly because I was this way with my favorite artists and influences back in the day, but also because once I got a taste of that treatment myself I realized just how bad it could be:

There was once a girl on dA who was jealous of me because of the attention I got on my art instead of her. I told her that I wasn’t gonna stop drawing but also that there was nothing wrong with her art and she’d find her place. It was weird being put in that position where someone is very clearly upset at you but also looking for your approval.

The second was some scumball who I blocked in 2016. He wouldn’t speak to me, only write condescending, backhanded comments on my art; check on my profile daily; call me a bootlicker (cuz I took commissions) behind my back; redrew my art and would talk about me in his personal artist notes about how I ‘probably wouldn’t see this’ - oh yeah all the while he did fan art of my characters but again never spoke to me when I replied. When I finally messaged him about his behavior he said he thought I was “really overrated” and “bad for the fandom” cuz I took money and kept him from getting the love he deserved. It took messaging another person within our fandom, one I had been in spats with online before, to finally realize I shouldn't put up with that bs....

That guy who was stalking me btw did so while I was well under 1.K watchers and am still pretty obscure. Anyway, I had one guy unhealthily watching me for the wrong reasons. Just one. This is why when Viv says she “hates creeps” I 150% believe this woman and am not about to call her a liar who just can’t take criticism. Like, if you really think that, I’m sorry but you don’t know what Viv’s gone through from both her critics AND fans.

Of course, a lot of people will be like “I bet you’re just jealous and really just want that kind of attention yourself so you’re preaching to the choir”, but like...no. I am envious of just about any creator who’s the social butterfly I’m not, but, like, if I'm jealous of an artist none of that is that artists’ fault. Ever. It’s my own issues with being comfortable with myself are at stake. If I criticize Viv’s work it’s not because I see her as competition or my Squilliam Fancyson; it’s because I’m a critical fan of animation and cartoons and have my own thoughts to share on the cartoons of an artist I’m familiar with. Jealousy/envy/mixed-admiration/godIwishthatwereme.jpeg feels are totally natural and valid emotions when you’re a creator. Envy becomes a problem when you internalize, weaponize, and scrutinize people on the basis of them being what you aren’t which -yes - some people do in the name of criticism. ((Although, I would hardly say some of the nastiest AntiViv folk are jealous as much as they are angry that this project they think is harmful is getting attention and using that as justification for some really shitty behavior of their own, which no, this post is not a part of by virtue of coming from a critical fan.))

Critique can come from either a good place or bad place; good critique can be used to bad ends and bad critique can come from a well-meaning place, and vice versa. It’s the difference between many a criticalfan having a sour taste in their mouth regarding the Viv’s base but persisting in a critique+admiration separate of that, and this asswipemonster trying to weasel his way into Spindlehorse while also bashing Viv on a public forum for clearly vitriolic reasons. He was a creep.

So yeah um please stop insisting that every Hazbin critic is just jealous’ because a) there are people who have a past with Viv’s base and that clouds their judgement, but in a lot of cases that doesn’t invalidate their feelings or thoughts on her work separate from that, and b) I’ve seen what clingy gaslighting jealous fans are. Spoiler: they’re not so much Annie Wilkes as much as they are Tommy Wiseaus. You don’t want Tommy Wiseau following you.

Another bad vibe I really picked up on that I can kinda confirm is still probably the case now: people think that they know Viv and the Spindlehorse crew and have the right to send them shit they don’t need or WANT to be seeing.

Like, I talked with Viv once ages ago. I don’t remember what I said other than we were talking about Frankenweenie, I think. She was nice. Outside of that she said “thank you” to my comments on her deviations but that’s it. I DO NOT KNOW THIS WOMAN AND unless you’ve worked with or are a legit friend/mutual of hers, NEITHER DO YOU. But I don’t think every Vivzie stan/critic knows this. Whether it be people assuming she MUST think they’re headcanon is now canon-canon cuz she liked a comment they made; or some critic thinking they must have seriously hurt her pride because they’ve been blocked by her on twitter (or you know, maybe she and the rest of Spindlehorse is tired of getting @s and don’t have to time to read through your analysis so they’re gonna just block and move on cuz they’re busy).

Just because the creators talk with fans doesn’t mean fans are literally their best friends and have a part in the show’s direction. And yes, critics and reviewers fit that bill as well. Know your damn boundaries people.

If you find/make some kind of contribution as a viewer that’s awesome but you should never expect nor DEMAND the creator see it. The most obvious horror stories involving this and Helluva/Hazbin have been the Instagrams made by the crew being harassed by incestpedo enthusiasts, but it applies even to just @ing creators as well.

I’ve seriously had someone tell me to just take my criticisms directly to Viv and like...no. Why would I do that?

I respect Viv and the artists working with her enough to know that they’re working their asses off on an animated series and should not be bothered. I don’t want them to stop all they’re doing and reply to me. I want them to keep working. Also, that kind of logic makes me wonder how many critics Viv’s found because she found it on her own or if some obsessed fan told her about it - which is really messed up cuz if it IS just good critique you’re, again, just pestering her, and if it wasn’t critique but full on harassment WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU MESSAGE HER ABOUT THAT ANYWAY? I’m sure she doesn’t need to be reminded that people drew and said really awful shit about her on Tapatalk. My point being I’m sure what people think they’re doing is

“OOOoh Viv lookitwut this person is doing in our fandom we need to ban together against this toxic behavior”

but what they’re actually doing, and sounding like, is -

“Hey Viv I know you are working so hard on the show and you’re trying to figure out where to go from here but LOOKITWHUTTHISHATERSAID. LOOKATIT! VALIDATE ME VIV AND PUT’EM IN THEIR PLAAAAAACE!”

TL;DR Viv’s fanbase back in the day consisted of everyman artists and interests but there was this one breed of fan -who I hope was just a vocal minority- that ruined it for everything else.

Call it stanning or ‘simping’ or as it’s classically known, ‘white knighting’, whatever it was it really soured a lot of people on her because of those fans.

That’s why the DollCreep drama got so bad from what I can tell. Doll and Viv had a falling out and then called out eachother online where people who took it upon themselves to speak for them starting throwing mud.

Back in the day I remember Viv used to get mad at artists for ‘stealing’ her style. I think this attitude from Viv directly has vanished but I remember it happening because one of the people she thought was stealing her style did art for me at some point and they were basically shamed/chased off deviantART by a gaggle of these really nasty Vivfans.

inb4> “VIV WAS AWARE AND STILL WEAPONIZES HER FANS THO”

I don’t know that. And honestly, where I’m inclined to believe she’d do something like that then I think Viv is really different and has improved her business and public image from her college days. I’d be very disappointed in her if she was pulling a Butch Hartman or Derek Savage, but I just don’t think she is one, k?

Viv is more self critical and aware than any of these uber protective-gatekeeping fans give her credit for. She said on the Pizzapartypodcast that she knows the Hazbin pilot wasn’t perfect; she’s been able to identify the problems with old Zoophobia; this woman knows that criticism of all kinds need to exist and from what I see she sounds like she’s trying to get used to that. It’s just, you know, when you have nasty antis badgering you, stalkers, obsessive yes-mam’ fans, opinionated shit posters, r34 artists, entitled shippers and the NDAs of a company alongside your own branded image - all that negativity, even the constructive bits, tend to clump together and you just want to scream at it so you can finish the damn cartoon already!!!!

TL;DR: PART TWO

VivziePop/mind is basically indie Tim Burton. Her work is fun, shallow and made with love but is marketed as being for everyone when it’s really not. Parts of it I love to watch; parts of it drives me crazy cuz of reasonswhatev this isn’t a review.

BUT any fanbase where people tell me I should just “expect what’s coming to me” when I’m trying to argue against dragging creators into fandrama is troubling. People have a parasocial bond with fandoms and their creators and they need to learn when to back off.

#vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss critical #critical fandom #I'm sorry to all the people I messaged n bothered over the past year bout my stupid thoughts #tw: stalker

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spring-books · 4 years ago

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for the last couple of days ive been riled up as fuck by some absolutely rancid takes about how cql is a better narrative than mdzs. nothing new, just the usual trash about mxtx’s writing being homophobic for - spins roulette wheel of contrived reasons. honestly, the antis cycle through some truly astonishing leaps of logic to suit their biases and will say pretty much anything to prove their non existent points.

anywho, i got mad, and basically did the virtual equivalent of snapping at someone, cause they were regurgitating the same asinine takes that have been discussed and explained to death by multiple blogs. i didnt mean for it to be a personal attack on any specific blog, it was just the post right at the top of my dash on a particularly bad day.

i dont mean to guilt anyone or be rude about anyone’s personal preferences for a certain adaptation or medium. that is not my intent at all. if you like cql over mdzs, good for you. enjoy yourself and indulge in fandom in whatever way brings you joy without hurting other people!

the thing that really gets my goat (and what my earlier comment was actually about) is people specifically coming into the tags for the novel and spreading shit all over the space for fans of the novel with biased lies and misinformation about the canon, to sound morally superior.

if you are of the earlier type of blogger, please continue and i wish you a very pleasant day! but, if you’re the second type of blogger, i hope you step on multiple legos for the reasons stated under the cut, cause this shit is about to be long.

there are many very valid reasons that you could legitimately dislike the novel or critique it for. but, somehow cql only people never bring up any actual literary analysis or critique apart from the much reused and recycled ‘homophobic stereotypes’, ‘sexual deviancy’, and *checks smudged handwriting on hand* ‘for using narrative devices, genre tropes and generally having plot that isnt paper thin and has nuance’.

this isnt a particularly new fandom, tho i did come into it later than most. so, i really thought that the fandom would be much more settled and all of the early discourse about misunderstanding the source material that new fandoms have, would have been put to rest. i couldnt have been more wrong unfortunately.

digging even very shallowly into the tags for the novel throws up so much extra context, meta, clarification and discussion lovingly and painstakingly written and compiled by blogs and chinese fans, about the same exact topics that cql only people like to bandy about. but, it also brings up tons of muck that castigates mxtx’s work as ‘homophobic’ and ‘glorifying sexual violence’ and all manner of other unsavoury accusations that have little to no textual evidence to back it up except for people’s bad faith attempts to take scenes and themes out of context, from the canon and tar them all with the brush of good and bad moral judgement with zero nuance.

i seem to have hit a few nerves by replying to that one blog. i was admittedly short with them and could have been nicer about the way i phrased things. but honestly, i dont really care anymore about being nice. people seem to be far ruder about and to people who care about the novel and constantly have talked over people from the community to misunderstand and vilify the author and the book. so, no i dont particularly care if i came off as rude.

from posts that were again made in the novel tag. someone seems to be questioning why i havent addressed the fact that the novel glorifies sexual violence and feeds into homophobic stereotypes, because apparently fans of a book thats just a little short of the size of the lord of the rings trilogy even without your so called dubious sexy bits, are the ones who cant read 🙄

there have been so many people who have addressed the sex scenes and your so called glorification of sexual violence, with great nuance and patience. but yall dont seem to like reading. so i’ll make it simple. ITS NOT FUCKING HOMOPHOBIC OR GLORIFYING SEXUAL VIOLENCE. TAKE A MEDIA STUDIES CLASS AND LEARN HOW TO DEVELOP SOME READING COMPREHENSION. for anyone who does care to know more, ill reblog the relevant posts right after.

ive been meaning to reread the novel anyway cause i dont think a novel of that size and density can be fully grasped with all its nuance(something cql only people wouldnt know if it hit them in the face) in the first read where you’re caught up in the plot. ‘cause the roughly 400,000 words are mainly a horror/mystery novel with a romance woven into it with a fairly deft hand.

tldr: im genuinely sorry that so many people seem to miss the very heavily bolded themes of political intrigue and the fickleness of morality that inform and strengthen the romance in the novel, instead choosing to focus on a paltry couple of chapters that arent even in the main book. im sorry that they can read something in such bad faith that a canonical gay couple getting married and living happily together in the goddam text is considered homophobic; while a product of heavy censorship created by an industry that short changes actual queer communities, whilst still baiting them for their money is considered groundbreaking gay content. if you think anyone is reading mdzs to “wank off” to gay people. you’ve either very clearly not read the book, or clearly dont know how actual erotica works.

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #saltier than the dead sea #trust and believe i have a lot more to say #but this will work as a placeholder while i gather my thoughts outside of this angry haze

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bereft-of-frogs · 5 years ago

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so I think what’s going on right now is not quite so much writer’s block and more...getting really into my own head re: MCU and the discourse around it. Like not quite the fandom discourse because that’s a whole other thing, I’ve dealt with that before. The shipping discourse, the crappy character analysis, dark fic moralizing, villain police, that’s all like...spite as writing fuel. That shit sustains me.

This I feel like is...a little different.

it’s the:

- ‘please god watch another movie’ posts (making me feel like I have to ‘prove’ that I watch significantly highbrow movies)

- ‘this is all military propaganda and you are now complacent in the face of war’ posts

- it’s all the ‘these aren’t real movies’ and the ‘y’all dumbasses will really stan anything’ style, [insert anything to do with clowns] posts

- oh, I saw this one on twitter it was a ‘think of the children’ style hand wringing about how the Spiderman movies are turning kids off of working class solidarity (like, critique that part of the story, yes I actually agree, but to then take it to the ‘but the children tho’ level as if blockbuster movies are the only thing instructing children on morality)

- even all the pushback that I agree with on these posts just makes me feel tired

And the fact that because the last couple movies were so big, it’s now coming from people outside of the fandom. From people I know in real life and follow on my academic Twitter. I think that’s what really getting in my head. When I go to try and write it’s like...I can’t help think about all these takes. And it’s just getting me a......bit stuck in my own head.

Some of the pressure got redirected towards Star Wars the last couple weeks which is good but I feel like I’m just....trying to wait until things die down and I can feel more like I’m in my own little fandom cave again. I am essentially fandom gremlin who doesn’t like being exposed to sunlight. Too many people are looking at me. (Even though, yes, I know, no they’re actually not, they’re speaking in general terms but I still feel weirdly under a spotlight because I take things way too personally and internalize criticisms too much and I know and I’m working on it.)

Yeah, so I’m hoping things die down a little bit soon and I can go back to just secretly and quietly writing in my fandom cave.

I’m pairing this with a to-do list for today and tomorrow so that people don’t think I’m planning to quit or something. Because I’m not, I’m really trying to just wait this storm out. So today:

- work until 5

- I need to buy coffee after work and since I already have to stop I’m also going to pick up a frozen pizza because pizza is a great Friday night dinner! We had it every Friday when I was growing up. (And also buying beer because now I’m an adult)

- tonight is going to be no-pressure writing, just the short(er), quasi-plotless, ‘fun’ stuff because that’s what Friday nights are for! Pizza and beer and plotless whump!

- tomorrow AM I turn into a one-woman biohazard cleanup crew to deal with the post-sickness disaster that is my apartment (I also feel less creative when my habitat is disorganized)

- the less-fun, more-work writing: the first of my Marvel Trumps Hate fills (which...is actually at the stage of being pretty fun still, less work), the nine in the tree conclusion, and the ‘dead reign there alone’ conclusion (that last one should be fun, but currently involves reworking a disused fic idea so it’s a bit more challenging)

Aside from concrete to-do list things, I’m also going to try and 1) quit my Twitter addiction because it’s not healthy and I know it’s not healthy but I can’t seem to stop lurking, 2) be more liberal with the ‘block post’ button, and 3) return to doing a few things that I haven’t been doing lately that always made me feel creative (mostly listening to a couple podcasts I’d neglected, reading over coffee rather than scrolling, etc) and hope that helps a bit!

Sorry this was long/a lot of personal information/griping, but that’s what’s been going on lately! Happy Friday everyone!

#lists lists lists #unnecessary dramatics #alcohol cw #i'm really not quitting but there have been times in the last few weeks where i have just had this kneejerk 'ack i quit' feeling #it's 100% just a momentary emotional reaction and always passes quickly but i can't deny that the Discourse points noted above have been #stressing me out a bit #it's so temporary though it's really only been since november i'm sure it will be fine

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prodigaisons · 5 years ago

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I get what you're saying - I think some people are coming from a place of hurt, how gamer and anime fandoms can be like, its even a trope for the gay coded character to be "the Komaeda", viewed as cursed and cringe in fandom. Its hard to fine representation that can just be. Do you ever wish you could avoid discourse, and have characters who were gay coded but beloved instead of made into "cursed" memes or who get fucky content? My view of Shuake is more positive than most but I know fandom :|

I mean I get it but like here’s the thing: blaming lgbt people for being drawn to these characters isn’t productive or helpful.

if you personally just prefer fluffy, romcom type stuff that’s fine but. pressuring other lgbt people who don’t for happening to enjoy smth with angst content just...... isn’t helpful and makes us all forget the real problem: cishet people making this content.

I used to be into dangan ronpa for legit like 5 years. I have a LOT to say on kodakas handling of lgbt characters. but there’s one thing that I and a lot of others always wanted to stress: it’s not the fault of lgbt people who like antags that a cishet man only writes us as antags.

on top of that, I firmly disagree that even a majority of akeshu fans only want angst. personally, I enjoy angst that is productive and results in a happy ending. that’s just what I enjoy. I don’t necessarily like cishets writing it but like..... lol I’m 21 and in college I have the ability to enjoy smth and critique it at the same time. I literally want to go into video game analysis and discourse (actual academic discourse not. tumlr discourse lol) as like, my job.

my problem is the idea that people enjoying seeing a portrayal of mental illness that isn’t just sad or “clean” = enjoying angst or toxic masculinity. goro is portrayed as angry and bitter and has a violent streak that makes kasumire visibly nervous. and! and this is defended as okay! no one shames him or treats him badly for this! joker openly WANTS this! joker isn’t being treated badly by goro at all either, they’re able to go to the jazz bar and still have their usual philosophical discussions that they enjoy

which is another implication I dislike- goro and akira enjoying friendly competition with each other isn’t them being mean. they’re both competitive people and it’s something they bond over. it’s slightly different, but my sister and I are both highly competitive. one of her friends HATES playing board games with us together bc we get way too intense. for us, that’s just..... fun tho???

goro and akira aren’t mean or violent towards each other- theyre just competitive people. it’s important to their characters that they both enjoy friendly competition.

and like, legit joker is just kind of a dick. this is in vanilla too. he cares about his friends but he also is an arsene lupin expy and thus just Has to be obnoxious

#joker.txt #p5r spoilers

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thephantomporg84 · 5 years ago

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Honestly [redacted] doesn't have bad points when it comes to the dmc games. But my word the way she words things and picks inappropriate places to talk about them just makes it impossible to discuss with her. Like, yeah, Vergil did bad shit, thatd be a valid point to discuss for a character, but please don't do it on an artist's work. And don't be so unhappy and cruel should someone disagree with you. I think a civil, critical analysis with her could be interesting but itd be impossible rn :Y

I mean they’re not perfect games, sure. Nothing is perfect and no media is above critiquing — anyone that thinks otherwise is just being foolish. There’s plenty of stuff I’ve openly said I don’t like about the games and/or fandom, but I don’t think for a second those opinions are the gospel or some shit.

Her bullshit on people’s works is gross, totally, but really and truly no one should be picking fights and arguing with her on them either. People don’t seem to get that you can, in fact, pop in if an artist/content creator looks like they’re getting blindsided, tell them she’s a troll and/or to search her username if they want more evidence, and avoid a whole mile long post full of responses that she’s not ever gonna read in the first place lmao. People are gonna get upset when they start getting blocked by artists too, but I don’t blame the artists one bit.

Anyway. As for [REDACTED] — she doesn’t understand a few key points about discussion/debate and, unless she does, she’s always gonna be real lonely — both in the fandom and in general:

Subjective opinion is not, and never, ever will be, objective fact — in this case, you can hate whatever story element / storytelling device you want, but that does not automatically make it bad.

There is inherent value in flashy, shallow, and even tacky media — something that entertains and/or makes someone happy can mean a lot and go way beyond monetary value or whatever it could bring to the medium. Not everything has to be this sweeping, epic masterwork full of heavy themes that have to be dissected to be entertaining and/or ‘valid’. DMC and JoJo’s wouldn’t have sold 2 million+ in a month and 100 million copies worldwide, respectively, if that were the case. I wouldn’t have read JJBA from cover to cover but skimmed cliff notes for every piece of classical literature I’ve ever been assigned to read throughout high school and college if that were the case. My roommate wouldn’t adore the Transformers movies because they’re what he and one of his (now deceased) close friends always went to see. That kind of thing.

Disagreement with your opinion is not an attack on your character or you, personally. She has said multiple times she hates getting ignored by people and family members, and she’s let a rejection of her opinion equate to being ignored/unappreciated. It’s why she’s always screeching about some form of mistreatment every time someone even politely disagrees with her or ignores her.

Disagreement also doesn’t mean the other person is the embodiment of all the things you hate. She seems to try really hard to associate people liking something she doesn’t with people having political/other opinions she doesn’t like because she wants to paint them as “completely evil” and that’s... not how things work.

Real talk tho, homegirl needs some serious, serious professional help before you could ever have a civil discussion with her.

#anonymous #replies #porg drama #thephantomporg84 #derelict-stranger #derelict stranger #discourse tag #discourse

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kururu666 · 2 years ago

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fr tho does anyone have any like. good criticism of people like nexpo or cadaber? even if you personally have critiques id still like to hear. i dont see a lot of good solid critical analysis of their stuff bc well. these people kinda have fandoms and fandoms are more likely to engage with that content as entertainment than works worthy of criitcal reading

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knightofbalance-13 · 8 years ago

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I don’t hate Jaune...I just treat everything he does as wrong by default and get angry at him because of it.

http://jaynefray.tumblr.com/post/155917318751/ok-so-this-is-my-problem-with-this-guy

No, you do hate Jaune. You just don’t want to be called out on it.

Under read more. Spoilers: It contains some of my anger over cerain blond teenage character of RWBY. I don’t mean it as hate, I’m just tried of seeing this kind of stuff over and over again and I finally need to vent.

And yet as we go on, we’ll see that you have chosen to intreupt things in the most negative light possible with Jaune. You will choose to see everything he does or everything around him as bad to the point of direct contradiction of the show and hypocrisy.

The thing that pisses me off the most about Jaune’s manpain over Pyrrha is that it seems to be post-production mistake fixing. They forgot to develop this romance from Jaune’s perspective, having him ignore Pyrrha most of the time and share like three moments or so when he appreciates or takes interest in her in any way shape or form, while for the rest of the time he chases another.

Who told you Jaune was mourning her death because it was a romantic relationship? Are you saying that Jaune can’t be sad over his close friend and mentor? Are you saying that it can’t just be friendship with him? because there is nothing to tell me that Jaune loved Pyrrha that way, only that Pyrrha loved him. Jaune never said or showed romantic love towards her at all and the show doesn’t treat it as a two way romantic relationship.

Right off the bat your first argument (Which, by the way, is fucking insulting to say that a man can’t be sad without it being an insult. As much as I bet you call out toxic masculinity, this is reinforcing the idea that men cannot express emotion) is built off of misinformation and fandom assumption. Right off the bat, you just showed you aren’t worth your weight in critique and analysis. And that’s your only option. You said this wasn’t hate so that implies you believe this to be rational and thus this is an analysis of why you factually are angry at Jaune. If not then it IS hate and you are lying in the beginning. Those are your only options.

Like really, one moment is where he says sorry on that roof, the other is during the dance tho idk if I should count it as this because the way he framed this ‘interest’ was inconsiderate but I’ll let it slide for a while

How? How is his interest in Pyrrha, his mentor and best friend, inconsiderate? how is trying to understand her inconsiderate? It’s not and that’s a crook of shit you are using to justify your irrational hate. You let it slide because it does not exist and if you tried that, the fanbase would call you out on your shit, as I am.

Then we have long long nothing and finally, first-in my opinion- genuine interest in what and how Pyrrha feels ep.8 of vol3 so 4 or so episodes before she dies, and in-universe timeline on the very day she dies. Like really, it took the dude to go and start noticing and showing interest in HOW HIS PARTNER feels this long?

yes, because some people are like this. Some people are dense to the feelings of otehrs. Some people cannot read the signs, especially since Pyrrha only let on ONCE about her true feelings (BTW, she wasn’t even being direct that time so it’s on her for not being direct with a dense guy), everything else would be expected of a partner. Funny how two seconds of thought clears this up

And don’t give me any ‘he had to do it earlier’ because apart from that dance scene we don’t get it on screen so as far as we know episode 8 is the first time, or at least first time since the dance. And yet, despite the fact he ignored her, and showed no consideration or no interest in her and her feelings he somehow gets to have most development?

What development are you talking about? If it’s in the relationship then you directly said above he WASN’T developed.If it’s as a friend then what do you call putting on a dress to make her feel better and trying to comfort her when she is obviously troubled? And if it’s character development: That has nothing to do with what is going on and spoiler: Weiss gets that title not Jaune. Nice try.

he gets her circlet? I understand the notion of ‘you don’t know what you have’ I really do, but with all of the above? It really doesn’t seem like enough to warrant such actions. Especially the circlet. How realising he lost a chance and was an idiot for not seeing what was in front of him, how does that entitle him to her possessions?

Seriously? This argument? You are seriously trying to argue over a fucking piece of jewelry that her parents probably own twenty of hers back at home with all the baby pictures and other belongings whereas he just gets one thing which he uses to honor her memory? I’m starting to think you hate the show in general for allowing Jaune to exist seeing as you are trying to tear down anything good in the show that involves him.

? How does make him more worthy than her parents/mother? He knew this girl for like…few months and for most of this time he couldn’t be bothered to get to know her, care about her feelings or appreciate her. And somehow just because he regrets he didn’t get to know her and make that effort, he is entitled to merge her circlet with her remains into his armour? Does regret over not building or contributing to a bond makes up for that bond or something? I wouldn’t take such an issue with it if he at least asked her mother or waited until they meet her family. It still would have been forced, but he wouldn’t come off as entitled, inconsiderate jerk

Maybe because he was her first real friend? Maybe because she could only make meaningful connections because Jaune helped her? because he helped her though her sadness? maybe because he was willing to help her defeat Cinder and only didn’t because he knew he was basically dead weight? Forgot all about this stuff huh? Convenient for your argument huh?

And never contributed to anything? What do you call putting on a dress to make her feel better? What do you call sitting by her side to comfort her? WHat do you call trying to give her advice? What do you call standing guard while she was about get Amber’s power? Just because you have a hate boner for the guy doesn’t mean you get to twist the facts.

And yes, you would have said this anyway. It’s a fucking lose lose situation. Either he doesn’t do it and he’s an inconsiderate jerk or he does and he’s a Mary Sue and either way, you say bullshit. I know this for a fact because even as your complaints stop applying to him, you twist the facts to MAKE them apply. You hate the guy but you want your hate to be accepted even as you lie and cheat. Well too fucking bad: World doesn’t work that way.

Like if he really, really, really, really, really, really HAS to have Pyrrha’s circlet then at least have her mother say she cannot keep it because it’s too painful and that Pyrrha would have wanted him to have it. Having that wouldn’t have made it good but at least it would be just annoying and tried instead of rage inducing.

Translation: “If the show wastes it’s limited time and budget to make this completely unnecessary scene for me and ten other people which can happen in a latter scene, I’ll say I won’t do this but will because I have shown that I will lie before and why wouldn’t I do it here?”

That’s what all that tells me form your language and actions here. And I call you out on it.

And another thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that Pyrrha’s death in vol3 was empowering, she fought well and valiant, she did her best and pulled all the stops, she did it for her friends and whole the world. She died on her own rules, never yeilding to the dark side. It was heroic and tragic and most of all POWERFUL it was sad but somewhat positive and inspiring message. It had some meaning. It wasn’t death for shock value. But volume 4 never mentions that

Um, you don’t have to directly mention it. The empowering part is shown by Cinder being humiliated and shunned, thus causing what she wanted to turn on her as if by fate. The heroic and inspirational part comes from her influence over Jaune and Ruby and how her death has changed them both drastically, driving them both to improve and keep going. It’s called subtlty.

No, when it’s mentioned it is to show how sad JAUNE IS, to show how UPSET AND ANGRY he is. Like with those recordings, where she tells him he’s great and wonderful an whatnot and he slices the air with his sword in anger. We have it refferenced after Shinon’s fall when again it is to bring out and hilight Jaune’s pain because Shinon.

Fucking liar. The recording was for RUBY’S development you ass. Jaune has mourned Pyrrha onscreen by himself for 8 seconds I counted. When teh focus of the sadness isn’t on Ruby, I counted. It happened once for eight seconds you liar. The scene was meant to convey how close they are and how sad Ruby is over all the sadness around her, Jaune was NEVER the focus you ass. This is so fucking obvious that anyone who thinks critically on it will see it so you have NO excuse.

Jaune says “I am tried of losing everything” everything that is mainly Pyrrha

And Beacon. And his old life. And his chance to be a true huntsman. And his chance to do for Pyrrha what she did for him.

Then we have it mentioned when Qrow talks to them, and again Pyrrha’s death is not there to show example of heroism and taking things into your own hands and choosing how you die. No, once again her death is there for Jaune to get angry and upset

No it was tos how that Qrow and Ozpin weren’t the great heroes they act like, that they did shit wrong too. Jaune wasn’t angry that Pyrrha was dead, he was angry because they caused her to die. he was angry because they caused it. Is he right? No but the narrative doesn’t treat him that way seeing as Jaune is framed like he’s right but overreacting and being overly hostile. The only one making Pyrrha’s death all about Jaune is you: You are the one at fault here, not Jaune or the writers.

And heck he even manged to rid Pyrrha of her own free will and of the whole by-her-own-rules thing, because he access Qrow of FORCING HER INTO IT

Pyrrha was told she was the only one who could stop a plot against the world. For a selfless person, that is the equivalent to putting a gun to their head. Qrow even acts like it was a bad thing you idiot. The story and tone literally contradict what you are saying: your own basis defeats your argument.

It also shows a lot about how Jaune views Pyrrha. He doesn’t see a strong young woman who is brave and self-sacrifcing and makes her own decisions. He sees her as this…idk object? that doesn’t have it’s own free will and is just moved around by others

Exactly. She was self sacrificing. It is in her nature. SO what otehr choice woulod Pyrrha see in that situation besides helping the greater good? That is literally tantimount to taking advantage of someone. Do you think it’s impossibe to do that? If you do then you’re obviously too immature to talk about such things.

And yet you blame Jaune and says that he sees her as an object? The one guy who DIDN’T see her as a glorified object but as a person? Considering you push Pyrrha around and twist a lot of shit about her for your own needs, you treat her as an object more than Jaune: A tool to be used to attack and harm a fictional character than an entity of her own.

Ok, maybe I’m taking it too far but this is how it at times looks to me. And this is saddening to me, it is saddening that I see, or at least it seems so that Pyrrha’s death is being reduced to manpain

No, it’s god damn enraging that you see it that way because NOTHING about the show even remotely suggests that unless you look at things through three kalediscopes taped together. It’s enraging that you take this as fact when all forms of logic say otherwise, when facts say otherwise. Because it shows how little you actually care about the character and show unless it’s exactly as you envision it and want it to be. It enrages the fuck out of me.

And this brings me back to her relationship with Jaune and generally relationships girls have with Jaune because it kind of follows similar patterns. When she was alive Pyrrha was kind of like Superhero’s Grifriend. Sure she needn’t saving all the time but she was there to be his pillar of strength, to tell him he’s doing good ect. and now after her death volume 4 is doing the same things.

Or maybe it’s the revolutionary idea that she’s his mentor and she’s trying to teach him to have self confidence because those kinds of thoughts are not only unhealthy and damaging mentally but unsafe LITERALLY with the Grimm around. Did that never occur to? because it occurred to 90% of the fandom.

Then we have Weiss, whose relation to Jaune was to give him angst over rejection and unrequited love. @sssn-neptune-vasilias pointed out, so very, very well that she was ‘another thing that Jaune wanted’ instead of a person

Ah yes the terrorist who thinks people should be harassed and bullied unless they think like him and act like him. Such a creditable source.

Not like the show which went to great lengths to show that Jaune wanted to date for WHO she is, not WHAT she is.( https://youtu.be/nur1pCHD4hU?t=9m6s / https://youtu.be/i7wkw3yEbvQ?t=3m32s ) Once again, the show outright contradicts you so what crediblity do you have. What reason should we not mark you as a hater and treat you as such, despite your protests.

and now it seems that even Ruby, the protagonist of the show, is being reduced to a prop for Jaune Arc’s plot line. She slowly becomes another Comforter like Pyrrha was, another girl who is there to be his pillar of strength while he has angst while she isn’t allowed to have her own feelings and emotional trauma. She doesn’t get to mourn Pyrrha or ponder over her death Jaune with concern and sadness in her eyes because ‘oh, Poor Jaune’. When Shinon gets destroyed and Jaune has another angsty moment, Ruby who too should be distressed and who kinda is over the destruction and dead Huntsman, once again turns to comfort Jaune, and put her hand on his shoulder. Because his angst again is the most important thing we should focus on. Then we have the talk with Qrow and again Jaune’s feelings and Ruby doesn’t react much when the dude says ‘fat lot of help you are’(it’s not exaxct qoute but it’s basically what he says) because Jaune again has right to act this way Because He Found Out Truth About Pyrrha, so obviously we shouldn’t be too harsh.

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*COUNTDOWN TO NUCLEAR DETONATION*

SHUT UP! That is a blatant lie! Jaune only angst onscreen when it’s usable for RUBY. his line about losing people vocalizes RUBY’s sorrow, his sadness in the forest is used a way to make RUBY’S angst relatable, his srrow all builds to Episode 10 where he LITERALLY pushes his sadness aside and says that Ruby inspired him and his team, that she is the only reason any of them have gotten this far both emotionally and physically! He literally spots angsting to make RUBY look good!

Jaune is needed for Ruby because Ruby avoids bad things and denies the darkness of the world whereas Jaune accepts it and struggles to properly process and grieve for it. Just like how Ruby would defend her uncle and take everything he says as right even as it isn’t, so Jaune has to call him out. Just like Ruby would insist on keep going and pushing it out of her mind,Jaune processes it. Just as Ruby bottles up her feelings until they overwhlem her, Jaune talks about it gets her through it. JAUNE is teh supporter now, JAUNE is the comforter. And yet you refuse to accept that.

That just proves you hate Jaune: that you are so blinded by your hate for him that you literally take things as the exact opposite of what they are. You are a joke and a cheap, pathetic one at that, one i laugh at with a sense of pointed disdain and without an ounce of respect or given dignity.

And then we have parting with Nora and Ren line. Again, despite the fact her uncle is seriously hurt Ruby’s priority as a character is to comfort worried Jaune. Again she is not allowed to have her own emotions and her worries, because Jaune’s are more important and as the only girl left she has to attend to them.

Okay, enough of this sexist bullshit: What about Weiss, who outright rejected him out a care for his feelings? What about Nora, who demans him? What about Yang and Blake who never interact with him? What about Glynda, who never sugercoated anything with him? I am at my paitence’s end with you, do not push me.

And Jaune, just like on that roof with Pyrrha and on that balcony, instead of being thankful or considerate tells her that ‘we don’t know that’, which makes it even more annoying because he again comes off as completely ungrateful; and someone who treats this kindness as either something due to him that he doesn’t have to appreciate.

Because Ruby is being childish and naive for thinking that way! That is who Ruby is! Did you get total ammesia about Ruby’s character throughout this whole thing? Because that is the only excuse.

And it annoys me. I DO NOT HATE JAUNE ARC. I really don’t. He is a good character, but THE WAY THEY WRITE HIM and the way THEY FOCUS ON HIM, the way HIS EMOTIONS ARE MOST IMPORTANT AND OVERRULE EVERYTHING ELSE is what makes me angry. Fine, give some development to the side-character, have them have emotions but please focus on other characters too ESPECIALLY MAIN CHARACTER.

And it pisses me off that you are so centered on hating Jaune and making up excuses to hate him, to justify your hate, that it demeans everyone else in the show to revolving around when that isn’t the case at all! You ignore character’s personality, development, context, actions, feelings and blatant FACTS to hate on him.

You say you are not a hater of Jaune but everything about this screams hater, an irrational one who will justify their hate no matter how much they must twist the show and characters because they have an irrational hatred of one character. Shut up and never talk about Jaune ever again: we have enough comedy in Rooster Teeth, we don’t need pathetic laughter too.

#rwde bullshit #rwby #jaune arc

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misterbitches · 4 years ago

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Im not intelligent at all. In the conventional sense. The ramblings of a girl who just has sooo much going in in her head it's constant. But im not a genius. Or that confusing.

It just sounds like I am bc fandoms have this issue where they can JUSTSO point out the issues in soletiing. They can pick and prod and go oh problematic! But then you go to name the problems and the difficulties within society like for ex: the idea of representation in general. Salivating over it. How fucking sad that is. How we are trained to accept it. So in a BL and also RACE in the bl genre they exploit viewers naivete both domestically and internationally. Ive seen tons of people liken being asian to being a person of color. However, in their predominantly homogenous society (or intentionally publically homogenous society), they are not "poc" (also name the of color; i dont use bipoc idc if u do but it's called being asian guys cos yall aint talkin about black ppl lmao)

They as humans seeing other humans who look like them everywhere, engage with the world differently than an american in asia or asians living outside of their home country (like bae doo nanwhen she worksnin the US is not the same as the bae doo nanworking on a korean program) I dont complain about it in everything i see bc ppl say it ALL THE TIME. but it is NOT the same. Being a person of color is very distinctly an american concept. This is all stuff people will get to know on their own if they choose to dig more.

I do my best to underline what my ugly little eyes process. How i figure things out as a black female american artist too! Im hard on shit cos i should be. I take it seriously. And even if i dont take it seriously bc THEY dont then thats their problem.

I know this is a complaint that I am not alone in. I know it's the internet. I just don't get how people can write really heavy analysis but they refuse to actually probe the underlying issues. Not everyone is me, or like my friends, but if there's way fewer people talking about this stuff it seems absolutely glaring when theres few people engaging in the way i do. It seems like im the glitch but I am thinking just as much just differently.

I really loved where your eyes linger but there was little deep class analysis. I remember few convos a bout it. I know a lot about korea (sigh being a black ex kpop fan lol mess) and i love the history but all ofnit matters! Korea's relation to labor!

People bringing up thai actors snd actresses leaving the industry and doing acting as something quick. As an artist~ who went to film school with insanely wealthy ppl and isnin tons of debt you have to understand how shitty that is. People have monetary access and they just fucking do whatever just because they want to. Meanwhile you have young people being coerced into this bullshit mainstream life to LITERALY just make money bc they dont come from a rich background. The wealth gap in thailand is BAD, theres a dictatorship, they had a fucking coup. The governments like here do not respect their people. Their marginalized groups. Trans thai women, black thai ppl, poor thai ppl. And it LITERALLY CANNOT DO ANYTHING EFFECTIVELY IN CAPITALISM. No nothing can be perfect but if it's going into our eyeballs and we can view the worlld critically then why the fuck not!???

I dont say the things i see are wrong always. I reply when i think i need to. I try and engage with others but not to kuch avail. I just want to rb stuff and tdhink lajfhhdjwhjej.

But like yea theres a lot of just wrong or misguided stuff. A lot of the times it is just historical inaccuracy in framing or idk. A refusal to think outside the box. I dont care. Theres more to life than just sort of looking and not thinking especially for othrr artists.

Idk im sorry. I dont see how i can change how i view things. I really wish people would expand their palettes too and go deeper into other means of art from places! Things not in the mainstream! Theres a lot of good thai artists and a lot of them critical as fuck about their country as they should be. Authority, austerity, patriarchy, capital, racism etc like that is central to a power thats interested in growing gains and fiscal and social power. Theres rly radical or left leaning etc ppl out there in the world and these countries in these communities. So they exist. No people in these countries dont have NO clue whats going on. Cultural relativism is alsos something people should understand. I had a good talk with ppl on here a while ago about that. Talking about shit, critiquing, but being respectful to a group. Part of thay is realizing these groups CLEARLY know their own issues and all our cultures share the same goal. Guess what it is. It rhymes with acquiring wealth. Money means you hurt people. In the post, we talked about use of "wife" and "husband" which is a stupid joke that has been "explained" a billion times and yet the explanations still dont seem to answer or justify a minor problem (it's very funny to me that a language that doesnt have gendered pronouns is now very specific about two men. Hmmm wonder why. It is annoying.)

So im not the only person on the planet doing this. Or the few ppl ive seen that do. Im not new my thoughts arent new. Ive gotten to see another side to a culture i knew not much about and that means i can put the context of my beliefs and life and try and understand thheirs. For ex i learned from ITSAY because of a sign that said 'french food' that they were the only country to not be colonized back then. Do you know how integral that history is to their region? That was an interesting detail (i didnt finish itsay bc ihad a lot going on and i was rly upset that i would see hownrich they are and i hate that.)

Anyways thats my complaint. It used to feel like a sting of rejection. I left online for months in 2019, i started organizing more, joined a union, trying to do some panther work shit like that. I learned a lot in those months and it changed my life! But when I came back, I felt so isolated. It wasnt my true friends tho sometimes theyre ANNOYINGGGGG (love u) but it was me being like "if we are going to complain guys then lets put our money where our mouth is" lets be fucking serious about it then. No say it with your chest dude. It isnt difficult. Go with the fucking flow, talk about it, critique it, think. You can still fucking like itnor love it.

I am BLACK ok and i love rap. I am a black woman. I will continue to clown black men that cant seem to not clown themselves and listen. No i wont support monetarily: drake is a creep and i hate him but i bump that niggas song. Thats fucking LIFE. I got so sick of hiding myself and it became clear that it wasnt that i wasntthinking well or hard enough. They just didnt like that i said we need to commit class suicide and inspect out middle class sensibilities and middle class wealth hoarding (google it) if thats what we engaged with. Every part of you, antagonize it. I still have my privileges; class, skin color, even my father being a nigerian immigrant, me being cis, im not str8 but not a lesbian and those are differences.

Insecurities in general but some shallow thoughts (?) on discussion in "fandom" space. FYI, this will most likely stay the same. I tend to stay in my own bubble socially IE me and my friends are similar in our views. During this awful year while running my union's account, im surrounded by like minds. Me and my friends? We changed together. We grew up and saw what we didnt like and what we want. We do our best.And i CHOOSE my life to be that way bc it should be. There is no solution. I dont believe in solutions because the solution is to abolish capital or just divest. Abolishing capital and labor are a huge one and i will die before that happens (but so help me as long as im alive? Black women to FREEDOMMMM is my motto!) so making your own path in life is the best thing an artist can do IN MY OPINION.

However with technology and stuff this puts another layer onto things. Tech, social media, this shit....it THRIIIIIIIVESSSSSSS off of conflict and shallow readings of the world. We are literally primed for it. Engagement in bites. Impossible for me with my brain; i got used to it and i paid for it by limiting my scope. Not being encouraged to THINK AND READ before just speaking

(For ex i am in iww, i helped form a branch here. It is a radical union. Unionism is imprative to me-if ur interested u should read up on some. Look up peter cole! Google inthesetimes Ilwu. Gives you some understanding. Ive always been progressive and now i am....very left idk ic ant label myself. But even in my progrssiveness i had the gall to tell my white friend, whoa has her privileges but i had mine with our class disparity, that we dont need unions, i have WORKED retail. Ive done barista work for sonoing and i do gig work. So i wasnt out of touch. I had been stiffed even with a shoot i was working on by rich kids. So i had a frame of reference . But i didnt know what the FUCKa union was and why it is imperative. Then learning about anarcho syndicalism and all these other things. It changed my fucking life but two years earlier i was this idiot spouting shit like that making one of my best friends fucking upset. We DO AND CAN CHANGE. Think!!!!)

So were i a creator for tv id just constantly try and push the buttons if i need big money. Make them sell into me (thank you sonic youth!) theres Endless possibilities guys which means theres SO MUCH TK EXPLORE!!!! When i wanna have fun with it i just have fun. When i want to think i do. I dont understand why we are so dedicated to upholding things and doing mental gymnastics to end up in a space you dont need mental gymnastics for. What about these critiques makes you uncomfortable? Saying we're all part of the problem as spectators? Im sorry but we will always be. Thats LIFE. God fuck. Fuck me. I feel so fucking worthless and stupid sometimes. I know I am not. I know i am talented and intelligent. I know my friends and family. I know how to approach ppl. I know how to tell people if they are rich but want to be progressive whatsup. I choose how i live part of that is being ok to say what i want.

Ironically consrrvatives say this shit alot. But they arent ever alone bc their ideology is default. But yea it does feel shitty. It even feels shitty when ur in left circles but people STILL dont even wanna do that. These perspectives really arent ss many as they should be. I dont want to feel so alone with it. I know there are more. I just love art and the world so fucking much, endless possibility. Endless pain but endless good.

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