#mordvin

[songs-of-the-east]

Eryza Girl from Russia

[cheriedies]

Currently dying at this historical account of the Mordvinians (my grandma's indigenous group!)

[possessivesuffix]

I just remembered that, despite my username, I have not posted anything about possessive suffixes on here so far; to set right this oversight, here is a small sample of possessive suffix systems across the Uralic languages from reference literature I have around

Proto-Samic, from Sammallahti 1998, The Saami Languages: An Introduction

Proto-Samoyedic, from Mikola 2004, Studien zur Geschichte der samojedischen Sprachen

Late Proto-Permic, from Csúcs 2005, Die Rekonstruktion der permischen Grundsprache

Erzya and Moksha (in the nominative), from Bartens 1999, Mordvalaiskielten rakenne ja kehitys

[russianreader]

Erzyan Morot: Fiddle Tunes from Erzya Mordva Villages of Samara Province

Erzyan Morot: Fiddle Tunes from Erzya Mordva Villages of Samara Province

78th release from Antonovka Records Armas Otto Väisänen (1890-1969) was a famous Finnish ethnomusicologist and ethnographer. In 1914, when his native Finland was still part of the Russian Empire, he traveled around Samara province and recorded music of traditional fiddlers from local Erzya Mordva villages on wax cylinders. These recordings have been preserved in the Finnish archives. The album…

[aroundtheworldinstamps]

I know this might not look too flashy, but this might be my favourite stamp sheet. These Estonian stamps are a language tree of the Uralic languages.

Going anti-clockwise from the bottom middle stamp, we have:

The Samoyedic Languages: Nenets, Enets, Nganasan, Selkup, and Kamasin

The Ugric Languages: Hungarian, Khanty and Mansi

The Permic Languages: Komi and Udmurt

The Mari and Mordvinic (Erzya and Moksha) Languages

The Sami Languages (Nortern, Southern, Skolt, Inari, Lule, Ume, Pite, Ter and Kildin Sami)

The Baltic-Finnic Languages: Veps, Karelian, Izhorian, Livonian, Finnish, Estonian and Votic

Languages in brackets weren't mentioned in the stamp, but I thought I'd elaborate anyway

Edit: put Ingrian instead of Izhorian. Should've known better, sorry

[emaestoo]

HATSUNE MIKU NEVER DIE!!!

but I almost deleted this work for the trend where Miku is in traditional costume😔😔 Here is Miku × Mordvin traditional costume

[council-of-beetroot]

Miku Index

List I List II List III List IV Polish list

Albanian Miku

Algerian Miku

Angolan Miku

Argentina Paisana Miku

Aruban Miku

Axomiya Miku

Barbadian Miku

Bar / Bat Mitzvah Miku

Basque Miku

Blackfeet Miku

Betawi Miku

Bolivian Miku

Bośnian Miku

Bośnian Miku

Brunei Tribes Mikus

Burmese Miku

Cape Verdean Miku

Chechen Miku

Chilean Miku

Colombian Miku

Congolese Miku

Costa Rican Miku

Creek Miku

Croatian and Namibian Miku

Danish Miku

Estonian (Seto and Hiiuma) Mikus

Filipina Miku

Filipina Miku

Greek Miku

Guamian Miku

Guatemalan Miku

Haitian Miku

Hakka Miku

Hawaiian Miku

Hungarian Miku

Icelandic Miku

Jewish Highschool Miku

Judean Ancient Miku

Jordanian Miku

Jordanian Miku

Kazakh Miku

Kyrgyz Miku

Lebanese Miku

Lebanese Miku

Lithuanian Miku

Louisiana Creole Miku

Macedonian Miku

Mexican Miku

Mexican Día de independencia Miku

Mikus from a ton of different time periods

Mordvin Miku

Nigerien Miku

Norwegian Miku

Norwegian Miku

Polish Miku

Polish Miku

Polish Miku

Puerto Rican Miku

Qatari Miku

Réunionaise Miku

Romani Miku

Russian Miku

São Tomé and Príncipe Miku

Sinhalese Miku

Slovenian Miku

South Indian Miku

Sri Lankan Miku

Syrian Miku

Tatar Miku

Trinidadian Miku

Trinidadian Miku

Turkish Miku

Uganda (Baganda) Miku

US Virgin Islands

Uzbek Miku

Vatican Swiss Guard Miku

Venezuelan Miku

Vietnamese Miku

Zambian Miku

Zimbabwean Miku

[discolesbo]

Unknown ancient languages in the area of modern day Finland

Before the arrival of Western Uralic languages, which eventually developed into the Sámi languages and Finnish, there were already earlier languages being spoken in the area of modern day Finland. These ancient languages are completely unknown to us; after all, their cultures did not write. However, some names and words from those languages still live on as they were loaned into Sámi and Finnish and are still in use.

The prevalence of these loan words is higher in Sámi than in Finnish: as much as third of the words in Sámi languages are of unknown origin. The Sámi linguist Ante Aikio has been able to find at least two different ancient languages which the Sámi languages loaned words from in the area. The southern language he has dubbed Paleo-Lakelandic, the northern one Paleo-Laplandic. Before the arrival of Western Uralic languages, there had already been human settlements in Finland for nearly 10 millenia.

The first wave of Western Uralic languages came from the group whose Western Uralic dialect eventually developed into the Proto-Sámic language. As established, they loaned a lot of words from these ancient languages in Finland. The Finnish language has a more complicated origin, geographically. I'll write it with a smaller font as it is kind of off-topic but if you're interested:

The sister of Proto-Sámic is Proto-Baltic Finnic, which was born when Western Uralic dialects west of modern day Central Russia split into Proto-Finnic and Mordvinic lanugages. At this state, they loaned words from the ancient language of the Comb-Ceramic culture. Some of Proto-Finnics started living together with the Indo-European Baltic speakers, resulting in the birth of the Proto-Baltic Finnic language. This community was bilingual; possibly even for a thousand years. This explains the massive amount of Baltic loan words in Finnish. This community also loaned words from the earlier languages of the Baltic (before the arrival of Baltic or Proto-Baltic Finnic languages), mainly names of different kinds of fish.

After this, the Proto-Baltic Finnic language spread over the gulf to Southern Finland and encountered ancient languages of Finland it borrowed words from. Eventually, it encountered (and mixed with) Proto-Sámic. This mixing resulted in the birth of Finnish (or rather, its different dialects) as its separate language. Similarly, in the more northern areas, the Proto-Sámic language split into the different Sámi languages of modern day.

This process was slow. In the 17th century, there were still the last speakers of a Sámi language in Kainuu, for example. However, they mixed with and switched to Finnish centuries ago. And similarly, there were possibly still pre-Sámi languages spoken in the north of Fennoscandia during the Medieval times. They switched to speaking Sámi, much like Sámi-speakers in more southern areas switched to speaking Finnish.

Some words (note these are educated guesses):

The words "kontio" (bear) and "nuotio" (campfire) possibly came to Finnish through Sámi, originally from Old Lakelandic. Also through Sámi, from Old Laplandic, are the words "mursu" (walrus), "norppa" (ringed seal), and "kiiruna" (rock ptarmigan).

Some words that were loaned from ancient languages directly to Proto-Finnish without the Sámi middleman include "niemi" (small peninsula), "saari" (island), and "vuori" (mountain, hill).

Many place names in Finland have names that seem to originate from ancient languages as well, such as Saimaa, Inari and Päijänne.

The text is translated and condensed from Ennen suomea ja saamea Suomen alueella puhuttiin lukuisia kadonneita kieliä — kielitieteilijät ovat löytäneet niistä jäänteitä (Prior to Finnish and Sámi, multiple lost languages were spoken in the area of Finland — linguists have found relicts of them).

[unhonestlymirror]

Liet and Bela had a country? Ukraine and Finland had a country????

1)Well, not officially, but Lithuania and Belarus fight (not physically) for Užupis (Zarečča) a lot. XD. Užupis doesn't really consider itself anyone's relative, it's more an international Republic, but being in Lithuania is certainly better than anywhere, and I consider him Jewish Lithuanian because Užupis was born on the ruins of Jewish neighbourhoods. Nevertheless, both Belarus and Lithuania dote on him. And Poland. And France. There's a lot of drama. XD

2)Well, about that... It was a joke based on some real events. Ukrainians, unlike russians, don't like to bring Kyivan Rus history left and right because, unlike russians, we are aware of our cringe moments.

So, anyway:

This is the Kyivan Rus map (with incorrect names btw), not so far from its collapse. The luminous green and orange lines are drawn by me and indicate approximate(!) borders of people who tend to speak back then either Ukrainian or Belaruthian.

Before Kyivan Rus colonialism, there were mostly Finno-Ugric tribes, including Mordvins, Udmurts, Mockshans, etc. Many of them formed a Finnish state Biarmia, a pretty successful if Scandinavians traded with them and even mentioned them. Green and orange shaded areas are the areas of Church Slavonic (the government language) and Finnish languages merging, which led to such a thing as, e.g., Old Novgorod dialect appearing. It's still not russian yet, but it's not any Ruthenian language either.

We could have blamed Belarus in everything, but that's what russians do, and if we, as Ukraine with its Kyivan Rus management located in Kyiv in U-kraine (In-land), we should take responsibility for Ruthenian Aus-land, just as we take responsibility for Yuri "Long-handed" Dolgorukiy, who was called like that either because of his appearance or because of meddling in the struggle for the Kyiv throne and infighting in Ruthenia, while being in a distant peripheral. That's why embittered Kyivans poisoned him eventually and killed all the invaders.

You can read more here

It's important to note that calling Novgorod&Rostov colonies and russia the one historical state is the same as calling Baltic Prussija and Teutonic Prussia the same state. Russia appears somewhere in the 16th century, after Golden Horde merging with Novgorod&Rostov etc. principalities. That's why a lot of "blonde-blue-eyed" russians have a mentality characteristic of Asian countries: e.g., a woman is a non-human, a baby making tool to them, no democracy, strong subordination of younger to older, of "cogs" to "higher-ups", habit of boot-licking of the higher-ups and the habit of humiliating and mocking those who are weaker. In more than half of the cases, you will encounter this kind of social behaviour in most of Asian countries. Not gonna lie, you can meet such behaviour in any country, but for russia, it's such a commonplace as for Ukrainians to scold the government, it's something they actually love to do. What is popular in russia is not really popular in Ukraine and Belarus. You would probably understand it better if you've read the russian fanfiction website for years, but I feel too sorry for you, so I don't want you to do that. Russia is the true heir of Golden Horde, and the fact that people can't distinguish a 16th-century russian clothes from Golden Horde clothes only proves my point. Which is ironic, because russians are responsible for destroying the Mongolian culture as well.

Ruthenia didn't give birth to russia, but it gave birth to Novgorod-Rostov Principalities. Nevertheless, Ukrainians tend to quote Taras Bulba when talking about russia: "Я тебе породив, я тебе й вб'ю" which means "It was me who gave birth to you, and it will be me who will kill you." Finland has, in principle, the same position.

P.S. The fact that both Kyivan Rus and Scandinavian chronicles don't really mention Baltics probably means the Baltics were already quite conscious in terms of their national identity.

[deshima]

With my tunics done, it was time to go back to my boyfriend's costume since he wants to wear it at Castlefest in two weeks. The collar is now done and I started working on the neck facing. Instead of just picking a pattern from Pinterest as I did for the previous ones I found a very old ethnographic book on Archive.org about the clothes of the Erzya and Moksha ( collectively called the Mordvins back then) with some really nice examples of pattern darning. The neck facing is a simplified version of one of them

[anotherchariotpulledbycats]

Fantasy setting feeling stale? Here's some cultures you can rip off take inspiration from!

-Finno-Uralic cultures (Finland, Estonian, Mordvin, etc.)

-Southeast Asian cultures like the Vietnamese, Burmese, Khmers, Malays, Javanese...

-I'm actually surprised that there aren't more people trying to make fantasy cultures based off of Turko-Mongolic peoples.

-You know there's more than one culture living in Africa, right?

-Seriously, there are hundreds of them. It's the second largest continent on the planet.

-You're telling me you can distinguish Mediterranean, Central European, and Eastern European styles of dress and architecture, all of which are situated within the same continuum of temperate forest climate, and you can't find three African cultures to choose from?

-I'll give you several: Amazigh, Amharic, Oromo, Bambara, Fula, Somali, Soninke, Swahili, Zulu, Kongo...

[esoanem]

via @bijoumikhawal

In lots of these languages this word exists alongside words roughly corresponding to "person-eater" (wiktionary makes it look like these are in some cases actually more common than forms related to cannibal), and as seen here, that's also the only word listed in Icelandic

In older languages Greek and Latin both have anthrōpophagos (Greek for "person-eater"), and Old English apparently had selfǣta "self-eater" instead

The Turkish form here is apparently from an obsolete name used by British and French explorers for the Azande of Central Africa who were reputed to be cannibals, so follows a similar pattern to the word "cannibal" itself

Looking through wiktionary's translations into other languages it looks like "person-eater" is the main word worldwide. Other than words from cannibal, the only words with etymologies given that didn't mean person-eater were the Turkish above (which is parallel to cannibal), Arabic ghūl, and Bengali rakkhoś both of which primarily refer to a type of mythological monster, and are only secondarily applied to humans to mean cannibals

I suspect the reason "cannibal" spread so wildly across Europe is that before colonialism, cannibalism had been seen as something individuals (and occasionally families or besieged cities) did, not something that was cultural for an entire society (there are ancient accounts of cannibal societies, such as the androphagi "man-eaters" reported to live in modern-day Ukraine, possibly a translation of a Scythian description which gave rise to the exonym Mordvin used for Moksha-Erzya peoples), but this was long gone from collective consciousness

With the rise of colonialism tales of entire cannibal tribes returned, but this likely seemed distinct enough to warrant a new word for members of cultures where cannibalism was the norm

Eventually cannibal societies largely came to eclipse individual cannibals entirely, and so the old words fell out of use, and the word "cannibal" came to be used for both

That's my suggestion

The fact that in the 19th century we see "cannibal" used largely just to mean "member of a primitive savage tribe" (with the consumption of human flesh seeming a secondary stereotype of such societies) would seem to support this

The word for “Cannibal” in European languages.

by geography_addicted_

[eground01]

Подготовка к сдаче экзамена 1С:Специалист-консультант "Управление Нашей Фирмой" - Мордвин (2024)

Подготовка к сдаче экзамена 1С:Специалист-консультант "Управление Нашей Фирмой"

Сергей Мордвин - Учебный центр №1

Цель курса – обеспечить быструю и успешную подготовку специалистов к сдаче экзамена 1С:Специалист-консультант по внедрению прикладного решения «1С:Управление нашей фирмой». А также подготовить специалистов к оказанию услуг по автоматизации управленческого учета с испол��зованием программы «1С:Управление нашей фирмой 8» в компаниях малого бизнеса...

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[cunctatormax]

a Magyar

nyelv az uráli nyelvcsalád tagja, azon belül a finnugor nyelvek közé tartozó ugor nyelvek egyike. Legközelebbi rokonai a manysi és a hanti nyelv, majd utánuk az udmurt, a komi, a mari és a mordvin nyelvek.

[yerpenachams]

Eurasian Settings

Sami/Samoyedic (Arctic Circle Uralic)

Mari/Mordvin/Permic/Mansi/Khanty (Taiga/Steppe Uralic)

Yeniseian

[thenuclearmallard]

Mordvin traditional song