#modern 20something

[llycaons]

sooooo many fanfics are like 'wwx and lwj are sexy coworkers/strangers/acquaintances/customer and barista and then they meet and have amazing sex immediately' etc. etc. because that is the nature of fanfic but I have no idea why these random boring meet and get-together/fuck plots are so popular. well I guess I understand the appeal, but it's baffling that THIS is the route authors take when wx have so many other neat things going on. they have such a long and rich history! they call each other zhiji! they've been through decades of character development because of and with each other! writing them as a businessman and a tech ceo who happen to meet and then immediately have sex is THAT rewarding for people? no respect for the buildup I swear. I'm not saying they wouldn't sleep together as soon as they get together, I'm just saying there needs be some kind of (preferably fairly lengthy but at least close) relationship between them in the first place for sleeping together to make any sense just because of who they are as people, and also to not just sqander canon

[weepylucifer]

This happens and, thinking in hindsight that it was a bad idea to expose himself so much (even if no one believed him), the next time he finds himself in that situation, Mazov tries to blend in and pretend he is Steban. Results are... mixed

Oh yeah, that other post does remind me: if Steban drinks, does the ghost get drunk too? Or is Mazov an integrated sober buddy who has to take over and make sure the both of them get home safe

[wisteriagoesvroom]

when you watch lando's old footage back with his different teammates you can see his chemistry is so different with each and every one of him. you can see the observant and maybe nervous first year f1 racer that he was around carlos. the fire-meets-fire vibe that they brought, all the overflowing energy of being early 20somethings.

then you get the daniel era where it's honey and butter. both of them warm and charming and lando still learning from the other. but also lando also coming into his own as a racer and realising that he's not an imposter - he's on the level, if not better at that point, than the person who raced for red bull and has 8 GPs under his belt. even if that same racer seems a shadow of his former self at mclaren.

then you get the 2022 merry go round, and oscar. might as well be night and day when they first meet.

oscar, who keeps to himself, puts his head down and works. oscar, watchful and careful after the silly business with alpine. who probably knows he's coming into a buzzy environment with big personalities and huge expectations too - because who is this kid who had the audacity to basically flip off alpine? and via social media of all things (how very modern for an old-fashioned sport). how is this kid gonna make his mark on such a storied team, where the last win is almost now as old as him? what is he going to do with all that potential, right?

we love the machine, because we love watching the potential of a bright young thing fighting their way out of its jaws. lando was in there too, not so long ago, and the poison from that bite might still seep.

nobody knows what to expect. but lando gets to be the elder in the duo for the first time. lando's also going through a process in 2022-23 where he also seems to be entering a new phase of his life and realising some stuff about himself as a person too and what his priorities are. we'll never truly know what that process is (nor should we), but i think on this side of 2024 you can already see how he's handling himself out of it.

and we saw it maybe, in a bit of a smirk at oscar's first day for the car launch and oscar being late. a bit of wonder at oscar, who when suited up seems physically larger than what he remembers.

but then! oscar puts in the work. good chatter surrounds newbie and his working style, and oscar demonstrates maturity. he shows what a contender he is. that he's got his own approach, and he's ready, and – once the car comes – he starts backing that up with good results.

lando is competitive as hell on his own terms. but seeing a twenty one year old from the Reserve bench come in under er, fraught circumstances, then smashing out result after result from Suzuka onwards - surely that puts some fire under your ass in a big way. and! lando is someone who, i think despite his bad luck and lack of a win yet, is incredibly driven and has it in him to be a proper WDC contender. he has that quality. if his teammate is pushing him he's just going to push himself harder.

which culminates, interestingly, in soundbites we're getting recently. like the peter crouch interview, where lando says he's stopped DJ-ing because he's prioritising racing. not an easy decision to make i'm sure, and maybe one that would've happened without oscar's presence at mclaren anyway– but just one signal of where his headspace is probably at now and into '24. lando is also much more reserved about the soundbites he's giving lately (like "i'm not making any race or win predictions anymore and i'm taking things as they are because predictions haven't come true for me in the past, there's too much expectation on myself" etc etc.).

you might even describe it as... maturity.

and guess who has been described as incredibly composed and mature by the mclaren team?

exactly.

[gizkasparadise]

Hi, top 5 Kdramas please!

it was so hard to pick only 5 ;; but not in any particular order since they all have vastly different #vibes:

chicago typewriter. three people--a famous novelist, a ghost writer, and an errand girl--cross paths in modern-day Seoul and in different ways try to help the novelist complete his latest story -- a novel about freedom fighters during the japanese occupation of korea in the 1930s. however, as the story continues, and the trio get more and more involved with one another, it turns out the story isn't just a story, but the retelling of their past lives where they were lovers, comrades, and maybe even enemies. a rare kdrama where the ending is stronger than the beginning, this is a slow burn that takes its time to get going but once it does it's so SO good. drama, comedy, romance, everything!

welcome to waikiki. three losers (a prospective director, an aspiring actor, and a wannabe screenwriter) live in and run a sharehouse. one day, they wake up to find a baby in one of the rooms, and chaos ensues. so fucking funny, i love the ships, and the cast is well balanced between the three male leads and the three female leads. A+++

mystic pop-up bar. kang bae, a 20something who works in customer service, has a curse where whenever anyone touches him, they are compelled to tell him their deepest secrets. one night, he crosses paths with weol ju, a shaman who is cursed to an immortal/unending existence until she resolves the grudges of 10,000 humans because of a grave sin she committed in her mortal life. with her is gwi, a retired ghost cop who now helps her run a pop-up bar where they enter dreams and try to resolve weol ju's debt. kang bae joins them when weol ju offers him a bargain: use his powers to help her resolve the grudges, and once 10k are up, she'll remove his powers. you think this show is run of the mill case of the week, but it all builds together so beautifully and it's such a great found family dynamic. i love this ooone

bridal mask/gaksital. set in 1930s korea during the japanese occupation. kang to is a ratbastard -- a korean who works for the japanese as a police officer and turns in his countrymen. he becomes obsessed with hunting down BRIDAL MASK. a zorro-esque freedom fighter with a hidden identity. to get to him, he tries to capture mok dan, the daughter of a freedom fighter general and bridal mask's suspected lover. the first few eps get you thinking it's going to be a cheesey action show, but it's a fantastic tragedy with so many nuanced character arcs.

extraordinary you. dan oh is a rich high schooler at an elite academy, who has a crush on her aloof and disdainful fiance, baek kyung, and a tragic but non-descript heart condition. one day, she starts realizing parts of her memory are gone, and there's the distant sound of someone turning the page -- turns out she's a character in a romance manga, but not even the heroine-- just a side character. in order to change her fate, she enlists the help of 13 -- a nameless background character. so cute, quirky, and highly HIGHLY addicting. loving meta parody of high school shoujo stories like Boys Over Flowers.

bonus, because they were REALLY close to top 5: beyond evil (serial murder? in a small village? more homoerotic than you'd think.), arthdal chronicles (bronze age-esque fantasy epic with more ambiguous leads than you can shake a stick at), and happiness (when you have to stop the zombie apocalypse but there's only one bed)

[souvlakicocaine]

why are modern 20somethings so lame it’s so hard 2 find ppl my age that party and a) stay out past 1 am b) won’t snapchat their stupid jakey the entire night c) capital c Club not just hang out at a shitty pub smoking weed

[echofromtheabyss]

Sex is written differently now. I found myself digging into 60s-80s stuff again to get the vibe right for my writing, and... whoa.

Much of 70s/80s stuff is very much for people who are experienced and or who are getting their sex education elsewhere. Even when it's written for 20 year olds. Modern work is expected to do the load-bearing component of sex education and appropriate relational modeling in ways that older work didn't. There were whole other genres of work for that. This is even expected of stuff that 30 year olds are going to read, and it will be 30 year olds who complain about it the most, especially if they're lonely (like a lot of modern 30 year olds).

And in general I think that modern work is expected to do the heavy lifting for "this is an accurate and socially appropriate picture of reality" in ways older work wasn't. It's speaking to a middle class audience that's more sheltered and less experienced than 20th century audiences were.

Stuff that's primarily written for 20somethings who are assumed to be socially and sexually experienced Boomer grass-touchers... hits different. This really comes across to me *writing characters who code as Boomers* and finding their mindset is possibly not legible to moderns.

[curewimdy]

reading "Shoestring Theory" by Mariana Costa rn and having enough fun with it to forgive it for indulging in my #1 fantasy novel pet peeve (characters talk like modern 20somethings in some scenes and like they're doing Shakespeare in the Park in others). it's about a mage who goes back in time by several decades to when he was in his early 20s to try and prevent the apocalyptic future that he's living in, but he accidentally drags his estranged husband, the grief-stricken king who caused everything to go wrong, back with him. all of his plans are absolutely terrible. i'm only about half way through but it's a great time so far

[cantsayidont]

March 2019 and August 2021. Two flavors of the L.A. apocalypse, part of a larger genre that also includes KISS ME DEADLY, REPO MAN, WILD PALMS, MULHOLLAND DRIVE, and SOUTHLAND TALES.

NOW APOCALYPSE, which came and went in 2019, was created by Gregg Araki and cowritten with Karley Sciortino. It follows four sexually frustrated L.A. 20somethings: Ulysses (Avan Jogia), a stock Araki protagonist (mostly gay, perpetually baked, effortlessly hot) who's been suffering disturbing apocalyptic premonitions and weird visions; Carly (Kelli Berglund), his blond, white, mostly straight bestie, a struggling actress and part-time camgirl who I think is supposed to be Sciortino's self-insert; Ford (Beau Mirchoff), Uly's tragically straight aspiring screenwriter beefcake himbo roommate; and Ford's girlfriend Severine (Roxane Mesquida), an autistic French "astro-biological theorist" whose mysterious top-secret government project is probably connected to Uly's frightening visions.

Allegedly inspired by TWIN PEAKS, NOW APOCALYPSE feels more like a redress of Araki's 2010 film KABOOM. The surreal mystery aspects seem to be trying to make a point about the city's predatory appetite for hot, exploitable 20somethings (underscored by the return of Araki regular James Duval as a tormented homeless man), but if you're expecting the show to pay off or even pay much attention to its own mystery, you'll be disappointed. On the other hand, if you're in it for the sexually fluid horniness (which occupies about 85 percent of the plot and most of Araki and Sciortino's apparent interest), the flashes of weird David Icke-style alien conspiracy nonsense are distracting, and Araki seems either oblivious to or unconcerned about the antisemitic roots of conspiracy theories about sinister "Reptilians." As a modern sex comedy, NOW APOCALYPSE is pretty good, although it's familiar territory for Araki (it's really similar to KABOOM and even NOWHERE) and lacks the bite of his '90s work. The part that ends up standing out is the unexpectedly sensitive treatment of Severine; Mesquida manages to make this abrasive woman (whose personality Carly likens to nail polish remover) seem like a real person, who's not without feelings despite her discomfort with emotional expression.

BRAND NEW CHERRY FLAVOR, created by Nick Antosca and Lenore Zion based on a novel I haven't read, wants very much to be the love child of David Lynch and David Cronenberg: a surreal supernatural black comedy, set in the 1990s, about a driven young filmmaker named Lisa Nova (Rosa Salazar) who turns to witchcraft after she loses control of her unsettling short film to a sleazy producer whose contract she hasn't read carefully. A weird Boyle Heights mystic who calls herself Boro (Catherine Keener at her deadpan best) agrees to curse the producer for her, which has unexpected consequences, beginning with the fact that Lisa now vomits up kittens at regular intervals. Meanwhile, the embittered star of Lisa's short film (Siena Werber) resurfaces to reveal the horrifying events surrounding the making of that film, and some extremely weird things are happening at Lisa's new apartment.

BRAND NEW CHERRY FLAVOR is frustrating because it almost works. It's full of interesting pieces (including a memorable if obviously derivative segue into Cronenberg-esque body horror) that don't quite add up and some spooky moments whose tension the story keeps failing to sustain. (While the showrunners have obviously seen MULHOLLAND DRIVE, their attempts to evoke a Lynchian nightmare-logic sense of incipient dread consistently fall flat.) The biggest issue is that the show can't make up its mind what kind of story it's trying to tell (is it a cautionary tale? a parable about the creative process?), which leaves the protagonist a cipher and many of the story threads going nowhere.

This is a common problem with modern media, especially in this generic vein: Deliberate ambiguity and creative indecision are not the same thing, and if a story lacks clear stakes and thematic direction, all the cool, creepy, intriguing bits in the world won't amount to much. Rosa Salazar tries very hard, but she's hampered by the writers' uncertainty about how we should feel about Lisa, and Manny Jacinto is wasted (literally) in a minor supporting role as her former boyfriend. The standout is Catherine Keener, whose flair for droll understatement makes Boro (who's both more and less than she appears to be) a memorable villain.

[fagcrisis]

Okay and also—psychology is literally a fucking quack profession. My college had a really large really reputable psych department and I didn’t know a single person in that department who seemed to have any idea what they were talking about, student or professor. I took one of the psych classes when I was in my second year, it was the class required for all psych majors, and it was genuinely the most disheartening eye opening class I’ve ever taken. They didn’t teach us SHIT except for BULLSHIT weird biases and literal eugenics. To be clear, my prof was THE CHAIR OF THE PSYCH DEPARTMENT. at an accredited private college. With years and years and years of experience. In neuropsychology. She showed us a video like an interview with someone with debilitating OCD talking about their experience w life and motherhood, and at the end of the video, she asked, “do you think this person’s life is worth living? Given her quality of life, is it worth it?” She asked that verbatim, I still remember it. And then this class of fucking college educated fucking 20somethings had a WHOLE CONVERSATION about it, people were legit raising their hands and saying no, this doesn’t seem worth it, she shouldn’t be a mother, she shouldn’t have kids, it doesn’t seem like her quality of life is worth living, and nobody fucking said anything else until I raised my hand and said something to the effect of shame on you all this is literal eugenics. At which point the prof said no, I’m sorry if it came off that way, this is a strictly hypothetical and intellectual conversation. Even though it was about a real actual woman. This happened with a doc we watched about a bipolar man as well, where my fucking psych major classmates, all dead set on going into the professional word of psychiatry and psychology, were like, he seems like a danger to others, he should be forcibly locked up. It was insanity. This was a REQUIRED class for the department. In the PowerPoint where they talked about eating disorders, she had a picture of a woman taking off a fat suit. I learned nothing in this class except for how absolutely untrustworthy this field is. I passed my final exam with a 99% without studying because there’s no fucking real science behind it it’s all just “what would the implicit bias be.” The SINGLE point I missed on the exam was a question about Freudian psychology and how it can be applied to modern psychology and it was a multiple choice question and I chose the wrong answer bc I remember looking at the right answer and thinking “surely not even these people can be that fucking stupid.”

Also, in this professor’s real life examples section of the lesson we did on personality disorders, her ONLY TWO REAL LIFE EXAMPLES were fucking Spock, from Star Trek, and the Joker. From the film… The Joker.

It’s all a fucking joke quite frankly

SORRY THE JOKER?? also yeah ik psych students and its all like. fucking insane. like ive had such a horrible experience with most therapists because they were people who didnt understand my experiences at all and like somehow i dont think the entire field will be fixed by "the good ones".

[torchickentacos]

Summarizing TV shows I've never seen

Breaking Bad: takes place where high school musical did. Jesse and Walter. 99% sure Walter's the bald chem teacher. Jesse is either gay, homophobic, or both (?). There's a lawyer woman named Skylar who Walt may or may not be hitting on the side, not sure. Meth.

Yugioh: kid has cards that can summon magical creatures. I think there's a hell realm. There's one guy, Marik, who is actually two guys in one I think, but I wouldn't swear by it.

My Hero Academia: something to do with toe joints????? Is that like. correct???? I distinctly remember something about that. There's the frog guy, bakugou (the zuko one), Deku (not the zelda tree), and the girl that looks like May from pokemon or Suki from ATLA.

Fairy Tail: I actually have seen this one but couldn't tell you a damn thing about it. There's a guild thing. Lots of fanservice. Guy with the scarf.

Miraculous Ladybug: guy and girl are in love but also superheroes who are in love and nobody knows the oter is in love and a superhero? Shenanigans ensue. They're a ladybug and a cat but in a superhero way and not a furry way.

Fox 911: copaganda but firefighters????? no idea. Swifties really like it.

Friends: I've seen SOME episodes. Two of the guys look like the same guy to me and I can't tell them apart. Friends say I'm the phoebe because she's kind of got a hippie vibe. Rachel and Monica are not wlw apparently but you could have fooled me. SMELLY CAT. Also what's his name... david schwimmer. His character is kind of annoying to me. He had a monkey once? Also CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!!

Supernatural: dude. NO fucking idea. Superhell. The two guys might be gay? or brothers? There's a third guy I think???? Someone's gay and someone's got a brother? They had a scooby doo crossover. Demons.

Doctor who: time travel in a phone booth??? There's a bunch of doctors. fifteen of them? One said feminist rights or something???

Supernatural: Sadie Sink, who people said I looked like in my red hair era. I think we're both just scots-irish 20somethings though idk. 80's. Byler. A lot of bowl cuts, unfortunately.

Amphibia: frogs and a blonde girl???

Moral Orel: No idea but it kind of scares me /lh. @blossyossyossy likes it.

Modern Family: family issues but there's a bazillion of them. My mom says I look like Haley dunphy. Idk who that is. Funny enough, Haley dunphy and Sadie sink look nothing alike yet I've been told I look like both of them. I don't see either, tbh.

[edwinspaynes]

from your tid tlh bubble as you said

which couples from better in black would you be uncomfortable or not interested into reading? And from whcih you would be uncomfy to reas smut? As Cassie said some tales might be spicy

TID and TLH-wise:

So I don't think I'd really be uncomfortable reading smut about any couple besides Ghostwriter (because Lucie feels, like, 15). All of the others feel staunchly like adults to me, especially because of the way they're written. I perceive them as, like, 20somethings and definitely do not picture teens while reading. So I'd be unbothered, even if I'd rather have stories about other things. There are a couple of modern couples that feel young who I'd be uncomfortable with (like Kitty,) but they all are unlikely to get stories anyway since they're not talking or haven't begun their stories yet.

TID/TLH couples I don't like/am not interested in are Jessa, Ghostwriter, and Arianna. But I'll read literally any ship besides Jessa, which is the only couple I'll flat-out skip a story about from any TSC series.

[belle-of-a-time]

A list of pretty good actually teen/YA supernatural shows that I have personally seen and think are not That bad.

If I think of more I’ll add them to the list.

Pretty Please give me Campy Supernatural recommendations.

Zombies (I’m actually terrified of zombies so a lot are too scary for me)

Z nation (very campy the middle seasons are my favorite)

iZombie (only the first season)

Vampires (i wanted to be one when I was ten)

The vampire diaries (i don’t really recommend ALL of TVD it gets super frustratingly boring for me at least)

The Originals (the edgier spin off I did not like it but it’s worth mentioning)

Legacies (the only one of the three I actually recommend wholeheartedly. It’s campy it’s stupid and it’s fun also there’s a musical episode!)

My babysitter is a vampire (absolute classic but not as classic as-)

Buffy the vampire slayer (it had an awkward implied sex scene that made me laugh also has a musical episode)

What we do in the shadows (older skewed but absolutely hilarious)

True blood (be warned if you haven’t seen it. Confederate vampires abound 🤢, other than that though it’s pretty alright)

Werewolves (give me recommendations please)

Wolf Blood (absolute favorite of all time,its on Amazon prime and peacock and I Highly recommend)

Teen wolf (classic)

TVD and it’s spin-offs also count but If you want Werewolf content The Originals is probably your best bet tbh

Wolf pack (buffy cameo in the first episode, im hooked)

Miscellaneous (witches, ghosts, otherwise spooky)

Wednesday

Julie and the phantoms (girl accidentally summons ghosts by playing an old cd in her garage. Drama ensues. every episode has at least one song)

Binny and the ghost ( girl meets ghost boy and they fall in love, very cute. German Disney channel, is not on Disney plus the only way I know to watch it is piracy)

H2O: just add water (mermaids… need i say more)

Cursed (Arthurian but with a twist)

The imperfects (a group of 20somethings underwent experimental treatment for a condition that eventually causes them to develop supernatural powers that turn them into “monsters” lovingly called a “coming of rage” by its fans)

Dirk gently’s holistic detective agency (Elijah wood and Samuel Barnett are very lucky at solving crimes. Contains my poor meow meow Bart (love her) and also my girl crush Amanda. It’s weird and campy and I wish it had gotten more seasons)

The Witcher (I really liked season one and two!)

Charmed (the original AND the reboot are both very fun, it’s about witches)

Once upon a time (long and not paced very well but it’s fun at times, I had a crush on Peter Pan when I was a kid and his season is the best so there’s that.)

The 100 (Technically sci-fi but I’ve heard it gets supernatural at some point so when I get there I’ll probably move it, it’s kinda stupid but it’s campy and FULL absolutely brimming with hot men and lesbians and it Still got probably too many seasons)

Dead Boy Detectives (if you can’t tell I like mystery shows. GHOSTS! Ghost boys solve mysteries with their psychic friend! Has a lot of queer rep and tbh I think it’s handled better than a lot of stuff recently Especially Edwin, Jenny was a little less so but i did love that there were No homophobes I mean a few were implied but they don’t get any platform. VERY cute and very emotional at times I would rank it up there with The Imperfects as one of my Favorite modern supernatural shows. It’s a Netflix original as well so its chances of getting a second season are low but I adored it, it’s set up for at least one more season but you know how Netflix is.)

[jerrydevine]

6, 14, 22 if you want to ❄🐈

6: episode of tv that defined the year for you?

i love that like 4 different people sent this in im so excited. well of course the #1 is parabatai lost. but i think #2 is the jughead paradox 🫶🫶🫶

14: favorite book you read this year?

well i cant rank the shadowhunters books i read but theyre in their own special category <33. but i looooved this book called modern girls by jennifer s. brown :)!! its about a jewish 20something and her mom in 1930s new york dealing with their lives and their faith! i loved it i would really recommend if it sound even remotely interesting to u :)

22: favorite place you visited this year?

um when i went to go see keren :) and we sat on the beach and met for the first time irl and i loved it and her sosososososo much <33333

[llycaons]

“Mm.” Huaisang cuts all their friends’ hair, has done since college. Song Lan doesn’t like to be touched by strangers, Wen Qing spent two years being asked why such a beautiful young woman wanted a boy’s haircut, and Wei Ying is just cheap, and now it’s tradition, a thing they’ve all slotted into their lives.

this fic is, on paper, very similar to that dreadful knitting one. modern au in some american city, 20something wx, baby/sweetheart petnames, characters in therapy and handling their traumas, lots of scenes of kink negotiation, possibly genderfluid wwx, nonbinary nhs..really very close. but for some reason I’m really liking this one and I can’t even think of the knitting one without wanting to commit arson

[sizzlingpatrolfox]

Jimin saying he is too busy to get married now and joking about dating for 10 seconds lol! He isn’t feeding the delulus 😭

The fact that he said "someday...?" about getting married 🥹 he's keeping it real. It could happen, he's just not thinking about that right now. Very modern 20something year old of him.

He tried, okay?!

It was just too complicated.

[babyawacs]

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@us_stratcom .@us_stratcom .@usairforce .@usnavy .@usmc @usarmy .@lockheedmartin .@northropgrumman @boeingdefense ihave stumbled upon an arcade airwar simulation 2vs2 modern vs su57‎ ‎ itis arcade thereis no way an su57 r77m can easily intercept an sm6 but not an airframe of a typhoon or an f14arcade at 20something miles the only options besides chaff and low altitude evasive move is jammer on or…