#mgs3 spoilers

[ashenberry]

[ID in ALT] When heavens divide I will see the choices within my hands

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I really really really liked peacewalker I think it might be my favorite metal gear game so far can’t wait to see how this man makes shit worse ♥️ kaz under the cut

[ID in ALT]

I don’t think i captured the expression at all lol but I’m happy w/ the pose cant wait to see more kaz in v i sure hope nothing bad happens to anyone in these games :]

[thatcreature]

I finished mgs3 yesterday and oh dear... What a game

Spoilers ahead but

The amount of just details both in the story and all the hidden info. Like the fact that you can see early the Sorrow in the Virtuous Mission?? or just by not giving the attention needed to casual codec convos you can miss so much implied info like the connection between Ocelot and the Boss.

And that's just another topic, the irony of the Boss character... The way she was always following orders until the end. The way she wanted to end all wars and reunite humanity, just for her apprentice to be the one to keep training soldiers and keep war alive ALL in her memory. How that apprentice, now known as Big Boss, inherited her name but did so much harm against her will.

She's one of the greatest characters written for sure. I still have many MGS games to play but my friend was right, MGS3 is just on another level both in the franchise and games in general.

Anyways sorry for the rambling I just really like this character and game.

[asseater3k]

Metal Gear Mania Day:5

At the time of writing I’m at the save screen after getting hit with 9 meaty electric god wind fists from a large Russian man I want try being less rambler for this one so I’m going to bullet out my talking points below the cut THESE WILL CONTAING SPOILERS FOR MGS 3 A GAME YOU SHOULD BE PLAYING IF YOU CAN

BOSS FIGHTS - I’ve faced three bosses today. The Fear, The End and The Fury all members of the cobra unit and all pretty fun I appreciate how open ended these boss fights are even between using Lethal vs non Lethal tactics each side has a plethora of tactics that you can use for example The End is set up so you can do a sniper wolf style snipers duel theres a room with an SVD and ammo in the arena and everything however I wanted his camo and didnt have a non lethal sniper so I had to go at it with a tranq pistol i feel like if I did this in some other games I’d be up a creek but here not only was I able to do it I had several ways of going about it you can terrace some animals use thermal goggles if you have them and even sneak up behind him which i was able to do once, The Fear is similar but I don’t have much to say as i cheesed him with fake death pill and stun grenade which worked shockingly well, The Fury is a lot less physically open than these taking place in a Vulcan raven style maze but the big storm drain looked cool and offered no less tactical depth, my one complaint thats very minor is that KOing The End doesn’t get you his camo just his myosin which is still a good pick up as its a non lethal sniper. I learned that to get his camo you actually have to hold him up three times which is it fine I’m just kinda bummed cause it turns out its a good ass camo. a lot of the stuff you get especially boss items seems to set you up for another playthrough which is kind of a thing throughout the game encouraging multiple play-throughs which is something I would be open to if I weren’t on a time crunch

THE BOSS- I noticed while comrade Kazuya was pushing my shit in boss got visibly upset by this on top of that she keeps insisting Colonel Mishima leave snake to her. It’s obvious she still cares for him in someway and she doesn’t seem like the kind of person who just defect to be on the other side so I dont think its just a lingering thing she has to get over on the side she beat my ass with powerful techniques twice already so I think theres something more its meta gear after all theres gotta be some crossed wires the only thing is that where I’m at now there seem to only be two major players 2.5 at best plus all this stuff with the “philosophers legacy” they bring up the philosopher’s super casually like I’m supposed to know them maybe it’s something from the MSX games but The Boss intrigues me I dont think she just out and out switched sides and I don’t really want to kill her we’ll see I guess

[deadscell]

thinking about when big boss tells ocelot he’s pretty good, ocelot does that little smirk and grabs his arm. thinking about when ocelot gets excited during his boss fight when big boss challenges him to a quick draw duel, and tells him “yeah i felt that.” thinking about when big boss is the one to spare ocelot after eva runs him over with her bike. thinking about when ocelot shouts for big boss when he thinks he shot him, he even checks his revolver for the bullet that’s still there. thinking about when ocelot keeps the bullet that landed next to him, and wears it as a necklace as a reminder. thinking about when ocelot steals his food, because he wants to “eat what he eats” and big boss doesn’t take the hint from eva. thinking about when ocelot shouts “snake” and gives him his weapons for the volgin boss fight, giving small compliments and shouts of encouragement, even going so far as to help him. thinking about the way ocelot chases big boss for one final fight, to test his limits, just for him to laugh about the whole ordeal and ask him his name. thinking about the way ocelot thanks “john” on his behalf when he’s on the telephone. thinking about the finger guns he constantly gives big boss, and how he inherited the habit from his mother. i am screaming about how obviously similar ocelot and his mother are, when it comes to how they show their caring and loyal side to one person. i am thinking about them too much.

[cyber3000punk]

[pleaserofthedragqueenmothdaddy]

One constant throughout my mgs3 playthrough was being in awe of the towering presence of The Boss in every scene she was in. This one moment in the torture chamber where Colonel Volgin actually recoils away from the The Boss as she walks toward him (and the guy is 2 heads taller than her on top of having electric magic powers!) is still fresh in my mind. Her calm, collected nature really cuts through everybody else's over the top presentation.

[disciple-of-frost]

Video games with final boss/final areas covered in flowers!!!

That's it. That's the post. These are just the ones I know, feel free to add more!

[mutsukiss]

Ngl fellas I love venom and i think he's funny as shit but I miss the john from mgs3 </3

[wallcravvler]

Did I just log in to yell about the FUCKIN' BLACK SUIT BEING IN THE NEW GAMEPLAY TRAILER?

Yes. Yes I did and it looks GLORIOUS! Yuri is really going all in on the voice, really reminds me of his Sasuke days! Miles' moves are also insane, and I'm glad we didn't really see much of how the symbiote works cuz I wanna be thoroughly surprised when I get it!

Also, pic for y'all

[claw00]

I’ve only ever read a small handful of fanfic, but MGS3 makes me want to read some

[ashenberry]

[ID in ALT]

collection of metal gear solid drawings as i went through the series. if you see something here that isnt wrong know its bc it was revealed after i drew the silly doodle

[armed-saphire]

Descriptions from the MGS3 voice casting sheet: (there are a few grammatical/spelling errors, I'm assuming because it's translated from Japanese.) (also lots of spoilers ahead)

Snake-

Male, 30s, Standard English. His real name is Jack. Naked Snake is the code name he uses in the VR Missions and during Snake Eater operations. He will later be given the name, Big Boss, and is the Big Boss of the future. 6'5" high, and his physical constitution are thick like 'Schwarzenegger'. He has more of an "all mighty", tough fighting style. He is a persistent, highly independant hero. FOX (Force Operations X), the special forces team that Snake serves with in MGS3, will eventually become the unique special forces team, "FOX-HOUND", formed at the end of the 20th century for solo infiltration and destruction.

The Boss-

Female, 40s, slightly British accent. A British American female. Real name is unknown. The code name she uses in the U.S. is The Boss. She serves in FOX's VR Missions. She gives support via radio transmission during the VR Missions. Her age is unknown but she is a gorgeous female soldier somewhere in her 40s and single. She is mother of Ocelot. She had experienced the world war. She was involved with the British SAS, the American Green Beret and SEALs, and sits high on the list of each country's special-forces legendary soldiers lists. She is currently proposing the establishment of a new special force unit. She is Snake's mentor, and the only woman that Snake loves.

EVA-

Female, late 20s, standard English. Eva is a spy and Snake's supporting mole. Infiltrating the KGB, she acts as Sokolov's lover under the name Tatyana (nick name, Tanya). She is also romantically involved with Snake, but he doesn't know about her double identity (Tatyana and Eva). Eva is using Khrushchev in support of Snake. She is an ex-NSA code analyst, an American sexy blonde type super glamour chick. As Sokolov's helper (and lover), she infiltrates the GRU, where she also becomes the Major's lover. Actually, during MGS3, while working as a spy for China she falls for Snake while working together. She is a very wicked, fox-like woman, but likeable.

Major Zero-

Male, 50's, British accent. Real name is David Oh. In "FOX" he's known as Major Zero. He will be referred to as Major Tom in the VR Missions, but his code name, Major Zero, will be used during the main story. He offers intelligence support to Snake via radio transmission during missions. He belongs to the CIA bureau of classified planning, and is the commanding officer of "FOX". Major Tom is British, an English gentleman. He is in his 50's and single. Aiming to create a task force of absolute secrecy to collect intelligence during the Cold War period, he organized "FOX". Major Tom has a British accent.

Thunderbolt-

Male, 50s, standard English. He is the colonel/major of the GRU. His code name is Thunderbolt, real name Ephgeny Borisovich Volgen. He plays MGS3's villain role. He is a giant at over 6'7" tall. He is kind of a torture freak. Inheriting a fortune from the Assembly (his dead father's money laundering business was handed over), he builds an enormous base in Glasnigrad. Bringing in The Boss's group and the Brezhnev military faction, he seeks ultimate political power. A man of broad tastes, he keeps two lovers, one of them Lieutenant Raikov, the other Eve. He is the strategic operations commander of the enemy. He is an ex-boxing champion.

Ocelot-

Male, high teens, standard English. He is Snake's old enemy and biggest rival. He has an incredibly handsome appearance, and is, in a word, cool. He is a pure, likeable young man. As a teenager under Major Volgen, he commanded the elite force. Ocelot, son of a legendary hero and was raised to be an elite. First encounters Snake in the VR Missions, he was put to shame in front of his subordinates. He hopes and hunts for a chance to someday get even with Snake. Even after that, Snake always seemed to be one step ahead of him. In awe of always being outdone, Ocelot comes to respect and hold deep affection for Snake.

Ivan Raidenovitch Raikov-

Male, 20s, standard English. Ivan is a young GRU Lieutenant. An elite in the power hierarchy, he is next in line behind the Major, and also the Major's lover. In his 20s.

Paramedic-

Female, mid-20s, standard English, raised in Eastern part of US. A Caucasian female who handles Snake's medical care via radio transmission. She is in her mid-20s, divorced. She is a "FOX" support member. She has a full, round look to her, and a motherly feel.

Mr Sigint-

Male, mid-20s, African American accent. He is a Will Smith type, a 21st century young African American male. He is crazy about computers. A supporting member of "FOX", he appears in the main story of MGS3. Mr Sigint keeps tabs on Snake via radio transmission. He explains about historical or visionary weapons and gives advice on how to deal with certain enemies. As a member of the NSA, he is familiar with the most cutting edge electronic reconnaissance technology.

Director Sokolov-

Male, 50s, standard English. He is a Russian scientist and his full name is Nicholas Stepanovich Sokolov. He is the man Snake must recover and escort back. He runs the planning and design department with Khrushchev (KGB) funds. Possessing a tall, emaciated body, he appears to be nervous but diligent. He is the inventor of Shaghad. In fear of his own creation, he hopes to leave Russia. Climbing the Berlin wall to the west side, he finds protection, but in Cuba Missile Crisis related dealings, is brought back to Russia. In the main story he is killed by the Major, Volgen, after making contact with Snake.

Director Glanin-

Male, 60s, standard English. He is another Russian scientist. His full name is Alexander Leonovich Glanin. He is short and fat, with a sly look and way of talking. A member of the Kosygin faction, he works in the Glasnigrad Planning and Design Bureau as a scholar, funded by the GRU. He is the inventor of a two-legged walking machine (the eventual REX). He is crazy about vodka. Troubled with the development of incorporating nuclear powered energy into his two-legged walking machine, he consults his American friend (the father of Otacon). After leaking information to Snake, he is tortured to death by Major Volgen.

The Pain-

Male, 50s, standard English. A surviving member of Cobra. He has the ability to manipulate and command large numbers of bees. He is a giant at over 6'7" tall. He keeps the queen bee in his backpack, using her buzzing sound to guide the other bees. His body is also covered with bees. When they fly, a beehive is left behind, formed in his hand. The beehive can then be thrown like a grenade, exploding into a swarm of bees. The Pain keeps a highly toxic, "bullet bee" inside his body. When he removes his skullcap, the bullet bee is released from his mouth. This bullet bee, much like a real bullet, is fired at high speeds.

The Fear-

Male, 50s, standard English. He is a surviving member of Cobra. His real name is unknown. His arms and legs are considerably longer than a normal person's, and he climbs trees much the same way that a spider would (he can pop his limbs out of joint and bend them backwards). Using rope he can rapidly travel through the forest and between trees. He is indeed a spider man. He has a long, insect-like tongue (forked through surgery) and can grab things with it.

The Fury-

Male, 50s, standard English. He is a surviving member of Cobra. His real name is unknown. He wears a black Soviet-made space suit, which serves as a replacement for actual fire prevention gear. He is very skilled with a flamethrower. Like The Boss, he has experience going into space as an astronaut, but suffered full body burns when traveling through the atmosphere. He can no longer feel pain, and does not talk much at all. He lives to create angry, wicked fire. Removing his helmet reveals a burn-distorted face.

The Sorrow-

Male, 50s, standard English. He is an ex-member of Cobra, already dead. He was romantically involved with The Boss, and the father of Ocelot. In battle together with The Boss, he lost his own life to save hers, and his corpse still rests below a suspension bridge in Cherno Yarsuki. He becomes an ally of Snake. Since he is a ghost, he does not speak outside of the boss battle. He gives off a sense of intelligence and the feeling of a philosopher. His personality is dry and serious. He is unarmed and very weak when it comes to combat. He can use his spiritual mental power to communicate, and has the ability to summon the dead.

The End-

Male, 100 yrs old, standard English. A surviving member of Cobra with a code name (The End) that implies the meaning "demise". His real name is unknown. He is the oldest member of Cobra and taught The Boss everything about sniping. This legendary sniper was born in the 1860's, he will soon be more than 100 years old. He is the founder of all modern day sniping techniques, from stalking and ambushing, to general know-how. With lichen living parasitically in his body, he is a living miracle. Through the photosynthetic properties of the moss living in his body, he can survive without eating or drinking anything.

There are some additional ones that I felt didn't need to be included in this post but if you want to read them all of the descriptions are here.

[asseater3k]

Metal Gear Mania Day:7

Spoilers for MGS3 below the cut

I liked The bullet style from day 5 so were gonna use that this

THE SORROW this was a very cool boss fight. in my instance it was terribly mechanically complex or strictly speaking engaging but i was glued to my seat and the screen for the whole thing I wasn’t aware that there’d be a boss fight like this when i decided to try not to kill anyone, to be honest i just wanted to look cool in front of girls, but when i put two and two together that he shows you and makes you fight everyone he kills I kinda wished id killed some people It’s such a cool idea, I was a little peeved that the cobra unit ghosts showed up because I busted my ass to get all the KOs but they did also all explode after that so fair enough. I do love that even though he has a health bar its empty cause hes a ghost and the framing of this boss fight as snake almost dying is cool and helped by the fact that if you call anyone on codec they give you their game over lines

OCELOT this fucking guy every scene in this game makes you realize that the guy we see in MGS 1&2 was the “normal” well adjusted version of this guy who doesn’t go around sniffing random people and keeps his raging desire for Big Boss somewhat in check him being the final encounter was a nice relax from the actual final boss and I like the scene where they fight in the plane

THE BOSS (FIGHT) this one fuckin hurt, It’s a beautifully designed fight, A final duel in field of white flowers nothing but but stealth and CQC I made this harder on myself by using the sneaking suit cause I wanted that contrast against The Boss’ suit but man If you pay attention Snake gets a little better in each cutscene against the boss and that comes to ahead with you having to counter her moves in the fight finally surpassing your mentor add on the timer which i thought would actually come into play cause a timer didnt pop up on screen when the fight started even when The Boss started counting downs herself i was a bit 50/50 but I did actually run out of time so I learned my lesson. You have to play such a mix of patient and aggressive to get through this one

THE EVA ESCORT SECTION Ive heard a lot of flack directed at the Emma section in the last game and honestly i thought this part was worse it wasn’t anything horrible just a bit slow there was a section at the begg=inning where soldiers kept poring out and she wouldn’t go from an attack state to follow state fast enough in the down time between the soldiers showing up so we kept getting detected and entering alert I was mostly annoyed cause she kept shooting people and I thought the game would count it against me like with snake in MGS2 other than that it was just strategic snack acquisition and on to the heart break.

THE ENDING AND THE BOSS while the ending of MGS2 melted my brain this one just made me sad its a much tighter and more personal narrative than the last game and I think thats a smart call if you do something like MGS2 again you’d have to escalate it which I think would be difficult to do so soon after and without getting too convoluted. Don’t get it wrong there’s still some crossing threads in this specifically with regards to EVA, The Boss , Ocelots allegiances EVA being a Chinese spy Ocelot being a triple agent reporting to krushev over gru and The US over even them and of course The Boss remaining loyal to the US despite Kowing the expanded mission out right required her death and disgrace. I dont have a ton i feel i can say about that without straight up beaming the game into your brain its just so fucking heart breaking man her talking about how the ceaseless churn of war turns soilders into these disposable pieces where their lives a relationships are ripped up by the whims of major leaders and bids for power money etc I have players a bit of peace walker at time of writing and the fact that snake didnt fucking get it and interpreted her dream not as a world with out conflict freeing them from the need to be this group beholdent and loyal to the whims of others over themselves or each other and can live in peace but instead as world simply not beholdent to any conflict while still perpetuating it while remaking loyal to themselves just guts me man

MOVING FOWARD i had a bit of trouble deciding to go onto peace walker or MGS4 I started peace walker but got so nervous that i made the wrong choice taht i actually asked a blog I follow who is way more knowledgeable about this kind of stuff than i am about how I should go (you should follow them by the way their @ is cerastes they make good posts and have very enjoyable streams sometimes) in short he told me that while that while I was not making a mistake as both of these games feed into eachother very well meaning it was ultimately a personal choice that personally he would play 4 first sating that its depiction of war as buisness would resonate with a peace walker play through. So I was going to do that then I waffled some more then I decided that MGS4 status as a conclusion to series at lest at the time would vibe better as the final gaem in the context of this deranged two marathon I’ve done. I’m mostly writing this bit so i dont come across as/ feel like an asshole for asking for advice and kind of disregarding it, and if you read this dreamer I really did appreciate the advice and would have played the order you recommended if I was playing this in a more casual way taking my time through them all etc, any way neurosis aside its on to peace walker yippee!!

[mio-nika]

Tell us some metal gear opinions. Since summer started I've been watching let's play and I'm almost done I think with mgs3

Oh, easily.

Yellow Cake is the best fan comic I ever read and honestly should be studied as a piece of art (it's spoilerish to mgs5, tho)

I want Kaz to meet Otacon so much. It would be so funny. Like. Kaz hates his fucking father (and he's right) and Hal looks EXACTLY like him.

You need to watch "Let's destroy the Metal Gear". All three parts. You can read it, but the dub is so good. I think it quintessential to the mgs experience.

Otacon is my favourite boy and I want to use him as a floor mop every time i see him. Dave too, but he's too tough for it and I'm not a fan of permanent physical damage.

Also. Yes. I'm otasune enjoyer. I have an entire post with fic recommendations

Because I'm not normal, I actually wanted to play all the games except a couple of them (like Snake's revenge). And both mgs mobile and mgs portable are very good. Mgs portable is much more fun at camp organising than mgs5

Liquid is the worst Snake. He just. THE MOST ANNOYING . My personal rating Solid > V > Raiden > BB > Solidus > Liquid

I have a slowly cooking fanart idea with Otacon, but it gets pushed down all the time. Its related to Tsubasa wo Kudasai

All Snakes are asexuals (Otacon is aro)

Every mention of Paz makes me sick. Its a spoiler, but also. A giant trigger for me :)

One of my friends loves when I'm explaining her the lore of mgs. Its very nice of her. And it also usually takes me a couple of hours.

Yes. The mgs games are as gay as people say they are. Its honestly inspiring.

[sailinginstars]

‼️ TBB SEASON FINALE SPOILERS ‼️

man

oh my GODDDDD im actually crying and screaming they did so good😭😭

i. just. wow. ok so.😭 FIRST so glad people were right about this being an hour long episode theres genuinely no way it could’ve been 25 mins. seeing omega already having escaped before anyone could reach her was awesome shes so skilled love her. AND ECHO AND EMERIE WORKING TOGETHER i love them they’ve both been brainwashed by the opposite side and seeing them fight for a better future for everyone else is so touching.

SO SURPRISED NO ONE DIES THANK GODDDD

ANYWAYS OMEGA RELEASED THE ZILLO BEAST WOOOOOO‼️‼️ ECHO SAYING THATS WHAT HE WOULDVE DONE!!! echo is literally her mom im crying😭 erm the really long ladder the kids had to climb up was a mgs3 reference guys☝️ ANYWAYS THE TORTURE SCENE HELLO 🙏🙏 i love men screaming 🫶

UGHHHH NALA SE I KNEW YOU WERE NEVER EVIL. she was so real for taking out rampart with her MAN FUCK RAMPART i kinda thought he changed lmao😭

GRRR OK SO THE FIGHG BETWEEN ECHO AND WRECKER VS THE TWO TROOPER LORRRRD, i was literally on the edge of my fucking seat the whole time i thought they were COOKED so many times. OH also crosshair loosing a hand OH MY GOD???

the bridge scene. GODDDDDD like i KNEW hemlock wasnt going to shoot omega but i was still so scared. AND CROSSHAIR MADE THE SHOT WOOOOO. scorch tho😭😭 so sad to see him go🙏 BUT THEY KILLED HEMLOCK HELL YEA‼️‼️ uhm also hunter with his hair wet⁉️⁉️

ANYWAYSSSS everyone made it home safe (well mot crosshairs’s hand but oh well, now him and echo match) nice to see clones looking sorta domestic and not in a war setting lmao. and like i get why echo is leaving but😒 MAMA ECHO PLEASE STOP LEAVING OH MY GOD JUST STAY ON SCREEN IM BEGGING YOU. reallllly hope we get some kinda show about him, rex, wolffe, and gregor and the whole clone rebellion thing PLEASE WHAT HAPPENED WITH WOLFFE⁉️

sobbbbb hunter, cross, wrecker, omega, and batcher just resting im tearing up. they literally just get to be family now im so happy

now the last few minutes…

I SCREAMEDDDD WE WERE SO RIGHT ABOUT THE TIMESKIP IM SOOOKK GRATEFUL tbh i did get nervous seeing the panover pabu but as SOON as i saw omega ik what was happening 😭😭 OLD MAN HUNTER IM SCREAMING HE LOOKS SO GOOD (he also looks strangely like blackbeard from ofmd lmao) he def has dad bod ill die on that hill😭 they both looks so happy and domestic i cant OMEGA GOING OFF TO FIGHT IN THE REBELLION I CANTTT shes def going to see hera again thats so sweet. ughhhh hunter worrying over her hes such a dad GOD. but anyways this moment was so sweet, been missing the hunter-omega relationship this season so this had me tearing up and shi😭

TECHS GOGGLES ON THE SHIP… i knew tech wasnt gonna come back, it would’ve taken away from his sacrifice but i would’ve loved to see him again. lowkey surprised we didn’t get a cx-2 reveal, people thought he was tech, cody, a clone specifically of crosshair, dogma, fucking slick. (real ones know cx-2 is actually fives hes not dead guys TRUST!!11!!1111!!11!!)

anyways god that was such a satisfying ending and im VERY pleased, crazy how this season had NO bad ep. incredibly sad this show is over tho. this show has been on my mind constantly for the past three years im so sad to see it go but im also see happy we got to see these characters lives play out in such a beautiful way. sorry for this being essay length i just had a LOT of thoughts about this ep.

for the last time, anywaysss. (also this is not proofread sorry for any grammatical errors lol) this ep was amazing and the team did WONDERFULLY!! good bye bad batch😢

[sanctaignorantia]

Explaing bosselot is difficult without spoiling most of the plot of the mgs series, as naked snake and ocelots relationship is responsible for 90% of the problems and plot tbh, and I dont wish to spoil you in case you'd be interested in the series later. The artworked he reblogged was feom mgsv ( so i will be intentionally vague, as its major spoilers for the ending of that game) but shows snake and ocelot making out in the passenger seat as a third character drives (a third wheel pun) a truck. This is the same game where ocelot admits his "past" feelings for snake, but analyzing the scene, theres ques to this being a partial lie/deception on his part. And clearly by his actions in the previous games, that this love is far from past tense. I think he reblogged it a few years after his break with konami iirc too.

Then theres the snake x kaz beach date, the japanese aduio dramas, and kaz's quarrels with ocelot in the last game, which feel very much like them catfighting over snake and their romantic/sexual relationships with him.

Not to mention vamp and col scott dolph being the first bisexual vg character in mgs 2, the boss having established relationships with both men (mgs3) and women (pw), col volgin having with relationships with both raikov and eva(mgs3), and meryls comments about no longer being attracted to men (because of psychotherapy?), while not specifying the same about women (mgs1)

Then theres kojimas comments outside of text in interviews about ocelot x snake being likened to a "pure love", otacon x solid snake being compared to johnlock, and other comments that are hard to decipher/parse for me, but i dont think hes suggesting queerbaiting, as much as complicated relationships that blur platonic/romantic/sexual

There is a lot of tragedy that happens with many of these relationships, as with a story that deals with the effects of war, nuclear conflict, espionage, and a certain amount of real world politics, but thats also far from saying that queer relationships within mgs are meaningless/not real/ have little impact

Sorry for such a long ask, but I do hope it makes sense?

That's pretty crazy in a good way! I wouldn't have imagined anything like that coming from Kojima, I confess. But I'm glad to hear these details about the MG universe. It made me feel more relieved about Higgs and Sam, that's for sure, and it clarified why I sometimes felt that there was a lot of homoeroticism in DS (does that make sense?), so I guess it was the same in MG, but it became more and more real, I guess?

Thank you very much!