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julian blossom didn’t just go on a random path, he followed the road not taken by one all american archie andrews.
julian took over archie’s role in the musical—the fictionalized tale of his literal life, taking up the torch as the classic red-haired all star—and then wandered aimlessly as a “lost soul” (indecisive, unsure What His Story Is About) until eventually following the fated footsteps of Fred Andrews by enlisting and dying in the war
a life for a life. julian took on the narrative to try and set archie free.
#and it didnt work! i guess#riverdale#not to mention if you think about it that#clay took the jughead role in the musical and then moved to new york to write and be gay#much to think about#idk if this works but like hear me out#archie andrews#julian blossom#fred andrews#archie’s all american#JULIAN GOING LEFT. JULIAN GOING RIGHT.
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dumping more of my stancest feels here because i cannot NOT think of them. i read journal 3 for the first time this week and its great because Ford acts like stanley's biggest hater which is pretty fking funny (if not absolutely infuriating at times because omfg stfu you smug prick)
but the moments like this get to me
Ford being blinded by his quest of grandeur, accolades and praise for world changing discoveries, so obsessed with greatness, being the first name people remember, and all the other things his npd-isms tells him he wants.
And then there's "reminds me of camping with my brother. i wonder what he's up to..."
i mentioned in my previous post that stan acts quite a lot like the anchor to ford's boat, keeping him grounded and most importantly, safe from both the bitter and the sweet kinds of evils. but he also represents something so much simpler to ford too: the simple desires he represses so much because its not "good enough" for someone special like him.
he resents stan so much because he represents a "block" against that percieved good enough success he wants, the obstacle that made it impossible to get in a fancy college, become the world renowed researcher, the one who wanted to destroy his journal's and lifes work (even though it was the better, safer option if Bill really WAS that dangerous, which he was) that could still make him famous. because if ford's not "praised and weird" then he's just "weird" and being "weird" was nothing but a pain his whole life that kept him rejected and isolated from the masses. and stan prevented him from that.
(btw "maybe he can prove himself to me" is nasty work my god ford is a douche lmao)
a lot of his projections of something greater comes through with how he treated dipper in the show (his whole spiel in damvtf) and fiddleford in journal 3 where he looks down on the happy life that fiddleford had with his wife and child and saying he was "wasting his talents" making computers. and like, we all know by the way he takes them on high stakes adventures they're not as prepared for compared to him (and end up causing more trouble than not by doing so), he's trying to fill a gaping hole left by someone else. we all know this obviously, we all know what we ship here, but what i came to appreciate the most about it is how much that gaping hole exists in the low stakes
everytime ford is thinking during the "down time" moments, his thoughts always drift back to his childhood, and one person who represents it.
childhood memories, making fun of stans favorite snack, scribbling out a design of the stan o war, whenever Ford lets his mind wander it expresses such an intense yearning for the past before he became obsessed with wanting something more. these are his most utmost and most unfiltered thoughts, which is why he scribles them away or and writes in code. and the fact that he directly says they are about NOT getting married, followed with "wondering what he's doing right now", painting the picture of what his most ideal idylic life is. wanting a return of something lost. wanting Stan back more than anything.
he finally accepts that his dream never really changed, just the same as stan's and so they saild off together for the rest of their days, in ford's own words (which ironically sounds like a marriage to me either way so tough shit ford)
#Stancest#because having ford be like “romance? pfff who needs ROMANCE and SETTLING DOWN when i could be a BIG SHOT”#then writing “wonder what my estranged brother who i refuse to talk to or contact in years and i totally hate rn is doing rn...”#is well#what can i say other than the implications is the implications (highly doubt its on purpose but lmao)#ford writing “(hopefully that hes not doing anything like settling down or anything after i just mentioned that for myself)”#is in the next page hashtag trust me guys#“i prefer the road less traveled anyway” oh my god we get it youre WEIRD omfggg riverdale jughead ass#with repressed incestious desire we get it#jokes and shipping aside i think this is one of the stan twins vs dipper/mabel parallels thats VERY very well done#mabel and stan as their counterparts theter to reality and gets them to stop filtering their fears and desires through other peoples desires#and have them see things clearly for their own#is pretty good
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has anyone else noticed that archie, without jughead’s narrative is literally just a teenage boy? he doesn’t have the weight of the world on his shoulders, he’s not trying to save anyone and everyone, he’s not torn between girls and can actually make up his mind about what he wants and what he doesn’t want very easily. he’s just a regular teenager who acts like a teenager with teenage problems.
#jarchie#jughead jones#archie andrews#riverdale#rvd text#rvd narrative#i mentioned this last week but i think it's interesting to note how archie in particular behaves when jughead isn't narrating the story
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just got so emotional thinking about all the times that the local 24 hour diner was there for me when i needed her and so sad thinking about how now it’s only open breakfast and lunch hours 5 days a week
#i literally feel like jughead rn.#and i get that nobody wants to work at a diner at 4am i do.#but sometimes when its 4am and you need to get out of the fucking house it’s beautiful to have somewhere to go#not to mention that the teenagers no longer have anywhere they can go after 10pm… this is so sad
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Archie and gang by Emma Kubert
#emma kubert#archie#archie andrews#veronica lodge#betty cooper#jughead jones#archie comics#food tw#tw food#food cw#cw food#food#food mention
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i guess i should stay close to you, then.
"HUH, YEAH, YOU SHOULD? WHO ELSE IS GOING TO PUT UP WITH YOU?" jughead shrugged, glancing over at the other, as he bumped his shoulder against her own. weirdos should stick together or at least, that was how he saw it. was he saying that bree was weird? absolutely not, but she did get him more than most people did and right now, he didn't see that changing anytime soon. she wasn't fake like most people that he knew and that meant.. something. right? "but seriously, you should get a look at this book that i'm reading. it's pretty cool?" @xtinyslip
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which riverdale pairings do you think of the most?
hiram/archie veronica/archie kevin/archie veronica/betty veronica/cheryl veronica/reggie grundy/archie reggie/archie betty/archie betty/donna jughead/archie chicles archie. veronica. archie. archie. kevhead. jabitha. in that order, mostly. thanks, kevhead anon!
#actually this is probably outdated based on how quickly brethead concepts spring to mind when i get random asks#i just don't think of myself as a jughead shipper. and that's the most important thing. MY self-image#i need to just accept that i'm fujo for bret/jughead too. why not. whatever. whatever!!!!#what's accurate though is that i don't ship cheryl with anyone but veronica. archie/cheryl lavender marriage allowed of course#riverdale#hirarchie mention
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Pokemon: Boomer Humor
I love how their idea of Pokemon is “animal or thing with clothes”
#tumblr gold#archie comics#archie andrews#jughead jones#hot dog#pokemon#pkmn sv#pokemon scarlet and violet#direct title mention of pokemon violet#but like this is the most basic idea of pokemon#like the writer and artist half listened to their kid explain pokemon while they worked#betty and veronica#Betty and Veronica comics#Archie double digests
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"i didn't want to talk in front of archie and the others .... as it turns out, peabody had a lot to say. the bounty on your pal Archie, it's not just on him. it's on anyone who's with him or is helping him. which means there is a target on your back now too jughead. it's the same if he goes back to riverdale. archie's dad, archie's friends, everyone is at risk. which is why you got to cut him loose."
"im not just gonna ditch archie, mom! he's my best friend."
here's how j/archie can still win
#no more gunshots you guys gotta hear me out on this now😭😭#im laughing so much but this is good scene . anyway !!!!!!!!!!!#archie tells veronica that hes not alone before he leaves (but doesn't mention jug 🧐) he repeats that fact actually. and then#him and jughead walk and walk for days and archie tells jughead to go back#that he can handle himself and jughead is like nah bro... ur literally going to get yourself killed. ANNNDDD jughead saves his life again.#untying him in that farm. keeping him from making a big mistake like killing hiram. ough literally always looking out for him smh#shows up in toledo with his mom . hoping & expecting them to be safe and penny finds him and penny says no one is safe with archie#AND HE STILL DOESNT WANT TO LEAVE HIM. as he should. W friend.#but fuck. Still. his own mom is telling him to get rid of archie and archie ALREADY FEELS FUCKING BAD that he got so many people involved#and that he's putting people in danger and causing them stress and grief and pain etc etc#also he's overhearing this conversation#literallt went on a road trip alone together subtracting the car. that's a fanfic trope right there ok sorry i had to say it#jughead didn't have to come with him. he could have given him supplies directions instructions and sent him on his merry way and stayed bac#in ri//verdale but he was worried ab him#it's true and real and i'm embarrassed that i typed all this about riv//er dale
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AND FINALLY CAN I SAY. if god forbid jughead's memory was him smiling at betty the most annoying people you have ever met on twitter would talk about it meaning bughead is endgame until they're blue in the face. SO I'M ALLOWED. to say interesting you picked that specific scene with archie 🤨
#like there are a million scenes of jughead smiling. they even could have chosen one with fp or jellybean or anyone.#not tinhatting here i know its a fine line and there can be a million reasons and it means nothing but IM ALLOWED. to mention it#riverdale
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You’re Too Late to Be My First Love But You’ll Always Be My Favourite
“Jughead, you’re not gonna believe the trip I’ve had,” says an echoed voice in his head that is none other than Tabitha Tate. Finally, after so long.
He immediately sees her walk in, and rushes to hug her, cutting off her thoughts running in his head.
“Tabitha, you have no idea how much I missed you,” Jughead breathes.
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fandom: riverdale
ship: jughead x tabitha (jabitha)
taglist: @sapphicserpentqueen @jabithajates @jabitha-endgame @imreallytryinghelp (ask to be added or removed)
#layla writes#jughead jones#tabitha tate#mentioned betty cooper#jabitha#jabitha fic#jabithacentral#very negative to both betty and bughead#set after the toxic montage of bughead flash backs and it’s jughead telling Tabitha about it#cause riverdale is literally the show to show us something that could effect relationships and then not use it again#anyway just a nice conversation with a little bit of build up#beta-ed by charlie seriously this wouldn’t be the same
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Riverdale has an onscreen same sex incest kiss (Betty & Cheryl s6e4) ergo if spn came out NOW we could’ve gotten. You know
#they also have canon incest PREGNANCY but it is m/f so#but between Jason & Polly and Clifford & Penelope…#also the whole Betty-Jughead-FP-Alice situation was…y’know?#and this is not to mention Veronica & Hiram’s insane relationship#BASICALLY THEY SAID INCENSE with their whole chest. so
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Just finished all of Mark Waid's Archie and holy shit Audrey Mok, please draw Jughead forever he's perfect
#have i ever mentioned that I'm a massive Archie comics fan#and that Jughead Jones is one of my all time favourite characters#bar none#well now i have#archie comics#jughead jones
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Crossover episode! Which non Archie Comics property should Archie and his friends interact with?
If you ask me again, I'll probably say something different, because this doesn't feel like it would be final answer if my brain were working. However... Saltburn.
In essence, Saltburn is a great foil to Riverdale. It is like a set of fraternal twins who bear a strong resemblance. A crossover would provide some very interesting interactions that could potentially change the characters significantly.
They explore a lot of the same themes:
Jughead as an academic outsider vs. Oliver as an academic outsider
Archie as a typical guy's guy who harbors an oft-exploited hero complex vs. Felix (identical description, but my computer won't let me copy paste rn for some reason????)
Several characters as bastard children/half-children who get the cold shoulder vs. Farleigh, cousin and charity case, the son of a disgraced aristocrat
the theme of predatory people in power (Farleigh's mother seemingly getting groomed as a teenager, the Lolita book in the back of the lecture which was very intentional for reasons I won't explain unless asked because it's not relevant, the mobster heavily implied to be behind his girlfriend's untimely death, etc)
Homoeroticism
But they are also different in how they paint people. Everyone would be much worse or much better after a crossover episode, which is what I crave. It's psychological torture, a therapy session, and heightened drama all in one.
Felix is written to be full of intentional kindness and unintentional cruelty. His hero complex is strong, but his privilege made him unaware of his casual unkindness and misogyny. Like Archie, he seemingly exists to be an object of desire, but he is both oblivious and obliging about it. Archie would probably hate Felix, but Felix would love Archie- and maybe disarm him, as he is known to do.
Saltburn is a lot greyer, morally-speaking, and purposefully so. How often does a story make you feel bad for a family with ancestral wealth? Riverdale is very clear about who is good and who is bad. Sometimes people will act outside of their prescribed label, and you have some people (like Kevin) who constantly do stupid things but without malice, but Saltburn characters would leave you constantly guessing if they are showing you their entire deck or not (again, I should not to card game metaphors, but I keep doing it.)
Venetia is, like... an entire season of Riverdale. An acidic socialite with extreme self esteem issues, a borderline incestuous relationship and lots of family trauma. I'd love to see Veronica interact with her. She would give Venetia the attention she aches for and talk her out of purging every meal. Now, if you've seen Saltburn, you might be thinking 'but that's what Oliver did.' And you would be right, except his motivations were very different.
Since Oliver is written as a vampiric metaphor, imagine what actual supernatural elements would allow him to do.
In general, giving Riverdale characters access to people with 11 figure bank accounts would multiply everything by ten. The good can do more good, but imagine Hiram holed up in a gothic castle with aristocratic figures. Think of the far-reaching schemes he could concoct.
Saltburn has no qualms about scandal. The type of corruption we see in Riverdale is nothing compared to what we would see if Riverdale were written by Emerald Fennell. While Riverdale finds joy in gasps, the gasps it gets are due to silliness or huge plot twists. Saltburn has both- it never takes itself seriously, and has plenty of twists and turns- but it doesn't shy away from the depravity of human nature. Also, yeah, those scenes (iykyk,) which show a lack of politeness a platform like The CW demands of its stories.
Jughead and Betty would have a shit ton of story/investigation fodder. If nothing else, Saltburn (the location) contains what is essentially a museum about itself within its walls that they could dive into, but they would inevitably find a family secret to unravel. Maybe they'd solve Pamela's whole thing? If the crossover is during the events of the movie, they would absolutely change the outcome.
Farleigh is both a tragic, sensitive figure and a conniving opportunist. He and Cheryl would have some amazing conversations. He'd also absolutely hook up with Kevin, and probably somebody's parent. Depending on who else he interacts with, he might get some primo therapy as well.
The setting of Saltburn is such a great place to put serial killers, time travel, and witches. The setting of Riverdale is such a great place to put vengeful would-be heirs, cocaine-sniffing socialites, nudity, puke, social climbers, and death as a metaphor for sex.
The atmosphere in Riverdale would be thicker with tension. A sense that there is potentially sex or murder at the end of every interaction.
#anna i am sorry#also who wouldnt want to see riverdale yet the 2007 myspace treatment? imagine jughead's scene hair and Veronica’s juicy couture collection#great question anon#there is more but i didn't want to get too in the weeds about saltburn (both with spoilers and themes) because this is a riverdale blog and#it's also a new-ish movie#asks#saltburn spoilers#incest mention#ed mention#drug mention#vomit mention
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did i miss the monologue again?!
"OH, YEAH. HE TALKED.. A LOT, BUT.. MOST OF THEM USUALLY DO?" jughead hadn't been expecting to see her here anytime soon. he was still on his last year of college and yes, he had taken this job and working as an fbi assistant because it was what he did. it was what he had built most of his writing around and hey, he did have to say that it was good fucking research, wasn't it? what he hadn't expected, though? it was to run into his ex-girlfriend here or.. was that even a word to describe betty cooper? right now, he had no idea. "got most of it on tape, if you wanna watch? and there's popcorn too or maybe, i should.. ahem, go? yeah." @xtinyslip
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