#mclul clemence

[moonlightmcl]

also episode 3 MCLUL option: Actually, I thought you just worked at the café. And that you managed it more or less with Clemence… | for Hyun, gives +5 (it's the other option than you have used)

For some reason, my inbox notifications are messed up and while I did log in occasionally these years, I only see this message now, 6 years later.....!?

For context, I posted a wannabe guide to episode 3 of MCLUL in friggin 2018!!! I even forgot I posted it, when I read this I was so confused, like....?!

I think it will be a better idea to just delete my "guide". Not in the mood to edit it at all, there must be actual, proper guides to this episode by now haha

[theinsolentone]

Eheheh... I might have some ideas...🤭😏⬇️

[mcl-memes]

[otomelavenderhaze]

I feel nothing seeing Clemence finally treating Candy the way my gal deserves. 

[tetrakys]

I was annoyed Clemence told Candy she was an awful and abusive boss with her only with the purpose of making her grow up? Is that a fucking joke? Clemence didnt stand Candy because Clemence hate pretty and young women(in her description said it) Im okay with villians and evil motives, but say it!!! Dont make cheap excuses for it. Instead of complaint about real situations,BV makes excuses and light those situations.

Lol yeah when she said that thing I was rolling my eyes too. MAYBE at some point she really started to care for Candy and pushed her to improve herself, but at first she was definitely a jerk and quite clearly jealous. Maybe after that final conversation she started to learn from her mistakes 🙄

[mirror-alchemist]

And thus all is right in the universe again 👏👏👏

[incorrect-mclul-quotes]

Clemence: I’ve prepared a safety briefing for you to entirely ignore

Candy: Which I will

[oarley]

cougar town 🐆

[colombia-chan]

My Candy Love 30 Day Facts Final

So let's finish this 30-day fact challenge for my candy.

With her returning to Town for her final year of University Evie has had to meet not only old but new people. And while she doesn’t like some people due to the clashing of opinions and personalities. (Yeleen and Clemence) 

She has met some she has enjoyed, Morgan, Chani, Hyun, even her new teacher Rayan, though she swears if Rosa and Chani try to imply any romantic feeling towards the later two males she will shun them for a week... Or have Priya re-educate them as to why Evie very likely isn’t interested in them.

She plans to enjoy her final year of schooling and hopes to make amends with all her old friends and enemies. And help them out in any way she can.

But most importantly, she’s hoping to do things right this time around with Castiel.

Even if she knows, that things may not be as simple as they once were back in the day.

[gourmetfever]

gonna be real with y’all clemence is making me wanna give up the game. whats the point of playing if all i’m gonna do is waste 30 AP with her treating me like shit

[ri-jahney]

I’m still thinking about the arcs but, something I’m quite certain about is that all routes will have rivals again (Melody-Rayan, Yeleen-Castiel, Clemence-Hyun, Olivia-Priya, and prob Kim-Nath). I’m excited to see Priya’s arc even if she’s not my route bc I’m quite sure her ex will appear, and I’m dreading Hyun’s bc the idea of a boss being THAT much into her workers (and who knows how old is she) is not pleasing at all. If I have any other thought I’ll tell ^^

Someone brought up Priya’s ex on one of my posts but I didnt respond to it because I didnt get that far in MCLHS to know that she had an ex so i would need more information on that :(. Clemence is clewrly i to Hyun like her speech and bio.. wow. I dont know why she’s into him? Well maybe its because he’s really nice and she never met a man that was so nice to her so that probably caused it. Hyun is probably so oblivious to the situation too so that would make it even funnier.

Now the known rivals for the rest. Gosh I know Melody is going to be so annoying due to being a Nath girl and going through that there are alot of signs too already. Yeleen is probably going to cry when she finds out Candy was Castiel’s ex. And Kim? Kim is definitely going to be protective of Nath (still iffy about the fwb stuff that is going around)

[kurohabl]

"And this is how mafia works"

MCLUL OC: Lili Sinera

Me thinking about Lili putting her gun on Clemence's head while Rayan stand by her side was the inspiration behind this edit.

[otomelavenderhaze]

You know the best thing about Candy graduation? She can quit her job at the cozy bear, finally. Even if nowadays Clemence isn’t that bad anymore. 

[tetrakys]

Literally all my abusers have given me the "I did it to help you grow/toughen you up" excuse to try and justify their behavior whenever they were irrationally cruel towards me, so I don't think that's very nice of Beemoov to just add that like it's a normal explanation and expect us to accept it... especially since it clearly wasn't Clemence's actual motivation. It might be just me, but I think Beemoov is becoming more and more insensitive... And just giving little thought to their characters

Well, it’s not really new, when was Eldarya episode 14 out? Years ago. According to BV an half-assed excuse should’ve been enough after the potion debacle.

I’m not necessarily against Clemence not finding the light at the end of the year, some people just don’t redeem themselves and will keep finding bullshit excuses for their behaviour, the important thing is how Candy reacts to it. She won’t be seeing Clemence anymore (allegedly) so she didn’t have much vindication but at least she’s getting away from a toxic situation.

Hope you also got out of it safely in the end.

[capdiamant]

MCLUL HYUN & PRIYA’S ILLUSTRATIONS EP 2

J’ai pu lire un peu partout que beaucoup de joueuses avaient du mal à obtenir les illustrations de Priya et Hyun dans l’épisode 2. Après y avoir joué vous vous êtes rendues compte que vous n’obteniez les tenues de ces épisodes qu’après avoir raté l’illustration. Chronologiquement quelque chose ne va pas. Vous avez donc pensé que cela était un bug mais non. 

Ce n’est pas un bug, ni un problème d’affinités avec ces personnages ou de dialogues. L’astuce est plus vicieuse que ça. En effet ces illustrations ne peuvent être obtenues que si vous possédez les tenues et ces tenues  s’obtiennent AVANT ces illustrations uniquement si vous choisissez d’aller faire du shopping avec Alex et Rosa plutôt que de rencontrer Clémence. Pour obtenir ces illustrations il faut donc mettre la priorité sur la sortie avec Rosa et Alex. Vous devez dire que vous voulez prendre un rendez-vous avec Clémence plus tard. Si vous ne le faîtes pas, vous verrez Clémence en premier et vous n’aurez pas acheté les tenues à temps. Tout est une question de timing ;)

Faîtes circuler l’information s’il vous plait, beaucoup de joueuses ratent les illustrations à cause de ça ! Elles pensent que c’est un bug et ça n’en est pas un. Avec le nouveau système de PA faire des replays est devenu un luxe qu’on ne peut pas toutes se payer. Dommage. 

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IN ENGLISH / 

I read everywhere that many players had trouble getting the illustrations of Priya and Hyun in episode 2. After playing you think you don't get the outfits of these episodes in time, you get the outfits after having missed the illustration. So chronologically something is wrong. You thought it was a bug but no it wasn't.

This is not a bug, not a problem of affinities with these characters, not about the dialogues. The trick is more vicious. These images can only be obtained if you own the outfits, and these outfits are obtained BEFORE these illustrations only if you choose to go shopping with Alex and Rosa rather than meet Clémence. For these illustrations, you need to put the priority on the outing with Rosa and Alex. You must say that you make an appointment with Clemence later. If you don't do this, then you meet Clemence first and you'll not have bought the outfits in time. It's all about timing !

Please pass the information, many players miss the illustrations because of that! They think it's a bug and it's not a bug. With the new AP system, making replays has become too expensive and everyone cannot do it. Too bad. 

(sorry for my mistakes, my english needs to be improved.) 

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In this situation, I see Beemoov like this:

When beemoov thinks of all the money spent in replays for these fucking illustrations. Because we aren't used to this system. Before, we buying the right outfit and THEN we had the illustration. Systematically. In this episode if you don't buy your outfits at the right time you have no illustration. It's not about dialogues anymore. It annoys me, a lot. The episodes are more expensive and the illustrations are more difficult to have. WHYYYYYY? Everything is thought to make replays. And now we know that replays = bank. BEEMOOV... I THINK IT  WITH ALL MY HEART : GO TO HELL. THANKS

EDIT : 

Désolé mais après plusieurs recherches il semblerait qu'il y ait beaucoup de choses à faire pour obtenir certaines illustrations. Certaines les ont eu en faisant ça ou ça d'autres en faisant autre chose. C'est difficile de comprendre la bonne marche à suivre.

Apparemment ==> Les illustrations d'Ambre et Rayan sont les seules qui demandent un choix de tenue, donc soit l'une, soit l'autre. (mais certains disent que pour Hyun il faut aussi la tenue de travail). Les affinités jouent sur les illustrations de Priya (45% de l'o'm) et de Nathaniel (30%). MAIS certains disent aussi qu'il faut avoir Nath et Priya en CDC pour avoir leurs illustrations. Bien sûr les dialogues comptent également. Il faut faire les bons choix. J’ai pu lire qu’accueillir le responsable administratif ou Melody en premier avait une incidence selon ce qu’on choisissait. En gros pour Hyun les réponses avec Clémence ont sûrement une influence. Bref en gros... il y énormément de conditions à rassembler et rien n'est sûr. Je pense toujours qu'il n'y a pas de bug mais tout simplement que les chemins pour obtenir une illustration sont devenus très compliqués et dépendent de beaucoup de dialogues, en plus des tenues, des affinités et des coup de coeur. J’essayerais de publier une marche à suivre plus précise quand j’en saurais plus sur la manière exacte d’obtenir les illustrations car pour le moment on entend tout et son contraire. Ce que je peux vous conseiller c’est d’attendre qu’on en sache plus, dans l’état actuel des choses vous risquez de jouer sans obtenir aucune illu.  ________________________________________

Sorry but after many research it seems that there is a lot to do to get some illustrations. Some have done it by doing this or that, and others by doing something else. It's hard to understand the right thing to do. Apparently ==> The illustrations of Amber and Rayan are the only ones that require a choice of outfit, so either one or the other. (but some say that Hyun also needs work clothes). Affinities play on the illustrations of Priya (45% of o'm) and Nathaniel (30%). BUT some also say that you have to have Nath and Priya in crush to have their illustrations. Of course the dialogues also count. We must make the right choices. I  read that welcoming first the administrative manager or Melody  had an impact depending on what was chosen. Basically for Hyun the answers with Clemence surely have an influence. Anyway, there are a lot of conditions to collect and nothing is safe. I still think there is no bug but simply that the paths to get an illustration have become very complicated and depend on many dialogues and the outfits, affinities and crush. I would try to publish a more precise procedure when I know more about the exact way to get the illustrations because for now we hear everything and its opposite. What I can advise you is to wait until we know more, in the current state of things you risk playing without getting any illustrations.

[aokane-eldarya]

Hello :-) hope you're doing well . Just wanted to know what do you think about eldarya and mclul writing .

Hi anon :D

Thanks for you concern, I’m doing well enough (although my cat woke me at 4:30 am and did not let me go back to sleep and she pee on the dirty laundry…)

Sorry to answer you only now, I needed the time to think (and finish my opinion about Leiftan spin off). It might be a bit long lol

So, generally, for both games, I would say that, considering the conditions in which the episodes are made, the writers are doing well ; it could clearly be worse.

Chino has three games to manage and it’s just amazing that she manages to deal with so many stories at the same time and in record time. When you work in a professional way, it can become exhausting quickly, you have to think about everything, keep in mind each of your stories, the characters and background of each of your characters…

Not to mention the technical aspect and management of each team and each person who work on your projects.

My main problem with MCLU and Eldarya comes from the means that are given to the teams.

I really feel they do not have enough time to go deeper, to do more research. Normally, when you write, it is best to let your text rest, not to touch it for a while. (personally, when it comes to my novels, I do not touch for a month after finishing the first draft) 

Then you read it again with a new look, you correct, you rewrite. Then you confide it to several beta readers (I usually give them one month delay for a novel) and then you read it again, you help yourself with the advice of beta readers to eventually correct the content, then the form and the style.

For an otome, you must also think of all the graphic aspect, the appearance of the illustrations.

The creation here seems to depend on a calendar and the availability of the translators, whereas it should be the opposite. I’m not saying that they have to take all the time they want, but that the time should be calculated more accurately.

For MCLU :

- My first problem is the presence of Hyun and Rayan. Now, I understand better for Hyun who seems to me to be a bit extreme in his feelings and who is hasty in my opinion (it reminds me of one of my ex who thought I was the woman of his life when we were a couple for only a few days ), so, it’s ok. For Rayan, I really love him, I think he’s really interesting, he’s definitively my crush, but I don’t understand why some passages have been put in place even when you have a low LoM. You can not use the argument that it’s her soulmate, like Leiftan. And it’s quite paradoxical, because for certain passages, our choices are perfectly taken into account and we are not confronted with certain scenes.

- I also have a problem with Priya, who does not have the same place, it seems to me, as the other crushes. We still have trouble knowing where we go with her. We have learned some interesting things about her past, we also know that she will rather enjoy the life. Maybe with Priya it will be to convince her, to reassure her about being in a serious relationship. It’s difficult to know at the moment and the fact that she has that perfect and Mary-Sue side is not helping her for the moment.

- I really love how Nath is writing for the moment. I know from experience that when you love a character, it will be easier to write it and to write it well. That does not mean that we can not write well a character we love less, it only means that it will take a little more time and energy. Chino said Nath is her favorite and it shows in my opinion. She has a predilection for tortured characters.

- Castiel is also a character that I appreciate. During those four years, he really became a more mature adult, he kept what made his charm when he was younger, while working on his flaws. I’m still waiting a little, but for the moment, it seems to me to be well written.

- There are other characters I like the way they are written at each of their appearances, like Kim or Amber, even Yeleen and I love Chani with all my heart

- Even though I do not like her, Melody seems to have more to show than in HSL, so I’m a little intrigued.

- I do not really have an opinion about Alexy, Rosa, Morgan, Nina … I still can not understand how they are written, especially Rosa and Alexy. Unlike Castiel and Nath, I can not see how they have evolved and become who they are today. So wait and see.

- I do not really like Clemence’s writing, too caricatural for me for the moment.

- About Candy… I have mixed feelings. Sometimes I love how she thinks and reacts, sometimes I just wonder where she put her brain. I love that we can have so much access to her thoughts. I know that some people do not like it because of the AP system or because some of her thoughts could be embarrassing to players who want a more malleable character. I have to admit I’d like her to have more questions, but maybe because I’m a very introverted person myself and I’m constantly thinking, having a lot of questions in my mind.

- Regarding the plot, there may be some clichés, but I do not think that’s a problem. Clichés are good too ! I am not asking an author to give me something that is necessarily original and never seen. I first want my emotions to be jostled. Sometimes laugh, sometimes dream, sometimes cry.

- There are scripting facilities especially concerning Candy’s studies. This point is delicate, especially because it is an otome. There are people who want more, others who want less … It’s complicated. That said, I think that some things could be avoided, even when we do not want to develop too much.

That’s all that comes to me about writing MCLU right now, actually.

For Eldarya :

- I really, really love Eldarya, but my main problem is the lore. I want more. I want so much more. I really feel that this is the most damaging to the game and gives the impression to some players that the game has problems of inconsistency and misunderstanding. But again, it’s really difficult, because there are a lot of players who do not care, who do not want more lore, more explanations and just want the plot to advance, again and still, who do not want to take the time to observe the world in which Erika evolves. And the most incredible is that these same players are able to blame problems of inconsistency ! And, of course, there is this word limit problem. This is really a problem for me, because it forces writers to get to the point, to give the maximum, but with the minimum.

- The way our character is written is really correct for me, but I would just like her to have a lot more questions about the world around her. Simply because it makes sense to do it in an unknown world !

It’s a personal taste, but I love her sexual freedom, the fact that her relationship starts this way. Because it’s really, really pleasant to be able to play, in an otome, a character who has the same sexuality as you. In most of the otome games I’ve played, the character does not have that freedom, she’s either uncomfortable or completely ignorant. I can deal with this, because some people work that way in real life, but when it happens again and again, it becomes very frustrating.

But, I still have a problem with the way in which the relationship is presented.

For Leiftan, it’s completely perfect. It’s from the beginning that they get closer slowly, Leiftan is really adorable, he never rush her when he loves her from the beginning. And the beginning, it means several months, almost half a year ! And considering this, considering the link that unites them, I just find that their relationship is fantastic. This is the only one of the relationships where Leiftan really tells her “I love you” and not in a roundabout way and retracting, like Nevra for example. And we really have the choice to say “I love you” too and it’s so fucking amazing because it’s so natural! I love them, I love their relationship !

 And then there are the chiefs of the guard. The problem is that the beginning of the relationship was not as idyllic with them and that there were problems, they did not really respect her when she arrived and for a moment, and they have even betrayed one of the worst ways possible. They stole his earthly life!

So, the relationship with them sounds a little … weird.

Valkyon is pretty much ok, because for the moment, the beginning of their relationship was mostly focused on the physical aspect, not yet sentimental. So … ok.

For Nevra and Ezarel, it’s clearly more weird in my opinion. It’s rushed. They are there, animated by the passion of love and you do not understand just why, how it happened so quickly. Not even three months ago, they forced her to drink a potion to erase her from her family’s memory, and now it’s almost as if Nevra is going to ask her to marry him, to take his example.

The reason is simple, it is to try to put the three guys at about the same level as Leiftan (even if Leiftan remains favored). But it still weird.

- I am totally in love with the way Leiftan is written. I. Love. Him.

- There are other characters I like the way they are written, like Chrome, Ewelein, Camera, Keroshane…

- About Ezarel, Valkyon et Nevra… I don’t really know. I always had a little trouble with their personality. They bother me a little, but I hope their arcs will make them more interesting.

- I’m really, really intrigued by Lance.

- Miiko was written a little awkwardly for me, the aspects of her personality were not presented in a balanced way

- I do not really have an opinion about writing other characters.

- And finally, about the plot, I really love it, i’m really interesting, passionate about this, I can spend hours thinking about theories, thinking about all the details, doing research… I want a library with a list of info unlocked for each episode.