#marie de chevreuse

[laferelady]

“ La femme est sacrée; la femme qu'on aime est sainte. ”

- Alexandre Dumas

[edoutft]

august 1621

[gellavonhamster]

random BBC Musketeers things that I think about a lot:

the Three Inseparables know Constance before they know d'Artagnan. She and Athos know each other as of 1x01 (and by extension, it's more likely than not she knows the other two), she knows where to find them, they know where she lives, she cares about Athos enough to risk her life to save him. She's never just a girlfriend of one of them, she's their friend, has been their friend before she and d'Artagnan got together, before he even came to Paris

Porthos being clearly inspired by Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, from his parents being an enslaved Black woman called Marie-Cessette and a white nobleman to eventually becoming general of the French army

Aramis being raised in a brothel immediately explains a lot about him, from using sex as means to an end - seducing Marguerite to stay close to his son, finding a patroness for money (which Porthos also does, encouraged by Aramis, but ends up actually falling in love with Alice), because, despite being the "romantic hero type", he wasn't raised with the idea that sex has to happen only for love or attraction, he always saw it as something that could be means of survival, to being always gallant and courteous with women because he grew up among - was raised by! - the women who were looked down upon by the society and clearly had seen them mistreated by many men, and wouldn't want to be like those men

Aramis seems like the show's stand-in for Buckingham until he becomes the stand-in for Mazarin

between the Duchesse de Chevreuse and Sylvie Bodaire, it seems like Athos is bound to get together with a political activist who has had some sort of fling with Aramis. I imagine the child Sylvie's pregnant with by the end of s3 is a boy and they name him Raoul. (And because this is a happier universe, this Raoul doesn't get himself killed on purpose)

[thorin-is-a-cuddler]

Can we talk about the fact that Marie de Chevreuse apparently crossdressed a lot for Aramis?

[labuenosairesfrancaise]

Hôtel de Chevreuse (demolished)

The Hôtel de Chevreuse was constructed in 1660 for Marie de Rohan, Duchess of Chevreuse, by the architect Pierre Le Muet,[2] whose designs were engraved by Jean Marot and published in the Grand Marot in 1686.[3] Le Muet's hôtel was in the traditional French style, between court and garden.

This time I'm sharing just a shell with some docorated salons, so you can decide what you want them to be. I also inluded the floorplans I followed, which you can find in wikipedia :)

You will need the usual cc (TheKim07, SYB, Felixandre, Harrie, Anne, Stereo, TGS, among others).

It'll work in a 50x40 lot, and if you use a bigger lot, you will be able to fit the garden. 

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(Early access: 10-12-2023)

[jadedbirch]

As my lovely wife @zoi-no-miko said "We must feed the source of our marriage!"

And so, I bring you my sacrifice and review of the OTHER 2023 The Three Musketeers movie, compliments of the UK. And this one has a Black d'Artagnan! Unfortunately it also has a 1.8/10 IMDB rating 🤣

Ramblings and review under the cut!

Having watched this 94 minute "masterpiece" I must start by saying, this is not an adaptation of the Dumas novel, it's an adaptation of the 1993 Disney version of The Three Musketeers. So, all the best parts are lifted straight out of the Disney movie, including direct lines of dialogue, and the best action sequences. Le sigh.

The plot is also quite similar. The Cardinal plots to have the young king assassinated, and to accomplish this, he has an elaborate plot to disband the musketeers and implicate them in the murder. A one eyed Rochefort and a comely Indian Milady are his co-cosprators.

Richelieu, who I must keep reminding everyone was in his late 30s during this time historically, now looks like this:

And the musketeers, delightful assholes that they are, look like this:

That's right. They are so poor, they can't even afford pants! Just kidding, but for Reasons, they spend a fairly long scene pantless, and require the help of "Madam Chevreuse" (an homage to Marie de Rohan) and "Madam Coquenard" (an homage to Porthos' wife), who were a delightful little invention that I rather appreciated. Especially since Porthos had to sleep with them both in exchange for their help 🤭👌🏻.

Unfortunately, the rest of the movie is fairly Meh. Unlike The Fourth Musketeer, which took place entirely indoors, this one does its low budget business entirely in some "forest" which looks a lot like a local park. There are also about 11 extras who have to cover their faces in every scene so that they can be killed over and over again. The dialogue is really stilted, d'Artagnan is as breathtakingly dumb as the one in The Fourth Musketeer, and the pacing is completely off, causing surprisingly dull periods to pass that make the movie feel a lot longer than it is.

In a plot device that is truly inspiring in its stupidity, people go around saying things like "Have you seen this symbol ⚜️? Take a good look at it ⚜️⚜️" as if all of France isn't literally covered in ⚜️⚜️⚜️, including the embellishments around d'Artagnan's own neck. At least they use proper French currency in this one.

I think the biggest problem the movie has is that it fails to commit to a genre, going from slapstick comedy to taking itself way too seriously within minutes.

So, in summary, this fails spectacularly as both an adaptation of the book AND as an adaptation of the Disney movie. The casting of the 3 assholes was actually pretty good and it did have some fun moments, but all of them were plagiarized so I can't really give them points for it. It's really disappointing that with all the juicy goodness that both sources of material have to offer, the result is this lackluster and forgettable experience.

Grade: I have to give it an F for originality, and as an adaptation of the Disney movie it gets a C+.

[artthatgivesmefeelings]

Diego Velázquez (Spanish, 1599-1660) The Lady with a Fan, ca. 1640 The Wallace Collection As court painter to King Philip IV of Spain, Diego Velázquez created consummate portraits of the Spanish royal family and the high nobility. The Lady with a Fan is one of his most famous and enigmatic portraits. Long believed to represent a Spanish lady, recent studies have suggested that the sitter may have been French and not Spanish. The only Frenchwoman known to have been painted by Velázquez was Marie de Rohan Duchess of Chevreuse, intimate friend of the Spanish-born Queen of France, Anne of Austria. In the Devonshire Collection at Chatsworth is another portrait of the same woman, probably slightly younger, in a much more modest pose and clearly Spanish dress.

[carloskaplan]

Marie de Rohan, duquesa de Chevreuse.  Retratada por Claude

[xian-moriarty]

CALENDRIER DE L'AVENT : 24 (ou peut-être plus) femmes utilisables comme personnages féminin dans de récits de cape et d'épée se déroulant sous le règne de Louis XIII.

5 - Vous la connaissez sans la connaitre. C'est la base de Milady de Winter de Dumas. Anglaise. Elle épouse son second mari (jeune) contre l'avis de son père. A une grande influence et complote à la cours de Charles Ier. Elle est notre équivalent de la duchesse de Chevreuse.

[wingsofhcpe]

and seeing as d'Artagnan sold the horse in the beginning of the book... well.

Also I love how I hadn't read the book in a while and then I rewatched the show and decided to reread it, and while being absolutely bewitched by Santiago Cabrera and his golden retriever energy, I'd completely forgotten that book!Aramis is actually a full-on feral mean murder gremlin and half a bad day away from murdering everyone in Paris and throwing a party over their dead bodies.

What the show did get right about him, however, is that he's a simp (just for Marie de Chevreuse instead of the queen, when it comes to the book).

Book D’Artagnan: I’m not “showing signs of mental illness”

Book D’Artagnan: I’m hiding them really well actually everyone thinks I act really normal

Book D’Artagnan: I think. I’m pretty sure

[edoutft]

zzz

[widevibratobitch]

Ship game!

tagged by beloved auntie @vera-dauriac ! thank you <33 and as always, because i am incapable of just giving a short simple answer... lets go

OTP:

Carlos/Rodrigo AND Rodrigo/Philip. Putting them both because they need each other to reach their full potential.

Ship that you love but your friends don't (and that's ok):

uhhhh it's honestly hard to think of one that i wouldn't share with any friend at all

Wholesome ship:

it used to be Carlos/Rodrigo but then i started dissecting them more and turns out there's more codependency and manipulation than you see at first glance so I'll say uhhhh Tenth Doctor/Rose Tyler? they have their own issues but. yknow. nothing compared to opera couples.

Comfort ship:

Snufkin/Moomin ig? it's special. it's close to my heart more because of what it symbolises than because i want those two to fuck (i do NOT actually want them to fuck at all, dear god, i don't even want to think about it). it's still very melancholy and regret-tinged. i feel like the 'comfort' questions don't rly apply to me cause what i love in fiction above all else is tragedy, unhappy endings, toxicity, generally Bad Things. the way i like to engage in media is weeping tears of genuine anguish over my beloved doomed characters/ships so there's not much space for true, long-lasting comfort.

maybe Eddie/Chrissy from Stranger Things too? cultivating a healthy relationship with another person while battling an ED is not easy to say the least (maybe even impossible, at least to me) so yeah, maybe in an AU focused on her recovery they could be a comfort ship to me.

Crack ship:

Duke of Alba/father Domingo

Ship that should be popular but isn't:

Athos/Aramis. there, I said it. I feel like most people in the 3M fandom take the easy way out with Athos/d'Artagnan and Aramis/Porthos (which I'm a huge fan of in the BBC series, but just cannot see it happening in the Dumas verse) and while I can understand that, I genuinely think Athos/Aramis makes SO much more sense (plus makes a perfect OT3 with Mme de Chevreuse!!!).

Opposites attract ship:

Snufkin/Moomin, Eddie/Chrissy (maybe Carlos/Rodrigo too? they're a bit more complicated than just "opposites attract" to me tho)

Canon ship:

Ten/Rose and Aramis/Marie de Chevreuse) (what can I say, I'm a huge fan of the divorce arc <33 she doesn't even physically appear in the first book and they have 1,5 scene together throughout the entire trilogy - but the contrast between the way Aramis acts about her in 3M vs the cruel, horrible behaviour he exhibits towards her in VDB + her trying her best to ensure he gets executed in the end... it does things to me <333)

First ship:

Don Giovanni/Leporello. well, I used to halfheartedly ship others before but this was the first ship that I truly went INSANE about when I was like 13.

Cursed ship:

again. Alba/Domingo.

tagging: @revedebeatrice @smile-at-the-stars @notyouraveragejulie @carlodivarga-s @donnaimmaculata @bozda-dom @verdiesque @girlscarpia have fun! or don't...... 👉👈

[kaantt]

Tagged by @garnetrena thanks !!

Rules: list the first line of your last 10 (posted) fics and see if there's a pattern!

Sentinelles (Les Trois Mousquetaires, Aramis/Original Character, M)

Âmes sœurs.

La volupté de l'honneur (Les Trois Mousquetaires, Athos Comte de la Fère/Marie de Rohan Duchesse de Chevreuse, T)

Quand le mousquetaire Athos, Comte de La Fère, avait abandonné l’idée de l'amour, il l'avait fait en pleine et entière conscience des moqueries que ce choix de vie allait faire pleuvoir sur ses épaules encore jeunes mais déjà fatiguées par la discipline et la mélancolie.

Crimes Célèbres (Les Trois Mousquetaires, Aramis/Original Character & Original Character/Original Character, T)

Mes chers enfants, ce que je vous écris aujourd’hui doit, pour toujours, demeurer entre nous.

La maîtresse abandonnée (Kaamelott, Ygerne & Uther Pendragon, G)

Si on avait dit à la petite princesse Ygerne de Tintagel qu'elle allait un jour épouser le roi de toute la Bretagne elle aurait simplement souri.

Arthur, roi de Bretagne - Anthologie établie par Eugène Molozay (Kaamelott, Arthur Pendragon/Venec, G)

« Le roi Arthur, bien que nous ayons des preuves historiques de l'existence d'un personnage semblable à celui décrit dans les récits de chevalerie du Moyen-Âge et dans les films et séries de notre époque contemporaine, reste un homme de fiction.

Le Bon, la Brute et le Friand (Kaamelott, Multiple ships, G)

Fic co-écrite avec @kabbal, je mets donc la première phrase du chapitre que j'ai écrit.

Bordel.

La belle inconnue (Kaamelott, Arthur Pendragon/Guenièvre, M)

Quand ses lèvres se posent sur la peau blanche et crémeuse du cou de son épouse retrouvée il ne peut plus penser à autre chose qu'à leurs corps enlacés sur une épaisse fourrure dans l'intimité de leur tente.

La faute à Nanterre (Les Misérables, Enjolras/Grantaire, T)

En se réveillant ce matin pour aller, comme à son habitude, prendre un café sans sucre mais avec un nuage de lait au Petit Saint-Benoît, Grantaire a eu l'étrange impression qu'il n'allait pas passer une bonne journée.

Beautiful wonder (Desperate Housewives, Bree Van de Kamp/Gabrielle Solis, T)

To fall in love with someone was one thing.

Sleeping pill (House MD, Gregory House/James Wilson, T)

The doctor Gregory House was always the best at everything he did.

Je tagge @aramielles et @kabbal

[diana9241livejournalcom]

I read Lucy jago's novel, one of the few novel about Stuarts to be translated in Italian, and it's about the Overbury plot and Anne Turner' involment in that. Good but... too Mary Suesque to be a really good novel. George had a slight mute cameo at the end.

there is the doulogy about Marie de Rohan, duchess of Chevreuse by Juliette Benzoni who will be adapted in a French tv series. yes, george will play a significant role in the first book so... first episodes, and he will be play by Freddie Dennis ( yes, the bloke from the Bridgerton spinn off ), sadly I never read the novels so I don't know how George will be portayed but Juliette was a great novellist, and very accurate

George Villiers 1st Duke of Buckingham in Fiction - a partial summary

CW: discussions of biphobia and homophobia in historical fiction and current historiography.

Feeling both inspired and outraged in equal measure by the upcoming Mary&George series, and having been fascinated with this remarkable man since forever, I have decided to post this partial overview of portrayals of George in fiction. The ones in bold are the ones I have read. Feel free to add to the list.

The Three Musketeers, Alexandre Dumas 

The Honey and The Sting, Elizabeth Freemantle 

My Queen My Love, E.M Vidal 

Cavalier Queen, Fiona Mountain 

The Dangerous Kingdom Of Love, Neil Blackmore 

The Fallen Angel, Tracy Borman

Wife Of Great Buckingham, Hilda Lewis

Darling Of Kings, P J Womack

The Queens Dwarf, Ella March Chase

The Smallest Man, Frances Owen

The Spanish Match, Brennan Purcell

Captain Alatriste, Arturo Pérez-Reverte

The Cardinal and The Queen, Evelyn Anthony 

Earthly Joys, Philippa Gregory

Myself My Enemy, Jean Plaidy

Charles The King, Evelyn Anthony 

The Young And Lonely King, Jane Lane

The Fortunes Of Nigel, Walter Scott 

The Crowned Lovers, E Barrington

The Minion, Raphael Sabiniti 

The Murder In The Tower, Jean Plaidy 

A Net For Small Fishes, Lucy Jago 

The Arm and the Darkness, Taylor Caldwell

Les Gloires et les perils (?), Robert Merle

And a few I’m not so sure about where George is mentioned in passing: . 

Viper Wine, Hermionie Eyre

John Saturnalls Feast, Lawrence Norfolk 

Rebels and traitors, Lindsay Davis

The Assassin, Ronald Blythe 

Some observations, in no particular order:

Novels set mostly in James reign often have George as a rival to Robert Carr and will attempt to foreshadow how much worse he will be compared to Carr.

The ones that feature Henrietta Maria as Protagonist or at least POV character, where George is normally a baddie trying to sabotage HM and Charles I's relationship, and his death is often portrayed as some sort of salvation for HM. In these books George will often be lamed for things which were IRL Charles's fault such as the expulsion of HMs French household in 1626.

Three Musketeers is practically a category in its own right due to all the film/tv adaptions but has had relatively few clones or imitators in English which is something of a surprise

George is only a protagonist in one of these books (Darling of Kings, P J Womack) in the rest he's a cameo or a villain

Rumours that I suspect authors know is nonsense are repeated verbatim such as Tracy Borman's baseless speculation about G offing the Manners brothers, king James, and his rumoured involvement with the occult.

Georges relationships with James and Charles respectively are mentioned but not meaningfully explored. neither are any other personal relationships he had.

The insights and shifts in terms of post 1970s revisionist and post revisionist scholarship esp. Roger Lockyer's bio of George have not found their way into any fiction set in this era. Georges capability as an administrator and manager of patronage is more often than not totally absent.

the general view of George and why he's often shown in such a negative light is pretty much "well, he was willing to god knows what with that dirty old man James; who knows what other depravities he was capable of" and its female authors who really seem to lean into this, which I find fascinating and disturbing.

[laferelady]

Aramis & Marie de Chevreuse - Три Мушкетера, 2013 / Мушкетеры двадцать лет спустя, 1992