#manson biopic

[merrilark]

Ik I've already said it but, MAN, biographies are hard. I picked up a Steve McQueen bio again, hope to finish before the year is up, and it's just so hard to keep reading because it's so sad, and it's not even trying to be.

I've loved McQueen's shows and films for years. He's definitely a nostalgic figure for me, since I used to watch Wanted: Dead or Alive all the time with my dad and grandpa when I was a kid. I have an undeniable soft spot for him despite the fact that now, as an adult, I fully acknowledge he was a classic old Hollywood asshole. Serial infidelity, abuse, exploding with toxic masculinity and ego that made him a terror on and off set, selfishness, always wanting to be the best in the room, etc. etc. As far as bad behavior goes, he's really nothing new in Hollywood where having an inflated ego seems to be a prerequisite for actors and directors alike, but it is understandably disappointing from the POV of someone who has loved his work since childhood. Don't meet research your heroes, yada yada.

But—and absolutely this is not excusing him—he makes me so sad. He was dealt a bad hand from the start with a father who walked out and a mother who he loved but never showed him real affection and carelessly exposed him to all kinds of abuse at her own hands and at the hands of her boyfriends. I won't get all into it, but the things this guy went through at such a young age and recalls with such flippancy or even pride is insane. He grew from a troubled, lost kid into a troubled, angry, lost man who found it almost impossible to trust anyone, burning down relationships and hurting others seemingly before he could be hurt himself. There are so many quotes from people who knew him best, especially his first wife, that strongly point to serious mental health problems and trauma that simply were not or could not have been properly addressed in the '30s-'80s. Mix it all up with a hefty dose of toxic masculinity and stigmas around mental illness and you have a cocktail for disaster. It's really no wonder he was the way he was; he didn't have the proper tools to manage his mental health and even if he did, he couldn't have because that would have ruined his career and image (how dare men feel things!).

He wasn't a very good man, but I feel for him. His life was a short rollercoaster of tragedy from the day he was born to the day he died at 50, and reads like one long scream for help that no one seemed to notice or look at too closely, including McQueen himself.

[lizardsfromspace]

Was there ever a news event in our lifetimes that the media fumbled more aggressively than Columbine. They genuinely got every single detail wrong

From reporting that they killed someone for saying she believed in God (a different girl who said she did survived) to not reporting that they sought out students of color while yelling racial slurs - on Hitler's birthday & a day after the anniversary of OKC and Waco - while promoting the idea that you have to watch out for loner bullied nerds. Even though later research shows that the shooters were, in fact, bullies themselves, who had a wide social circle, and they were, you know, Nazis motivated by racism and not the video game Doom (1993).

It's a generational fuck-up, the GOAT of bad reporting bc it's still with us. The narrative of persecution after "she said yes" is a huge reason the evangelical right is like how it is today (they made a biopic that uncritically repeated it just a couple years ago!) & they still push the idea that it's primarily victims who do that sort of thing and not aggressors & people still shared that stupid video of Marilyn Manson saying he'd "listen" until a couple years ago (though the shooters being abusive Nazi creeps would uh, not diminish Marilyn Manson's desire to befriend them, I feel)

[timefadesaway]

they will get timothee chalamet to play bob dylan in the beatles biopics as well like how they got that guy who played charles manson in once upon a time in hollywood to play charles manson in mindhunter

[simply-sharon-tate]

In 2016, Kate Bosworth and Michael Polish purchased the film rights to Greg King’s book, ‘Sharon Tate and The Manson Murders.’

In 2018, she announced on Instagram that they would be making a film simply titled ‘Tate.’ The film would focus on Sharon’s life, and Sharon’s sister Debra would be a producer. Subsequent IG posts and articles implied that production was imminent, if not already underway.

Multiple IG fan pages said that they had DM conversations with Polish in which he claimed the film was finished and a trailer would drop by Thanksgiving 2018. I had one DM conversation with Polish which basically consisted of him sending me an article criticizing Quentin Tarantino’s “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” which hadn’t been filmed yet. It had only been announced and plot details were still being kept secret.

By 2019, Bosworth and Polish stopped talking about the film altogether. Debra Tate made a few cryptic statements on her social media in which she said she didn’t know what was happening with the film.

In 2021, he was sued by art director Jack Renner who alleged he was assaulted by the director during the filming of “Bring On The Dancing Horses” in 2020. The suit also said that Bosworth witnessed the alleged assault and screamed at Renner’s wife, the COVID coordinator on the project, when she and her husband were leaving the set.

In her 2022 court documents, Bosworth said that she and Polish separated in 2021. Their divorce was finalized this year.

Since 2019, people have asked Bosworth about the state of ‘Tate’ on her IG page on a semi regular basis—and never received any reply.

Today I received a DM from her on IG finally confirming what I’ve believed for over three years, the biopic is not happening.

You can follow my Instagram at:

Instagram.com/SimplySharonTate

[fly-chicken]

Im here today to talk to you about one of my special interests;

Señor Danny Trejó

This man has lived such a life at age 79; and is still kicking, but I think people don’t really appreciate all this man has been through to be who he is. I genuinely believe his biopic needs to be made bc oh my goodness.

CW: drug usage, incarceration experiences, tough home life, murder, stabbing, death penalty, violence (feel free to lmk more and I’ll add as pointed out)

Also to note; this is a historical summary. Aka the facts with as little of my opinion as I can manage (while considering that I do have a bias), I do not condone the violent acts mentioned. That being said I do sympathize with many actions being a product of circumstance and that this is a man trying to own his past while using his present to make a better future for himself and others. And THAT is why I respect the hell out of him

Ok let’s start this; spoiler alert I look like

By the end

Ok so Im gonna have to categorize this baby; a note, most of this is from his Wikipedia page and subsequent cited sources

Personal

-was born in (1944) as the child of an extramarital affair; his mothers husband was away fighting in WW2 at the time

-He’s been a fan of the LA Rams since their early days (1946) and some of his earliest memories are from sneaking into games as a child

-he fled LA with his family to Texas as a small child bc his father was wanted for stabbing someone. His father turned himself in a year after moving back to LA

-he purchased his childhood home and as of his 2020 biopic, still intermittently lives in it.

-he completed his high school diploma during his stay at Soledad correctional facility (likely during his time in solitary)

-among his many jobs between prison and film; Trejo helped construct the Cinerama Dome in California (now where many of his films have been screened at today) with a construction company as a labourer, a gardener and part time owner of a lawn company

-Trejo has been quoted to still have fears that his life is all just been a dream and that ‘hell wake up in prison with someone urging him to “go get some chow”

-Trejo has been a contributor to several books relating to prison life

-trejo published a cookbook in 2020 and his memoir in 2021

-As of 2020 Trejo owns 8 restaurants; including a taco restaurant, a cantina and a coffee and donut shop. His rainbow cauliflower tacos made the LA times fav recipes of 2017

-He has been married and divorced 4x with 3 children (however he helped raise 2 additional children with his second wife)

-Trejo is a registered Democrat

-battled liver cancer in 2010, moved to be closer to his mom in 2011. She passed while filming the Muppets most wanted in 2013. Although sad, Trejo recalls he didn’t truly break down until Kermit offered his apologies in character (due to his macho personality)

-In 2019 Trejo witnessed a car accident and helped rescue a small ychild from that very wreckage (trapped in the car seat in an overturned SUV)

Prison

-was first arrested at age 10, first incarcerated at age 12 at Eastlake Juvenile Hall

-was in various prisons within the California prison system from 1956-1969 (conflicting accounts say one term may have been till ‘72)

-notable stints include; three years at Camp Glen Rockey in San Dimas for stabbing a sailor in the face with broken glass, a stint in Los Angeles County in 1961 where he met Charles Manson (who Trejo describes as a “dirty, greasy, scrawny white boy” who was an allegedly talented hypnotist), Soledad in 1968 where he hit a guard with a rock during a prison riot on Cinco de Mayo. Due to this he was sent to solitary confinement and faced capital charges and the death penalty. He also completed the 12 step program at this time.

-His most memorable stint was in San Quentin in 1966; his heron use was exacerbated here. Here he was a debt collector and drug dealer; often engaging and witnessing acts of violence and occasional murder. He also picked up boxing in this stint and became both a champion of the lightweight and welterweight divisions throughout his other prison experiences.

-his final prison stint was five years of a ten year sentence, most commonly believed to have ended in 1969 (aged 25)

-he was known as the gossip queen of his cell block in several prisons

Drug Usage and Recovery

- Trejo had been using Marijuana since age 8, heron by age 12, and cocaine by age 13; all introduced by his uncle Gilbert

-Trejo overdosed on first heron fix (also under his uncle’s supervision)

- participated in his first drug deal at age 7

-completed the 12 step program during his time in solitary at Soledad. He has been quoted being sober since completing this program, and is celebrating 54 years in recovery

- Trejo became a substance abuse counsellor in 1973, and is still actively working to help substance abuse cases today

-in the 1980s Trejo worked in Western Pacific Med Corp, assisting with the establishment and operation of sober living houses. He also lived in the houses at this time

-He was called to help assist with the cocaine usage amongst teenagers on the set of Runaway Train (1985)

-Trejos work as an actor was meant to help further his work as a rehabilitation counsellor and he claimed it helped him as clients would recognize him as an actor

-While filming scenes at San Quentin for Blood In, Blood Out; trejo helped a prisoner (Mario Castillo) through the 12 step program and remained in touch after his release. Today him and Mario remain great friends and both speak around the country in both juvenile detention centres as well as rehabilitation centres about their experiences

Film

-his character Machete was created FOR the Spy Kids film

-the creator of the Spy Kids franchise is his second cousin

-Danny originally got into acting after meeting a boy in a sober living house who explained he worked a day job as an extra to make 50$ a day (in 1980); between the “easy money”, availability with his schedule and publicity he could provide to the Western Living House Org, Danny decided to find an agent for background rolls

-After being asked to help with cocaine issues on the set of Runaway Train, Trejo was recognized by the screenplay writer, Edward Bunker. Bunker has been a fellow inmate with Trejo in San Quentin and was also a fan of his boxing work. Bunker helped hire Trejo as a boxing trainer on the film and negotiated Trejos pay to be closer to ~$330 a day, due to his additional help on set and general knowledge/experience

-Bunker also helped land Trejo a role as a background actor in the prison scenes in Runaway

-Penitentiary 3 (1987) was his first billed role, during which he met one of the members of the Galbino crime family (one of the 5 mafia families in New York)

-in 1991 Trejo turned down a role offered by Edward James Olmos due to a call from the don of the Mexican Mafia advising him to take a role in Blood In, Blood Out (1993) instead

-During the filming of Blood In, Blood Out; Trejo experienced PTSD while filming his scenes in San Quentin. Especially when filming the scenes in C550, his previous cell from his time incarnated there

-Whike filming Anaconda (1997), Trejo was able to negotiate a higher salary when filming in Venezuela. As Trejo enjoyed leaving the hotel to socialize in his off time…during a possible coup. A particular incident with a group of teenagers with AK-47s brandished at Trejo over his combat boots, helped Trejo negotiate the higher salary to REMAIN at the hotel in his down time

-Trejo contracted Hepatitis C shortly before filming Spy Kids and concluded treatment and recovery just before its premiere (however had gotten so I’ll that his cast noticed his weight loss and demeanour in a different project filmed during spy kids post production)

-Trejo produced his first film in 2014

-To date Trejo has 445 acting credits on IMDB (between 1985-2023) and 84 on screen deaths (12 TV, 72 movies) according to cinemorge (+4 are music video deaths, +1 video game death)

-in total that would make Trejos risk of onscreen death per project roughly 20% per project (89/445)

In Conclusion

[foreverdolly]

in the words of ringo starr: with peace and love, if you find my tex content "weird" then simply do not read it. i promise that it will not insult me in any way. i am always very careful to include trigger warnings in all of my fics so that none of you ever feel uncomfortable. i love you all immensely and hate the thought of accidentally hurting any of you.

with that being said, "once upon a time in hollywood" is a comedy/drama, and the characters are insanely flamboyant in perfect tarantino fashion.

the tex watson that was portrayed in the film was a character. this was not a biopic, but more so a parody. i am separating real life from fiction. the tex watson in the film had his nuts chewed off by a pitbull and then got curb stomped to death. not soon after, his fellow accomplice was set on fire by a ginormous (conveniently owned) flame thrower. the tex watson that i am portraying in my fics is not that of the real life charles ("tex") watson, but that of the parody as played by austin butler.

i have a picture of sharon tate hanging in my home. she's one of my fashion icons, and has been since my early years of high school. i've been obsessed with all things 60's and 70's since i was a child.

it would be one thing if i was writing about evan peters' "dahmer" because that is a documentary series. it follows the real life happenings of the actual murders. i wholeheartedly despise everyone that was involved in the killings. charles manson was a born psychopath turned "messiah", and like all cult leaders, he was incredibly magnetic. this is why "the mamas and the papas" as well as neil young spent time with the family on the ranch a handful of times. the manson murders was a lethal combination of the overuse of psychoactive drugs, a group of very lost people that were in search of a purpose and real meaning, and a psychopath that sought out opportunities to hurt others.

not only do i know about the manson murders, but i am actually incredibly educated on the subject. prior to me even knowing that austin butler existed, might i add. i'm definitely going to delete this later, but i just needed to get it off of my chest. my number one pet peeve is when people try to insult my intelligence.

[nothing-an-iratze-cant-fix]

Hear me out.

Joe Quinn needs to play Charles Manson in a biopic.

[fadeintoyou1993]

BADGLEY MANSON BIOPIC WHEN

oh no no no i want him to play a fictional fucked up little pathetic cult leader i dont need ppl being weird about charles manson in this decade bc of penn n i dont think he wants that either skksks

[anthonysstupiddailyblog]

Anthony’s Stupid Daily Blog (845): Wed 10th Jul 2024

I rewatched the film My Week With Marilyn which I assumed it was going to be a documentary following one of Marilyn Manson’s victims as they recount the events of the week they spent trapped in his basement. However it’s actually about a guy who gets himself a job as a third assistant director on a film which just so happens to be Marilyn Monroe’s only British movie. He and Marilyn hit it off and although he thinks that he can make her happy he soon comes to realise that it’s not that simple. I think a lot of men have this mentality when it comes to Monroe i.e the white knight syndrome of thinking “if only I could have met her I could have saved her”. I think the problem was that the things Monroe needed to make her happy changed all the time, some days she just wanted a quiet life in the country and other days she was a party animal. On the one hand I think she was probably depressed because everyone was trying to tame her but in the other she desperately wanted to be tamed. I think the fact that everyone wanted to save her probably contributed to her mental health struggles as she probably saw herself as the world’s most famous charity case. Michelle Williams absolutely smashes it in this movie and although I can’t say she’s done the best portrayal of Monroe on screen because I think this is the only portrayal of her I’ve ever seen in a biopic (unless you count Gemma Arterton in that episode of Urban Myths which was actually really good too) but I think that in future portrayals of her Williams will be one that the others are measured against. It probably helps that Williams herself has seen her fair share of tragedy in her real life too after losing Heath Ledger at such a young age and having to raise their daughter alone so audiences probably see her as more of a sympathetic figure than they would other actresses. 

Tuned into tonight’s Hollyoaks which featured Ste going to court to be sentenced for Ella’s manslaughter but ended up being let go as the judge said that he believed a custodial sentence would be “unsafe”. On his way him Ste is made aware that his freedom was organised by an unidentified person named “Blue” who is also the one who’s taken credit for attempting to shot Warren dead. The rest of the episode was Warren trying to figure out who Blue was which I think was a futile exercise because everyone knows of you want to find Blue all you need to do is find three clues. Warren decides that Blue must be Freddy Roscoe and so tells Ste that he has to kill him. Umm what happened to Warren’s army of thugs he normally has to do his bidding? Instead of getting Ste to kill Freddy wouldn’t it make more sense to get one of his anonymous knuckle draggers to do it? Oh that’s right they’re probably all at the Euros

[melodymunson]

Do you have a dream role? Is there a part you’re dying to play? I would really love to sink my teeth into playing Marilyn Manson. He’s such an intelligent and thoughtful and interesting social provoker. I remember when I was younger, watching him on the rise, and no matter what people think about his music, he’s a great conduit for conversation, and he really engages with people on taboo issues. I love that about him, and I think his personal life is super interesting, in how he chooses to represent himself and engage with the world. Look, I love his music. For me, as a teenager, he represented such an era of rebellion and refusal and rage. I love all of that. I think it’s something that’s ingrained in me, especially as a teenager, and he was able to really reach into that and expose it.

[leighlim]

And THAT's how you do a poster! I'm not big on Diana documentaries...or biopics....

...Yet....I don't think I can say no to this one! I mean...if they put this much effort on the poster...I can hope that the film manages to be the same quality too right?

Poster Rating: 8/10 (I could go lower to give the film a fighting chance.)

I expect a couple of these would be on regular rotation on walls of cinephiles. :)

Source: Jenelle Riley's Tweet.

[violentdevotion]

im the opposite of that 'normalise knowing nothing about your favourite bands' post bc I feel like ik everything about the beach boys and I couldn't even finish pet sounds

[stalkersdisneyland]

❍ིི۪۪⃕۫۫͜ꦿ֗ ִֶָ¡𝐅𝐀𝐍 𝐂𝐀𝐒𝐓 𝐈𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐒!: if they ever make killer biopics, they are the perfect cast

Ezra Miller and Zach Villa for: Richard Ramirez "night stalker", ezra as young richard and zach as an older one

Jared Leto and Rob Zombie for: Charles Manson, jared as young manson and rob as an older one

[nerdfighterwhatevernumbers]

full offense but any biopic/re-enactment about charles manson that doesn’t include the swastika tattoo in the middle of his forehead is white supremacist propaganda

[margesimpsonannoyedgrunt]

i feel slightly better bout this movie now that tim roth might have a role but i would still prefer literally anything else.