#manson biopic

[merrilark]

Ik I've already said it but, MAN, biographies are hard. I picked up a Steve McQueen bio again, hope to finish before the year is up, and it's just so hard to keep reading because it's so sad, and it's not even trying to be.

I've loved McQueen's shows and films for years. He's definitely a nostalgic figure for me, since I used to watch Wanted: Dead or Alive all the time with my dad and grandpa when I was a kid. I have an undeniable soft spot for him despite the fact that now, as an adult, I fully acknowledge he was a classic old Hollywood asshole. Serial infidelity, abuse, exploding with toxic masculinity and ego that made him a terror on and off set, selfishness, always wanting to be the best in the room, etc. etc. As far as bad behavior goes, he's really nothing new in Hollywood where having an inflated ego seems to be a prerequisite for actors and directors alike, but it is understandably disappointing from the POV of someone who has loved his work since childhood. Don't meet research your heroes, yada yada.

But—and absolutely this is not excusing him—he makes me so sad. He was dealt a bad hand from the start with a father who walked out and a mother who he loved but never showed him real affection and carelessly exposed him to all kinds of abuse at her own hands and at the hands of her boyfriends. I won't get all into it, but the things this guy went through at such a young age and recalls with such flippancy or even pride is insane. He grew from a troubled, lost kid into a troubled, angry, lost man who found it almost impossible to trust anyone, burning down relationships and hurting others seemingly before he could be hurt himself. There are so many quotes from people who knew him best, especially his first wife, that strongly point to serious mental health problems and trauma that simply were not or could not have been properly addressed in the '30s-'80s. Mix it all up with a hefty dose of toxic masculinity and stigmas around mental illness and you have a cocktail for disaster. It's really no wonder he was the way he was; he didn't have the proper tools to manage his mental health and even if he did, he couldn't have because that would have ruined his career and image (how dare men feel things!).

He wasn't a very good man, but I feel for him. His life was a short rollercoaster of tragedy from the day he was born to the day he died at 50, and reads like one long scream for help that no one seemed to notice or look at too closely, including McQueen himself.

[timefadesaway]

they will get timothee chalamet to play bob dylan in the beatles biopics as well like how they got that guy who played charles manson in once upon a time in hollywood to play charles manson in mindhunter

[simply-sharon-tate]

In 2016, Kate Bosworth and Michael Polish purchased the film rights to Greg King’s book, ‘Sharon Tate and The Manson Murders.’

In 2018, she announced on Instagram that they would be making a film simply titled ‘Tate.’ The film would focus on Sharon’s life, and Sharon’s sister Debra would be a producer. Subsequent IG posts and articles implied that production was imminent, if not already underway.

Multiple IG fan pages said that they had DM conversations with Polish in which he claimed the film was finished and a trailer would drop by Thanksgiving 2018. I had one DM conversation with Polish which basically consisted of him sending me an article criticizing Quentin Tarantino’s “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” which hadn’t been filmed yet. It had only been announced and plot details were still being kept secret.

By 2019, Bosworth and Polish stopped talking about the film altogether. Debra Tate made a few cryptic statements on her social media in which she said she didn’t know what was happening with the film.

In 2021, he was sued by art director Jack Renner who alleged he was assaulted by the director during the filming of “Bring On The Dancing Horses” in 2020. The suit also said that Bosworth witnessed the alleged assault and screamed at Renner’s wife, the COVID coordinator on the project, when she and her husband were leaving the set.

In her 2022 court documents, Bosworth said that she and Polish separated in 2021. Their divorce was finalized this year.

Since 2019, people have asked Bosworth about the state of ‘Tate’ on her IG page on a semi regular basis—and never received any reply.

Today I received a DM from her on IG finally confirming what I’ve believed for over three years, the biopic is not happening.

You can follow my Instagram at:

Instagram.com/SimplySharonTate

[omniglobereport]

The Twisted Legacy of Charles Manson: Inside the Cult Leader's Final Days and Enduring Influence

Nearly six years after his death at age 83, Charles Manson continues to fascinate and horrify true crime enthusiasts worldwide. New documentaries and biopics keep America’s most infamous cult leader relevant in modern pop culture – including Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood (2019), which featured Manson Family members as key plot characters. From Small-Time Criminal to Murder…

[kmp78]

“A Manson biopic with JL would be AMAZING, and if they got someone like Fincher or Aronofsky or Tarantino to direct it... WOW. 🙌”. And that’s why you are not in PR! 🤣 A movie role like that would put a stake in the heart of his already waning movie career. While it might be an interesting movie and a role he could act quite well, now certainly isn’t the time to make a movie about a Russian madman or a murderous cult leader. Ya think???🙄

Did playing Dahmer ruin Evan Peters' career? 🤔

Did playing Bundy ruin Zac Efron's career? 🤔

Did playing Wuornos ruin Charlize Theron's career? Or did she get an Oscar for it? 🏆🤔

[anthonysstupiddailyblog]

Anthony’s Stupid Daily Blog (845): Wed 10th Jul 2024

I rewatched the film My Week With Marilyn which I assumed it was going to be a documentary following one of Marilyn Manson’s victims as they recount the events of the week they spent trapped in his basement. However it’s actually about a guy who gets himself a job as a third assistant director on a film which just so happens to be Marilyn Monroe’s only British movie. He and Marilyn hit it off and although he thinks that he can make her happy he soon comes to realise that it’s not that simple. I think a lot of men have this mentality when it comes to Monroe i.e the white knight syndrome of thinking “if only I could have met her I could have saved her”. I think the problem was that the things Monroe needed to make her happy changed all the time, some days she just wanted a quiet life in the country and other days she was a party animal. On the one hand I think she was probably depressed because everyone was trying to tame her but in the other she desperately wanted to be tamed. I think the fact that everyone wanted to save her probably contributed to her mental health struggles as she probably saw herself as the world’s most famous charity case. Michelle Williams absolutely smashes it in this movie and although I can’t say she’s done the best portrayal of Monroe on screen because I think this is the only portrayal of her I’ve ever seen in a biopic (unless you count Gemma Arterton in that episode of Urban Myths which was actually really good too) but I think that in future portrayals of her Williams will be one that the others are measured against. It probably helps that Williams herself has seen her fair share of tragedy in her real life too after losing Heath Ledger at such a young age and having to raise their daughter alone so audiences probably see her as more of a sympathetic figure than they would other actresses. 

Tuned into tonight’s Hollyoaks which featured Ste going to court to be sentenced for Ella’s manslaughter but ended up being let go as the judge said that he believed a custodial sentence would be “unsafe”. On his way him Ste is made aware that his freedom was organised by an unidentified person named “Blue” who is also the one who’s taken credit for attempting to shot Warren dead. The rest of the episode was Warren trying to figure out who Blue was which I think was a futile exercise because everyone knows of you want to find Blue all you need to do is find three clues. Warren decides that Blue must be Freddy Roscoe and so tells Ste that he has to kill him. Umm what happened to Warren’s army of thugs he normally has to do his bidding? Instead of getting Ste to kill Freddy wouldn’t it make more sense to get one of his anonymous knuckle draggers to do it? Oh that’s right they’re probably all at the Euros

[melodymunson]

Do you have a dream role? Is there a part you’re dying to play? I would really love to sink my teeth into playing Marilyn Manson. He’s such an intelligent and thoughtful and interesting social provoker. I remember when I was younger, watching him on the rise, and no matter what people think about his music, he’s a great conduit for conversation, and he really engages with people on taboo issues. I love that about him, and I think his personal life is super interesting, in how he chooses to represent himself and engage with the world. Look, I love his music. For me, as a teenager, he represented such an era of rebellion and refusal and rage. I love all of that. I think it’s something that’s ingrained in me, especially as a teenager, and he was able to really reach into that and expose it.

[leighlim]

And THAT's how you do a poster! I'm not big on Diana documentaries...or biopics....

...Yet....I don't think I can say no to this one! I mean...if they put this much effort on the poster...I can hope that the film manages to be the same quality too right?

Poster Rating: 8/10 (I could go lower to give the film a fighting chance.)

I expect a couple of these would be on regular rotation on walls of cinephiles. :)

Source: Jenelle Riley's Tweet.

[violentdevotion]

im the opposite of that 'normalise knowing nothing about your favourite bands' post bc I feel like ik everything about the beach boys and I couldn't even finish pet sounds

[foreverdolly]

in the words of ringo starr: with peace and love, if you find my tex content "weird" then simply do not read it. i promise that it will not insult me in any way. i am always very careful to include trigger warnings in all of my fics so that none of you ever feel uncomfortable. i love you all immensely and hate the thought of accidentally hurting any of you.

with that being said, "once upon a time in hollywood" is a comedy/drama, and the characters are insanely flamboyant in perfect tarantino fashion.

the tex watson that was portrayed in the film was a character. this was not a biopic, but more so a parody. i am separating real life from fiction. the tex watson in the film had his nuts chewed off by a pitbull and then got curb stomped to death. not soon after, his fellow accomplice was set on fire by a ginormous (conveniently owned) flame thrower. the tex watson that i am portraying in my fics is not that of the real life charles ("tex") watson, but that of the parody as played by austin butler.

i have a picture of sharon tate hanging in my home. she's one of my fashion icons, and has been since my early years of high school. i've been obsessed with all things 60's and 70's since i was a child.

it would be one thing if i was writing about evan peters' "dahmer" because that is a documentary series. it follows the real life happenings of the actual murders. i wholeheartedly despise everyone that was involved in the killings. charles manson was a born psychopath turned "messiah", and like all cult leaders, he was incredibly magnetic. this is why "the mamas and the papas" as well as neil young spent time with the family on the ranch a handful of times. the manson murders was a lethal combination of the overuse of psychoactive drugs, a group of very lost people that were in search of a purpose and real meaning, and a psychopath that sought out opportunities to hurt others.

not only do i know about the manson murders, but i am actually incredibly educated on the subject. prior to me even knowing that austin butler existed, might i add. i'm definitely going to delete this later, but i just needed to get it off of my chest. my number one pet peeve is when people try to insult my intelligence.

[nothing-an-iratze-cant-fix]

Hear me out.

Joe Quinn needs to play Charles Manson in a biopic.

[fadeintoyou1993]

BADGLEY MANSON BIOPIC WHEN

oh no no no i want him to play a fictional fucked up little pathetic cult leader i dont need ppl being weird about charles manson in this decade bc of penn n i dont think he wants that either skksks

[kmp78]

Charles Manson isn’t a bad fit for JL tbh. They can make him look less attractive and he has that charisma.

A Manson biopic with JL would be AMAZING, and if they got someone like Fincher or Aronofsky or Tarantino to direct it... WOW. 🙌

Those types of movies are exactly the kinds he should be making, instead of those laughable kiddie cartoon movies that hold zero cultural and sociological significance and will be forgotten in a flash. 🙄

[margesimpsonannoyedgrunt]

i feel slightly better bout this movie now that tim roth might have a role but i would still prefer literally anything else.

[tilbageidanmark]

Movies I watched this week - 30

Joseph Losey’s brilliant 1963 ‘The Servant’, with dashing Dirk Bogarde and Bowie-lookalike Edward Fox in his first major role.

Chilly, ambiguous sexuality, stylish power dynamics and a creepy attack on Britain's class system. Written by Harold Pinter, with a cool jazz score, and crisp black and white cinematography. A game where the master becomes a slave - A true masterpiece.

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After seeing ‘Pig’ last week, I knew I had to find the documentary The Truffle Hunters. It’s about a group of old mushroom foragers, all in their seventies and eighties, and their dogs, living in the mountains of Piedmont, Italy, and I’m glad I did.

Simple, delicate and rich - a rare find, like the truffles themselves - Best film of the week.

The trailer sums it up.

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A straightforward Finnish biopic of ‘Tom of Finland’, the influential creator of homoerotic art and fashion. Fascinating subject told in a by-the-number style.

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Thomas Vinterberg’s 2016 The Commune - a timid drama about a couple trying communal living in 1970s Copenhagen. It would be better if it was just about Trine Dyrholm's and her asshole husband’s (The always unpleasant Ulrich Thomsen) disintegrating marriage. 4/10

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Borgman, a strange Dutch thriller about a charismatic hobo and his manipulative Manson Family posse who take control of a wealthy family and convert them too into his possessed followers. Some biblical and existentialist undertones, maybe diabolical, Christian horror, surrealistic symbolism and disturbing visuals. A mixed fair.

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Harold and Maude, a love story between two people who like to attend funerals, a young man and 80 year old free spirit Ruth Gordon. With (unrelated to the plot) score by Cat Stevens.

Edgy? Eclectic? “With it”? Not so much after 50 years.

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Benoît Delaunay’s very sad short animation Three Small Cats, about a cute cat family that dies one by one.

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3 more with Willem Dafoe:

✳️✳️✳️ At eternity’s Gate, painter Julian Schnabel‘s hagiographic biopic of Vincent Van Gogh's last two years in Arles.

Beautiful! 9/10.

I remember having a precious edition of ‘Letters to Theo’, which decades later I just gave away with the rest of all my books... Sad!

✳️✳️✳️  Paris, je t'aime, a 2006 anthology of 18 vignettes, each set in different arrondissement (2 are missing). Most are romantic, enjoyable and sentimental “City-Porn”.

The last Alexander Payne short, where lonely letter carrier tourist Margo Martindale has an epiphany on why she loves the city, was perhaps the loveliest.

Also, Maggie Gyllenhaal as a hashish smoking actress was absolutely cute.

✳️✳️✳️ I didn’t know that Paul Schrader directed Adam, Resurrected, a 2008 Israeli film based on Yoram Kanyuk’s book  ( אדם בן כלב‎ ). A horrible and cringy holocaust drama taking place at mental institute in the Negev in 1961.

Unfortunately it is headed by Human Ham Sandwich Jeff Goldblum in a three piece suit and with a fake German accent trying to hamm-out Jerry Lewis in his Auschwitz comedy ‘The Day the Clown Cried’.

One of the worst film I’ve seen during this project!

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Le Samouraï, Jean-Pierre Melville’s tribute to American gangster genre of the 30′s and 40′s. With taciturn Gun-for-hire Alain Delon at his peak handsomeness. Solitary, coolly detached, deadly stylish.

✴️ Discovering Max Tohline:

✳️✳️✳️ Media scholar Max Tohline’s fascinating investigative video essay A Supercut of Supercuts. The 2 hour long academic discussion extends to before the beginning of the cinema to postulates that Supercuts are not a form of aesthetic, but a new mode of knowledge - the database episteme.

Compelling! I’m going to watch the rest of his output!

✳️✳️✳️ ‘The Conversation’ is the Confessional - ‘We’ve heard it all before’.

✳️✳️✳️ Editing as Punctuation in Film - "The whole eloquence of cinema is achieved in the editing room"

✳️✳️✳️ From ^ there ^: György Pálfi’s Final Cut, Ladies and Gentlemen, a romantic experimental mash-up, made up of 450 clips from the most famous films in history. It seems that I’ve seen 90% of all of them here in recent years.

10/10

✳️✳️✳️ More from ^ there ^ : Chuck Workman’s 1986 Precious Images. 470 half-second-long splices of movie moments through the history of American film. Commissioned by the Directors Guild for its 50th anniversary.

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I dislike most “action” movies, but I love Tony Gilroy’s Bourne trilogy, and watch them regularly.  I just binged again on The Bourne Identity, ‘Supremacy and 'Ultimatum, the films he wrote just before directing ‘Michael Clayton’.

All three of them follow the same story patterns. I don’t want to see the last two.

Here is Tony Gilroy Delivers a 2013 BAFTA Screenwriters' Lecture.

Link: About The Bourne trilogy’s shaky-cam action.

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I finally finished Your honor, Bryan Cranston’s 10 episode series, which was unfairly compared to Breaking Bad. Yes, both are dealing with a respectable member of society going ‘Bad’, in this case a New Orleans judge whose son accidentally kills a motorcyclist, and who decides to cover it up.

But this is no ‘Breaking Bad’, because the ridiculous drama here is lazy, full of holes and clichéd throughout.

Based on an Israeli series ‘Kvodo’.

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The princess Bride - First watch: Yes, it’s very quotable. If I was 12 seeing it for the first time, I might find it enchanting, but since I’ve waited 56 years, nah...

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The Hater, another despicable Polish film about a young social media sociopath, online stalker and manipulator who works at troll farm and foments hatred, violence and destruction.

(I’m glad I quit Netflix).

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(My complete movie list is here)