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august. i forgot to skip the missing one it's levon and the hawks at the onyx club

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the band fans always siding with levon and hating on robbie but what about when levon aligned himself with the treacherous count dooku

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Umh no your rpf posting should never end. Keep cooking ! 🔥

😁 mwah!

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thank you everyone uninterested who has continued to endure my the band rpf posting btw. it will probably die down at some point

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grey gardens (1975)

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How were levon and robbie psychosexually linked?

fuckkkk okay. so there's more than all this it's like very fertile ground. sorry idk why im using that metaphor. anyway a not-so-brief levon + robbie history and also some of the crazy things bc theres another anon who asked about it and i KEEP FORGETTING. sorry in advance that this is so long bc i didn't really answer i just gave u a history...i don't really claim to be an expert i def have more knowledgeable mutuals but i'll do my best...

idk how much u know about the history of the band so ill pretend u know nothing. i dont think u can rlly talk about the levon + robbie thing without like...going through the whole history 😭 but maybe im just insane so sorry this is long.

before the band were The Band, they originated as the hawks, ronnie hawkins' group (they were each hired individually over time). of the original Band lineup, the first was levon. robbie joined the hawks as their bassist intially in...1959/1960 (i forgot #sorry) when he was like 16 (and levon was 19). in robbie's account of first seeing levon play in 1959, he referred to him as "a young beam of light on drums."

hawklings era visual aids :)

over time, they sort of became inseperable. levon took robbie under his wing and theyve variously referred to each other as best friends, brothers, partners in crime, soulmates etc etc in referral to this time. they used to room together, and in arkansas they'd often stay at levon's family home together and in toronto they'd stay at robbie's mom's. in testimony robbie referred to levon as "her other favourite son". gradually the rest of the group were hired (rick then richard then garth) but robbie and levon stayed as the tightest friendship at this point. they also had a close friendship with a woman levon married for draft-dodging purposes called connie b, and everyone used to call them the three musketeers. around this time they may have bought a car together? i think rick referred to it as their car, but robbie said it was levon's in testimony so idk.

also maybe not relevant but the hawks were having crazy amounts of sex. supposedly there were orgies and im sure they were fucking in the same room same bed etc etc. i think in the richard biography this is treated like masculine bonding time so take that as you will.

once the hawks split from ronnie, they toured around a lot - and robbie and levon split off to make their own way down south from canada so they could go vacation in chicago together lol - but struggled financially for a while. they tried to commit armed robbery together (levon and robbie) which is...okay! like they bought guns and drove out together and put masks on to rob an illegal poker game and the only reason they didn't was because the game was cancelled. here's another story from this time:

'duke' is robbie, the nickname came from when levon and connie took him to buy a tailored suit. whenever robbie wrote about his interactions with levon, levon always referred to him as either 'duke' or 'baby'.

in 1965, they met bob dylan. levon and robbie both tell the story differently in their books because of course they do, but basically levon and robbie played a couple of electric sets with bob without the rest of the hawks that summer. bob later moved to hire them for the north american/australian/european tour of 65/66...this is the dylan goes electric controversy and they were booed every show. bob and robbie got close fast (i cant remember who said it but theres a quote from someone about the tour like the only person bob really trusted on that tour was robbie). levon quit at the end of november/start of december (idr) in 1965 after three months. robbie describes levon as "pulling back" during this time which led him to deepening his friendship w bob. this is sort of crazy to me because it was three months with a definite end date just a few months away and it was enough to make him quit the hawks (his band of 6 years), indefinitely quit music, and go work on an oil rig. here's the story of levon's leaving from testimony:

so yes levon quit. 66 tour happened, bob and robbie became very close (there's a story idk if u know about bob nearly drowning in a bathtub on this tour - it was robbie who was bathing him bc he was fucked up and pulled him out?). in my belief #mybelief it was partly bc robbie had this huge space he was trying to fill and it was easy to let bob be that person, at least at first. robbie also met his future wife on this tour. once they returned and the tour ended, the hawks were put on retainer but then bob broke his neck and secluded himself in woodstock to recover. with time, bob invited robbie and the rest of the hawks to come up and make music etc.

they invited levon back up to woodstock once they were getting a record deal. he rejoined, and they started working towards music from big pink. this is like...the honeymoon period for The Band. they were all living together and making really good music and being very productive and having 'fun'. robbie also got married. levon brought a shotgun to his wedding. and wore jeans

so quite soon after the album was released, rick broke his neck in a car crash and was in traction for weeks, so they didnt tour, started working on the next album. robbie wrote the night they drove old dixie down specifically for levon to sing because he wanted to write a song no one in the world could sing as well as him. there's more to say here but robbie often talked about feeling lucky to write songs for those voices (levon and rick and robbie), but he only really mentions levon in his book in this way. levon sings their biggest (and 'best'?) songs...and robbie wrote them for his voice because he "knew his instrument so well".

after rick recovered and they recorded the band some pics from the poolhouse they recorded some of it in in levon's room:

the album did well commercially and suddenly they had more money than they knew what to do with. this is when levon, rick and richard basically began crashing their cars everywhere and also (allegedly) the start of their heroin addictions. this is where things sort of fell apart for robbie because levon lied to him about his heroin use and "they never lied to each other".

so gradually that got worse and worse and also robbie was very dedicated to his kids there was this growing gap in sort of...values. from now this is more speculative ok bc neither of them talk that much about this time in their books. but i don't think it really got acknowledged between them before the '74 tour but that's sort of when things were getting worse for all of them (and especially wrt richard's health surrounding his alcoholism) and basically over the next couple of years robbie became kind of paranoid about dying on the road. levon has this famous quote like "i ain't in it for my health" which i think shows the conflict in opinion. all that went on and their friendship was drifting and then richard broke his neck on a speedboat and robbie basically called a stop to it all. he organised their last concert and put together the last waltz, and he did it fast. levon hated it - but i do personally think this is a littleeee more complicated than he let on bc im sure he did (he was reportedly not rlly around backstage bc he was pissed off) but i think in general the band were sort of hopeful about moving forward and having a chance to do their own things and coming back stronger. it didn't work out that way, but it was the intention - the last waltz was meant to get them off the road, but not break them up.

side note that after the last waltz robbie's marriage broke down and his cocaine use was crazy and he moved in with martin scorsese for a long time and they were sort of like an old married couple? unimportant but important to me.

levon and robbie were still friendly-ish - or at least trying to be - for a while. like they tried. there's the rco barbecue in 1977 at levon's home robbie went to:

robbie's leg btw

and they all showed to support rick at the roxy in 1978

but those r the last pictures of them together. the compelling thing is basically what comes after. yes i know ive just written hundreds of words before even getting here.

so disclaimer my perspective on their divorce is really much more in the centre like i think they both exaggerated and lied etc, i think levon was right about a lot of things (and i dont think he was in the wrong for feeling like that) but i also generally side with robbie when it comes to the public element of the 'feud' (robbie used to quite pithily say that it wasn't a feud, because a feud would have been mutual and this wasn't).

levon published his (ghostwritten) autobiography in the 90s and it was basically a character assassination 😭 he basically levelled a lot of accusations about robbie about his authoritarianism and various songwriting disputes, claiming there was a lot more teamwork than the song credits reflected (leading to more money). there were also vaguer things to do with him being cold and vain and self-centered. not the point on whether i believe in all this or not but the point is levon basically put out that he hated him. but then he denied that he hated him. but he also forbid people from even speaking about him in his presence.

another thing about that book that's just sort of funny though is when he talked about seeing the last waltz and he was soooo aggravated about robbie looking hot. he kept talking about his haircut and his kohl-lined eyes and his sweat. like...

something that stood out to me was that in the new richard biography, there's a story about richard talking on the phone to levon after albert grossman's funeral, and richard mentioned that robbie was on his way over, and levon just blew up, so much so that richard had to hold the phone away he was so loud. this is interesting to me because levon allegedly hated grossman, but he cared enough to ask about the funeral etc and didn't react Like That, he only felt like that about robbie. it just seems incredibly personal and he was obviously very hurt. this comes across a lot in levon's book once you've parsed through the bitterness and anger.

the 'feud' persisted until levon's death. robbie visited him on his deathbed. if you read robbie's book, it's sort of really crazy how he talks about levon like he really truly loved him (regardless of an rpf sense like he genuinely did). and in the tie-in documentary once were brothers, he basically dedicates the last 10 minutes to about how much he misses levon and how great levon was and sort of straight-up ignores richard and rick 😭

there's more than this im sure. if anyone who knows more than me and has read this whole thing would like to chip in feel free. but here's my manifesto. sorry u caught me at a bad time (just watched the last waltz and it's 11pm).

AND THIS ISN'T GETTING INTO SONGS I THINK R ABOUT THEM...quick list off the top of my head

rockin' chair

rag mama rag

bessie smith

evangeline

it makes no difference

you don't come through (demo - u have to find it on youtube)

sorry again. idk how to be brief. and again there's more i've forgotten i imagine.

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when you see the words girlhood girlie pop girl’s girl female experience and you immediately know you’re about to see something so completely unrelatable that it makes you feel like you’re on a different planet

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can someone headcannon themselves as having a crush on me…. This is getting borrrrring! 🙄

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What are your fav levon/robbie fics?

robbie robertson's testimony. im just kidding. these probably x x :)

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Im a mad fucking killa

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I have run out of time. I have lost it all. So I can’t work fast enough to catch up. I can’t run fast enough to catch up. And the only thing that catches me up is doing my magic act.

THIEF (1981) dir. Michael Mann

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Levon Helm & Robbie Robertson

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sometimes you just have to post robbie robertson rick danko images and move on

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if you hate jazz you will die and go to hell

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How were levon and robbie psychosexually linked?

fuckkkk okay. so there's more than all this it's like very fertile ground. sorry idk why im using that metaphor. anyway a not-so-brief levon + robbie history and also some of the crazy things bc theres another anon who asked about it and i KEEP FORGETTING. sorry in advance that this is so long bc i didn't really answer i just gave u a history...i don't really claim to be an expert i def have more knowledgeable mutuals but i'll do my best...

idk how much u know about the history of the band so ill pretend u know nothing. i dont think u can rlly talk about the levon + robbie thing without like...going through the whole history 😭 but maybe im just insane so sorry this is long.

before the band were The Band, they originated as the hawks, ronnie hawkins' group (they were each hired individually over time). of the original Band lineup, the first was levon. robbie joined the hawks as their bassist intially in...1959/1960 (i forgot #sorry) when he was like 16 (and levon was 19). in robbie's account of first seeing levon play in 1959, he referred to him as "a young beam of light on drums."

hawklings era visual aids :)

over time, they sort of became inseperable. levon took robbie under his wing and theyve variously referred to each other as best friends, brothers, partners in crime, soulmates etc etc in referral to this time. they used to room together, and in arkansas they'd often stay at levon's family home together and in toronto they'd stay at robbie's mom's. in testimony robbie referred to levon as "her other favourite son". gradually the rest of the group were hired (rick then richard then garth) but robbie and levon stayed as the tightest friendship at this point. they also had a close friendship with a woman levon married for draft-dodging purposes called connie b, and everyone used to call them the three musketeers. around this time they may have bought a car together? i think rick referred to it as their car, but robbie said it was levon's in testimony so idk.

also maybe not relevant but the hawks were having crazy amounts of sex. supposedly there were orgies and im sure they were fucking in the same room same bed etc etc. i think in the richard biography this is treated like masculine bonding time so take that as you will.

once the hawks split from ronnie, they toured around a lot - and robbie and levon split off to make their own way down south from canada so they could go vacation in chicago together lol - but struggled financially for a while. they tried to commit armed robbery together (levon and robbie) which is...okay! like they bought guns and drove out together and put masks on to rob an illegal poker game and the only reason they didn't was because the game was cancelled. here's another story from this time:

'duke' is robbie, the nickname came from when levon and connie took him to buy a tailored suit. whenever robbie wrote about his interactions with levon, levon always referred to him as either 'duke' or 'baby'.

in 1965, they met bob dylan. levon and robbie both tell the story differently in their books because of course they do, but basically levon and robbie played a couple of electric sets with bob without the rest of the hawks that summer. bob later moved to hire them for the north american/australian/european tour of 65/66...this is the dylan goes electric controversy and they were booed every show. bob and robbie got close fast (i cant remember who said it but theres a quote from someone about the tour like the only person bob really trusted on that tour was robbie). levon quit at the end of november/start of december (idr) in 1965 after three months. robbie describes levon as "pulling back" during this time which led him to deepening his friendship w bob. this is sort of crazy to me because it was three months with a definite end date just a few months away and it was enough to make him quit the hawks (his band of 6 years), indefinitely quit music, and go work on an oil rig. here's the story of levon's leaving from testimony:

so yes levon quit. 66 tour happened, bob and robbie became very close (there's a story idk if u know about bob nearly drowning in a bathtub on this tour - it was robbie who was bathing him bc he was fucked up and pulled him out?). in my belief #mybelief it was partly bc robbie had this huge space he was trying to fill and it was easy to let bob be that person, at least at first. robbie also met his future wife on this tour. once they returned and the tour ended, the hawks were put on retainer but then bob broke his neck and secluded himself in woodstock to recover. with time, bob invited robbie and the rest of the hawks to come up and make music etc.

they invited levon back up to woodstock once they were getting a record deal. he rejoined, and they started working towards music from big pink. this is like...the honeymoon period for The Band. they were all living together and making really good music and being very productive and having 'fun'. robbie also got married. levon brought a shotgun to his wedding. and wore jeans

so quite soon after the album was released, rick broke his neck in a car crash and was in traction for weeks, so they didnt tour, started working on the next album. robbie wrote the night they drove old dixie down specifically for levon to sing because he wanted to write a song no one in the world could sing as well as him. there's more to say here but robbie often talked about feeling lucky to write songs for those voices (levon and rick and robbie), but he only really mentions levon in his book in this way. levon sings their biggest (and 'best'?) songs...and robbie wrote them for his voice because he "knew his instrument so well".

after rick recovered and they recorded the band some pics from the poolhouse they recorded some of it in in levon's room:

the album did well commercially and suddenly they had more money than they knew what to do with. this is when levon, rick and richard basically began crashing their cars everywhere and also (allegedly) the start of their heroin addictions. this is where things sort of fell apart for robbie because levon lied to him about his heroin use and "they never lied to each other".

so gradually that got worse and worse and also robbie was very dedicated to his kids there was this growing gap in sort of...values. from now this is more speculative ok bc neither of them talk that much about this time in their books. but i don't think it really got acknowledged between them before the '74 tour but that's sort of when things were getting worse for all of them (and especially wrt richard's health surrounding his alcoholism) and basically over the next couple of years robbie became kind of paranoid about dying on the road. levon has this famous quote like "i ain't in it for my health" which i think shows the conflict in opinion. all that went on and their friendship was drifting and then richard broke his neck on a speedboat and robbie basically called a stop to it all. he organised their last concert and put together the last waltz, and he did it fast. levon hated it - but i do personally think this is a littleeee more complicated than he let on bc im sure he did (he was reportedly not rlly around backstage bc he was pissed off) but i think in general the band were sort of hopeful about moving forward and having a chance to do their own things and coming back stronger. it didn't work out that way, but it was the intention - the last waltz was meant to get them off the road, but not break them up.

side note that after the last waltz robbie's marriage broke down and his cocaine use was crazy and he moved in with martin scorsese for a long time and they were sort of like an old married couple? unimportant but important to me.

levon and robbie were still friendly-ish - or at least trying to be - for a while. like they tried. there's the rco barbecue in 1977 at levon's home robbie went to:

robbie's leg btw

and they all showed to support rick at the roxy in 1978

but those r the last pictures of them together. the compelling thing is basically what comes after. yes i know ive just written hundreds of words before even getting here.

so disclaimer my perspective on their divorce is really much more in the centre like i think they both exaggerated and lied etc, i think levon was right about a lot of things (and i dont think he was in the wrong for feeling like that) but i also generally side with robbie when it comes to the public element of the 'feud' (robbie used to quite pithily say that it wasn't a feud, because a feud would have been mutual and this wasn't).

levon published his (ghostwritten) autobiography in the 90s and it was basically a character assassination 😭 he basically levelled a lot of accusations about robbie about his authoritarianism and various songwriting disputes, claiming there was a lot more teamwork than the song credits reflected (leading to more money). there were also vaguer things to do with him being cold and vain and self-centered. not the point on whether i believe in all this or not but the point is levon basically put out that he hated him. but then he denied that he hated him. but he also forbid people from even speaking about him in his presence.

another thing about that book that's just sort of funny though is when he talked about seeing the last waltz and he was soooo aggravated about robbie looking hot. he kept talking about his haircut and his kohl-lined eyes and his sweat. like...

something that stood out to me was that in the new richard biography, there's a story about richard talking on the phone to levon after albert grossman's funeral, and richard mentioned that robbie was on his way over, and levon just blew up, so much so that richard had to hold the phone away he was so loud. this is interesting to me because levon allegedly hated grossman, but he cared enough to ask about the funeral etc and didn't react Like That, he only felt like that about robbie. it just seems incredibly personal and he was obviously very hurt. this comes across a lot in levon's book once you've parsed through the bitterness and anger.

the 'feud' persisted until levon's death. robbie visited him on his deathbed. if you read robbie's book, it's sort of really crazy how he talks about levon like he really truly loved him (regardless of an rpf sense like he genuinely did). and in the tie-in documentary once were brothers, he basically dedicates the last 10 minutes to about how much he misses levon and how great levon was and sort of straight-up ignores richard and rick 😭

there's more than this im sure. if anyone who knows more than me and has read this whole thing would like to chip in feel free. but here's my manifesto. sorry u caught me at a bad time (just watched the last waltz and it's 11pm).

AND THIS ISN'T GETTING INTO SONGS I THINK R ABOUT THEM...quick list off the top of my head

rockin' chair

rag mama rag

bessie smith

evangeline

it makes no difference

you don't come through (demo - u have to find it on youtube)

sorry again. idk how to be brief. and again there's more i've forgotten i imagine.

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