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there is something about the way that dick approaches damian in Batman and Robin (2009) and the way bruce approaches damian in Batman and Robin (2011). where it's very similar: both are not exactly prepared for this, are frustrated with damian, doubt their own abilities to be what he needs but feel responsible anyway.
but it's different...in 2009, the responsibility is on dick to change, to gain damian's respect--which is how it should be, because dick is the adult and damian is the child (10 years old. that's a fourth grader) who is in his care. vs in 2011, the responsibility is more so on damian (the fourth grader) to change, to gain bruce's respect.
Batman and Robin (2009) #2
Dick: Who's gonna save him if we don't?
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Batman and Robin (2011) #2
Bruce: I'm afraid of what Damian could become without me around.
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Batman and Robin (2009) #1
Damian: You can have my respect if you earn it, that's all I'm saying. You're not my father.
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Batman and Robin (2011) #4
Bruce: If you don't respect me, you won't ever respect yourself.
Damian: Do you respect me?
Bruce: If I can't trust you, I can't respect you.
screaming and dying and screaming forever
#two more notes. 1. i think this makes sense with bruce's parenting style. this is in character to the extreme#and its not his worst parenting and it's pretty realistic. However makes me insane when ppl talk about his good 2011 parenting ff#2. it also makes sense with damian's ultimate storyline being the racist 'wayne good vs al ghul bad' thing. ugh#makes sense ie i understand why its written that way and it sucks shit. fuck dc#damian al ghul#dick and damian#anti bruce wayne
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âCanât wait till these two childrenâs cartoon characters fuckâ yeah not creepy at all
Today, I will talk to yâall about whatâs honestly one of the creepiest questions that has haunted me since I was twelve years old, specifically: how the fuck can people ever have thought that Born in the USA is a patriotic song in 1984 and how canât they still understand it now?
Honestly, I have no idea, and in this essay I will walk you through it so itâs exceedingly and clearly explained how itâs in no way, shape or form a mindlessly patriotic song but, on the contrary, is a sharp, angry, vitriolic satire which criticizes the US government and its stance on the Vietnam war to Hell and back.
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Born in the USA is the title song of the eponymous 1984 record which turned my good old pal Bruce into a world superstar, but it had originally been written for 1982â˛s acoustic masterpiece Nebraska. It was then reworked into an electrical version whose music is probably what makes people thing itâs patriotic since it sounds happy and singing-inducing, except that if you listen to the original:
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You can notice that the famous one is just the upbeat version of the hauntingly, frankly anxiety-inducing acoustic that does certainly not work to sing out loud, but admittedly isnât as good to sing in a stadium.
After having made this clear, we can finally move on into analyzing the lyrics.
The song opens with:
Born down in a dead manâs townThe first kick I took was when I hit the groundYou end up like a dog thatâs been beat too muchâTil you spend half your life just coverinâ up
Now, here we have the first iconic question of this evening, as in: how in the hell a song that opens with born down in a dead manâs town // the first kick I took was when I hit the ground can ever be taken for mindless praising/patriotism?
I have no fucking clue except for âpeople only listen to the refrainâ. Anyhow, from this opening which is literally a kick in the teeth we learn that a) the narrator was born in a dead manâs town ie somewhere small without many options nor many people, b) his life has been shit since the early beginning since the first kick he took was when he hit the ground, which is fortified by the following two lines in which he compares himself to a âdog whoâs been beat to much until he spends half his life just covering upâ, a sentence that makes a hell of a lot more sense if you listen to the rest of what he has to say later.
For now, we have the immortal refrain:
Born in the U.S.AI was born in the U.S.AI was born in the U.S.ABorn in the U.S.A
In which the narrator informs us where he comes from, except that if we take the first stanza into account⌠the USA donât sound really idyllic, now, donât we?
Anyway, stanza two:
Got in a little hometown jamSo they put a rifle in my handSent me off to a foreign landTo go and kill the yellow man
And here we can finally see whatâs the problem: our guy is a Vietnam veteran. However, things arenât so easy. What we surmise from these short, extremely packed with information lines, is that:
the narrator wasnât drafted;
the narrator was coerced into going by a method that was pretty common back in the day - people who ended up in bar fights or such altercations were given the choice of going to jail or go to Vietnam and of course if they had to support a family/needed money theyâd pick Vietnam, but itâs still coercion and he certainly didnât want to go;
which is why he says they put a rifle in my hand - itâs they running the action, not him;
and they also sent me off to a foreign land ie they/the army sent him to a place he doesnât know (foreign) to go and kill the yellow man (vietcong) even if he didnât want to.
And then weâre again informed that he was born in the USA, and that means he a) was born in a crappy place, b) was sent to Vietnam for a menial fight (a little hometown jam), c) was sent to kill people when he didnât want to by higher powers who give zero shits about him.
Doesnât seem like a compliment to me.
However, thereâs more!
Come back home to the refineryHiring man says âSon if it was up to meâWent down to see my V.A. manHe said âSon, donât you understandâ
Our narrator comes back home to the refinery (compare with what I said before in the Youngstown analysis - that one also went to Vietnam and came back to a job at the steel mill he didnât have anymore, so they both had highly stressful jobs that would take a toll on their health sooner rather than later) and the hiring man doesnât hire him and shrugs like hey I wish I could but I canât. So he goes to the VA who asks, donât you understand, which in this case means that thereâs no place for him in this context.
Which ties to the fact that Vietnam veterans were treated like shit and generally ignored because the war was lost and people didnât want to think about it, except that at the same time they were the first to actually vocally come together and ask for help and actually they were the first who recognized the importance of treating PTSD and ran free clinics in which also WWII and Korea veterans could come for treatment, but hey, letâs send people to fight wars we know weâre losing and then letâs not help them, why not?
But no, son, donât you understand.
And then he informs us again that heâs born in the USA, a country where after being sent to war without wanting to heâs not wanted anymore after he comes back.
The bridge, though, gives us even more interesting info:
I had a brother at Khe Sanh fighting off the Viet CongTheyâre still there, heâs all goneHe had a woman he loved in SaigonI got a picture of him in her arms now
This stanza has an inane amount of info we can unpack in a handy checklist:
the narrator wasnât the only person in his family to go - he had a brother in Vietnam, too;
the brother not only died but most likely died during the khe sahn battle which is admittedly one of the fucking dumbest decisions ever taken by the US military in their entire history and which was a defeat from the US even if they donât like to admit it and prefer the âwithdrawnâ excuse, which places him at the most recognizable and famous point of the Vietnam war for the casual listener/student;
the viet cong he and his brother fought are still there, he died, so = the US lost the war;
BUT the brother was in love with a Vietnamese woman (in love ie a serious thing) and the narrator has a picture of the two of them together, which suggests that neither he nor his brother hold the Vietnamese any ill-will and actually most probably dislike the US government more than the people they were supposed to fight.
We have no refrain after that, just the solo, but I donât think he needs to say again how he was born in the USA for us to assume that when he says that, heâs being extremely sarcastic and not proud of it whatsoever.
Anyhow, weâre finally at the last stanza:
Down in the shadow of the penitentiaryOut by the gas fires of the refineryIâm ten years burning down the roadNowhere to run ainât got nowhere to go
Again showing how good he is at packing info in a short space while providing the listeners with info about how it sucks for his character, he paints a fairly bleak picture with two lines: the shadow of the penitentiary suggests how he comes close to being arrested and the out by the gas fires of the refinery suggests that heâs out there inhaling the toxic gas but not working there, so heâs basically left to himself without any help.
Also, heâs ten years burning down the road, which means that heâs been back for that long and no oneâs helped him since then, and then he has nowhere to run and nowhere to go, so even if he wanted to leave, he literally canât because he has no other option than his dead manâs town (most likely because he doesnât have the means and the money and he most likely has untreated ptsd, so heâs stuck there), and that is how his country left him. And now the last refrain changes:
Born in the U.S.A., I was born in the U.S.A.Born in the U.S.A., Iâm a long gone daddy in the U.S.A.Born in the U.S.A., born in the U.S.A.Born in the U.S.A., Iâm a cool rocking daddy in the U.S.A.
Because now not only heâs born in the USA, but we also know that he has a kid (Iâm a long gone daddy + cool rocking daddy) and both definitions contrast with each other - long gone is the exact contrary of cool rocking, which suggests that the latter is as sarcastic as the rest of the refrain (the long gone pairs exceedingly well with the ten years burning down the road) and if we take LONG GONE at his word, he hasnât seen his kid in ages because he canât work or has ptsd or both.
So hey, being born in the USA for the narrator meant:
being left without options except the refinery in his town if he wanted to work;
being sent against his will to vietnam;
losing a brother in there, too;
(also, out of the two of them, the brother ie the one who found love there died while he who has nothing in either ânam or the US survived);
losing his job;
being rejected by everyone including most likely his family/his child;
being left on his own even by the VA as in the office supposed to help him;
risking going to jail;
being unable to change his situation or crawl out of it because all of those circumstances make sure he canât literally do it;
all this while heâs probably hearing rhetoric about how great his country is everywhere.
So, that is why the refrain is not mindless patriotism but pure vitriol - itâs like, âhey, if you listened to the thing, everything sucks but hey, I was told being born in the USA is great so hey, I WAS! AMAZING, RIGHT? /sarcasmâ, not âOH MY GOD HOW GREAT THE US IS I LOVE IT UNCRITICALLYâ.
Admittedly, the fact that Ronald Reagan thought it was a patriotic song that might resonate with his audience:
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Shows exactly all the reasons why Reagan was a complete idiot without a shred of text comprehension, and too bad people remember Reaganâs opinion more than the mythical, amazing, unreachable slam Bruce gave that speech not long later:
TLDR: this is not a song about mindless patriotic US drivel and itâd be frankly obvious from basically listening to the lyrics, but then again listening to the lyrics is the same thing as reading something with a modicum of using your brain, and from what I see reading while using 0,05% of someoneâs brain capacity on tumblr is basically asking for the impossible.
Anyhow, I think anonâs time would be better spent thinking about how creepy is it that I see people on youtube commenting on American Skin (41 Shots) with âomg Springsteen is a leftist now Iâll go burn my copy of BITUSAâ when itâd be obvious from that song that his politics havenât changed from then than about how people shipping things is apparently creepy.
:â)
#bruce springsteen for ts#anon hate saga#lmao#have another#I HAD SO MUCH FUN!#pls send me more dumb anon hate for more bruce essays#i'll be glad to provide :))))))#Anonymous#ask post#bruce meta
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4, 6, 9, 10, 12: Rhodey and Bucky, 15, 16, 21, 23, 27, 29, 30, 32, 35, 37, 43, 46, 50, 54: Tony
You know that meme where the white woman is looking at the math overlaying the picture in confusion? That was me when I got this ask because instead of reading the fucking questions on the ask meme I put up I decided âRhodey and Buckyâ were some other thing? Long story short Iâm a moron lmao.
4-Â Favorite actress
Tbh I donât pay much attention to the actresses and thus I almost missed out of saying Tessa Thompson like some kind of savage. I appreciate how hard she worked to try and make Valkyrie bisexual and also her character was basically the only thing I liked about Thor: Ragnarok (controversial opinion, I know).
6-Â Favorite quote
âTrust my rageâ from Thor The Dark World. This line is so visceral and poetic. Like shit son, the rest of the movie was eh, but that line? Fucking amazing, and Hiddlestonâs delivery of it is top tier bois.
9-Â BROTP
Pepper and Tony. Iâve never seen the romance between them, and in my opinion it was there because it seems movies are fucking incapable of not having a romance subplot (no hate to pepperony shippers either, everyone likes what they like and the entire point of fic is to circumvent canon anyways). But as a friendship pairing these two are excellent- theyâre a great team, they understand each other on a fundamental level, and their friendship dynamic is interesting. Also, to me, I think their relationship is more compelling without the romance.
10-Â How did I discovered Marvel?
Iâve mentioned this in other asks but I had a friend make me watch Avengers and I didnât like it lmao. I only gave it another show two years later and started from the beginning with CA:TFA and then I got into it. Iâm not sure what changed or why I took to it later, especially when I found the later half of TFA to be kind of boring (I love Skinny!Steve ok) but it happened and when WS came out I saw it in theaters. From then I was hooked.
12-Â Make me choose between two characters: Rhodey and Bucky
Damn, Iâd rather not have to choose, you suck! But, for the sake of the ask, Rhodey. As a character heâs better constructed, has his own story and motivation outside Tony, heâs funny, and while he has his moments (that I mostly blame on shit writing) heâs a great friend. I honestly wish that we could get a whole movie about him doing things but I did hear some rumors not long ago about Marvel looking into making Iron Man 4 an Ironheart movie and the only thing that would make that better is if Rhodey were her mentor (I literally wrote a story about this once).
Anyways, although I write Bucky a lot more than I do Rhodey I do prefer his character in a more fundamental way simply because heâs more fleshed out. Plus I love male friendships that are actually good and James Rhodey Rhodes is the God Tier of friends. The man spent 3 fucking months combing the desert for his disaster friend and thatâs some damn dedication. Especially when you know people must have gotten real damn annoyed with him using resources and shit. But that action alone tells you everything you need to know about him and none of it is bad. I love Rhodey, seriously.
15-Â Top 5 ships
Tony/TâChalla
Tony/ Bucky
Tony/ Stephen
Tony/Rhodey
And, because I feel compelled to put a ship that doesnât have Tony in it Steve/Howard
Honorable Mentions: Tony/ Peter Q
16-Â Top 5 villains
THANOS
Erik Killmonger
Loki
Justin Hammer (heâs just so absurd)
Ghost (from Ant Man and The Wasp)
Seriously, this was hard because Marvelâs villains are shit. Theyâre all the same one dimensional âtheyâre evilâ type characters.
21-Â Dream crossover
Basically any urban fantasy world I loved in my teens and the MCU. Iâve written a Vampire Academy/ MCU crossover but Iâd love to write a House of Night crossover (I hate the characters in HoN, but love the world ok donât judge), and a Shadowhunters crossover. Iâve seen some cool stuff with Teen Wolf being crossed over too though.
23-Â Most layered character
Tony fucking easily. His arcs are always the most compelling (or close to it), heâs had the most character development, and his trauma plays out so beautifully on screen. Iâd argue Steve is a close second post WS, but the MCU will never let his character play out the development heâs gotten because theyâll never let Steve be less than perfect, which pisses me off. Otherwise his transition from a solider who wants to do right by his country to a cynical man who doesnât know how to process the new world heâs been tossed into or how to handle a situation in which the morally correct solution isnât abundantly obvious would be a compelling watch. But its been consistently proven that Steve will never get a real realization of his new characterization because ~~perfection~~.
27-Â Favorite moment
Shiiiit. Thatâs a lot of material and because I have a bad memory Iâm going to go with âdonât call us plucky, we donât know what it meansâ because that was hilarious lmao.
29-Â Saddest moment
Shit boi, probs a toss up between Peter Pâs death and Buckyâs. Peterâs is obvious but Bucky fucking dusting in front of the dude who spent so long trying to find him again in an effort to feel, even if its just for a moment, like heâs home again? Sad af. I felt awful for Steve there.
30-Â Most beautiful scene
Pretty much all of Black Panther is a visual treat, but Iâm especially fond of TâChalla in the dream world with his father. That scene was so beautiful, and all the colors? Amazing. Only Guardians of the Galaxy even compares visually and even then Wakandaâs beauty has something else to offer that space doesnât.
32-Â Actor/Actress Iâd like to be cast by Marvel
As mentioned above I pay literally zero attention to actors- its a personal choice not to spend time being a voyeur into other peopleâs lives and treat them like commodities to consume because I loath celebrity culture (and this isnât a slam to anyone who enjoys it, its more a slam to people who over engage in it- ie people who care enough to send death threats or paps basically). Anyways thatâs an opinion you didnât ask for, but because of that personal opinion I have no real cast choice lmao.
35-Â Most boring plotline?
I love Thor but all his movies. The first movie had good personal growth but eh. The second was an ok movie but forgettable (aside from my fav line from Loki in it), and unpopular opinion I hated Thor Ragarok. I mean it was funny. Thatâs all the good I have to say about it really. Though I have no idea why every comedy writers room is not leaping at a chance to get Taikia on their staff because the man is a comedic genius and thatâs honestly being impolite to his comedy skill. Still, as much as I like Thor I didnât really love any of his movies and all his villains were so fucking boring, even Loki wasnât that interesting till Avengers. Poor Thor, MCU did him dirty :(
37-Â Most well done character death
Peter P. I give this to him over Bucky because apparently most of that scene was improv? I cried over my spider son ok. Thereâs someone who was in that theater with me who heard me sob out âmy spider sonâ and went home to tell people about it. That shit was heartbreaking. Second runner up goes to TâChalla but I didnât think it was well done, I just thought it was sad as shit for Okoye and I love her so it was upsetting to see her lose her king :(
43-Â Characters I wish theyâve met
I donât understand the question :( I think itâs supposed to be âcharacters you wish would metâ but all my wishes were granted in IW. Tony and Stephen met and so did Tony and Quill. I shipped Tony with both characters before theyâd interacted on screen so it was nice to see :) Rhodey and Quill would be a fucking hoot together though, throw in Okoye and Valkyrie and youâve got a bunch of drunk overpowered people telling war stories or, in Quillâs case, stories about that time he stole some shit.
46-Â What characters outside of the Mcu Iâd like to see in a Marvel movie?
Ironheart, but I heard rumors they might do a movie with her. I think itâd be fun to have Riri in screen, especially since Peter is around her age. Iâd also love to see a Young Avengers movie or a Kamala Khan/ Ms. Marvel movie though apparently thereâs rumors of that too.
50-Â Characters that deserved better
Tony, Bucky, and Steve but all for different reasons. Steve deserves his fall from grace and not because I think he should suffer, but because keeping him on his pedestal means heâll never be able to fully process his trauma and move on. Allow him to fall, allow him to know he isnât perfect, then allow him to know that thatâs ok, he doesnât need to be, he just needs to do the best he can and then allow him a proper chance to move on.
Bucky because he deserves to be a character outside of Steve and, to a much smaller extent, Tony. Let the man have a movie about self actualization after trauma, let him figure out he isnât Steve Rogerâs best friend anymore (and that Steve isnât really Steve anymore) and that thatâs ok, they can both accept themselves as they exist now and still be friends. Let him develop hobbies outside of Steve, have him bond with Rhodey, he needs a good friend. Shit, let him bond with Sam too. Give me a buddy movie where Sam lowkey therapies Bucky into being a fuckin person again and Bucky finds some way to repay him. He can go beat up Scott for that time he kicked Samâs ass lol.
And Tony because the MCU makes fuckin everything his fault, even stuff that only somewhat involves him. They drive him to an absolute breaking point and then have the characters get pissed that he broke? The only one that I found acceptable was Pepper and thatâs mostly because I understand why sheâd be freaked out both by Tonyâs obsessive behavior and by nearly being eaten by one of his suits. She had her own shit she was dealing with post Mandarin so her I understand. Everyone else though? Mostly makes no sense. Why are you surprised that a person snaps when theyâre pushed to the limit? Thatâs how people work lmao but thatâs also because the writers make an active, and completely senseless, choice to have the characters react like Tonyâs mental health problems are a choice he made and now he has to suffer because he has PTSD or some shit. Idk, but AoU was the worst for it, and, to a lesser extend IM3 but I refuse to believe Rhodey would really tell Tony to get over himself after a panic attack- the man is emotionally intelligent ok, IM3 did Rhodey dirty.
54-Â 5 things I love most about: Tony
Tonyâs sheer level of wonder at the world around him- the look on his face in IM2 when he rediscovers that element perfectly encapsulates how he feels about learning and moving forward. (Flipside is that sometimes he has trouble staying in the present and that causes problems).
The way he tries no matter how badly he fails. Bih, if my random tests on a rock nearly ended the world Iâd out and out throw myself off a cliff. Instead he accepts his part in it (and more) and chooses to try and make the best of it. Heâs done that from the moment he got snatched by terrorists in Afghanistan. That in itself is basically a superpower.
His humor. I, too, hide my emotional distress under jokes so I can relate to being a lil bit of an asshole to hide how I feel. (Flipside: people donât think he takes stuff seriously- hence Steve in the Avengers).
His mental health problems. Ok this one is weird, but I can appreciate that someone drew up a hero that isnât based in perfection, but who tries to get there anyways. But the dude has problems, a lot of problems, and they arenât always pretty. But they are complicated and it is compelling to watch.
The way he builds relationships. Its unconventional- Rhodey is probably the only person heâs super close to that he met in a normal way. Happy and Pepper were both people that worked for him and instead of just being their boss he took the time to learn about them and get to know them on a personal level. Obviously he ended up engaged to Pepper, but a guy who knows what his driverâs favorite show is and why he likes it is a good dude. Heâd be nice to wait staff in restaurants.
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Oh gosh, Iâm so sorry these questions turned into essays D:
1. What was the first Marvel film youâve ever watched?
The Avengers, and I didnât like it lmao. I was like⌠seventeen maybe? A friend had worked really hard to get me to watch it and I found it boring. A big problem was Steve- I just found him boring and I had no context for Tony or the rest of the Avengers so I was like ok, superhero people do shit. Boring. When I got into it later (starting with the First Avenger) the film made more sense to me and felt less bleh minus Steve, but thatâs because Whedon canât fucking write him for shit not because of the character.
4. Whoâs your favourite Marvel superhero and why?
Boi if you donât know Tony Stark is my fav then I donât know what to tell ya lol. But Iâm assuming you asked for the why not the who. So as a general thing I donât like heroes. Theyâre all âwe do the right thing always because weâre The Most Morally Correct Alwaysâ. Its not relatable- Iâm straight up not that good of a person, no one is in my opinion, and their stories all follow the same boring arcs (Steve Rogers fits this personality type and arc very well post skinny!Steve until the latest MCU movies. But Superman is another very good example, and to a lesser extent Harry Potter too).
Point is these characters donât interest me because A- I canât relate to being The Best Ever, B- theyâre fucking boring and invite zero conflict or character development if theyâre already perfect, and C- their villains tend to have way more interesting backstories, motivations, and character arcs. Also villains tend to be coded as minorities (ie, Ursula from The Little Mermaid being based of a drag queen) so between the more interesting arcs, personalities, conflicts, and minority coded status Iâve always preferred the villain. I can relate to Magneto, who has a terrible goal but for a heartbreaking and even understandable reason. I understand him in a way I can never understand a Superman type. Heâs an anti-hero I know, but villains are always more interesting because their motivation isnât always Its The Right Thing with no other explanation as to why or how its right, which could be compelling but isnât ever written. And villains never start on a basis of perfection, effectively killing any and all development of character.
And then I watched Iron Man. Not only is Tony Stark a fucking disaster and a high functioning one at that, but heâs not always a good person. Its not that he means to hurt people, but he does, and then he learns. He makes mistakes, he sometimes doesnât see it right away, and when he does he tries not to repeat his behavior to avoid making those mistakes again. Tony is the first hero Iâve seen thatâs not supposed to be an anti-hero that does this. For the first time I got to watch a hero that isnât perfect, but heâs trying to do good even when he fails at it. Then he tries and tries again. Heroes never get those arcs because they tend to be built on perfection, but Tony is what a hero would look like in the real world- heâs tangible.Â
Not only that but thereâs so much about him that I find relatable beyond his general hero arc. Heâs sort of an asshole because its easier to hold people at an arms length than it is to let people in, he has trust issues, daddy issues, mental health problems that people donât necessarily see, and he hides his true nature under sarcasm and jokes. These are all traits I find in myself too, but ones I donât typically find in heroes, not to the extent theyâre written with Tony anyways. Again Tony is the first hero Iâve ever come across who has personality traits that donât always translate to âperfect person all the time no matter whatâ. Heâs a regular man with a real world personality trying his best even if he does have exaggerated traits (like his intelligence, especially, which is where most of his heroism extends from). And underneath all that heâs compassionate, caring, and generous not that he allows people to see that often.
TL;DR: Tony Stark is the first hero I saw with an actual personality youâd find in the real world and he isnât always perfect, which i found relatable and compelling.
5. Whoâs your least favourite Marvel superhero and why?
This is actually a pretty hard question. There are plenty of MCU characters I care about very little, and some I like a lot but hate the way theyâre handled, and some that are just fucking irrelevant so Iâll list 3 for 3 different reasons.
1- Clint Barton. I read Matt Fractionâs Hawkeye (and some of his other work- check him out!) and loved Hawkeye. Then I watched shit ass MCU Hawkeye and heâs a fucking OC with Clintâs name. Heâs an asshole, his motivations make no sense, I donât like Jermey Renner as a person or an actor, and I fucking hated that family in Age of Ultron because it makes no sense and doesnât fit into the rest of the universe. So I like Clint, but not fuckin MCU Clint because nothing about him makes sense.
2- Wanda. I love what she could be and her powers are so compelling and unlike most Tony fans I sympathize with her wanting him dead (but donât understand why she chose him over the people who dropped the bomb, the terrorists in her country, or at least doesnât hold blame in other wider structures that influenced her parentâs death like military personal, the POTUS, etc). Anyways- I like what Wanda could be, but not what she is. She whines and cries about being treated like a child while simutaniously throwing a temper tantrum, apparently doesnât put as much or potentially even more blame on Viz for being complicit in Tonyâs (shitty- no excuse for this) choice to keep her on the compound all because romance angle? And while I sympathize with her not wanting to hurt Viz in IW, thatâs a horrible position to be in, I donât understand why she didnât at least try and feel out a solution to save him while also destroying the stone until they made Shuri do it. One person you care about versus half the universe? Thatâs fucking harsh, Iâd never want to be there, but Iâm certain I could never be that selfish. So I lose someone I care about, half the universe doesnât get to feel the same way. Thatâs a win.
Thereâs a lot about her I do like though, and Iâll explore that again out of the context of World War Me, but as she stands her motivations and character actions donât make a lot of sense to me and it feels contrived just for plot points. She gets the shit end of the stick and Iâm convinced its linked to misogyny- its not like characters who arenât women get shunted like that Bruce Banner aside (one time versus Wandaâs entire character story).
3- Steve Rogers. Now donât get me wrong, in the recent movies heâs gone through some development- in CW he didnât even have an argument, he dropped his shield for Bucky, and then when he shows back up his speech to Ross is such a fuckin asshole thing to say/ do and its so disrespectful (and the fact that I care what he says to ROSS is saying something, but thatâs due to the wider implications and the fact that Steve would 100% say that to him pending alien invasion or no, not because its an emergency that influences why I even care). Anyways- his negative development is actually interesting! He is a character based in perfection and heâs gotten this amazing storyline thatâs made him selfish and sometimes also callus and cruel. Thatâs compelling, and his motivations! Amazing!Â
Thereâs so much the MCU can do with a man who canât adjust to the future, has PTSD, and doesnât know how to handle being in a moral situation that doesnât have a clear right answer- and it shows. To me these things are interesting, sometimes noble, and profoundly selfish in a way that actually makes a lot of sense considering the context and is a super interesting take on a character thatâs usually Perfect And Right All The Time. But instead of actually exploring his motivations, actions, and negative character development the MCU AND the fans treat him as this perfect dude who can do no wrong. This is fucking stupid- the guy is on a downward spiral into who fuckin knows what and instead of exploring this loss of identity, morality, and sense of self heâs treated as the moral compass! Are you fucking kidding me! This shit is so much more compelling than just making the dude right because youâre too fucking lazy to actually write him an argument and a reason behind it. And not acknowledging his negative development and giving me an interesting story (finally) about a hero whoâs always been perfect and just shoving him back into his Morally Perfect Always⢠role instead of exploring him in new, compelling ways personally victimizes me. So fuck the MCU for that and fuck the idiot fans (god thatâs bitter, sorry) who think heâs a true moral compass when at this point none of them are- and thatâs ok. Thatâs interesting to explore, creates conflict, and creates story.
This just makes me want to write a character study of Steve tbh. Maybe I will. Heâll actually get to go on a journey of his negative development then, and then come back from it in a meaningful way rather than just handed the Being Right Award that the lazy writers gave him.
Another TL;DR- Clint sucks because he sucks, but Steve and Wanda could have been so much more if the writers werenât jackasses.
8. Whoâs the strongest Avenger?
Wanda lmao. No argument there, the only one who even stood a chance against her is Vision and she put him down easily too. Which is why I think sheâs so interesting, but no, she gets handed stupid contrived storylines based in a romance no one cares about instead of exploring her power, origin story, motivations, and further development.
But yeah, no arguing that sheâs the strongest Avenger as far as raw power goes.
9. Any underrated Avenger? Any overrated Avenger?
Underrated avenger: Rhodey my dudes. First of all heâs a decently fleshed out, interesting character. Then you have this interesting background of him knowing the military isnât really perfect but still maintaining his interest in the military and being complicit in some of its actions, which I think is super compelling and Iâd like the MCU to explore that further. Plus youâve got his intelligence in engineering, his strategical genius, his loyalty, his compassion- heâs just a great dude. Heâs sassy too, which is always a plus. But then you get these weird moments in the MCU where they go back on his characterization- like in IM3 where he basically tells Tony to get over himself after a panic attack. Thatâs so OOC- firstly even if heâs never seen a panic attack (doubtful, in the military) heâs a naturally compassionate guy, and especially so to Tony. So where the fuck was that? You will never convince me that thereâs a solid reason for that- he spent 3 fuckin months tracking his best friend down only to tell him to get over himself while having a panic attack? And what even WAS that scene in CW when Steve came back? And that scene where he was totes cool with Thor strangling Tony?
This poor man is so underrated the MCU contributes to his being underrated by using him as a plot device instead of an actual fuckin character (quite like Wanda, and theyâre both minorities. Hmm). Anyways Rhodey does not get enough love, nor does his status as a hero outside of Tony get enough love, NOR does his friendship with Tony get enough love, and his potential romantic connections with Tony also donât get enough love. His sass, compassion, and his interesting participation in a system he knows doesnât always to the right thing, and occasional complicity in this, also doesnât get enough love. And the MCU can eat my turds for ignoring who he is as a character just to use him as a plot device.
Overrated character- Ok this is gunna be so mean lmao I love him so much I swear but Bucky. Why the this is this bland ass white dude with 3 half personality traits and literally nothing outside of Steveâs character even liked? He is the male Sharon Carter and honestly thatâs unfair to Sharon because she at least has SHIELD and spying as personal interests, what the fuck does Bucky have? HYDRA control, which is literally nothing. Heâs almost never an active character, heâs barely even constructed as a character, and has nothing outside of Steve to make him compelling at all.
He is objectively so fucking bland that a couple days ago I realized that when I write Bucky Iâm taking his 3 traits from the MCU and literally constructing an OC because Bucky is nowhere near developed enough as a character to even write. Heâs also a plot device and used as motivation for Steve. Poor dude doesnât even have interests outside Steve. How he got to be so massively popular, including to me, I have no idea because objectively speaking he is one of the least interesting characters in the MCU- its everyone else around him that makes his story interesting. Seriously. If Steve wasnât his friend and Tonyâs parents werenât his parents would we even care about him at all?Â
A good character still stands if you take the people around them away- take that away from Bucky and his story loses all meaning because it isnât important to Bucky, its important to the people around him. Like his story is sad, but the emotional impact of what happens to him doesnât even come from us caring about him, it comes from us caring about the people around him. Granted people are overly attached to him so it worked out in the MCUâs favor and the writers wonât need to make him an active, interesting protagonist because people read into him finding things that arenât there, and seriously I swear I love Bucky, but he really is a stale, uninteresting character if I actually examine him on his own rather than in the wider context of the events heâs a part of.
TL;DR- love Rhodey you heathens, and while I love Bucky I donât know why because he isnât interesting if you look at his story on its own due to its complete lack of emotional impact on him rather than the characters around him.
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