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pinetreequestionmark · 9 months ago
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I find it interesting that so many people, including the writers of the games themselves, have apollo as trucy's magical assistant, often unwilling. Thing is, you can not have an untrained and especially not unwilling magician's assistant. Sure, you can call up an audience member to do a trick or two, but A: they need to play along at least a little or they risk ruining the trick, and 2: the entire time someone who isn't in on the magic is on stage it massively reduces your options for tricks, since you have to do stuff whose good sightlines someone in the middle of the fucking stage. An actual magician's assistant often does more of the tricks than the magician themselves, as their job is to subtly do things while the magician draws attention by being entertaining. So if apollo is being trucy's 'wonderful assistant' than you bet your ass he's at all the fucking rehearsals and he also knows how all the tricks work. Which I can believe, he is a gramarye after all.
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theic-manic · 10 months ago
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Tarot Hellenic Deity Communication Post that should probably be a book someday.
Hello, Feeling inspired by some other posts about Deity identification via tarot I wanted to tweak their ideas and add some additional strategies that help me. This is a devotional post to two of my patron Gods, Lord Apollon and Lord Hermes, who are assisting me with my Oracular duties. Praise Apollo and Hermes.
Post index:
My Background
Some notes about this post
The Major Arcana: Intro
The Major Arcana Deities
The Minor Arcana Part 1: How to incorporate the Minor Arcana
The Minor Arcana Part 2: The Suits
The Minor Arcana: Part 3: The Courts Pentacles Swords Wands Cups
The Minor Arcana part 4: Notable Pip Cards
A Note on Gender
A Note on Symbolism
What the Hermes? (important!)
Deity Communication troubleshooting
How to incorporate Shufflemancy as a Tarot reading clarifier (link to another post)
Notable sources (used in addition to my own knowledge & research) My background: I started Tarot at the age of 11 (2001) and own dozens of different tarot and oracle decks, my exposure to various interpretations over almost 2.5 decades has allowed me to appreciate the nuances in interpretations and even assigned deities. As such, while I do know the broader meanings of each card, I also check the interpretation provided by various deck creators as their own divine guidance adds to my work. E.g. The Tower in my Murder of Crows deck has a very different vibe to The Tower in my Gold Lyre tarot deck. I will be covering deck design nuance after the list of card deities. Some notes about this post: Firstly: I will only be listing Hellenic deities as I currently work with the Hellenic Gods and while I have worked with the Kemetic Gods briefly, I have a distant while cordial relationship with them. I had worked with the Norse Gods for 3-4 years prior to moving to my current locale, however I acknowledge that my time with them has passed (at least for now) and I want to limit this to one pantheon. Secondly: In some of the other posts that assign deities to tarot cards, I found it odd that they would assign say, Freyja to some cards but not Aphrodite, arguably Freyja's Greek counterpart. As such, I will be taking care to check that I don't miss any deities due to these overlaps however this means that some deities will be gaining more cards than typically assigned. Note that some of the Gods of other pantheons have multiple equivalents in the Hellenic Pantheon so in the case that occurs, I will do my best to select whichever one already has their Hellenic equivalent listed by other sources and in cases that hasn't occurred, I will select/assign whichever Hellenic God/s best fit the card.
Thirdly: I won't be assigning deities to each of the numbered minor arcana for a couple of reasons; 1. Not all decks have imagery for these cards except for literal pentacles, wands, swords or cups images 2. While I prefer the Rider-Waite approach to providing story images to these minor cards, said images can be distracting to one's intuition or may add to the confusion. However I will explain how to incorporate these cards into your readings to gain clarity, especially if you draw Major Arcana that can be assigned to a couple of potential deities.
Finally: I will be adding the concept of Shufflemancy at the very bottom. This is optional but I find that it can really add to a reading... however as an Apollo and Hermes devotee I am a tad biased.
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The Tarot Cards:
Major Arcana
The Fool: Pan, Hermes, Dionysus, Apollo, Morpheus
The Magician: Hermes, Apollo, Empusai
The High Priestess: Hekate, Selene, Artemis, Persephone, Aphrodite, Medusa, Melinoe, Lamia, Empusai
The Empress: Aphrodite, Hera, Demeter, Lamia, Empusai The Emperor: Zeus, Ares, Hades, Apollo
The Hierophant: Apollo, Athena, Hermes
The Lovers: Aphrodite & Ares, Eros & Psyche, Dionysus, Pan, Hades & Persephone, Lamia, Empusai The Chariot: Helios, Apollo, Hermes, Ares, Nike, Athena, Lamia Strength: Athena, Artemis, Medusa The Hermit: Kronos, Prometheus, The Muses*, Hades, Hermes, Hekate * The Muses appearing may also be a more subtle Apollo sign, use surrounding cards to guide your interpretation here. Wheel of Fortune: The Moirai*, Zeus, Hermes, Tyche, Morpheus * The Moirai are the triplet daughters of Kronos & Nyx or Zeus & Themis depending on which lore you refer to. They were also on friendly terms with Apollo and worshipped with Apollo at a number of shrines & temples. As such, please check surrounding cards carefully to determine which Hellenic deity/ies this acts as a confirmation card for. I would not rely on this card alone to confirm a deity's presence. Also pay attention to card imagery & any notes from the deck creator in the accompanying booklet if applicable.
Justice: Zeus, Athena, Themis
The Hanged Man: Artemis, Prometheus, Demeter, Poseidon, Hermes, Morpheus
Death: Persephone, Thanatos, Hades, Hekate, Melinoe, Lamia, Empusai
Temperance: Artemis, Iris, Apollo, Hades.
The Devil: Dionysus, Pan, Ares,
The Tower: Ares, Demeter, Eris, Perses.
The Star: Aphrodite, Hermes, Nyx, Astrea
The Moon: Artemis, Hekate, Selene, Morpheus. Medusa, Melinoe, Lamia, Empusai
The Sun: Apollo, Helios, Brigid, Eos
Judgement: Persephone, Hades, Hephaestus, Metatron, Nemisis
The World: Hermes, Nike, Gaia, Kronos, Athena, Demeter, Arachne
The Minor Arcana:
Intro:
As mentioned at the beginning, I won't be assigning deities to every single minor arcana card however I will be assigning deities to the suits, court cards & a few notable numbered cards to assist with deity identification.
Part 1: The Suits
Wands: Ares, Apollo, Eros, Hermes*
Swords: Ares, Athena, Hades, Athena, Hermes* , Poseidon*
Pentacles: Gaia, Demeter, Hephaestus, Athena
Cups: Aphrodite, Hermes* *Refer to Part 2b
Part 2a: The Courts Pentacles:
Pages: Pan, The Muses, Apollo Knights: Athena, Artemis, Demeter Queens: Persephone. Gaia, Demeter Kings: Hades, Chiron, Pan Swords:
Pages: Athena, Nike, Arachne Knights: Athena, Hermes Queens: Hekate. Athena, Themis, Melinoe Kings: Hephaestus, Hermes
Wands:
Pages: Apollo, Artemis, Athena Knights: Apollo, Orpheus Queens: Aphrodite, Hestia Kings: Zeus, Ares, Apollo
Cups:
Pages: Aphrodite, Eros Knights: Aphrodite Queens: Hera Kings: Poseidon, Dionysus
Part 2b: Notable Pip cards (Ace-10) Certain Pip cards of the Minor Arcana have strong deity connections based on their traditional meanings. I will not be covering the meanings as there are enough books covering this.
Aces: Pentacles- Demeter, Gaia, Swords- Athena, Nike Wands- Pan, Aphrodite and/or Ares, Apollo Cups - Aphrodite, The Nesoi, Eros
9 of Pentacles: Persephone 10 of Pentacles: Hephaestus, Arachne
2 of Swords: Hekate 3 of Swords: Hermes 4 of Swords: Arachne 5 of Swords: Ares, Eris, Melinoe 7 of Swords: Hermes 8 of Swords: Athena, Eris, Arachne 10 of Swords: Poseidon
3 of Wands: Hermes 5 of Wands: Hephaestus 8 of Wands: Dionysus 10 of Wands: Hephaestus
2 of Cups: Hermes with the caduceus, this can also clarify a divine partnership (Hades & Persephone, Ares & Aphrodite etc.) 8 of Cups: Nereus, Melinoe 10 of cups: Nike
Part 3: How to incorporate the minor Arcana
Whenever I am reaching out to deities via Tarot I do this in two stages. Stage 1: Deity identification Stage 2: What they want me to know (this is when a structured spread would be appropriate or simply apply traditional interpretations to the cards). Stage 1: With Deity identification stage I am purely interested in identifying who is in my room/orbit/astral right now but as you likely picked up in the Major Arcana list, many deities share cards and this can become confusing, especially if you draw cards that share the same gods. Solution: Look at the minor Arcana cards and which deities they align with to clarify which God is likely reaching out to you either via direct correspondence or relationship. Examples: 1. Sometimes I will draw Major arcana that are typically associated with Hermes & Apollo (makes sense as they're my patron gods) however if I also draw some wands* then I will typically sense that it is more Apollo that is reaching out whereas if swords pop out, or the 2 of cups, then I am getting a Hermes vibe. (*8 of wands is the one wands card I'd assign to Hermes due to its meaning) 2. If I draw some cards assigned to Ares and another God but draw some cups minor Arcana, I will then lean towards this being Ares as cups are associated with Aphrodite. I then consider how the minor arcana + Major Arcana identifiers act as Deity aspect (or vibe) identifiers. E.g. Ares Major Arcana + Cups cards will likely indicate to me that I am getting Ares' softer side. However if I get Ares + Swords, then I am likely being shown his more traditional warlike nature. If I draw Wands cards, then this is typically aligning with some more passionate energy from Ares. And this is when I gather the cards, reshuffle and commence stage 2 where I am seeking what message/s the identified God/s would like me to know. Even when I draw Major arcana in these readings, I will stick to their traditional interpretations rather than deity correspondences. This assists in me receiving a clearer message.
A Note on Gender:
If you are using a gender themed deck (e.g. a Goddess tarot deck) this may make deity identification more challenging for you as you could potentially mistake the identify of a deity depending on the style of the deck. If however you are confident with interpreting tarot or just work with goddesses or gods, that's cool too. Deities sometimes may appear as a gender not typically assigned to them as they find this is an easier way for you to connect with them.
Pages & Knights are gender neutral, so take their pictorial representation with a grain of salt if that helps.
A note on Symbolism: Some decks may have symbols to help you better discern which deity is reaching out, especially with cards that share numerous gods so please pay attention to the illustrations of the major arcana in addition to the clarifying minor arcana cards. Certain themed decks may make this easier or more difficult however if like me you own many tarot decks then the deck you feel called to use is a sign in itself. E.g. Whenever I feel drawn to my Golden Lyre deck, I know that Apollo and Hermes are going to show up (& they do). If I feel drawn to my Vlad the Dracula, Diablo or another "dark" deck, this to me has Ares energy. Ultimately, much of this depends on your connection with the divine, how you best communicate (e.g. which clair-sense is strongest for you), your physical & mental health and ongoing practice with the Gods and honing your intuition.
What the Hermes?! Hermes wanted me to mention that if you see a lot of his cards (you likely noticed that he is associated with many tarot cards) this means either a) your deity has an urgent message that they need him to deliver to you, b) the deity reaching out does not have very good history with one of your patron gods so he is delivering their message to keep the peace or c) the deity is just not good at communicating via tarot (see below)
Deity communication troubleshooting:
The cards are a real mixed bag and/or nothing makes sense: You might be tired, hungry, dehydrated or just not ready to receive messages.
Some Gods take longer than others to "talk": Oracular deities and deities with a decent history with Oracles & the likes are very vocal through tarot for me whereas other deities aren't very good at communicating through tarot & perhaps another method would be best such as Shufflemancy, meditation, tea leaves, automatic writing or a range of other methods. E.g. Ares takes a while to talk to me through tarot and that's often because 1. Apollo is very loud & Ares likes to... give him space and 2. There appear to be some stories of Ares potentially having poor experiences with oracles, e.g. an Oracle allegedly directing the people of various places in southern Asia Minor or the likes to bind Ares' statue in chains and even an annual rite involving this to force him into being more peaceful...  The oracle promises that "thus will he become a peaceful deity for you, once he has driven the enemy horde far from your country, and he will give rise to prosperity much prayed for." Wikipedia I'll admit my ignorance with much of Greek mythology however upon learning more about Ares' history with Apollo and certain Oracle cults I have learned to be more understanding of him taking longer to communicate this way. Even writing this & feeling my back hurt I can sense Ares' disapproval of Hermes & Apollo guiding me to write this post.
How to incorporate Shufflemancy as a Tarot reading clarifier:
Notable sources (used in addition to my own knowledge & research): https://backyardbanshee.com/tarot/deities-associated-with-tarot-cards/
Updates made July 14 2024:
I have started to add the lesser-known deities such as Medua, Lamia, Empusai, Arachne and Melinoe and will slowly add the others. Please comment or DM any Hellenic deity or spirit requests to be added.
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found-family-tournament · 2 years ago
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Found Family Tournament Round 2 Part 9 Group 42
Propaganda and further images under the cut
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Wright Anything Agency (& Company): Phoenix & Trucy Wright, Apollo Justice, Maya Fey, Miles Edgeworth, Pearl Fey, Ema Skye, Kay Faraday & Sebastian Debeste
221B Fam: Ryunosuke Naruhodo, Susato Mikotoba, Herlock Sholmes, Iris Wilson, Wagahai (& Gina Lestrade, Yujin Mikotoba, Kazuma Asogi, Barok van Zieks)
Wright Anything Agency (& Company):
THEY MEAN THE WORLDDDDD TO MEEEEEE for some reason a lot of people in the fandom don't play Ace Attorney 5 which is fair since it's kind of messy BUT. BUT. IT INTRODUCES ATHENA AND DOES SOOOO MUCH FOR THE WRIGHT ANYTHING AGENCY. In AA4 we learn that Trucy Wright made the Wright Talent Agency into the Wright Anything Agency in order to bring Apollo in as a lawyer when before it was just her (a magician) and her adopted father Phoenix (a poker player). and AA5 is all about Athena joining and Apollo learning how to trust her, at least it is to ME. they're so gooddddd aaaaaaa like you've got Phoenix and Trucy who are weirdos who love to scheme and you've got Apollo their longsuffering guy who deals with it all, and Phoenix is the mentor... and then Athena comes in and she has a lot of light and determination and trauma (just like the rest of them lol) and she's SO determined and I like her a lot!! And Trucy is my favorite and Phoenix cares about her SO much but he also has his other found family in the Feys!!!!!! Mia dies in the first game but her ghost stays with Phoenix and her sister/cousin Maya and Pearl are SO IMPORTANT TO HIM he loves them so much that's his sisters to me ;-; he would do anything for them and Trucy and he's growing as a mentor to Apollo and Athena too as the game progress... They don't write them all perfectly but they sure do a lot of things I like :) also feel free to split this up into their Wright Anything Agency or Phoenix + the Feys or Phoenix + Trucy if you need to I won't mind I just love AA's found family a lot
Picture this. You are a attorney in your mid 20s and somehow find yourself surrounded by weird little girls with every case you take on. You officially adopt one but really, all of them are either sisters or daughters to you. Especially your loud, burger-loving lesbian sister. Your childhood friend turned rival turned lover, who has a whip-wielding adoptive sister of his own, goes on a series of investigations while messing around with a furry for a couple of weeks and returns with two 17 year old children, a thieving lesbian and a child with a narcissistic murderer for a father who should've kept him back in school a few grades. Your lover has each of them under an arm, and they are appended to your stable of weird little girls but are very much hidden in the back. Then you find out that your daughter, the official one, has a 22yo trans half-brother with a musical diva mother and was half raised as a prince in Khura'in, so you divorce his boss (who is not your official lover, you just had a weird thing for a while when you were in your alcoholic phase, maybe while your actual lover was still messing around with the furry) very publicly while sending him to prison for murdering your daughter's father. Oh, but you have been disbarred, so you make your daughter's son send his own boss to prison, by planting false evidence on him. Of course the young man punches you in the face. Needless to say he works for you for a couple of years and never finds out that he's related to your daughter because that would require a straightforward conversation, now wouldn't it?
only one of them has never been arrested. only two of them arent lawyers. theyre all gay
Theyre very weird and misteruous and kinda fucked up a bit and they were through a lot but phoenix did his best and trucy well she's still just a kid but oh she's trying so fucking hard and always trying to wear a smile and it's breaking my heart the two of them. Also theyre weird i already said that but let me say it again they are WEIRD. and we love them<3 (the ace attorney fandom)
221B Fam:
I dont have much to say i am just constantly rotating them in my mind BUT i have to say the the last image i attached contains like MAJOR spoilers lol i just wanted the canon images in there
Ace Attorney has some wonderful found families, but this one's particularly special because of their circumstances. An exchange student and his unhinged weirdgirl assistant from Japan feeling so out of place in turn-of-the-century Great Britain, yet finding a completely batshit insane family during their time there...it's just so <3 <3 <3 Also Ryunosuke calls them "the greatest family in the world" and it makes my heart happy. Also they commit lots of crimes
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jinxedshapeshifter · 2 months ago
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Trucy's Characterization Never Changed: An Essay
Originally I was going to do an essay on all the characters that had flanderization accusations thrown at them but then I decided to focus on Trucy because Trucy.
First of all, here's the link to the TVTropes page for flanderization. It doesn't apply to Trucy in my opinion. You can't flanderize a magician when that's been a central part of her characterization from the beginning. With that out of the way, onto me basically proving TVTropes is wrong about Trucy being flanderized.
Part 1: Trucy's Characterization in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Trucy's a bit of an eccentric magician from the beginning. She experiences negative emotions but she hides it incredibly well, especially for a 15 year old. She's so good at hiding her emotions that it's a plot point in The Magical Turnabout but I'll get to that later.
Trucy shows concern over Apollo breaking down after Trucy fakes her own kidnapping, she shows concern for Lamiroir throughout Turnabout Serenade, and she shows concern for Klavier while Kristoph is testifying. She just usually hides it almost immediately after showing it. Let's look at the two scenarios where Trucy does show concern for someone else, but hides it immediately after; those being when Apollo finds her after she stages her kidnapping, and when Kristoph is testifying:
She tells Apollo not to cry and almost immediately threatens him playfully. Instead of outwardly showing concern, she tries to cheer him up then he threatens to press charges and she explains everything to him. The fact that she staged her own kidnapping to get a recess in the first place is evidence enough that she was worried about Apollo, specifically him not being able to identify when a witness is nervous.
She tells Apollo "Prosecutor Gavin's on the warpath, isn't he?" and justifies it with Klavier being nervous because Kristoph's watching. When you press the next statement, Trucy says Klavier and Kristoph are like a "two-man wrecking team" and doesn't take it quite as seriously. Press Kristoph's final statement and Trucy will voice concern for Klavier again ("Does Prosecutor Gavin seem strange to you, too? It's like he's all grown-up…") and she continues to flip between visible concern and nonchalance. Also worth noting is she also gets visibly concerned when Klavier freaks out on Vera. She also voices concern for Vera at this point.
None of this is to say people are saying Trucy doesn't express concern at all. I'm trying to give a picture of how Trucy tends to express concern; that being, something comes up that concerns her, she expresses that concern, and then she keeps going like nothing's wrong (this applies to more than just concern, it's just easiest to exhibit with how she shows concern). It's not because she doesn't care, it's because she just tends to hide her emotions behind a smile, something that's referenced by Phoenix himself at the end of the game.
Also worth noting is that if she wants to, she will bring things back to her magic show. I would think the fact that she brings up her magic panties whether it's relevant or not just to mess with Apollo is proof enough of this.
Part 2: Trucy's Characterization in Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice
Getting this out of the way now, she's not an airhead after AJ:AA. She is consistently intelligent. I have never once thought she's not. Like just as examples:
First and foremost, because this really makes me wonder where this claim came from, both Athena and Apollo are shocked to find that Trucy was conned into signing a different contract than the one she thought she signed in The Magical Turnabout. Athena specifically says "It couldn't have been easy fooling Trucy. That girl's no slouch!" and Apollo says "It's not everybody who can fool our Trucy." Actually I could make The Magical Turnabout an entire bullet point on its own considering the entire plot is "how the fuck did this guy con Trucy"
Let's also mention Turnabout Revolution. I'm like 99.99% sure her goal was just to get on the plane without being seen, otherwise she wouldn't have popped up at the end of the case. As long as she got on the plane without anyone finding out, she'd be fine because there is no way they were going to turn back JUST because Trucy snuck onto the flight. If anything I actually think Edgeworth is the idiot in this situation for falling for something Trucy's apparently pulled on him multiple times. The important thing here though is that she snuck on the plane in Edgeworth's suitcase. She could've snuck on in anyone's suitcase and she chose Edgeworth's, and I think there's a very specific reason for this. Trucy was present when Klavier said prosecutors don't have to go through the same security checks as everyone else, and if we assume Trucy knew this, yeah, of course she snuck on the plane in Edgeworth's suitcase. Was it pointless? Possibly, depending on whether Phoenix, Apollo, Dhurke, and Athena had to go through security checks. But Trucy still chose the person whose luggage was least likely to be checked and she apparently does it enough that Edgeworth isn't surprised to find out about it.
Trucy can throw knives with such perfect precision that she prevents Cosmos from scootering away while she's investigating the space center with Phoenix, something she reacts to with "And the streak continues!" implying she's been throwing knives at moving targets for a while at that point (behind Phoenix's back, I might add). Throwing knives at a target is one thing, throwing knives at the tires of a moving vehicle is another and it makes me wonder how much she practiced. Either way she'd have to know exactly how to throw a knife to puncture the tire of a moving vehicle because she very specifically used a knife to puncture the tire of Cosmos's segway. Precision isn't the only factor into this, she needs to know exactly how much force to put behind her throw. She might've just guessed at that for all we know, because it's almost impossible for her to know exactly how much force to throw a knife with to puncture that tire without having thrown a knife at the exact same type of tire. Like. GIRL
When I saw the claim that she turns every conversation around to her magic show, I was like "surely that's an exaggeration and she does that because Phoenix wants her to focus on school instead of going out and investigating with Apollo" and checked the transcript for The Monstrous Turnabout. Guess what, I was right, for The Monstrous Turnabout at least. It's either relevant to something, the conversation didn't have a solid topic in the first place, or she's passive-aggressively complaining about not being able to join investigations (because the reason discussions with her were usually on topic in AJ:AA is because she was Apollo's investigative partner).
Like did we forget that presenting something and an irrelevant tangent happening isn't new in the Ace Attorney universe? Kay and Lang get into a powerscaling debate about wolves and ravens because Lang was presented with Kay's Yatagarasu pin. Trucy's been pulling the magic card on Apollo when he presents something since she was introduced. Athena and Apollo get into a powerscaling debate about Tenma Taro and the Nine-Tailed Fox (which is tangentially related to the case at best). I'm pretty sure Maya has moments like this.
Trucy's tangents just get more plentiful because she's not investigating the crimes and she herself implies she's annoyed about it. I've never met someone who likes doing schoolwork, why wouldn't she focus on her magic if she can't investigate crimes and it's between schoolwork and magic (which, mind you, is her job that she gets paid to do)? It feels less like "Trucy's whole personality is being a magician" and more like "mutual 'what are you working on' exchanges between coworkers" because as I said, magic is Trucy's job.
To put it another way, magic is to Trucy what law and psychology are to Apollo and Athena respectively. "But Athena doesn't talk about psychology near as much as Trucy talks about magic!" She's Apollo's investigative partner. She knows what's going on in the investigation which makes it easier for her to stick to the topic of the investigation. If she wasn't involved in an investigation, I can almost guarantee she'd start psychoanalyzing Apollo and Phoenix. This is opposed to Trucy, who has no idea what's going on aside from what Apollo and Athena tell her because she's not involved. Like there's very much a reason most conversations with her go to magic after AJ:AA. What else is she going to talk to Apollo, Phoenix, and Athena about? She's not involved in the investigations. That fact is implied to annoy her.
Like I said, Trucy bringing up magic when you talk to her during investigations just feels like some kind of "how's work going" exchange, which, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that normal in workplaces like the Wright Anything Agency? The only difference is that Trucy's job is vastly different from everyone else in the agency. Apollo and/or Athena tell Trucy how the investigation's going, so she shows them how her magic is going in the most inconvenient way possible. It's funny and I love her for it.
And she still hides how she's feeling behind a smile. Presumably because she's so used to a smile convincing people she's fine, she's surprised when Apollo's bracelet reacts to her saying she's fine. She actually explains why she does this in The Magical Turnabout; the Gramarye creed is "A true entertainer always keeps a smile on their face" and Trucy's been living under that since her debut (she also explains this; she sees it as a way of keeping Zak alive). She does this twice in Dual Destinies; once with Athena and once with Apollo. We can also assume she did this when Aura was holding her hostage, since she says she performed magic tricks for the rest of Aura's hostages to keep everyone's spirits up. Let's break down the times she does this in Dual Destinies though.
The first time is in The Cosmic Turnabout, after Apollo gets attacked by Tonate. Phoenix teases Trucy about not being able to tease Apollo anymore and even that doesn't get a reaction from her, which prompts Phoenix to say it's been a while since he last saw her so down. When she does finally talk, it's to say they should take Starbuck's defense to "avenge our fallen comrade" (Apollo). Not really sure if it's relevant but I do think it's worth mentioning that Athena is the one who cheers her up here.
The second time is in Turnabout for Tomorrow, after Athena's arrested under suspicion of Clay's murder. Here she's masking her feelings about both Apollo's estrangement from the Wright Anything Agency and Athena's arrest, but it's actually implied that she's more upset about Apollo leaving (which I'm going to guess is because she's closer to Apollo and she knows Athena's in good hands with Phoenix defending her). Trucy is so upset about Apollo leaving the agency that she blames herself for him leaving in the first place (specifically wondering out loud to Phoenix if her roping him into her magic tricks is why he left). She's so worried about Apollo that she stays back when Phoenix leaves the space center to keep an eye on Apollo, which is what results in her being held hostage. To reiterate, she was so worried about Apollo that she basically ditched Phoenix to keep an eye on him and ended up one of Aura's hostages as a result.
I also want to mention that Trucy explicitly says during the credits of AJ:AA that she feels like she found her "long-lost, big, little brother" and she is all but stated to have abandonment issues from the age of eight (something I say because she's worried that Phoenix is going to leave her like Zak did when Phoenix basically adopts Trucy on the spot). Look at her reactions to Apollo leaving the agency and Apollo staying in Khura'in with that in mind and it just makes it even more heartbreaking. Trucy even asks if they're really going to see Apollo again when Apollo says he's staying in Khura'in. She feels like she just found her long-lost brother again (and she did, she just doesn't know it), I think him just leaving without much warning (TWICE within six months of each other) probably triggered her abandonment issues.
Part 3: Conclusion Because There's Definitely More I Could Say But I Don't Know What. I'll add to this later. maybe
This is more of a ramble about how I don't think Trucy's characterization changed at all after AJ:AA but I will do a proper analysis of Trucy at some point, especially because I really want to analyze her dynamic with Apollo. I don't even really know how much sense this makes (which seems to be really common with these but it's fine. I'm okay with that) but I will be analyzing Trucy again, I promise. She needs a hug so bad
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ashoss · 10 months ago
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For the bat x pjo thing, I’ve always loved the idea of Jason as a son of poseidon. I know that one’s probably overdone, but I love it a lot!
Just think about it—he’s got the looks, the sheer physical and probably even mystical power, the changeability���he’s just as intelligent as Percy believes he (Percy) isn’t, especially strategically. He was resurrected during heavy rain, which could be an explanation, like Poseidon’s upset his kid died so he’s sending rain to bring him back. He died in the desert, where there’s not a lot of water, and I know it’s a lazarus pit, but he regained his faculties in the water, and in both the comics and the movie, he’s extremely disoriented and falls/is pushed off a cliff into a body of water—but more than that, even if he preempts betrayal later on by leaving first, he is EXTREMELY loyal and will do anything for his friends.
I don’t know if you’ve already heard it, but you should really listen to Ruthlessness from Epic the Musical, with Jason confronting Bruce with the Joker in mind. It’s perfect for that, and that’s actually how I got the idea before I read anything on AO3 with Jason as a son of poseidon.
And I love the idea of Roy as a son of Athena too, you know, extremely clever, invents things but also fights very well, and, even if he’s not great at lying as a leader, is a very good leader anyway. (Kori and Bizarro have their own things, but Artemis, even though she is from Bana-Mighdall, is still descended from the greek amazons, and could be a legacy of a child of Athena, Ares, or Apollo).
And yeah, okay, I feel like Damian kinda has to be a legacy or something, BUT what if he were more like Carter Kane in The Red Pyramid? A vessel for Horus, or something, but a powerful warrior-magician nonetheless.
For Dick, I really liked in your other one him as a child of Hermes, but I feel like a son of Astrape, goddess of lightning, would work better. Astrape for sheer, you know, flashy power that still puts you on your ass, and arcs through the sky even if it can’t fly on its own necessarily (although that’s just a lot more representative, of course his abilities would be the result of hard work, as usual). And the fact that Astrape and Bronte are in Zeus’ entourage, and his shield/weapons bearers just fits Batman and Robin’s first thing and then Nightwing and Batman’s whole thing after very well, I think.
As for Tim? I honestly think he should just be a clear sighted mortal. He’s never seemed that much like any one child of anything to me.
Stephanie as the daughter of Dionysus is just inspired, and I can’t believe I never thought of it!
And Alfred I feel like would be, even if not the son of anyone, or a legacy, a sort of disciple of Hestia or something.
Babs I just love as a daughter of Athena, but also, she’s kind of taken the role of Oracle for herself, and I was thinking, you know, she should be a clear sighted mortal who became the oracle of Delphi, like Rachel.
And Cass I love as the daughter of Nike, but I feel like a daughter of Hades just fits her so well! Disappears into shadows, often called quite creepy and yet has no patience for what she sees as trivial when she could be attacking something with her fists instead (and has something against contributing to the overpopulation of her father’s realm 😆).
And Duke I liked in the other one too, able to see something vaguely…Other about his foster family, and the gods already seeming much too bright, but just with his meta ability.
Heh, I know I focussed a lot on Jason and the Outlaws, but they are very much my blorbos 😅.
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god i do really love Poseidon kid Jason (especially if we give Jason more of the earthshaker powers). he's definitely very similar to Percy in a lot of ways like you mentioned. HOWEVER while you bring up a LOOOT of good points for Poseidon kid Jason i think i want to stray away from having any of the batkids being kids of the big three? i feel like it might to into like,, mary sue territory (even though they're not really OCs but I'm lowkey kinda strict with my PJO aus and want to stick as close to canon as possible - meaning the big three only broke their oaths to not have kids with Percy, Jason and Thalia.) maybe ill do another au or something with Poseidon kid Jason because i really do love it lol
Athena kid Roy is interesting! unfortunately i don't know much abt Roy himself to really refute it or anything
as for Damian i definitely was playing with him being a magician, and maybe a legacy on Talias side? I'm not too sure on that part.
Astrape kid dick is also interesting! i haven't really looked at any of the more minor gods/goddesses for any of them but i can def see it! it's taking some of the traits of Zeus and toning them down a bit without really taking away the power. i still think I'm kinda attached to Hermes kid dick, but if we really want to give him flight we can give him the shoes similar to the ones Luke gave Percy in tlt
honestly mortal Tim does make sense and can also play into his insecurities on not being enough to fit dick or Jason's shoes as robin, since he's not a demigod he's just a regular kid. (however i think i am attached to Aphrodite kid Tim now lol but i do think mortal Tim could be good)
i think i may need a bit more swaying on Dionysus kid Stephanie but i do think its cool - it's definitely something i haven't seen before.
and yes i think Babs should just be a clearsighted mortal no matter how much i like Athena kid Babs. i did really want to play into the oracle name itself and her being the oracle of Delphi is good (however i don't really think her being the oracle itself - like Rachel- would fit in the au? unless they were all at camp i don't really know. i don't think the batfamily themselves need an oracle ? maybe she could be blessed (or cursed) by apollo )
i do like hades kid Cass but like i said with dick i kinda don't want any of them to be kids of the big three. but i think it fits her character - especially with her being a bit creepy as black bat/batgirl. but it might be interesting in terms of her childhood - if David was aware of her parentage he might have had higher hopes for this killing machine he wanted. this child of hades who is a master at reading body language and could kill with the touch of a hand? it could also tie into her adverseness of death itself - because she couldn't handle the feeling of death because of two contributing factors - her understanding of death through her hades powers (like Nico) and her understanding of body language. (hmmm maybe i might make an exception of my refusal of big three kids for hades Cass)
and yes!! i love the ideas of just meta Duke with no godly influence. it might be interesting for him to not be clearsighted - but that could bring in more ideas for how his powers affect his life. do you think he could see the outline or the shadow of a monster? or that his new foster family's eyes tend to glow slightly too bright and there seems to be something golden in their veins? maybe one of them could have some control of the mist like hazel does and would lift the mist later on for duke.
very good takes!! you're definitely making me think about these tho lol
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cornertheculprit · 3 months ago
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i think apollo being like "i'll believe in you no matter what because that's what being a good lawyer is about!" to trucy in the magical turnabout after spending two games being the most doubtful person in existence as a result of his first trial is another instance of aa6's bad writing, but i think if you consider the fact that apollo immediately tacks on "mr. wright taught me as much" after he says it, it could be interpreted as him primarily trying to make trucy feel better by bringing up her dad. ESPECIALLY since not two seconds later apollo is actually acting more in-character by questioning "............ (Could she really have [killed him]...?)" to himself and then thinking the situation over before deciding that no, trucy is way too skilled of a magician to fuck up a trick like this, something's off about this whole situation. idk i'm making do with what i have here
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elegantshapeshifter · 7 months ago
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Hey!! I want to know more about Traditional Witchcraft.
I have been reading Aradia and the Gospel of Witches and I want to know if there is a Northwestern European, British or Scottish idea of Aradia and her mother and father??
Thank you so much!! I can’t wait to convert to the Traditional Witch Path!
Aradia is Herodias, which is, according to Carlo Ginzburg, a Christianization of the Goddess Hera, but according to Sabina Magliocco, also a remains of Hecate, because she flights in the night.
She is a Deity which is not only Italian, but pan-European, in fact in the Canon Episcopi we read about women who dreamt/imagined to fly with both Diana and Herodias.
Herodias became Redodesa in Veneto, Araja/Arada/Sa Rejusta in Sardinia, Arada and Irodeasa in Romania, and so on.
The point is that probably she wasn't always the daughter of Diana, but assimilated/synchretized to her. In fact, Herodias is actually the name of the mother of Salomé, which in the Gospels killed John the Baptist. In the medieval folklore he blows from the mouth of the cut head and from that moment on Salomé is condamned to fly forever, especially in the night. In many folklore tales, both the mother and the daughter, Salomé and Herodias, are seen together, and Herodias of the Canon is actually Salomé called with her mother's name.
Probably, therefore, the legend that Leland writes and re-elaborates to create the Aradia (because the original legends are found both in Etruscan Roman Remains and in Legends of Florence, so we know that Aradia is just a re-elaboration of original folk legends from Florence and Tuscany-Romagna region) is influenced by this idea of Salomé seen with her mother Herodias. So Salomé (called Herodias for the medieval conflation and mispelled Aradia by the people) is the daughter of Diana like she is the daughter of Herodias in other legends (and in the original Gospel tale).
We also have the original legend about Diana seducing his brother, but here there is no daughter, and instead of going to the "Fathers and Mothers of the beginning", in the original tale she goes to other witches.
Moreover, in the original tale from Legends of Florence, the brother isn't called by name.
However, in many trials in Northern Italy, the Domina Nocturna (ex. Lady of the Game) is paired with the Devil. Moreover, many folk magicians in Italy prayed to the "Star Diana"... which is Lucifer. So Lucifer is both the Devil and Diana herself, and the Devil could be associated with Diana as his partner because the same happened to the Lady of the Game (and overseas with the Queen of Elphame).
We also know from The Strix by Della Mirandola that nearby the areas in which Leland found the folktales from which he will elaborates to make the Aradia, people still associated Diana with the Moon. So if Diana is the Moon, for symmetry Lucifer should be the Sun.
So this brother for symmetry could be seen as both the Devil and associated with the Sun, but also with stars for the Stella Diana which is Lucifer. In fact, in Aradia he is the God of the Sun, the Light and the Stars.
So Diana is associated with Aradia for the Salomé-Herodias pair and with Lucifer because of the Stella Diana, the pair with the Devil and the folk idea that the Sun is the brother of the Moon.
However, Lucifer is still a name for Apollo, even in Orphic Hymns (where it's Phosphoros), but I don't think it's been done willingly, it's a coincidence, or better a synchronicity.
For the British context, in Sir Orpheo, Dame Heurodis is kidnapped by the King of Fairies, and Heurodis is a variation of Herodias.
Also the Canon is quoted a lot in Britain while they talk about the idea of the Fairy Queen or Queen of Elphame.
So probably in Great Britain both Diana and Herodias are synchretized with the Queen of Elphame. The Queen, which is usually called Nicnevin (or Titania/Mab in Shakespeare) is the spouse of the King of Elphame, Oberon, who is sometimes demonized, and sometimes is also called Christsonday.
I hope having answered :)
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cursecuelebre · 1 year ago
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Hellenic Witch tips
Hellenic witchcraft is very interesting in Ancient Greek and Roman history, divination wasn’t consider to be magic but a regular part of theurgy or communication with the gods. Magic was seen as taboo and certain time periods people were faced with persecution when they attempted to “curse” someone seeing it to be equal to murder. The Magical Greek papyri a collection of texts that were found on lead tablets of magical spells that were done in Ancient Greece one of the popular methods of magic in the Hellenic World was poppet magic, made from clay usually most recognize as today as “voodoo” dolls which is very misunderstood through mainstream media and two separate cultures and traditions. Here are some great Hellenic deities to work with in your magical journey!
- Hekate: one of the most common and well known deity to be associated with magic. Besides being associated with magic she was invoke during home protection. She is the personification of magic the good, the bad, and the ugly. Her triple form represents the crossroads and her sacred animals are Hounds and Snakes
- Hermes: Hermes is the messenger of the gods and mortals and gifted humans sacred arts and rituals. He is often been merge with Thoth and this aspect became well known associated with magicians and the occult. I recommend if you’re interested in ceremonial magick, but you can work with him no matter what
- Artemis: she is often associated with Hekate as another aspect of hers, especially in the context of nature and the moon. Artemis is associated as well with Diana the Roman goddess of the moon and hunt very similar but Diana is considered to be the queen of witches and fairies.
- Apollo: In modern day we probably see divination as part of witchcraft but anyone can ask a question and throw pair of lots or shuffle tarot cards. But it’s the act of putting energy into the things we seek can be magical. Through yes Apollo can be worked with when it comes to healing and fertility but he can be destructive and cursing of illness. But Apollo is one of the gods of purification and illuminating against darkness, and can be invoke against evil spirits and negative energies.
Dionysus: Dionysus is very unique in the sense yes he is the god of drunkeness and madness but not mad as in crazy but divine madness or ecstasy where someone physically and mentally feels and sees the perspective of the gods. Through the process of being reborn. Once Dionysus was mortal but when he was killed and born again by Zeus he became a divine immortal who represents nature and her cycles that transforms constantly. One can achieve through hard work and meditations discovering themselves and reflecting on the past.
Those deities are just examples but there are plenty of the Olympians and lesser gods and spirits to work with magical wise. Athena is the goddess of crafts, witchcraft can be that craft that you devout your work to or divination. From personal experience I have made War water with Ares and it worked fantastically. For Aphrodite can be love magic or self love spells or glamour magic. If you work with a deity closely you can associate with a lot of practices of magic with them. Have the spell be part as an offering to them and let them be part of it as you prepare for the spell.
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empoleonebuonaparte · 1 year ago
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thinking about gravity falls and the aj trio. apollo and trucy have a very similar relationship to mabel and dipper. trucy and mabel are both so upbeat and always trying to make people happy including their grumpier, more serious brother. they both always get along even when they occasionally bicker and they'd do anything for each other.
apollo and dipper are really similar in a lot of ways. they both seem to struggle to make themselves known surrounded by flashier people. trucy is an upcoming stage magician and phoenix is a very well known attorney. mabel is very charismatic and very attention grabbing and stan is a conman who knows how to get eyes on him. they both want to be taken seriously despite all the ridiculous things that happen around them. and most of all they struggle with trust.
apollo and dipper both have trouble trusting their older mentor/uncle for very good reasons. dipper spent an entire summer reading the paranoid writings of ford who was constantly writing to trust no one. then he finds out that stan is supposed to be dead and has been keeping a huge secret from him while talking down to dipper about the existence of the supernatural. and the whole universe seems to want apollo to have trust issues too especially as a human lie detector. he wants to trust and believe there's more going on but his bracelet is telling him that hes being lied to. and that hurts especially when all he cares about is the truth.
phoenix and stan are doing ultimately good things but in a very shady way. constantly lying and acting paranoid in a way that fractures trust in him by those close to him. it wouldve been nice to see more of those consequences in ace attorney like we do in gravity falls. especially in dual destinies apollo doesnt know who in his law office he can trust which would make his leave of absence that much more poignant. show him being unsure and going on a journey to find the truth and ultimately deciding that he can have faith in those around him again.
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toasecretsanta · 3 months ago
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Spending time with family.
By @zurophina9 for @alnair-jpg using the prompt Apollo spending a holiday with his children
My name is Apollo. I am a god.
In my four thousand, six hundred and twelve years of existence, I have done many things, Good and Bad.
I have blessed Doctor House with incredible accuracy for guessing Illness and, dare I say it, people’s personal life issues. (Yes, he made mistakes, but he’s only mortal, not a magician.) I have blessed Bruno Mars and Rosé with wonderfully astonishing vocals and ideas for the song APT. 
But there is only one thing which have never done with anyone before:
Spending time for bonding with people.
Or, as the young people say it, ‘Hanging out with someone. (Personally, I don’t understand why they named it after a style of brutal but bloodless murder, but you do you I guess. These later Generations seem to have wacky and dark senses of Humor, No?)
Now, you may ask, dear readers, that did I not spend time with my lovers? Though I would have counted it as the same as hanging out or bonding, just as you assumed, It is not the same. Aphrodite tells me that going out to a place where we have sex or meeting up to have sex is not Hanging out. (Though it can be counted as bonding, it’s not in a friendly way, it’s more of a… Horny. Way.)
And I kind of… Stopped spending time with my children after the Troilus thing happened. Too many reminders. Many of my children also died due to me disobeying the Ancient laws, so, I stopped being a complete part of the family. I still spent the most time with them out of all the gods, just… not as much to be known as being a parent to them, who was present in most of their life, like Mortal parents. (And I’m talking about a good family that does not severely traumatize their children.)
You might also ask about me spending time with other Immortals. Truth be told, the stories of me spending time with other Immortals are mostly False. I didn’t spend time with most of them. It was usually us being Horny or Working on a piece of Art. Or me just annoying them. Probably the only person I have spent some time with is Artemis, But even then I have been an annoying prick just interrupting her hunting.
But that’s not the point. 
The point is, I haven’t spent quality time together with people, especially Children.
And unfortunately, there is no hand book for that. 
So I am just simply winging it.
This is a very bad idea. I should have at least tried to get some advice for this. Though I don’t think anyone I know would have any good advice for this sort of thing.
So.. What will you do now, Apollo? That’s what you, my dear readers, might be wondering.
Well, I did the most logical thing I could think of.
Contemplating why I wanted to be an Olympian and have children. Oh, right, I wanted to stroke my ever growing ego and have fun.
Then I did the most unusual task, which I never do unless I am seriously in war. 
Planning.
And even then during wars, I don’t usually use my plans. 
I started off by making an outline of what I thought my children would love to do. I had to Iris-message Meg for ideas for that however, and that went well. (Not really. It ended up with her calling me a dummy most of the time.) But atleast I have a pretty good idea on what I should do.
See, my children have parts of my godly domains ingrained in them, since they are literally are a part of me born as demigods. Kayla has Archery, Will has healing, Austin has Music, etc.
So What could be better than spending time with them in respective elements?
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shadowgeist-stars · 1 year ago
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There's something I wish we talked more about...
Everyone likes wondering about how the big "Lamiroir is actually Thalassa Gramarye and Trucy and Apollo are her kids" reveal would affect our oblivious pair of half-siblings. But I noticed that a grand total of NO ONE thinks about how certain other characters would also take the news. Mainly in Apollo's Khura'in family. (There will be SoJ spoilers below)
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Let's start with an easy one. Datz.
He already knows Apollo (as "AJ"), and it looks like he meets Trucy when saving Apollo and Dhurke from the undersea cavern. Obviously a generally fun-loving fellow who I bet would happily call Trucy an honorary Defiant Dragon if he caught wind of her being Apollo's sister. Doubly so when remembering she managed to stow away in Edgeworth's luggage to reach Khura'in. (Rule-breakers need to stick together!) He'd probably also assign her some kind of nickname like TW or something, and consider himself her new uncle. He also seems like the only one crazy enough to willfully be Trucy's magic assistant/guinea pig, which would spare Apollo and Athena.
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Then comes Rayfa, our dear crown princess.
While not as emotionally invested as her brother (and we'll get to him), it would be a surprise to learn that "Horn Head" has a little sister. And it just so happens to be the girl with the strange blue hat who was watching from the gallery during the trial that got Ga'ran deposed. While a bit upset that she never really got to talk to her back then, Rayfa would be fairly alright with seeing Trucy as a sister of some kind... and discuss with her the ways of pestering both of their brothers all in good fun.
Of course, Trucy would be over the moon to the mere idea of calling Rayfa her little sister, especially when she's a literal princess on the road to being queen. Their personalities could bounce off of each other surprisingly well, and maybe Trucy can help Rayfa swallow enough of her pride to actually call either of the boys "brother." And thanks to Phoenix's connections to Maya and Pearl, Trucy knows other spirit mediums who might be able to help Rayfa in her training.
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And now we get to someone with a bit more... complicated stake in the matter, and honestly the meat and potatoes for this whole post: Nahyuta.
Being completely honest here, I think our dear Last Rites Prosecutor would take this news as a complete slap in the face. "Let it go and move on" mantra be damned, he'd basically be told "Hey, remember your first case against Apollo? With that magician girl you tried to get convicted for murder who turned out to have been framed? Yeah, she's actually your brother's sister, which also kinda makes her your sister by proxy. You unknowingly tried to get your own sister condemned for murder and quite possibly put on death row." (Since, y'know, capital punishment's still a thing in Ace Attorney L.A.)
Even if we almost never see our Not Guilty defendants hold a grudge against the prosecutors, Nahyuta's entire deal in Spirit of Justice was doing everything he possibly could to protect his baby sister and his mom, being unnecessarily harsh with the defense and the accused in the process. So finding out that he tried to condemn someone who could be considered part of his family on a false charge wouldn't be without consequence. (Turnabout Revolution only proved that because of his parents' direct involvement.)
Undoubtedly, he'd see fit to apologize to Trucy personally upon learning about her being Apollo's little sister, and would do so at his earliest convenience. But we can all be certain that she'd gladly accept him as another big brother regardless of any perceived "past transgressions." There would be hugs involved, I'm sure, and Nahyuta would be able to... possibly bring out the protective and caring big brother he was supposed to be from the very beginning.
Side note: Y'know this here lightning thing you see with Amara when she gets mad? And also Dhurke's dragon glare when he goes Mad Dad on Paul Atishon?
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I get the feeling Nahyuta would inherit either or both of their little tricks to some extent when his big brother instinct REALLY kicks into high gear.
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britishassistant · 1 year ago
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An Act of Infinite Optimism
Apollo notices it quickest.
Some might say he could have been quicker on the uptake, which, okay, rude. He’d like to see this hypothetical some do any better, considering the circumstances.
He thinks he can be forgiven for being somewhat distracted given he and Trucy found Lamiroir unresponsive inside an instrument case.
So no, he doesn’t notice while he’s sent Trucy to get help, staying to make sure Lamiroir keeps breathing, that whoever hurt her doesn’t come back to finish the job.
(Every time he blinks, Mr. LeTouse’s face swims in front of his eyes, gasping his last terrified breaths as Apollo can do nothing. He’s not letting that happen again. He won’t.)
But once help has arrived, after Ema’s let them ride in the squad car with her to the Hickfield clinic, and they’ve received the news that Lamiroir is going to be all right?
Things fall into place fast enough to give him whiplash.
It’s the first time Apollo’s seen her without her mantle, is the thing. And his brain, in between being desperately glad she’s okay and dutifully recording her account of the attack, absentmindedly notes that she has the same stickity-up cowlick Trucy gets whenever her top hat is removed.
It must be a thing that people with that kind of wavy hair share, he assumes, as they have the same pseudo-curls framing their faces and fighting to escape the confines of their respective hair ties. True, Trucy’s hair is a much darker shade than the singer’s, almost verging on black, but apart from that, she could have a career as a Lamiroir impersonator later in life. It may not pay as well as magic, but she’d be able to pull it off. Especially with how similar their noses are.
In fact, call him crazy, but Lamiroir’s eyes and Trucy’s are practically the exact same shadOHMYGOD.
“Polly?”
“I’MFINE!” Bursts from the Chords of Steel before he can stop it. “I, uh. I stubbed my toe!”
Trucy cocks her head to the side, squinting at him. “How? There isn’t anything to.”
“I stubbed it. On my shoe.” Apollo lies.
Trucy’s squint only gets more pronounced, but thankfully Lamiroir’s real doctor comes in with the chart that corroborates her testimony.
She doesn’t bring it up as they head back to Sunshine Coliseum to see if he can get anything more out of “Uncle” Valant, but Apollo’s mind keeps darting between the evidence for the actual court case which is his job and the evidence for this completely insane hypothesis that‘s probably a product of stress. Or sleep deprivation. Or both.
He just needs proof that this is nothing but a delusion. Then it’ll stop bugging him.
Which is why he awkwardly asks, “So, if Valant was partners with your father, was he friends with your mother too?”
Trucy freezes.
Only for a moment. To anyone else, it looks as though she’s smiling bright as usual as she follows along beside him.
But even without his bracelet tightening around his wrist, he can spot her fingers pinching the folds of her cloak.
“I dunno! I mean, she musta been, since Uncle Valant and Daddy were best friends and partners!” It’s almost impressive how she deflects the question.
“But you’re not sure?” He probes gently. “Trucy, if you don’t wanna tell me, it’s okay. I trust you, I just wanted—“
“No, it’s fine!” She grins, a brilliant performance. “I can’t really remember Mommy too well—Daddy always said when I was really little, one of her tricks went wrong and she vanished! Somewhere where even Daddy, who’s the best magician of all time, couldn’t find her! Unlucky, huh?”
“Yeah,” Apollo says, screaming internally. “Unlucky.”
Spotting Ema spraying for blood in the hall where Lamiroir said she was attacked is so great a relief Apollo thinks he might faint.
“Trucy, do you think you could try to find Valant for me?” He leans against a wall in what he hopes is a casual way, crossing his legs. “I’m kinda worn out from…everything, and you probably have some magician experience that lets you know where he’ll pop up, right.”
Trudy gives him that suspicious, squinty look again, before she snickers.
“Really, Polly, I’m not that delicate! You can just say, ‘oh I need to go to the bathroom’, you don’t need to dance around it all the time!”
“WH—!” Apollo sputters, “No, I—!”
“Feel free to take your time, Polly!” Trucy sing-songs as she skips away. “I’ll bring Uncle Valant to the stage when you’re done!”
An aggravated groan drags itself out of Apollo’s chest. He cares about Trucy, but he’d really appreciate it if she stopped trying to kill him with embarrassment.
“If it’s that bad, you could always use the staff bathroom.” Pipes up the detective behind him. “It’s down the hall and—“
“I DON’T NEED TO!” The Chords of Steel interject.
At Ema’s disapproving glare, he clears his throat, focuses on his volume modulation. “I just, uh, needed to talk to you about something. In private.”
Ema lowers the spray bottle. “About the case? But why send Trucy away?”
“Not…about the case, exactly? But it’s not unrelated, per se…”
“I haven’t got time for riddles, Apollo.” Ema says, folding her arms. “Just spit it out already!”
Apollo exhales.
“I think Lamiroir might be Trucy’s birth mother.”
Ema stares at him.
“This isn’t just because they have brown hair and blue eyes, is it?” One hand begins to rifle through her satchel in a now familiar search for Snackoos. “Because I have brown hair and blue eyes, Apollo, and last I checked the only family member I’ve got is coming up for parole upstate—“
“No, thAT’S—?!” Apollo focuses on forcing his voice down to a harsh whisper. “Okay, fine, it was kind of based on that, but your eyes aren’t the exact same color as Trucy’s. Lamiroir’s are. And the similarities don’t stop there!”
At Ema’s doubtful gaze, he persists. “Plus, Trucy said her mom ‘vanished’ when she was little, which lines up with Lamiroir saying she can’t recall any of her past before she and Machi got their start—even if she did, Lamiroir may not recognize Trucy now she’s gotten older, especially since she only has Trucy’s voice to go on! Trucy herself admitted that she was so young, she had very little memory of her birth mother! And, she introduced herself as Trucy Wright, not—!“
“Okay, okay.” The sharp munching of Snackoos cuts off his tirade as Ema continues. “You have a lot of talk. But that doesn’t actually prove any relation between the two suspects here. Could just be a whole load of weird coincidences.”
“Suspects?” Apollo mouths to himself.
“No, what we need is definitive evidence.” Ema shakes her head, popping one last Snackoo into her mouth. “Decisive evidence.”
She flips her glasses down over her eyes. “And the only way to get that, is through Science.”
Apollo blinks at her, overcome with a looming sense of foreboding. “We?”
“Yes, Apollo.” Ema grins victoriously. “We.”
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missamericadog · 2 years ago
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on my way home from the gym i had a really stupid thought of "hey it's been 7/8 years since aa7 so what if capcom reflect that by doing another fucking time skip" i then tried to roll with this bad idea and flesh it out a bit and see what it could look like
so here i present to you my version of the worst ace attorney 7 pitch in da whole wide WORLD !!!
[SPOILERS FOR AA4 AND AA6, NOT REALLY AA5 CAUSE UH NOTHING TO REALLY SPOIL I GUESS LOL?]
come 2024 it will have been 8 years since AA6 so fuck it, 7 years time skip (Again 🙄🙄🙄) to reflect that time
introducing Ace Attorney 7, or Justice & Cykes: Ace Attorneys
Apollo has been in Khurain for the past 7 years restructuring its legal system, meanwhile Phoenix has retired from law to do the same with Edgeworth (who's stayed as Chief Prosecutor) in Japanifornia. He's still acting as a mentor to Thena and is still in charge of the WAA, but doesn't take cases himself any more. Him and Polly don't really keep in touch as much as they should, as both are too busy
maybe Apollo gets homesick tho, or Phoenix offers him his old job back or what, but either way a 31 year old Polly moves back to Japanifornia to be a lawyer there again
case 1 is a tutorial for two reasons:
1) apollo hasn't done law in this country in nearly a decade
B - phoenix has reworked the WHOLE system (i.e. introduced two fun mechanics from GAA)
it should be a simple case, but the problem is that this new system nick introduced fucking baffles polly: why does he now have multiple witnesses on the stand at once? and why is there a jury system? (does this take away from GAAs unique identity? idk)
he solves it btw ofc he does, with help from his professional magician assistant trucy
at the end of the case phoenix calls polly & trucy to his office and tells them they're siblings
cut to case two, where we are focused on an Athena case (possibly set before 7-1? so as to keep the weighty cliffhanger as long as possible). trucy is assistant for this too. fuck it. she's assistant for most/all of the game. trucy deserved better in 5 and 6, capcom.
reintroduction to investigation segments, which remain unchanged. athena, now mid 20s, is a lot more confident and independent, though maybe still needs to ask for help and advice from nick more than she'd like. solves a two day case just fine, even with new prosecutor (maybe Sebastian Debeste? or a rookie who has a similar character arc to us in previous games)
case 3 back to apollo, and him and trucy are probably taking the news itself well but not the fact it took OVER A DECADE FOR NICK TO TELL THEM, and it doesn't help that nick just pins it to him being too busy and forgetting lol
either way a case has come in so the two of them take it to distract themselves but there's gonna be a little awkward tension in the air throughout especially whenever they visit thena and nick
solve it
case 3 back to thena, and her journey of independence & also now dealing with Wright family drama lol
solves case
case 4 back to polly, who's still miffed but is trying to be an adult about it
solves case
case 5 nick is suspected of murder, and trucy is witness so Apollo and Athena work together to solve it, with alternating trial days or maybe one leading investigation and the other court
there'll be a moment where apollo can't help for whatever reason and this is athenas big breakthrough indepdence moment as she solves this bit alone
also guest prosecutor franzy von karma; reveal she was the mentor of previous prosecutor (maybe on the bench with her? why has this not been a thing other than dgs3-3 capcom.)
solves it's not nick or trucy, all of them gain confidence within each other and themselves
game over everyone's happy
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modpoppy · 20 days ago
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trucy ! for the ask game
How I feel about this character
i liek trucy! shes a goober and i think they do a rlly good job balancing her being a cute little goober and taking her seriously as a character with agency and trauma from her past
All the people I ship romantically with this character
pearlsssssss theyre so cute TToTT i have a hard time picturing anyone else because i cant grapple with the idea of athena or the rabbit chicks being anywhere close to her age :']
My non-romantic OTP for this character
her and apollo are so fucking funny man i think theyre a great evil duo (evil to each other)
My unpopular opinion about this character
i think shes not taken quite as seriously as she should? and i think it comes from people not rlly liking aa6 as much but i rlly liked her case (okay i fucking hate that case but i like HER arc in that case), i honestly get a tiny bit tired of child characters who are fully unaware of the absolute shitshows going on around them except when Someone They Like Is Visibly Sad, ESPECIALLY a character like trucy whose whole thing is Perceiving like apollo. but aa6 makes it seem like shes been WAYYYYY too cognizant from the very beginning of how much of a wrench shes been made into for so many peoples' lives and has been desperately trying to adapt to that.
i mentioned in the whole "twisted truth phoenix" thing that i was sad about the idea of trucy having to quit being a magician to become a lawyer and save phoenix, but it occurs to me now that maybe she never rlly felt much choice about becoming a magician
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
PHOENIX
TELL THEM
THEYRE SIBLINGS
YOU CARBUNCLE
it also couldve been interesting to like hear how she thinks and stuff bc i remember the post about how aa4 phoenix is just how he sounds to everyone else bc he never talks about himself, and itd be interesting to see since trucy tends to rlly hide how shes feeling and be optimistic, what does her internal dialogue about it sound like
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ashoss · 10 months ago
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I think It’d be kinda interesting if Damian was a legacy because Ra’s was a demigod. Especially if it was a god similar to Ra’s personality rather than Damian’s, and he feels a tension against it. And maybe the Lazarus pit has some relation to nectar or the fire healing river in Tartarus and it works better for demigods, relating to how long it’s been working for Ra’s to keep him alive.
Google told me there was a minor god of trickery, cunning, deception, craftiness, treachery and guile named Dolos, which could fit Ra’s but of course doesn’t really match Damian at all, so Dami might feel such a fun tension with that legacy. And if Bruce was also a legacy of a different God, that would make it interesting for Damian too.
For the Waynes, I feel like either a legacy of Zeus (dating back before the big 3 deal) or Thomas being a son of Apollo (whose domain includes medicine [thomas], knowledge [bruce], and art [damian]). I also like the idea of Barbara being not necessarily a child of Apollo but having his divine blessing (bc oracle), and the demigod/legacy v blessed mortal dynamic between her and Bruce could be really cool. Another option could be Nyx (goddess of night) because of Batman’s ability to fade into the shadows so well. She is also sometimes known as the nurse of the gods (old use of that word, not medical related but related to raising other’s children) which is kinda funny with Bruce adopting so many kids.
Since Dami normally has both such pride about his heritage but also conflicting feelings from the vast difference between his parents’ families, I think having 2 competing legacies could offer some really fun explorations of character for him.
ough demigod Ra's is such a good take oh my god. it would really amplify his own conflicts about his heritage in such a fresh way- the pride in being a legacy via Ra's and whatever he's getting from Bruce's side? add the Kane magician aspect i was kinda playing around with? fun and fresh imo.
I think legacy Bruce would be interesting to play around with! i do like apollo and that might influence his brucie persona lol. but the past wayne (or even the kanes!) might be really interesting to look into as demigods lol. nyx would also be interesting! if anything Bruce could possibly be a nyx devotee if anything - definitely funny in the context of nurse of the gods lol. (i do remember reading a fic where jason was a child of nyx...)
i do think i'm gonna do blessed mortal babs! unsure if i want that to be when she was younger or if it happened after TKJ and her taking up the Oracle name (aka apollo heard some gotham vigilante was going by the name oracle and hes like: how about we make that real :D)
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found-family-tournament · 2 years ago
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Found Family Tournament Round 1 Part 20 Group 100
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Reds and Blues: Grif, Simmons, Sarge, Donut, Lopez, Doc, Caboose, Church, Tucker, Agent Washington, Agent Carolina, Locus
Wright Anything Agency (& Company): Phoenix & Trucy Wright, Apollo Justice, Maya Fey, Miles Edgeworth, Pearl Fey, Ema Skye, Kay Faraday & Sebastian Debeste
Submissions are still open!
Reds and Blues:
My babies are all assholes but love each other deep down
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Wright Anything Agency (& Company):
THEY MEAN THE WORLDDDDD TO MEEEEEE for some reason a lot of people in the fandom don't play Ace Attorney 5 which is fair since it's kind of messy BUT. BUT. IT INTRODUCES ATHENA AND DOES SOOOO MUCH FOR THE WRIGHT ANYTHING AGENCY. In AA4 we learn that Trucy Wright made the Wright Talent Agency into the Wright Anything Agency in order to bring Apollo in as a lawyer when before it was just her (a magician) and her adopted father Phoenix (a poker player). and AA5 is all about Athena joining and Apollo learning how to trust her, at least it is to ME. they're so gooddddd aaaaaaa like you've got Phoenix and Trucy who are weirdos who love to scheme and you've got Apollo their longsuffering guy who deals with it all, and Phoenix is the mentor... and then Athena comes in and she has a lot of light and determination and trauma (just like the rest of them lol) and she's SO determined and I like her a lot!! And Trucy is my favorite and Phoenix cares about her SO much but he also has his other found family in the Feys!!!!!! Mia dies in the first game but her ghost stays with Phoenix and her sister/cousin Maya and Pearl are SO IMPORTANT TO HIM he loves them so much that's his sisters to me ;-; he would do anything for them and Trucy and he's growing as a mentor to Apollo and Athena too as the game progress... They don't write them all perfectly but they sure do a lot of things I like :) also feel free to split this up into their Wright Anything Agency or Phoenix + the Feys or Phoenix + Trucy if you need to I won't mind I just love AA's found family a lot
Picture this. You are a attorney in your mid 20s and somehow find yourself surrounded by weird little girls with every case you take on. You officially adopt one but really, all of them are either sisters or daughters to you. Especially your loud, burger-loving lesbian sister. Your childhood friend turned rival turned lover, who has a whip-wielding adoptive sister of his own, goes on a series of investigations while messing around with a furry for a couple of weeks and returns with two 17 year old children, a thieving lesbian and a child with a narcissistic murderer for a father who should've kept him back in school a few grades. Your lover has each of them under an arm, and they are appended to your stable of weird little girls but are very much hidden in the back. Then you find out that your daughter, the official one, has a 22yo trans half-brother with a musical diva mother and was half raised as a prince in Khura'in, so you divorce his boss (who is not your official lover, you just had a weird thing for a while when you were in your alcoholic phase, maybe while your actual lover was still messing around with the furry) very publicly while sending him to prison for murdering your daughter's father. Oh, but you have been disbarred, so you make your daughter's son send his own boss to prison, by planting false evidence on him. Of course the young man punches you in the face. Needless to say he works for you for a couple of years and never finds out that he's related to your daughter because that would require a straightforward conversation, now wouldn't it?
only one of them has never been arrested. only two of them arent lawyers. theyre all gay
Theyre very weird and misteruous and kinda fucked up a bit and they were through a lot but phoenix did his best and trucy well she's still just a kid but oh she's trying so fucking hard and always trying to wear a smile and it's breaking my heart the two of them. Also theyre weird i already said that but let me say it again they are WEIRD. and we love them<3 (the ace attorney fandom)
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