#lucifer is the last one in the ranking tho. no doubt

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just a random question but was wondering if you had a favourite obey me character(s)? love your art btwww <3

Omg i love random questions

My absolute fave is Mammon, he's so adorable i love his tsundere-ness and hessooooooooo sjhsjdjsknckakdnks i love him very much and I wish solmare loved him as much as i do jsjdjsj

Second place is Levi, and I love him as much i love Mammon, except that he kind of reminds me of myself when i had the "I'm not like other girls i watch anime I'm different not like you NORMIES" phase and it adds a little cringe factor HAHA

Any character ranking you ask me below those two depends on the day and the last fanfic I've read

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Alastor and Voxes rivalry is so funny because, aside from their differing perspectives on technology, they really aren't all that different personality wise. They're both master manipulator's that like being the center of attention, they're insecure about the fact that they need others for their power and success (Alastor with his soul owner, who I agree is Roo unless proven otherwise, and Vox with his fellow Vees), and they overestimate how powerful they truly are on their own until getting hit with a major dose of humility (Vox in "Stayed Gone" and Alastor when he nearly got killed by Adam). Heck, maybe these exact similarities may have contributed to their rivalry in the first place.

I adore them. Vox is my third favorite. He was my second but then Lucifer made his grand appearance. TBH I pretty much love all the characters but those three rank the highest by far.

I'm pretty much obsessed with Alastors relationships with everyone. His relationships with everyone beside Rosie and Nifty are oddly complicated. I pretty much walked into the show with the assumption that everyone out for their own. All cut throat and not caring who they step on to get ahead. Which we still sort of get but we also got hit with... found family and relationships-of sinners in Hell. I was going to make a whole post about it last night but it got late so I postpone.

They are both calculating showmen. Emphasizing their words and meaning with large arm movements and such. What I find more alluring is Alastor is more subtle about it but its more captivating. Alastor does do grand movements with his arms and hands. But he can make a grand entrance just by being silent. Either moving by shadow or in his battle, he was revealed to Adam buy standing still and quietly waited for Adam to take notice of him when the smoke clear and flew towards him. Which is quite a testament to his talent and skill as an entertainer and showman that he can command attention without doing anything. Vox is more flashy. I love how he enters a room. Even the less flashy entrance of him walking to his control room in "Stay gone". It was commanding attention even if the room was empty.

Both are similar but both are prideful but I think Vox is less so. Vox realize there's strength in numbers. I think one of the reason why Alastor more adamant about being independent and not relying on others is because of his contract. He lost the right to his own soul for relying on help of someone else. His reluctance to have aid and his pride is his downfall. Which we only starting to see happening.

I desperately want to know what exactly went down between these two. One of my first few post was about those two, and I still incline that's what mostly happen but also it was layered with more things im unaware of. They were clues they were once friends and how Vox reacts, it clearly ended by Alastor. Alastor referring Vox with "Old pal" is so condensing and mocking to further insult Vox.

I doubt we get it but I hope we get a flash back episode about these too. Their friendly banter between each other would be so entertaining. They would jab and jeer at each other preferred technology consistently.

I also want the same between Husk and Alastor. I'm positive they were friends before their deal. At first watch my impression was Husk gambled it away to Alastor in a drunken night of unable to stop gambling. But now the more I think of it the least probable it seems. It appeared turned to him. I think they arrange a deal with two outcomes. One that more favorable to each lord but did a game to finalized the true outcome of the deal. I was gonna make a post about that, probably next week tho.

I think Vox character becomes so complex when it comes to Alastor. Because Vox biggest shortcoming is he gets overly emotional. Which is ironic as he is the most mechanical character in the show. I believe he quite the strategist. Which what really got him to become an overlord and his main role in the Vees. I really hope season two show him really utilizing this ability and make him a proper 'villain' with it. He shown to be level headed and calm but then, the mention Alastor to him he goes of the rails. What interesting his emotions about Alastor is multilevel and complex. He feels so intensely about Alastor but the problem is...he feeling multiple emotions about Alastor intensely. It would be SO easy if he can just feel one thing. Either it be pure hate, pure heartbroken, pure rage, pure nostalgia, pure adoration. But no, he feels them all at once and its overwhelming. He needs to ruin and destroy Alastor or bring him down so he can at least feel he can in control. He needs to control Alastor to at least figure out how to control his emotions for him.

Vox in generally is a man who typically knows what he wants and typically get what he wants. Vox wants Alastor to acknowledge him and accept him, Either it be positive of negative. He wants a relationship with Alastor again either be love,mentor/protege/friendship...or what he settle on, rivery. But Alastor not really giving him that. Alastor barely register Vox since his return or acknowledge him as a rival. Alastor never takes Vox seriously, its all a big joke to him. Its drives Vox out of his computer chip mind. Vox is compelled to prove Alastor the Vox is to be taken seriously. He only feel valid when hell get the attention and acknowledgement from the only person he ever want it from in Hell. Alastor probably knows this and purposely ignores Vox when it doesn't demand his attention to further irritate Vox.

I love seeing fanart or fics that showcase how complex Vox can be. He not two dimensional -despite his face being one. That Vox ventures to take the opportunity to kill Alastor while weaken but when Vox facing reality and force to witness Alastor struggling, Vox in up defending and protecting him. While mumbling to save face that he only make Vox look cowardly if he killed Alastor in his pathetic state and only Vox has the honor to kill Alastor.

He doesn't want Alastor gone. He wants his vexation with Alastor gone, he wants his inadequacy caused by Alastor gone. But as the easy solution to solve those issues is to get rid of Alastor...which he sort of wants. But then again he doesn't. If Alastor gone, a part of Vox self is gone. Alastor is such a large part of Vox, that Vox would feel lost and empty if Alastor was truly gone. Alastor is Vox motivation and driven purpose to prove himself worthy. Alastor gone there's no push for Vox to be better in any aspect. Business, power, himself etc. He would never find much joy again when the victorious high of killing Alastor himself wears off.

Vox seemed disinterested in life in conversations until He discovered Alastor was back. The information brought new life to him. He is driven mainly by Alastor.

I am curious how Alastor feels about Vox. I'm sure more recently he more annoyed by Vox and disgusted by Vees business ventures but enjoy one upping him. But does he ever reminisce their better days together and miss Vox companionship? Feel the loss of their friendship. I want to say there are times he does but he better grasp at compartmentalizing and does not dwell on it too often.

I been wondering one of the reason that cost the rift that Vox has some type of recording Alastor that Alastor did not improve of. It seem that Alastor may not mind modern technology as there was a very clear picture of him. But since of that recording that ended their friendly relationship. Alastor took that as a lesson and distort any recording of himself to prevent it happening again. Might be another call back for "This face is made for radio." Tho, I think that phase might be more of his mixed heritage in the early 1900s.

I am looking forward Vox having more role to play in season two.

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My theories on the most dreaded? awaited? ending for Lucifer (Deckerstar):

So first, Immortal!Chloe and Unredeemed!Lucifer.

So how will she become immortal?

Some say the ring might help Maze with her search for a soul but I don't think so because that ring holds Lilith's Immortality and I don't think Immortality = Soul?

So if Luci gives the ring to Chloe and gives Lilith's immortality to her then Immortal!Chloe.

Some people say Chloe wouldn't be happy with it because we've already seen Pierce suffer and Lilith chose to give it up because she said and I quote, "it's knowing there is an end that makes the rest of it count" and also there's Trixie. Which is yeah, point, but humor me.

Didn't Pierce regret becoming mortal again? Charlotte died in the first place because he was going to kill Amenadiel to have his mark back he got scared of the possibility of finally having an end even tho that was what he thought he wanted in the beginning and didn't Lilith seem to regret her decision giving it up? When Maze saw her Lilith said she tried something and it didn't work out and when she died Maze presumed she died lonely & alone in her apartment. I think they actually found being immortal 'convenient' (for the lack of better word choice on my part). She's a detective, her life's always in danger, it'll be 'convenient'.

Also, if it's true that Hell doesn't really need a warden anymore (i doubt that tho i think Michael pulled that one tho I'm leaning on my gut feel that there would be changes when it comes to Hell's management soon) and Lucifer is still banned from Heaven then where else would he stay? Earth, right? Because Chloe is his home. So once Chloe dies (again, assuming that Lucifer won't get unbanned from Heaven) our dude would be a Mess™. He'd probably wage a war just to see a glimpse of her in Heaven and Chloe going to Hell wouldn't even be an option 'cause Luci would probably, again, wage a war for Heaven to open its gates for Chloe. So to avoid Unredeemed!Lucifer from waging a war have Immortal!Chloe. (With what army would he wage a war if he's not a King anymore, you ask? He alone would wage it he wouldn't care if he has an army or not the devil is in love and he would fight for her)

What about Trixie? Based on the interview with Lesley (Maze) there's a scene where it gets gory and will make Maze release her demonic side and as a mother herself she felt the pain of the scene and cried during the shoots. I think its either one of the kids dying (Trixie/Charlie) or Dan maybe (Luci drinking from his #1 Dad cup foreshadowing him being a Step-devil?) and Lesly was simply sympathizing with the pain of a parent saying goodbye to their child.

Anyways, if Trixie dies and she goes to Heaven maybe, just maybe, it'll be okay for an immortal to see the dead? Like Amenadiel can carry her to Heaven to see Trixie and still be able to spend her days with Luci on Earth as immortals. If Trixie doesn't and dies in her old age, again, take Amenadiel Airways to have them see each other once in a while. She'll see Trixie and still be together with Luci.

Okay next, Mortal!Chloe and Redeemed!Lucifer.

I think this might be the end they might go with. They might just deal with the fact that Chloe will age, grow old, and die with Lucifer (hopefully with an ageing glamour because then that would be just weird) at her side being her devil shield as long as she's in service as a detective. She'll die as a human sure but if Lucifer's redeemed what will stop them from spending their days in Heaven? Together?

Last one is tricky - Human!Lucifer.

I really can't see Lucifer giving up his 'Devilness/Angelness' to be 'with' Chloe. Some say this is a possibility because it might be a parallel with Lilith and Luci. However, we saw what happened with Lilith (regrets?) and how he reacted when he lost his desire mojo and then when he both regained his invulnerability and desire mojo. He was thrilled. He probably felt "invincible" and worthy to be at Chloe's side (see: "My mojo is the reason I'm useful to her in the first place" he's still insecure they'd probably talk and deal with those issues later on). Still, it's his identity. It wouldn't make sense for someone like Luci who struggled a lot during the entire series asking himself (subconsciously) who/what he truly is (good or evil) at his core for him to give up a very big part of himself.

"But he's in love!"

Yes, he is, but just like they said being in love is about sharing and gives-and-takes not gives-and-gives or takes-and-takes. Also, in their kind of partnership if Lucifer gives it up it would just change everything in their dynamic - no more desire mojo, no more devil shield, simply no more Lucifer's 'Luciferness'. Because, ya know if Chloe's still going to die why not go with just a Redeemed!Lucifer and be her devil shield right?

So in summary the endings might be among these three (ranked based on what I think is the most probable):

Lucifer gets redeemed stays on Earth with Chloe and when her time comes spend the rest of their lives in Heaven.

Lucifer doesn't get redeemed might or might not be the King of Hell anymore (somebody else *ahem* Michael *ahem* might take his place) gives the ring to Chloe and live as immortals on Earth.

Lucifer gets redeemed but choose to become Human!Lucifer (WHY!?) spends the rest of his days with Chloe then ascends to heaven with her when their time comes.

Final thoughts: I can see option 1 and 2 happening? Tbh I think those are the endings I can accept. I can see 1 as the most doable and acceptable (on my part). I just hope that Luci can glamour himself and make his appearance age tho 'cause if they do go on this route Chloe getting older with a constant 30s aged Luci at her side would just raise a lot of eyebrows soon the longer they're together. While 2 might be a bit hard and complicated because like what would they do? Pull off a Pierce and change their identities every 30-50 years because they don't age? Well it can be easy, maybe, since Luci has connections but yeah that's tiring. Then option 3 which some might prefer just doesn't sit right with me. We saw Luci with his issues on Chloe 'taking' his mojo, on his fear with the Silent Killer when he was incapacitated, and how happy he was when got both of his 'arsenals' back (i.e. invulnerability and desire mojo). It just won't make sense with me considering how their partnership works. Also, I think Chloe wouldn't also like Luci giving up such a big part of him just to be with her. I can only see option 3 happening if Luci's given an ultimatum of being redeemed if he lives a life of a human/mortal. But idk man I think he 'lived' as a human (vulnerability issues) enough for me and for all the actions and choices that he made throughout his journey in the series - I think he redeemed himself enough.

okay im done rambling if this gets any attention please be kind lol

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The Great Meta Scavenger Hunt - Round 2 or I Can Hold My Beer Myself Thank You Very Much

Ranking season finales by level of alcohol consumption.

Expect a few unrelated notes here and there ‘cause i’m quickly rewatching those eps and (wow I actually succeeded in controlling myself !) heavy screencaping.

01x22: Devil’s Trap.

03:56: Bobby takes a swig of whiskey. 04:00: Dean takes a swig of whiskey. This episode is: slightly buzzed.

02x22: All Hell Breaks Loose Part II.

02:05: Dean drinks whiskey from a bottle. Later it looks like he downed at least a third of it. 21:06: Helen downs a shot of whiskey. This episode is: kinda drunk

03x16: No Rest For The Wicked. 

Who knew this was a sober episode? Not me.

04x22: Lucifer Rising. 

Should I count Dean not drinking the beer in the green room as a negative?

And can I count the five beers on Chuck’s table?

(Wow those gross subtitles)

Anyway can God get drunk? I guess he can chose to. 

This episode is: a functional alcoholic.

05x22: Swan Song.

02:19: Chuck drinks what looks like whiskey.

02:46: Sam is drinking a beer. Dean joins him, opens one and takes two whole minutes before drinking (that’s super long when you’re waiting for it btw)

22:16: The Flashback Beer totally counts.

22:33: Another Flashback Beer on the Impala.

22:35: And another.

23:01: So many bottles

That probably don’t count :(

36:58: And Chuck is drinking his last glass.

40:35: And Chuck is finishing his last glass.

41:00: Dean is drinking something that once again looks like whiskey when he got in “for a beer”. Tss.

This episode is: drunk off his ass.

06x22: The Man Who Knew Too Much.

*waits impatiently for Sam to drink on on the many one of the many variety of alcohol displayed behind the annoying AI from the 100*

Come on Sam, don’t disappoint me.

03:12: YEEEES AND A BEER FOR SAMMY (that’s an El Sol btw).

*Remembers that it’s Not Really Happening* Oh well.

13:00: It maybe offscreen but I’m counting it:

Because Cas has gone darkside and Sammy’s head is broken so no one will convince me that it wasn’t Dean who drank that bottle.

Next shot:

Yep. If they bother showing it like that he def drank it by himself.

14:18: Oh my dog Bobby he already drank a bottle why are you pouring him a drink your irresponsible ass ?!

14:28: Bobby drinks too, at least.

21:56: Dean is holding a glass.

This episode is : definitively drunk.

07x23: Survival of the Fittest.

02:11: Starting well with Dick pouring glasses for him and Crowley.

03:08: And refills Crowley’s.

26:23: Meg is holding a beer.

28:13: Dean’s got a beer next to his laptop.

This episode is: disappointingly not drunk enough.

08x23: Sacrifice.

Idk for you but I think this one is a good one.

01:30: Jody gets some red drink that is probably a cocktail of some sort since it’s definitely not a wine glass.

01:59: Looks like she and Crowley did move to wine after that tho.

20:10: Looks like Kevin found the Bunker’s reserve.

Well Cas broke his glass but I don’t think it was his first so it still counts.

22:07: And a beer for Dean.

Well a second beer for Dean:

And Cas ask for two other

I don’t care what you’re thinking this one counts:

This episode is: wasted.

09x23: Do You Believe In Miracles.

There is several bottles in Metatron’s office but I doubt he’s the drinking type (Don’t Call Me Shirley doesn’t count ‘cause he’s human in this one) . Methink it’s actually for show. Maybe he’s emulating Chuck? Anyway...

20:22: Ex-diabetic guy drinks unidentified stuff Metatron mojoed him.

38:19: And a drink for Sam.

This episode is: tipsy.

10x23: Brother’s Keeper.

Looks like Dean has started without us.

Screencaping this one for reasons  

This episode is: hungover.

11x23: Alpha and Omega.

04:36: As we all know, Dean drinks a beer and at 

07:36: He finishes his third.

Then we have Crowley sniffing a bottle then finding whatever he’s digging and drinking some at 09:23.

Doesn’t look like he drank more than two glasses.

Then Chuck takes his bottle bit isn’t seen drinking from it.

At the Lazy Shag, looks like only Crowley and Rowena are drinking:

32:45: Crowley had a refill. I’m guessing Rowena had one too.

This episode is: drunk.

So let’s recap:

08x23: Wasted.

05x22: Drunk off his ass.

06x22: Definitively drunk.

11x23: Drunk.

02x22: Kinda drunk.

07x23: Disappointingly not drunk enough.

09x23: Tipsy

01x22: Slightly buzzed.

10x23: Hungover.

04x22: Functional alcoholic.

03x16: Sober.

That’s all for me, see you next week.