#love victor 1x02

[wyatthaliwells]

Michael Cimino as Victor Salazar LOVE, VICTOR (2020 - 2022) — S01E02 "Stoplight Party"

[these-wayward-stars]

What did Hannibal really want for both of them & what’s beautiful?

This is all I ever wanted for you, Will, for both of us.

It’s beautiful.

If Hannibal wanted a murder husband, he didn’t get one. He got a vigilante out of Will, though:

Hannibal: In righteousness the lamb doth judge and make war.

Will never killed anyone innocent, but let’s not forget the not-innocent were all coerced by Hannibal into killing. Hannibal killed plenty innocent and ate them. Hannibal and Will are NOT morally comparable, much less equals, least of all lovers.

But, they did change each other, and that change, for what it’s worth, is beautiful.

Hannibal: If your intention was to kill him, it's because you understand why he did the things he did. It’s beautiful in its own way, giving voice to the unmentionable. 1x02

Hannibal knows that his cannibal life isn’t sustainable. Rather than rotting in prison without dignity, he prefers to die by the hands of someone who understood him. And Will was that unfortunate someone of his choosing, simply because Will could empathize with anyone, any murderer. There’s nothing special about Hannibal. He knows he’s destructive, he’s lonely, he’s the devil. He wants to be ended, by someone who can connect with him.

So, if Will’s intention is to kill him, it’s because he understands Hannibal’s reasons for killing, namely, power over others that is only occasionally justified as vigilante behavior. This, is what Hannibal always wanted for both of them.

So yeah, he was pissed at Will end of season 2 that Will didn’t hunt him down and kill him with his hands—intimate understanding—but instead sold him to the FBI lowlifes aka tried to save him. Whereas Hannibal wanted Will to end him.

Bedelia: You couldn't save Hannibal. Do you think you can save this new one? Your experience of Hannibal's attention is so profoundly harmful. Yet so irresistible.

It’s not irresistible, it’s that he has no choice. Will is not in love with Hannibal. Hannibal abused him and gaslit him and stripped away his every last chance at normalcy. Hannibal, driven by twisted jealousy, made sure that he is Will’s all.

Bedelia: extreme acts of cruelty require a high level of empathy the next time you have an instinct to help someone you might consider crushing them instead it might save you a great deal of trouble.

This (and Hannibal going after his family) leads Will to give up on law enforcement, to quit trying to save Hannibal (and the Tooth Fairy) by catching him, but to crush him—intimately—instead.

Hannibal and Jack chat:

God, the devil, or the Great Red Dragon?

You, me, and the Great Red Dragon.

God = law enforcement, the impartial spectator; the devil = Hannibal; Red Dragon = the psychopath; the lamb = Will.

Is your conscience clear?

As clear as yours.

They both have a hand in the making of the righteous sacrificial lamb.

Hannibal: All Gods demand sacrifices.

Will: I don’t know if I can save myself.

Hannibal’s planned demise by the wrath of the lamb is beautiful.

Will’s transformation from pariah /victim to martyr /victor is beautiful.

That’s all.

[sunnydaleherald]

The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Wednesday, October 25

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~~BtVS 1x02 “The Harvest”~~

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[nowayandy]

Benji Campbell in every episode - ep1x01 part2

Part1 | Part3

[maycanady]

Everyone wears a color to show their relationship status. If you wear green, it means you’re single, ready to mingle. Red means you’re in a relationship, and yellow means you’re into someone at the party. You guys didn’t have this in Texas?

LOVE, VICTOR Season 1, Episode 2 “Stoplight Party”

[cheaptrick-and-acheesyoneliner]

Love, Victor 1x02 | Stoplight Party.

“See you tomorrow, and everyday after school, until the end of time.”

[lovesimon-gifs]

victor ‘head over heels for benji’ salazar

[santiagonex]

[callmevenji]

Love, Victor Gif Meme > Three episodes

Battle of the Bands - 1x02                              What Happen in Willacoochee -1x07                                                                                  Spring Fling - 1x10

[overwhelmed-blueberry-muffin]

Isabel Salazar: queen of walking in on her children😬

[barbiekens]

Love, Victor | 1x02 - “Stoplight Party”

[masonsgooding]

MASON GOODING AS “ANDREW SPENCER” Love, Victor - 1x02

[xviruserrorx]

Penny Dreadful 1x02

Proteus is a gift I really wished his character stook around longer. I love all the scenes with him and Victor.

"One must always have Shakespeare on hand." I have a book of his sonnets right next to me on my night stand... Very true quote.

[midsummerevening]

Long time no see… I’ve been pretty busy lately and even if I had written some of the analysis, I just wasn’t feeling it. But here it is! Hope y’all are pretty great.

Episode 3: Battle of the Bands

The end of 1x02 leaves us with a confused Victor and at the beginning of 1x03 we find him searching on the internet, discovering that yes, sexuality is a spectrum. What was my first reaction? Probably excitement at seeing that bisexuality was mentioned (along with pansexuality) on the show. I was very glad to see it displayed even if it was brief and, just like Victor, I wondered, is he bisexual?

He confesses to Simon that he likes Mia a lot and feels super connected to her, so what if? As he points out, there is a chance that he might like her more in the future… I can’t deny that he really seems fond of her.

As Victor likes Mia, naturally, he invites her on a date at the Battle of the Bands, and when he tells Felix, he seems genuinely excited. A little apprehensive and nervous, but that’s normal isn’t it? From what we gather later on, Victor’s never been on a date. Doesn’t know what to expect. So his seemingly nervousness is completely understandable.

However there is something in his behaviour (and it might only be him being stressed and all) that makes me wonder if excitement is all there is – I think he also feels relieved in some way, and maybe it’s just me but it comes off as a bit forced? It reminds me of when he had to chat with Mrs Albright in 1x01, his too enthusiastic congrats or yeah, the luckiest in 1x06. Might just be an impression I got, because other than that, he seems really excited to hang out with her!

The Call Me Maybe scene, as I will call it, is important on so many levels. Besides showcasing the obvious chemistry between Victor and Benji, this scene proves one thing and that is that Victor does not want to be distracted from Mia. Past the surprise and enthusiasm at learning that Benji is in a band, Victor slowly realizes how hard it’d for him to focus on Mia if Benji was there.

Accepting to go to the Battle of the Bands for their first date would compromise that indeed. It would remind Victor of his attraction to Benji, how he likes him, and ultimately, that would keep him away from denying this. Can’t really avoid the unavoidable when it’s right in front of you, right?

So Victor decides to change their plans, no matter how gutted he seems to be to to decline Benji’s offer. He sighs in disappointment after having done so.

Mia and Victor go to this museum. They have a fun time. They eventually kiss and Victor feels happy. Relieved that he even got the butterflies in the stomach that everyone talks about. Keep in mind that Victor hasn’t been with anyone, he hasn’t experienced love that way and doesn’t know how it’s supposed to feel like. The butterflies, though? He has heard of it. And he feels them with Mia.

Then comes Simon’s message and that throws him off.

I think this is when Victor realized that what he was feeling for Mia was different from what he felt for Benji. In short, that how he felt wasn’t it. It was less… intense, less passionate. With Mia, it’s great. When it comes to Benji however, Victor lacks words to convey what he feels. When he sees him singing that song to him (can’t convince me of otherwise) all the while looking at him in the eyes, that the crowd suddenly disappears just like the first time he ever saw him in that corridor at Creekwood, it feels surreal.

Fireworks exploding. Jet-fires flying. It’s everything. It’s more than butterflies. It’s nothing Victor had expected. Surprising and overwhelming. He’s speechless as they take each other in.

There. This is the moment. Victor knows what Simon is talking about. Without even kissing Benji he is enraptured and transfixed and the list of adjectives could go on and on but you get what I mean. Victor knows. Then, he’s left crushed, heart-broken, at the sight of Benji and Derek kissing. Benji, who he thought was coming towards him. And Victor was stepping closer too.

That was before Derek stepped in and made Victor aware of the full picture. Benji, the guy he’s crushing on without even admitting so, is taken. As he leaves the coffee shop, he turns back one last time to see him, them, heart-broken. In front of him the picture of what he couldn’t have.

Off to  Episode 4: The Truth Hurts.

Very beginning of this episode, Victor stresses on how great this is that Benji isn’t free. That he is fine. He makes it sound like he’s not upset about it, though his face expressions do not fail to show his real feelings (as they always do).

Remember the reaction Victor got after that phone call? Well I think it’s the same reason that Victor said that it was better that Benji was off the table. That way, he wouldn’t think about it any more. Instead he could go on on pretending. He could push his feelings away, pretend they do not even exist in the first place. Even if he has never felt like this around anyone before.

I relate to Victor a lot on this. I understand why he would push his identity further when he saw that Benji was unavailable. Benji would have push Victor to come out, because he wanted/wants him. But seeing that Benji has a boyfriend… now, it feels… worthless to even say something.  Their relationship would be impossible anyway, and there’s Mia. So it really does not come as a surprise to me that he would say that it’s better in the end. That allows him to delay the inevitable, something he’s not prepared to, not ready to admit to himself and the rest of the world. It’s almost a relief. And I’m saying ‘almost’ because even though he convinces himself it’s for the best, deep down he must be very upset and sad at the news.

A part of me thinks that if Benji had been single, Victor would have tried. Because in that marvellous moment at Brasstown, when that wave of realization hit him, he knew. He knew right then and there, he liked Benji. He may have know that he wanted him. But with Derek… it’s no longer a choice he can make. This choice was ripped from his hands, and forced him into denying that part of himself he tried so hard to hide, deep deep deep.

So from then on, logically, he relies on Mia. “I can focus on Mia.” without thinking that he shouldn’t try this hard to focus on her. He should just do. Like he does with Benji, even unconsciously. His feelings for Benji do not vanish, obviously, but he acts like they did. It’d hurt even more to acknowledge them, because he couldn’t act on it. Whether it is because he’s not ready to be out yet, or because Benji can’t be with him. Which sucks, like Simon says.

That talk around Zayn and Gigi Hadid? Simon used the term ‘crush’. Victor didn’t, but it’s obvious he’s crushing on Benji. Hard. He’s falling for him, undoubtedly.

Knowing Benji has a boyfriend does not disturb their dynamic or their chemistry for that matter, as the opening scene of 1x04 shows. 

With everything going on, it’s needless to say that Victor has a lot on his plate during this episode: he learns that Benji has a boyfriend, that his mom (of all people) cheated on his dad and Mia talks to him about her mom. So seeing that Simon had an amazing week just confronts him to his own bad week. 

[nowayandy]

[princeescaluswords]

Derek Hale is a Villain in Season 2

“You’re right.  It is about power.”  It’s as simple as that.

I get a lot of push back when I argue that most of the things that happen to Derek Hale in the early seasons of Teen Wolf are consequences of his own actions, and I strongly resist fandom’s very popular ideal that the production chose to randomly inflict pain on Derek for unnecessary drama.   Derek was created by the writers to underscore certain points in Scott’s journey -- namely that emotional and physical trauma are not proper bases for making decisions and that power used for selfish ends leads to failure and corruption.  

Because for some reason it is necessary, I’m going to restate that one of my favorite things about Teen Wolf is Derek’s redemption arc, but one of the reasons I love it so much is because Derek hit absolute rock bottom before climbing up. 

When I make this argument, an accusation made against me is that when I say that a lot of what happened to Derek in Seasons 1 and 2 were the consequences of his own actions, I’m really saying that what Kate did to him and his family was his fault.   I would never say that; what I am saying is that what happened six years before the start of the show is not as relevant as people make it out to be.  My opponents claim that they don’t use Kate’s sexual abuse of Derek and her murder of his family as a way to excuse his actions, but, on the other hand, they certainly believe that it renders any consequences he faces for his later decisions unfair.  

I’m not talking about some cosmic force of balance either.   I’m talking about actions Derek took that had direct and logical consequences. I’ll go over them.

Jackson:  At the end of Season 1, Derek gave Jackson the Bite.  This is after Derek successfully diagnosed Jackson as an unstable narcissist, with sentences like “You know, I bet you haven't had a day in your whole life - where you haven't been afraid of something” and his amazing take down (with a bit of self-projection) in the Hale House as he was talking himself up into murdering Jackson.  

Derek created the kanima.  Scott may have excused him, but the truth is that Derek Bit Jackson without giving a single thought to what might happen.  Take Jackson’s first full moon.  Where was Derek?  When he needed something from Scott, he certainly could surveille his uncle’s beta effectively.  Instead, he left Jackson unsupervised because he didn’t really care.  But the worst part is when Derek showed up at the high school the next day.  He confronts Jackson, who is a little shit (as fanon likes to describe white boys being mean to other people), about being pack but then witnesses black blood pour from Jackson’s ears and nose.  What does the alpha do?  He leaves him to die.  Either Derek understood that Jackson was dying and chose to abandon him, or Derek didn’t understand what was happening and chose to abandon him.  What do you think would have happened if Derek had been a responsible adult alpha and took care of his beta?  I guarantee you Season 2 would have been a lot different.  What the kanima did, including what he did to Derek, is Derek’s fault, just as much as the Monster’s rampages are Victor’s fault in the novel Frankenstein.    

Lydia:  Peter savaged Lydia in Formality (1x11).  At that time, Derek was captured, but still on Team Peter.  And afterward?   Derek acted as if she didn’t exist; he didn’t even check up on her.  She didn’t turn into a werewolf, so what was the point in his paying attention to her?   Pressuring Scott to join would make Derek more powerful, just as Jackson and other betas would.  He did nothing for five episodes to look after the girl his uncle transformed, until he decided to murder her based on a supposition and an old wive’s tale that turned out to be wrong.  

What if Derek, who passes himself off as a supernatural expert (”You think your little buddy Stiles can just google werewolves, and now you got all the answers, is that it? You don't get it yet, Scott, but I'm looking out for you.” 1x02) had come to her and tried to figure out what was wrong with her?  What if he had earned her trust and she had told him -- because he had been honest and helpful with her -- that she was seeing his uncle everywhere?  Do you think he would have still been caught flat footed by Peter’s resurrection plan?  Instead, the first thing he does concerning Lydia is order her death!

Scott:  This one is easy.  Derek’s defenders act like the subterfuge Scott played on Derek in Season 2 came out of the blue.  It had nothing to do with the number of times that Derek had concealed information from him (the existence of the alpha who bit him, the fact that he bit Jackson), had outright lied to him (the so-called cure), had betrayed him (Derek with Peter in the locker room shower), had demonstrated incompetence (”This is your fault!  I know, now get in the car and help me!”), had inflicted pain as an expression of dominance (beating Scott and stepping on his neck because Scott tried to talk Boyd out of the Bite, when it had already happened), and had attempted murder (in his house!).  There were ways for Season 2 Derek to earn Scott’s loyalty after Season 1, but Derek took it as a given because “I’m the alpha now.”

Stiles and Allison:  Stiles was scared of Derek.  He does not have the compassion of Scott, and he saw Derek as a threat to the people he loves, especially after he saved Derek’s ass in Abomination and then Derek turned around and said “I’m gonna murder your crush because this bullshit test I made up.”  Stiles recognized a ‘pattern of violence’ in Derek’s behavior, and as late as 17 episodes into the show, tried to get Allison to murder him with a crossbow bolt to the head.   And Allison?  Everyone hates Allison for falling under Gerard’s spell, but it would take significant denial not to realize that Allison had every reason to believe that Derek could have bit her mother on purpose, after Allison had spent all the previous episodes trying to clean up the mess he created.  She turned against her own family to save Derek’s first beta, and his response was to send that beta, Isaac, and Erica to beat her up and murder her best friend.

The Hale Betas:  The prevailing attitude in the fandom is that he was trying to create a found family, but that just doesn’t fit with Derek’s actions.   In Omega, a panicked Scott asks him what are the Argents doing? His answer.  “Declaring war.”  Then they listened as Gerard declared the Code null and void and that he was going to kill them all.  And what did Derek do?  He found three desperate kids and turned them into child soldiers.   He bit Isaac and then, when his own monster killed Isaac’s father, sent him to school instead of establishing an alibi or getting a lawyer.  When that disaster was resolved -- with Stiles and Allison’s help -- he decided, if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.  After all, he could always make more werewolves.  So he seduced a 16-year-old girl and promised another boy friends, then he gave them war and meeting in a filthy abandoned building.  Is that what family is?

He didn’t create a found family.  In the time between the Isaac’s first full and Boyd and Erica’s first full moon, he said he didn’t have time to teach them to find their anchors, something Scott and Stiles, as amateurs, figured out between Scott’s first and second full moon, but he absolutely did have time to run them through combat drills and send them to kidnap and murder other teenagers.   If he wanted a ‘found family’ why did he send Erica and Isaac to murder Lydia instead of going to do it himself?  Was Stiles right? “It's got to be a pack thing.  Like an initiation. You do the kill together.”  Because just like Peter, he wanted to make sure they had no where else to go.   “You’re not a pack without an alpha,” he declared, when his betas told him they were scared and hopeless.   “You’re not leaving, you’re running,” he complained, yet he still had zero plan to stop Gerard.  Is it still found family if they all die together?  Boyd, Erica, and Isaac didn’t leave him because the writers were meanie-heads.  They left him because he was an incompetent, power-mad alpha, with the only club in his bag being murder. 

Derek’s abuse at the hands of Kate wasn’t his fault; the fire wasn’t his fault.  Gerard and Kate’s prejudiced hatred wasn’t his fault.  His desire to rebuild his life and self-esteem on the backs of teenagers he manipulated and used and visited violence upon was.  And that’s why he’s a villain.