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[After the arrest of Danton and Desmoulins] Lucile ran to Madame Danton to suggest that she come with her to go find Robespierre, ask him for an explanation, and recall the feelings of friendship which had attached him to their husbands. Madame Danton refused, saying that she wanted nothing from a man who had showed himself to be the enemy of her husband. (I obtained this particularity from Madame Danton herself, who was then pregnant. She gave birth fifteen days after Danton's death, but her child did not live.)
Histoire de la RĂ©volution française (1850) by Nicolas VilliaumĂ©, volume 4, page 55. This ties in well with the following anecdote that was first reported by Marcellin Matton (who presumably obtained it from Lucileâs mother Annette Duplessis) in his republished edition of Le Vieux Cordelier (1834):
Camille, the day after his arrest, wrote a letter to his wife to console her. One of Camilleâs friends took it to Lucile: she read it while sobbing, and as he tried to console her: âIt's useless,â she said, âI cry like a woman, because Camille. suffers, because without doubt they let him lack everything; because he does not see us.... But I will have the courage of a man, I will save him.... What to do? which of his judges must I supplicate? Which one should I attack openly? Would you like to take me to Philippeaux?â âHe has also been arrested, no doubt.â âSo the homeland no longer has defenders.... I am going to see Danton....â âThe same decree unites him to your husband.â âWhy have they left me free? Do they think that since Iâm only a woman I wonât dare to raise my voice? Have they counted on my silence? Iâm going to the JacobinsâŠÂ Iâm going to Robespierreâs houseâŠâ Madame Duplessis and Camille's friend restrained her and urged her not to take any inconsiderate steps that could lose her and her husband as well; finally she agreed to remain quiet; but she wanted to write to Robespierre to ask him to save her husband, the letter remained unfinished and was never sent.
#lucile desmoulins#louise sebastienne danton#georges danton#camille desmoulins#robespierre#maximilien robespierre#frev#french revolution#danton did have sex with a 17 year old then⊠thatâs gross#but poor louise#first she has to deal with her husbandâs demise and then she gives birth for the first time ever just two weeks later#only to have the baby die as well
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Having just plowed through a bunch of old Danton biographies to learn more about Louise-Sebastienne, Iâd thought Iâd host a little vote regarding which of these sentences make you the most uncomfortable so that you can share my pain. I myself give my vote to number 2. Fell free to give yours in the comments.
1. âDanton quickly fell in love with her; he was flammable; he wanted her; she subjugated him.â Danton (1914) by Louis Madelin, page 243
2. âHe (Danton) passionately desired this child.â Ibid, page 244
3. âDanton too took pleasure in watching the graceful child blossom. Now that he wanted to leave the double-bed empty no longer a thousand voices in him called out: âThis is she.â Danton (1935) by Hermann Wendel, page 273
4. âAnd Louise was his! Sixteen! A child! Like a downy feather, like a nosegay of violets! Had Danton taken this wife as one takes a drug?â Ibid, page 274
5. âDanton was, in a sense, fulfilling Gabrielleâs plans by falling in love with the 15-year-old girl.â Danton (1987) by Frank Dwyer, page 90
#you guys could at least try to come up with more creative titles for your biography#says the person who canât come up with a name for her essayâŠ#danton#georges danton#louise sebastienne gĂ©ly#frev#and what is it with these guys always getting louiseâs age wrong???#she was not 15 not 16 but 17!!!
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Any info on Louise SĂ©bastienne? Iâd like to know more about her :3
You mean Dantonâs second wife? In that case, good question, but unfortunately not one I think has very exciting answers⊠Louise left no written material behind, nor could I find any letters adressed to her. All that we really have are documents briefly mentioning her.
Louise was born in Paris on March 3 1776. Her parents were Marc-Antoine GĂ©ly (1751-18) and Marie-Jeanne LĂ©ger Revel (1759-1825). According to Claude-François-Ătienne Dupin (1767-1828) De la RĂ©volution Ă la restauration, au service des administrĂ©s (2015) by Gildas Dacre-Wright, Louise was the youngest of three daughters. At the time of her marriage with Danton, she lived with her parents on the second floor of 24 of Cour de Commerce, a floor above her future husband.
When going through Danton biographies in order to find any info on Louise, three claims regarding the nature of their union continuously showed up. The first was that Louise knew the Dantons before marrying Georges, some saying her father Marc-Antoine had gotten into contact with Dantonâs father by frequenting the latterâs cafĂ© (Danton (1914) by Louis Madelin, Danton (1935) by Hermann Wendel), others that she was Gabrielleâs friend (Danton (1978) by Normann Hampson, Danton (1987) by Frank Dwyer). The second claim was that it was Gabrielle who begged the two to marry as a last wish (Life of Danton (1906) by Augustus Henry Beesly, Danton (1978) by Normann Hampson,  Danton (1987) by Frank Dwyer and the third that Louise, being a religious person, was the one who asked for the ceremony to be officiated by a refractory priest (Danton (1914) by Louis Madelin, Danton (1978) by Normann Hampson, Life of Danton (1906) by Augustus Henry Beesly, Danton (1935) by Hermann Wendel). However, none of these could cite a primary source (or any source for that matter) for these claims, Augustus Henry Beesly going so far as to say âThere is a story that his first wife had recommended the marriageâ and Norman Hampson that âGabrielle is said to have urged Louise GĂ©ly, a friend of the family and barely fifteen, to take care of her two boys. Louise is believed to have insisted, not merely on a religious marriage but on one celebrated by a priest who had refused to accept the revolutionary religious settlement.â So perhaps these are just apocryphal claims that hold themselves alive because no one bothers to check their origin properly.
Regardless, the marriage contract was passed on June 14 1793, in the presence of family members of the bride and groom. According to it, Louise received a dowry of 10 000 livres from her parents, along with 30 000 livres from Dantonâs aunt Lenoir, to have if she was to survive her husband.
According to Danton, MĂ©moire sur sa vie privĂ©e (1865) Louise and Danton had a child together that died young, although Iâve not seen that claim repeated anywhere else⊠EDIT: it could be from Histoire de la RĂ©volution française (1850) by Nicolas VilliaumĂ©, who in his turn claimed to have gotten the story from Louise herself:
[After the arrest of Danton and Desmoulins] Lucile ran to Madame Danton to suggest that she come with her to go find Robespierre, ask him for an explanation, and recall the feelings of friendship which had attached him to their husbands. Madame Danton refused, saying that she wanted nothing from a man who had showed himself to be the enemy of her husband. (I obtained this particularity from Madame Danton herself, who was then pregnant. She gave birth fifteen days after Danton's death, but her child did not live.)
On July 10 1794 a register was signed, handing custody of Dantonâs two surviving children over to their maternal grandfather. Louise did not sign this paper, but her father did (perhaps only men could do it?). Itâs hard to tell if Louise had taken care of her step-sons up until that point (thatâs the conclusion drawn in Life in Revolutionary France (2020) by Mette Harder) or if they were taken in by their grandparents immediately and this was just a formal thing. It would nevertheless appear like Louise kept up contacts with Dantonâs family. The paper LïżœïżœïżœĂclair wrote in 1895 that âa correspondence (which Iâve not found any trace of) attests that Dantonâs second wife and her father were still in contact with Dantonâs sons and sister-in-law during the second empire.â Louiseâs second husband, Dupin, had known the family before they married, and the godfather of the coupleâs first surviving child may have been Dantonâs brother-in-law François Victor Charpentier. Similarily, in 1812, Charpentierâs wife Constance painted a portrait of Louise (âBaronne Dupinâ). Dantonâs sons, however, couldnât even get Louiseâs name right in a memoir written 1846:
In the course of this same year, 1793, we cannot indicate the precise time, he (Danton) married, as his second wife, mademoiselle Sophie (sic) Gély, who was still alive two years ago (we do not know if she has died since).
On July 13 1795, Louise was present for the removal of seals for Dantonâs old house, playing the role of Dantonâs attorney general. According to the protocol she had at this point moved to Arcis-sur-Aube, where Dantonâs mother also lived.
Louise got remarried to Claude-François-Ătienne Dupin, by then chief secretary of the department of Seine, in 1796. They had a religious wedding ceremony on May 9 and a civil one the day right after. According to Claude-François-Ătienne Dupin⊠(2015) the ceremony was presided over by abbĂ© de Keravenant, who had also been in charge of the one between Louise and Danton. Louiseâs father, along with four others, were the only witnessses. Louis Madelin claimed in his Danton (1914) to have received letters from people who knew Louise as an old woman, telling him that she disliked talking about Danton after remarrying.Â
The couple first settled down in Dantonâs old apartment, but they would move around a lot in the years to come, starting two years later when they went to live at Rue du ThĂ©Ăątre français instead. Dupin, being appointed baron of the Empire in 1809, sometimes went on long missions, while Louise mostly stayed at home and gave birth to their children. In 1808 the family moved to Niort after Dupin was appointed there, whose Maternal Charity Society (whose goal it was âto help poor women in childbirth, to provide for their needs and help with the breastfeeding of their childrenâ) Louise became a member of in 1812. They moved back to Paris one year after that. Dupin died 1828 and Louise 28 years later, aged 80. Both were buried in the Montparnasse Cemetery.
Dupin and Louise had five children together, of which the two youngest lived to see adulthood, a girl, Camille Antoinette (born 1801) and a boy, Antoine Louis Gabriel (1804-1856). The latter married in 1832 and had a child fifteen years later, but after that his lineage seems to end. Camille on the other hand had a girl, Marie Bellot de Kergorre (1837-1884), who in her turn gave birth to the French author RenĂ© de Laigue (1862-1942, who actually has his own wikipedia page). RenĂ© had two daughters that died in 2002 and 2008 respectively. I canât find any info on whether they had children or not, but if they did, itâs possible Louise still has descendants that are alive and kicking, and if not, she at least had not that long ago.
Since, as mentioned, Louise left no writings behind, I couldnât find anything regarding the idea that she was a royalist, which is whatâs claimed on wikipedia among other places.
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