#louis deserves better than this

[alwaysxyou]

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[nessberry]

[spacedlexi]

As someone who loves both Kenny and Violet, I feel like I’ve found my calling here 😭😭😭

They’re genuinely so similar, and I do agree that the fandom has male bias, as well as protagonist bias actually

Clementine has the opportunity to befriend/romance Violet and then let her get kidnapped 20 minutes later. And for Violet, that is the most obvious feeling of betrayal! I don’t understand why people in the fandom struggle to realize that their actions have consequences

Lee can basically hate Kenny the entirety of the first season and then the fandom defends Kenny for his actions.

Clearly most of us totally understand Kenny’s response to Lee’s and by extension Clementine’s behavior, so why can’t they understand Violet’s response to Clem’s? Makes no sense to me

honestly i feel like aside from having a male bias the fandom has more of a kenny bias than a protag bias. i see his ass EVERYWHERE. CONSTANTLY. some people act like he raised clem as much as lee did 😭 (and i dont like the way the fandom talks about clem sometimes 😒 ties into the "weird about women" stuff)(and javi? wheres javi? i would like to see more javi. i actually think i see david more than javi)

anyway. i DO find kenny to be a compelling character and understand Why hes popular. its why i initially thought vi would be more popular among those fans! people who like both kenny and vi i can trust to have understood the assignment 💀 because they really do share similarities. but things some people LOVE kenny for they absolutely LOATHE violet for. and its just???? whats not clicking???

i really dont understand why some people act So Shocked by violets reaction in the cells. like hello?? YOU did this to her??? shes done nothing but put herself on the line for clem (even if clem is mean and ungrateful about it), and the One time vi needs clem to have her back, she doesnt (even tho its an impossible choice to make, and deep down vi understands this). and people shock pikachu face when it pushes her back to minnie like no shit??? but i dont think theyre even paying attention to violets character in the first place so 🙄😑 violet settled into that leadership position on her own and not only do you strip her of that role by letting her get taken she also feels discarded by the One Person who was actually influencing her to change for the better in the first place. AND you can do it all 20 minutes after kissing her. of course shes hurt!!! but people act like shes soooo unreasonable for her behavior (and vi would later agree with them! she tries apologizing to clem on the beach actually. thats how quickly she regrets it. but its too late at that point for her i guess 🙄 irredeemable. to the stocks)

kenny will Literally refuse to help lee look for clem if you pissed him off too much like 😭?? if you arent kissing kennys ass 24/7 he is the worlds biggest bitch about it. but endless excuses for kennys behavior for some reason 🤨 him trying to save ben (or christa but its better with ben narratively) is his first Real selfless act and its why its such a compelling conclusion for his S1 arc (only compounded by the fact its BEN of all people hes trying to save, the reason his family is dead). and S2 kenny is all about how his mental health is in sharp decline and hes becoming more violent as he attempts to control what he cannot 💀 kenny defenders out here using up all the oxygen in the room to make excuses for his actions but the minute vi makes One mistake she immediately regrets (after being nothing but loyal), shes an evil bitch deserving of what she got 😐

gee i wonder why 😭😔

[wildm00re]

maybe it’s because i just barely finished season 1 but seeing tiktok try to depict the lestat-claudia-louis dynamic to the “often father and daughter look down on mother…” quote— louis and claudia being ‘father and daughter’ and lestat being ‘mother’— feels eh

and maybe i missed something or will be shown something in season 2 that wasn’t in season 1 but that is not the vibe i got from their family dynamic at ALL

like was louis not constantly prioritizing lestat over claudia? in what world was lestat the one being ‘left out’— when louis and claudia were bonding about how much they resented him for being so toxic/abusive to them? sure, i don’t really see how he could’ve bonded with them over that but idk

again, maybe s2 will give me a better perspective but right now y’all will not make me feel bad for lestat for being/feeling excluded as if he didn’t bring that upon himself

because if i had to watch my parent beat my other parent to the point of near death over a tantrum, then emotionally and physically dedicate myself to helping said parent heal and rebuild themselves just for them to end up choosing the abuser parent over ME?

claudia deserves the world

i will say it’s interesting how lestat is interpreted as the ‘mother’ and louis as the ‘father’ in the dynamic, because i definitely interpreted it differently, given the housewife role louis took while lestat was more like the head of the house and the one with an affair he used as an escape when ���the wife and kids are too much”.

and with claudia taking the role of a resentful daughter on behalf of her ‘mother’ that’s being cheated on by her ‘father’ if that makes sense?

[inkpotsprite]

I think Claudia as a character embodies what a lot of girls go through as they reach womanhood. Particularly when it comes to men in our lives.

Lestat and Louis viewed her as a doll, they loved her most when she was young and impressionable, when she was clay they could shape and something they could dress up, play with and project their favourite pieces of themselves onto.

And as a girl, Claudia loved it, in a child's mind what they did was seen as regard, love, something fun and enjoyable.

But as she grew it began to feel suffocating, she began to shape herself, she stopped reflecting them so much, at least in the way they liked, and she began to have the agency girls claim for themselves as they become women.

She wouldn't be less, she wouldn't stay as the little girl they adored and they didn't like that. She wasn't just a part of their story. She had her own, and in their eyes, she was lacking because of it.

They see her gaining agency as them losing something, which is why they always try and rip it away from her in some way, shape, or form.

It can be more physical, like Lestat lashing out or more emotional like Louis calling her a burden.

I think a lot of us can experience this with male relatives in particular as we grow up.

They like us less when we're no longer clay in their hands.

[acesstark]

That super ancient tumblr post about how all of the Winnie the Pooh characters allegedly represented a different mental disorder except it’s applied to the iwtv characters…

Louis represents depression.

Armand represents autism.

Claudia represents oldest daughter syndrome.

Daniel represents repressed bisexuality.

Lestat represents being French.

[casually-slips-into-coma]

sorry im still talking about this,, but the armand twist in the finale wouldve packed a waaayyyy bigger punch if it was revealed he orchestrated claudias murder and also louis’ salvation. if he planned to kill claudia out of some fucked up love he had for louis that wouldve been a DEVASTATING plot point. it would have been so delicious to see louis have to come to terms with the fact that armand killed claudia for him. like thats so fucking horrifying but thats also why im watching this show. i want to be horrified

it also is completely in line with what we’ve seen of armand. it wouldve been a fire parallel to what happened in the 70s with daniel, where armand went fucking crazy and possessive and hurt/tortured an innocent because of louis (im not blaming louis for what armand did to daniel u know what i mean by that). his whole thing is that he’s someone so so desperate for love that he’s willing to do anything to keep it for himself including killing the love of his life’s daughter, including torturing a random guy for a week straight, including manipulating memories

the reveal shouldve just been that armand directed the play and he was behind it the whole time and that he was the reason claudia died. can u imagine??? a scene of louis and armand in dubai directly after the twist is revealed to louis????? where armand is trying desperately to explain how he killed louis’ daughter as an act of love for him??????? and that louis just wouldnt understand and thats why hes been lying to him the whole time?? that would’ve been amazing jacob and assad wouldve ate so bad

it just seems like the writers were like armand is the villain👎👎👎 and lestat is the hero👍👍👍 when one of the huge messages of the show is that they are ALL monsters

[laniidae-passerine]

genuinely pathetic how Brad Pitt refused to give a good performance in the IWTV film because Tom Cruise, despite all his immense flaws as a real person, was serving undead bisexual cunt. he was never able to reach his highest heights without a good Louis to play off but his Lestat laid the foundations for what we have now. and despite my common sense I am undeniably fond

[armandssawtrap]

Getting on my soap box to scream about how Louis was also a genuinely terrible father who hardly tried and picked someone else over claudia not once but TWICE. And that’s the POINT. That’s WHY Madeline meant so much to her. SOMEONE PICKED CLAUDIA FOR ONCE. CLAUDIA. IS. HER. COVEN.

[briebysabs]

Veronica and Antoine de Sade. I want to fully love y’all but you gotta stop disrespecting my stunning talented jaw-dropping glorious queen okay. You are blessed to have THE Dominique de Sade as a sister, count your blessings 😑

[delionhearts]

https://www.tumblr.com/delionhearts/762749129367732224/oh-dont-worry-im-blocking-you-after-this-youre?source=share

This just popped up on my dash and I don't expect you to post this but ia with you completely. You can see from AO3 top ships how rare it is to have a popular gay pairing that has a black man in it, but instead of examining why fandoms ignore black gay men instead we get people make jokes black gay man= straight pairing/not queer enough.

The lack of awareness over how black gay men are portrayed and seen in fandoms (not just this one) in general is actually mind boggling. Either as that broader aggressive and angry black man stereotype, or they're a campy 'ooh gurl' side character. And when presented with a nuanced gay black man like Louis who isn't a stereotype it's all 'welp let's just straight code him because I don't know how to talk about black men as main characters let alone gay ones'.

Like good for you if you like the black lesbian characters and the other poc gay men- that's great, have half a cookie, but doesn't mean you aren't still capable of making antiblack jokes or statements. This person really needs to ask themselves why they think the ship where one half is a kinda crochety old white man who has been married to two women, and which has one chapter in thirteen books and no onscreen sex scenes so far is gayer than the one with two queer characters that have already fucked multiple times on the show and had the creator of the universe outline their whole ass wedding.

Anyways sorry for the late rant lol.

you get me!

[rhaenyra-first-of-her-name]

Idk what it says about me but the reveal has just made me like Armand more.

Yeah, go commit more crimes, my dear. His sad eyes have bewitched me. I stand with my cancelled wife.

But Armand is absolutely insane. Like he went from abandoning his og plan to rolling with Louis in a matter of days? Never say that this boy wasn't flexible. He is literally sick of everything in his life and is like, whatever 🤷‍♀️

Louis, Louis, Louis...... You are insane too for staying with him for 77 years to spite your ex. You are petty and I love this idea but you are still insane. I think this might be the first time you flabbergasted Armand and me. Love your petty ass, Louis.

Also since Armand let Louis sorta win their divorce fight, after just establishing him as the Big Bad™, for now, this man is forever scheming, 24/7. He is working overtime. Forever a stage director. (Okay, not really. He doesn't have the emotional bandwidth to be an effective manipulator, he's just an opportunist and oh boi, are the opportunities finally opportuniting after the shitstorm of his life so far.)

[lafamilledelioncourt]

A Deal of Consequence - IWTV Fic

A Deal of Consequence by writerformanymuses

Fandoms:Interview with the Vampire (TV 2022), Vampire Chronicles Series - Anne Rice  

Mature

Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

F/F, M/M, Other, Gen

Work in Progress

07 Jul 2024

Tags

Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Major Character Death

Lestat de Lioncourt/Louis de Pointe du Lac

Armand/Louis de Pointe du Lac

Claudia & Lestat de Lioncourt & Louis de Pointe du Lac

Claudia/Madeleine (Vampire Chronicles)

Armand & Claudia (Vampire Chronicles)

Lestat de Lioncourt

Claudia (Vampire Chronicles)

Louis de Pointe du Lac

Madeleine (Vampire Chronicles)

Daniel Molloy

Santiago (Vampire Chronicles)

AU

Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence

TV Show Canon With Some Book Spice

Minor Fix-It

I just couldn't stop thinking about this universe

i am a broken broken pleb

let me do some fuckery

the gremlin is gremlining

let Claudia continue to be the smartest one in this whole series

Grown Vampire Men Can't Deal With Feelings

Honestly Claudia deserves better

these men deserve worse

Let Villains be villains

Lestat needs a lexapro and an edible

Poor Madeline needs a vibrator and a retreat

First few chapters are in 1940s

then transitions to present

Summary

What if Claudia discovered the plan before the night at the cafe? What if she got to prioritize her needs over those of her obstinate and self-destructive fathers? How will Claudia, Louis, Lestat, and Armand traverse their new timeline of possibilities? Will love win out? Will freedom be obtained? Find out!

[ikpwecanfly]

I believe Louis is an unreliable narrator in he projected foresight and malice into some of lestat's rather impulsive actions, I do NOT believe he is an unreliable narrator in he made up or exaggerated the severity of the dv he received or the bullying his daughter received under Lestat's hand.

Lestat is the villain, as it stands. Can he pull off a redemption arc if he really works hard on himself? Yes I believe in restorative justice so I say yes. But as it stands, he's the villain and had what he got coming for him.

[chkemo]

Lestat is a punk.

I mean that in the most derogatory way possible.

[therossgarden]

Dare I add—

To love is to look back.