#loufie for ts

[alarrytale]

After Louis showed up with S (she was 22 at the time and dressed like him) the fantasy of becoming his rockstar girlfriend increased considerably. Bmg said that its fanbase is made up of girls aged 14-18, and I personally feel uncomfortable with a 32 year old man with a fanbase of girls so young. If you take a look at the hetlouis fandom it's bizarre what they project towards him. But he reinforced this, bmg reinforced this. So I hope he's happy to see larrie leaving, and his fanbase being girls so young

Hi, anon!

I'm just wondering what their goal is here. He is 32 and his fandom is getting younger and younger. The younger ones are projecting their het fantasies onto him, which is fine, the problem is he can't live up to their heterosexual dreams and he won't cater to them. He'd hate it. So they'll tire of it eventually.

His image is all over the place. I'm just curious, do they just throw something against the wall to see what sticks at this point? Because i think they've tried everything. If he dosen't want to attract the 14 year olds, he must act his age. He is behaving like a 18 year old, and that will attract the youngsters. But a fandom of 14 year old females will repel the indie lads he's been trying to get onboard. It will also slowly push out the vet larries and ot5s because the fandom wouldn't be recognisable anymore. What's the plan here. I'd love to know.

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I have an unpopular opinion that unlike most ppl I dont think it's know in industry that louis is gay and he is with harry. Few might suspect it but I don't think it's a well know fact. especially post hiatus and babygate. I think any closet which includes babygate is an iron closet and not a glass one like Harry's. Also louis stunting with Sofie when he coincidentally had to attend some parties in LA makes me think his stunts are also meant for industry. Like el used to be at x-factor shootings. and that's why I feel he loves touring so much. except the one la show that's the only part of his job where he is completely free without any bullshit attached.

Hi! It depends on which part of the industry i guess. During 1D HL was all over each other backstage. They knew it would be kept within the industry because of NDAs and a code of silence. Industry people want to keep their jobs and they know all about fakery, hinding the gay, twisted image protrayals and PR stunts. The industy is very gossipy within the industry, and there are several 'worst kept secrets' everyone knows about. I don't think HL hides within the industry.

The Sofie stunt was so quick and i think it served two purposes (1) to confirm the end of elounor (2) to promote his documentary. I don't think Louis is stunting for the industry to believe it. What is he gaining from that? E being at txf was to show that their relationship was organic. There were hundreds of fans present. People used that argument all the time 'she/he wouldn't be there if it wasn't real'. ie. when she went to jays wedding or when louis went to her graduation. There were just so many people who didn’t buy it that they had to stunt on occations like that for it to seem somewhat believable.

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Yeah the bar is low cause the suppose influencers are like 19/20 and no thanks. Little girl Sofie was enough

Agree. No more of that thanks.

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How do you feel about larries who still keep track of former beards years later? I just saw someone accuse Danielle of being an obsessive attention wh*re because she still follows Louis on instagram, sometimes wears a shirt that kind of looks like one of his, and that her recent engagement is a last-ditch effort to mooch of Louis’ fame somehow. Same with people who accuse Sophie of still pretending to be together with Louis because she’s taken pictures in English-style pubs. Is this not excessive? I think their “obsessive” accusations might be projecting.

Hi,

I think everyone should give former beards or pr relationship exes no attention at all. Attention is what they want and why they agreed to the role in the first place. They thrive off it and make money off it. So the best thing is to ignore them all.

On the other hand i'm not a fan of policing other fans. Just let them be. They're going to do what they're going to do anyways, and you can’t control them. Just disagree with their stance and action, and stop paying attention to them. Observing them is just going to annoy you to no end. We also don't need more fandom infighting.

When it comes to Sofie the last we heard about the relationship was from her implying that they were still involved. She clearly loves the attention the attachment gives her and wants to milk it. He hasn't been seen with anyone else after and never said anything himself to the contrary. So he's enabling her. So i get why people still keep up with her and accusing her of pretending they're together. That's the narrative's fault, and not the fans fault.

[alarrytale]

May I just hope that it’s Louis decision and he simply doesn’t want to stunt anymore and he and his team are fine with him being single?

Of course, anon. I hope so too. He's already buried deep in a ongoing stunt, so any more would just be too much. I think both Louis and his current team understands that having him drag different women up and down streets for him to get papped and get his name in the papers would just be too much for his fanbase. It wouldn't go down well. We already barely tolerate bg. Sofie, as an example, was too much on all fronts.

I suspect we might get some 'candids' of him hanging out with Ava Lily backstage and some headlines suggesting a budding romance. I think that's how far they're willing to go (if they go there) and they've got plausible deniability if it backfires. We'll see.

[alarrytale]

Why is overexposed Harry stunting with a young actress while Louis - who actually needs the publicity - does nothing at all? We haven't seen him for weeks because the paps don't take pics of him anymore.

Because Harry brings them attention, name regcognition and publicity. Anyone remotely female standing beside him is suspected to be his girlfriend. Every aspiring actress, influencer or victoria's secret model wannabe have put their name on the 'harry's new beard' job application list. They have probably so many to choose from that they have to audition. They don't have to do much at all to get their name out there. They get much more out of it than Harry does. Maybe he gets paid for it, or it's just money from the clothing brands he's wearing while stunting. Why harry is stunting now i don't know. It doesn’t look like he's going to take a break after all. Maybe he's got projects lined up, or maybe he needs to be attached to someone while TS is announcing her new album (about him) to avoid unneccessary haylor speculation. Maybe it's in their loewe contract. Who knows. It's unneccessary either way.

Louis has zero aspiring anythings applying for role of beard. He's really struggling to get anyone on board. They will get little out of being seen faking it with him. That's why he'll never get anyone on the same level of celebrity to stunt with him either. For some it might bring more hate or less opportunities being connected with him. Danielle for example gained nothing. Some might say she's even worse off now. He's trying though with Ava Lily and Alycia D-C. We'll see if something comes off that. Sofie was too young, naive and desperate to know any better. And it all made Louis look like a bit of a creep taking advantage of someone that young. So he can't just pick anyone either.

There's so many things louis could do to appear more intersting and being papped, but it dosn't fit with his current image, nor do i think he likes playing the publicity game.

[alarrytale]

‘I'd love for him to hang out with girls and just be friends.‘

Yeah, but would the fandom be able to tell the difference? Especially if the goal is to drum up tabloid speculation? I saw people say a lot of negative comments about an actress Louis liked one post of last year, preemptively deciding that she was a shallow and greedy person because she * might * be the next beard, even people who were fans and liked her previously. I saw so many nasty comments on Sophie’s social media, and even though she’s been out of the picture for months at this point, i know blogs that still follow her and accuse her of still pretending to be with Louis.

I just worry a Florence Pugh scenario would backfire. Like you said, those women have way less sway than Louis with the gp, not to mention they didn’t last long, so no one cares if a large fandom decide not to like them. But if someone like Florence, a respected actress that most people like, started hanging out with Louis a lot and received sustained ‘harassment’ from his fans, that’s a news story. Even if it’s only a handful of rads, the gp won’t care to tell the difference. There’s already a narrative pushed about larries being ‘crazy conspiracy theorists who hate women’ but that narrative doesn’t typically reach far outside of the 1D fandom or adjacent bandoms. But if a current It-Girl like Florence were to get involved, either as a friend or a true beard, a lot more people would hear about that narrative and look down on us, and look down further on Louis.

Good question, you've got a point.

I think it depends. First of all i think we need to seperate harry and his stunts, and louis and his stunts. With harry, yes i agree with you. The women he's with always get's torn apart. With louis i think it could work. Most of his fandom knows he's gay, the gp (who he's trying to attract, don't). If he started casually hanging out with Florence for example i think his current fanbase would be over the moon. We'd think that of course Louis would strike up a friendship with firecracker Florence, they're going to be menaces when they are hanging out together! She's the bigger celebrity and she can handle her own. The media and gp would go 'omg florence is dating Louis' 'he must be so good to her, kind and loving for her to date him!' They both don't need to do anything suggesting more than friendship, other than be seen laughing together, or doing sibling things. The media and gp would do it for them. Keep it in the plausible deniability phase. Aka no hand holding and leave room for Jesus. Get the engagement up and get his name out there.

Louis could also hang out with married women/women in relationships. Like Perrie - they seem to get on (he keeps liking her posts). That would be 'safe'. Just look at Harry casually hanging out with Kiko in Japan. The tabloids did their thing, but the fandom was chill about it. Or when Harry hangs with Ellis and gets papped, the media has a field day, but fandom is always chill about it.

I don't think Louis has to do much other than befriend a celebrity or two for it to benefit him greatly (and much more than fake romantic relationship ever could...)

[alarrytale]

Harry is over exposed so why he is stunting again I have no clue. Louis is very under exposed to the extent that the majority of the public don't know why he is so he'd really benefit from a stunt with somebody more high profile.

I agree with this.

Harry is very overexposed. I've though so for a while. He'd really benefit from disappearing for a while. It depends on wheather his label and management agrees. I'm not sure why he's stunting again right now. It might be for reasons that are not apparent to us yet. It might be a soft stunt, they may still claim they are just friends or it will only last until his last shows are over.

In regards to Louis, i agree that he very much would benefit from a fake relationship with a higher profile. The problem with Louis is that nobody but wannabe influencers/models wants to get into that. Louis is more gay presenting than Harry, and people with internet knows about the rumours. Babygate is a cesspool and can blow up any day. Louis himself puts so little effort into stunts that it makes it a hard sell. There is just not any reason for a higher profile to get into all that. What would they get out of stunting? They could even risk major backlash that would diminish their career.

I think they've scoured the bearding market for Louis, but nobody is willing but the 'Sofie's' of this world (unknowns, very young, fame and money hungry, Hollywood-naive, no common interests). Louis is currently only able to date under his station, not even equals or people his own age. I also think nobody would want a long term stunt with him. Stunting with Sofie didn’t go well for him the last time. The age difference, power imbalance, the lack of credibility and the sense of exploitation was very bad. I don't know where they go from here...

[alarrytale]

After your very detailed post about Louis and a gf, I thought I share my story from some months ago. I wouldn't say it's a proof of anything, but it's more like a feeling I had.

First an info about myself: I'm always wearing some kind of merch or something band related. I have every kind of t-shirts from my favorite bands, some are merch, some are fan made, some are even made by me.

So it was the same on a certain day too, when I happened to wear a One Direction t-shirt from the early times, the boys still had a baby face. On that day I met at work with that coffee run Sofie.

To be honest, I was kind of nervous. What if she notices and wants to talk about it. And then of course one of the assistants told her, I'm always wearing a band t-shirt, so she looked at me, and checked my t-shirt. But... She didn't have any recognition in her eyes. There was a huge print of her alleged ex-boyfriend on my chest, and she didn't even recognize him!

For the next few days, when it was a possibility I meet her again, I didn't wear anything 1D or Louis related.

But then some weeks later, when I thought the "danger" is over, I was in a Louis merch, when I met her again. Louis Tomlinson was written across the front, you could clearly see it, and again, there was no recognition on her face.

Of course it could be, she just didn't want to mention him to me, but somehow I had the feeling, she had no clue what was on my t-shirts. So that's why I'm saying, it's not a proof of anything, but I had a strong feeling she was clueless.

Hi, anon!

I'm sorry, but i can't buy this story of yours. It doesn’t sound true.

What i can believe is true though, is that SN doesn’t want anything to do with Louis, 1D or our fandom ever again. I think she got burned, ridiculed and was way over her head. She seemed so naive and juvenile with her "forlovelsesringe" and rock star gf pinterest. I can buy her not wanting to acknowledge fans or herself being an "ex gf" of Louis. Maybe she's even learned he's gay now and is embarrased. She got her 15 minutes and then vanished. I think she just want to forget it all.