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rohanneofcoldmoat · 9 months ago
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The spider/web sigil of Rohanne's house suits her so well. It fits the in-universe perception of her as this black widow femme fatale drawing husbands in to kill them (like a female spider cannibalizing its mate), while simultaneously representing how she is tangled in this web that is the legacy of her house as laid out by her father's will. After being forced into a succession of marriages starting at the age of 10, her father posthumously demands that she wed again within two years of his death or lose her position as ruling Lady of Coldmoat, all while the shadow of Lucas Longinch, the man her father left to "protect" her, looms large.
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horizon-verizon · 7 months ago
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Wills do in fact exist in the world of Westeros. And more specifically they’ve been plot points in regards to chosen heirs. Robb Stark has an entire debate with Catelyn about choosing his heir. Sansa is ostensibly his heir with Bran and Rickon considered deceased. And yet Robb and Catelyn believe they can skip over Sansa by naming another heir. Why would they believe this possible if there isn’t precedent for a King choosing his heirs ?
“Young, and a king,” he said. “A king must have an heir. If I should die in my next battle, the kingdom must not die with me. By law Sansa is next in line of succession, so Winterfell and the north would pass to her.” His mouth tightened. “To her, and her lord husband. Tyrion Lannister. I cannot allow that. I will not allow that. That dwarf must never have the north.” 
“No,” Catelyn agreed. “You must name another heir, until such time as Jeyne gives you a son.” She considered a moment. “Your father’s father had no siblings, but his father had a sister who married a younger son of Lord Raymar Royce, of the junior branch. They had three daughters, all of whom wed Vale lordlings. A Waynwood and a Corbray, for certain. The youngest... it might have been a Templeton, but...”
“Arya’s gone, the same as Bran and Rickon, and they’ll kill Sansa too once the dwarf gets a child from her. Jon is the only brother that remains to me. Should I die without issue, I want him to succeed me as King in the North. I had hoped you would support my choice.”
We also know that even lords can also seemingly choose their heirs and even have stipulations for those heirs. Why ? Because it’s actually a plot point in The Sworn Sword. Rohanne Webber (Tywin Lannister’s paternal grandmother) is her father’s named heir but there’s a stipulation, she has to be married or she will lose her rights to inheritance and it will instead go to her cousin Wendell Webber:
“Her lord father’s will demands it. Lord Wyman wanted grandsons to carry on his line. When he sickened he tried to wed her to the Longinch, so he might die knowing that she had a strong man to protect her, but Rohanne refused to have him. His lordship took his vengeance in his will. If she remains unwed on the second anniversary of her father’s passing, Coldmoat and its lands pass to his cousin Wendell.”
How is that a possible stipulation that Rohanne takes extremely seriously if not for the fact that inheritance is not clear cut and can be overridden by a will ? And this evidences further that a Lord or King can choose their own heirs.
Maegor disinherited Jaehaerys and made Rhaena’s daughter, Aerea, his heir.
Jaehaerys went against Andal inheritance tradition to pick Baelon over Rhaenys.
The lords at the Great Council doubled down on that decision by picking Viserys over Laenor which Jaehaerys upheld.
Aegon III’s regents pick Rhaena as his heir over Baela, despite the fact that Baela is the elder twin, because she’s too willful and wild and won’t accept a marriage pact they made for her.
Jeyne Arryn picks a distant cousin to be her heir instead of a closer relative with more traditional claim, the King’s regents back her decision.
Aerys II picked Viserys to be his heir when Rhaegar’s son Aegon was the traditional choice.
Doran Martell planned to make his son Quentyn his heir because he wanted his daughter Arianna to be queen conosrt of the Seven Kingdoms, she doesn’t know this and just assumes he’s pick Quentyn over her.
Walder Frey talks about picking his unborn son as his heir over his dozen or so adult sons.
Rodrick Harlaw offers to make Asha his heir to stop her from participating in the Kingsmoot.
Stannis offered to make Renly his heir instead of Shireen.
You will love this video by the former ozymalek, anon (now they are Youtube and Tiktok's "PhoenixAshes"). It basically speaks of exactly what you emphasize for Westeros--how heir voluntary designation was a real thing in real medieval Europe.
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jedimaesteryoda · 6 months ago
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Edric "Ned" Dayne is squire to Lord Beric Dondarrion to deal with Gregor Clegane at the start of the series.
After Beric dies for the last time, Lady Stoneheart leads the Brotherhood without Banners and spends much of their energy targeting Freys, Lannisters and all those with a hand in the Red Wedding.
However, not all members of the Brotherhood followed her in turning their group into a vehicle for vengeance as one faction split off. It makes sense that the branch of the Brotherhood staying true to their mission of defending the smallfolk of the riverlands is led by someone with the sane nickname as the Hand who originally sent them on their mission: Ned Dayne.
He followed a stormlord as Ned Stark did, and the orphaned lord never expected to be in his leadership position, but now finds himself forced to take on the role and lead in his mentor's stead as Eddard did after the deaths of his father and brother and later, Jon Arryn.
He has a bit of Egg too in that he starts the series off as a young squire around the same age at a tourney with aspirations for knighthood. He pulled his master from the river after a fight like Egg did after Dunk's duel with Longinch, and shows solidarity with the smallfolk as Aegon V did as king. He may even follow Gendry's suggestion of shaving his head. That's without saying that both are Daynes by blood with Egg's mother having been Dyanna Dayne.
Edric was a naïve twelve year-old when we last saw him. He is still a squire as he was never knighted by Beric, and without Beric, he takes up his mentor's role and leads the Brotherhood in Beric's spirit. He keeps to their mission of defending the smallfolk against all who mean them harm. I think we will see him again, and he will likely have matured and grown into his new role as Ned Stark and Egg did.
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aegor-bamfsteel · 2 years ago
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Do you think Rohanne Webber had similarities with Cersei and Dany?
Rohanne “the Red Widow” Webber has similarities with a lot of the female characters in the series. She’s rumored to be a witch who murdered 3 of her husbands, her brothers, and sacrificed her stillborn children to learn the dark arts; her nickname and magical undead babies bring to mind Melisandre or even Alys Rivers. People warn Dunk not to eat the food she gave him because she poisoned her husbands, much like Lysa did hers. She gave Dunk a little speech about how her husbands dying made her lose trust in men but not in Coldmoat, which is similar to Mya Stone’s speech about how “men lie, die, or leave you” but she trusts in her mules and mountain. You might even see parallels to future!Sansa, who is already a rumored sorceress who killed her ex-fiancée and has become jaded with the idea of marriage because she knows all the men want is her claim (begging for a subversion).
However, while Dæny and Cersei killed their husbands (and both are directly or indirectly connected to sorcery) Rohanne has had a streak of bad luck that killed them and is not a witch, but encourages the rumors to be intimidating. She has parallels with Dæny as the last direct heiress of a house, married off horrifically young (10 vs 13) and gave birth to a stillborn son young (both ~14), are small and unassuming in appearance but project ferocity, own a suit of largely impractical armor, had an attraction/affair with a sellsword/sworn sword (Daario Naharis or Dunk) but couldn’t marry him due to his low birth and instead married a much older powerful man to provide peace in the area (Hizdahr for Meereen and Eustace for Standfast), and visits harsh punishments on people she thinks wrong her (Rohanne had people drowned or stuffed in cages for stealing or saying she’s barren, and you have Dæny burning Mirri or crucifying 163 random Great Masters). Cersei has some of these similarities (as the heiress to Casterly, with the harsh punishments for relatively minor slights), the willingness to use her beauty to manipulate men for her political goals (the affair with the minor Kettleblack knights vs using Dunk’s attraction to help rid her of Longinch), a cynicism wrt sexist Westerosi feudalism, she’s big on grandeur and style, she had her famously beautiful hair cut off against her will, she has cousins she sees as grasping and unworthy of her inheritance; I guess that makes sense, because Rohanne is Cersei’s great-grandmother twice over (grandmother of first cousins Tywin and Joanna). Rohanne fulfills some of the “cynical Femme Fatale” tropes, which combined with rumored sorcery (including child sacrifice and poisoning) gives her some parallels to many female characters of the main series, including Cersei and Dæny.
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klaradox · 4 years ago
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THE LANNISTERS: ROHANNE WEBBER
Rohanne Webber, known as the Red Widow, was the Lady of Coldmoat and head of House Webber during the reign of King Aerys I Targaryen. She was the daughter of Lord Wyman Webber. Later, she married Lord Gerold Lannister and became Lady of Casterly Rock.
Lady Rohanne was short, slim, and had strawberry-blond red hair and grey-green eyes. She had a dimpled chin, a snub nose, and freckles. Rohanne usually kept her hair bound in a braid that reached down to her thighs, and she frequently played with it.
Rohanne tried hard to appear ferocious to other lords and knights. She enjoyed archery.
During her childhood, Rohanne was fond of young Addam Osgrey, who served as her father Wyman's page and later squire at Coldmoat. The two had an innocent romance, though it never went past a few kisses. Because of this relationship, Addam's father, Ser Eustace Osgrey, proposed that they marry, but Lord Wyman refused him. Instead, Rohanne was married to a different squire of her father's. During the First Blackfyre Rebellion, her father and husband fought in the Battle of the Redgrass Field in 196 AC, on the side of House Targaryen. Rohanne's husband, twelve years old, was slain in battle, and she became a widow for the first time at the age of ten. Addam also died during the battle, fighting on the side of House Blackfyre as his father's squire, which caused Rohanne to develop a grudge against Ser Eustace.
At age thirteen, Rohanne was married again to a fifty-four-year-old man, who soon died of a chill. Six months after his death, she gave birth to their son, who was weak and died within three days. Her third husband, Ser Simon Staunton, choked to death on a chicken bone, while her fourth husband, Ser Rolland Uffering died of the Great Spring Sickness. Rohanne bore a daughter by either her third or fourth husband, but the girl did not live a year. Because of the unfortunate deaths of her husbands and children, Rohanne was called the Red Widow, and the smallfolk accused her of poisoning her husbands and being a witch who sold her unborn babies to the Lord of the Seven Hells so that he would teach her the black arts.
Before his death, Lord Wyman attempted to marry Rohanne to his castellan, Ser Lucas Inchfield, but she refused him. As such, Wyman stated in his will that Rohanne had two years to marry after his death. If she would remain unwed, Coldmoat would be granted to her cousin, Ser Wendell Webber. On his deathbed, Rohanne's father charged Lucas to scare off unworthy suitors, though in the two years that would follow, Lucas would attempt to scare off all who traveled to Coldmoat. Lucas's behavior, in addition to the rumors concerning the deaths of Rohanne's four husbands and the two children who died, caused the number of suitors to be lower than would have been expected based on her beauty and status, but she did have several suitors. Among them were Cleyton Caswell and Simon Leygood, both rather persistent, and Ser Gerold Lannister, who sent her flattering letters from Casterly Rock, but whom Rohanne did not believe to be willing to leave the westerlands and his position at his brother's seat.
Lady Rohanne continued to rule Coldmoat in 211 AC, though she had only until the new moon to marry in order to keep her seat. When her people built a dam on the Chequy Water, Ser Bennis of the Brown Shield, working for Ser Eustace Osgrey, assaulted one of her workers. Ser Duncan the Tall came to Coldmoat on behalf of Eustace to pay the blood price, but she rejected the offer. Lady Rohanne brought her forces to the Chequy Water, where she was confronted by Duncan, Eustace, and Duncan's squire, Egg. She accepted a trial by battle, choosing Ser Lucas Inchfield as her champion to fight Eustace's champion, Duncan. Lucas Longinch was killed in the trial, however, and the valor of Duncan reconciled Eustace and Rohanne. Rohanne visited Addam Osgrey's grave at Standfast, and when she began to weep, Eustace comforted her. They married the next day, allowing Rohanne to keep Coldmoat.
During Duncan's attempts to defuse the feud between Eustace and Rohanne, he and she developed a certain attraction. When he woke after nearly being killed in the trial by combat and found Rohanne had married Eustace, and then never visited him while he was recovering, Duncan felt rejected. On the day he left Coldmoat, Rohanne tried to offer Duncan a place as captain of her guards, but he refused the offer. She then offered him one of her horses to give him something to remember her by, but Duncan refused that as well. At the conclusion of their argument, they kissed passionately, and Duncan cut off her famous braid to keep to remember her by.
Rohanne later married Lord Gerold Lannister and had four sons with him, twins Tywald and Tion, Tytos, and Jason Lannister. She was the grandmother of Lord Tywin, Ser Kevan, Gerion, Ser Tygett, Lady Genna, Lady Joanna, Ser Stafford, and Damon Lannister. Lady Rohanne disappeared under mysterious circumstances in 230 AC, less than a year after giving birth to Jason.
To spite the widowed Lord Gerold, Lady Ellyn Reyne named her first daughter, Rohanne Tarbeck, after Rohanne Webber in 240 AC, according to a semi-canon source.
This image will be featured on my upcoming map of the Westerlands.
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goodqueenaly · 6 years ago
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House Words Wednesdays: House Inchfield
Welcome to House Words Wednesdays! Each week, I take a House without known canon or semi-canon words and present what I think could make sense as that House’s motto. You’re free to suggest more as well, if your favored House has not yet been suggested; take a look at this link to see what has already been suggested, and shoot me a tweet or ask through Tumblr if you have another House you’d like to see done.
House Inchfield is a noble House of the Reach, though unfortunately we know very little about its rank. My guess would be that the Inchfields are a very minor noble family, probably of the same vassal-of-vassal rank as the Webbers of Coldmoat (if not even maybe a step lower). The only modern Inchfield we have is Ser Owen Inchfield, one of the many reacher knights who joined Renly when the latter declares himself king. Owen Inchfield is notable only as an entrant in the horrific misogynistic “game” dreamed up by Ser Hyle Hunt and others at Highgarden; more forceful than some of the other competitors, Ser Owen seized Brienne and attempted to kiss her - only to find himself knocked ass-backwards into a cookfire as a result. (Go Brienne!)
The only historical Inchfield is Ser Lucas, a major character in the second of the Tales of Dunk and Egg, “The Sworn Sword”. Ser Lucas was made castellan of Coldmoat during the tenure of Lord Wyman Webber, and continued in that position for Lady Rohanne. Very tall - though furious to find a man in Dunk taller than he was - very ugly, and very fierce, “the Longinch” was charged by the dying Lord Wyman to protect Rohanne from all unworthy suitors (after Wyman Webber was unsuccessful in trying to wed Rohanne to Lucas himself); Ser Lucas, as the septon at Coldmoat revealed, had taken it upon himself as a result to scare away any possible suitor, so that Rohanne would be forced to marry him. At the final showdown between Eustace Osgrey and Rohanne Webber, Lucas Inchfield stood as champion for Lady Webber, and engaged in a one on one duel with Dunk. Like his probable great-granddaughter did with her Inchfield, though, Dunk used his size to his advantage, pushing Lucas down into the stream and killing him.
For the Inchfield words, I decided on Proved by Strength. The two Inchfields we’ve seen have both been eager to prove themselves by their physical strength - but in both cases, the only thing that's been proven is that they could (and should have) been beaten by those stronger in both physical and personal ways. Ser Lucas Inchfield prided himself on his imposing stature and cruel demeanor, relying on these to isolate the already culturally disadvantaged Rohanne Webber - but eventually found that he did not have the strength to match the (quite literally) upstanding Duncan the Tall. As for Owen Inchfield, he decided that he would bypass the more romantic avenues his fellow misogynistic knights did with Brienne and force himself on her, hoping his brute physical strength would force Brienne to give way - but instead, Brienne used her own strength to prove that she would not be taken by anyone against her will. 
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loislanesmiles · 7 years ago
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Jon: King predictions
I: The king laughs and the court laughs with him. 
So Jon is laughing, during one of his first real trials as a leader, hedged in language that is applied to three different kings of Westeros. Not only that, the rhythm of the phrase “when the king laughs, the court laughs with him” is echoed almost word for word for Jon specifically. 
He [Joffrey] laughed … and when the king laughs, the court laughs with him. Sansa ASOS
He [Jon] laughed, and Pyp and Owen and half a dozen more laughed with him. Jon ASOS
He [Barristan] had spent the best part of his own life obeying the commands of drunkards (King Robert] and madmen [King Aerys]. Barristan ADWD
Jon laughed, laughed like a drunk or a madman, and his men laughed with him. Jon ASOS
II. Bloodraven and “King.” 
The raven, which is surely skinchanged by Bloodraven, Bran’s mentor and a man who can see the past/present/future, says king over and over. By Mormont’s actions, GRRM makes a literary connection between the raven’s statement and Jon. 
"King," croaked the raven. The bird flapped across the solar to land on Mormont's shoulder. "King," it said again, strutting back and forth.
"He likes that word," Jon said, smiling.
"An easy word to say. An easy word to like."
"King," the bird said again.
"I think he means for you to have a crown, my lord."
"The realm has three kings already, and that's two too many for my liking." Mormont stroked the raven under the beak with a finger, but all the while his eyes never left Jon Snow. Jon AGOT
Jon is LC in the fifth book and the raven meaning Bloodraven is at it again, calling Jon a king. A man who can see the history of Westeros is calling Jon a king again. 
He rose and dressed in darkness, as Mormont's raven muttered across the room. "Corn," the bird said, and, "King," and, "Snow, Jon Snow, Jon Snow." That was queer. The bird had never said his full name before, as best Jon could recall. Jon ADWD
III:  Gilly and taking a knee for kings 
"They say the king gives justice and protects the weak." She [Gilly] started to climb off the rock, awkwardly, but the ice had made it slippery and her foot went out from under her. Jon caught her before she could fall, and helped her safely down. The woman knelt on the icy ground. "M'lord, I beg you—" Jon ACOK
When Gilly entered, she went at once to her knees. Jon came around the table and drew her to her feet. "You don't need to take a knee for me. That's just for kings." Jon ADWD
IV.“Kill the boy” to Aegon the Unlikely and to Jon Snow
“Kill the boy and let the man be born” was the exact same advice that Maester Aemon gave to another Aegon (Aegon the Unlikely) before he became king.  Aegon the Unlikely was a compromise candidate chosen by a Great Council rather than by succession. Decades later, Jon gets the same advice this future unlikely king got:
"Allow me to give my lord one last piece of counsel," the old man had said, "the same counsel that I once gave my brother when we parted for the last time. He was three-and-thirty when the Great Council chose him to mount the Iron Throne...Egg had an innocence to him, a sweetness we all loved. Kill the boy within you, I told him the day I took ship for the Wall. It takes a man to rule. An Aegon, not an Egg. Kill the boy and let the man be born." The old man felt Jon’s face. "You are half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I fear.You will have little joy of your command, but I think you have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let the man be born. Jon ADWD.
When Sam eulogizes Maester Aemon in AFFC, he states “he counseled kings as well.”
V. King Daerons and Jon Snow.
Jon is connected in text to the nation building and ruling of two King Daeron. As a boy, he admired Daeron the Young Dragon, a conqueror who tried and failed to conquer Dorne. But as LC, Jon’s nation building mirrors Daeron the Good, who integrated Dorne into Westeros by marriage. I made a separate post detailing Jon’s textual connection to the King Daerons.
Jon sends Sam to the Citadel and Maester Aemon yet again connects Jon to a Targaryen king, this time Daeron the Good:
“My own father raised the same objections when I chose a life of service,” the old man said. “It was his father who sent me to the Citadel. King Daeron had sired four sons, and three had sons of their own. Too many dragons are as dangerous as too few, I heard His Grace tell my lord father, the day they sent me off.” Aemon raised a spotted hand to the chain of many metals that dangled loose about his thin neck.
“The chain is heavy, Sam, but my grandsire [Daeron the Good] had the right of it. So does your Lord Snow.” Samwell AFFC
VI. Aegon the Unlikely and Jon Snow (again)
Egg, Maester Aemon’s brother who is the future King Aegon the Unlikely, is mistaken for a stableboy in the ASOIAF prequel novella. Jon thinks he might be mistaken for a stableboy.
“No one sees her ladyship unless the Longinch gives his leave. You come with me. Your stableboy can stay with the horses.”
"I’m a squire, not a stableboy,” Egg insisted. “Are you blind, or only stupid?” The Sworn Sword.
It would never do to come before this queen without a retinue of his own, if half of what they said of her was true. She might mistake him for a stableboy and hand him the reins of her horse. Jon ADWD.
VII. Kings hiding under the Snow.
The way GRRM phrases this sentence:
"Kings are a rare sight in the north." Robert snorted "More likely they were hiding under the snow. Snow, Ned”! Ned AGOT.
VIII. The Black Bastard & the real king of the castle.
When Arya is in the Red Keep, the seat of the kings of Westeros, she encounters Jon’s dead half sister’s cat, Balerion. The cat is called “The Black Bastard” and “the real king of the castle.” Jon is called the black bastard more than once. 
“That’s the real king of this castle right there, older than sin and twice as mean... One time the king was feasting the queen’s father [Tywin], and that black bastard hopped up on the table and snatched a roast quail right out of Lord Tywin’s fingers. Robert laughed so hard he was like to burst. You stay away from that one, child.” Arya AGOT
“The black bastard [Jon] what gutted Orell," said Rattleshirt, "and a bloody warg as well.” Jon ASOS
But they were all dead now, even Arya, everyone but her half-brother, Jon. Some nights she heard talk of him, in the taverns and brothels of the Ragman’s Harbor. The Black Bastard of the Wall, one man had called him. Arya ADWD
IX.  Viserys, Jon, and kings’ seats.
“Khal Drogo says your place is not on the high bench,” Ser Jorah translated for her brother. “Khal Drogo says your place is there.”
Viserys glanced where the khal was pointing. At the back of the long hall, in a corner by the wall, deep in shadow so better men would not need to look on them, sat the lowest of the low; raw unblooded boys, old men with clouded eyes and stiff joints, the dim-witted and the maimed. Far from the meat, and farther from honor. “That is no place for a king,” her brother declared
Jon was sitting at the end of the hall which was according to Viserys, “no place for a king.” 
A singer was playing the high harp and reciting a ballad, but down at this end of the hall his voice could scarcely be heard above the roar of the fire, the clangor of pewter plates and cups, and the low mutter of a hundred drunken conversations. Jon AGOT
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“Don’t you usually eat at table with your brothers?”
“Most times,” Jon answered in a flat voice. “But tonight Lady Stark thought it might give insult to the royal family to seat a bastard among them.”
“I see.” His uncle glanced over his shoulder at the raised table at the far end of the hall. Benjen and Jon. Jon AGOT
X. Kingsguard
"Dany glimpsed Ser Barristan sliding closer, a white shadow at her side." Daenerys ADWD.
The Kingsguard wear signature all-white cloaks, and gold armor with extensive white enameling. For this reason they are sometimes colloquially called the “White Cloaks”, or the “White Swords” (wiki)
A kingsguard is  Dany’s “white shadow” there to protect her while Ghost, an albino direwolf, is Jon’s “white shadow” there to protect him.
"Ghost padded after him, a white shadow at his side." Jon ADWD.
Ghost ran with them, a white shadow at Jon’s side. Jon ADWD.
XI. A second life worthy of a king.
Jon is almost certain to warg into Ghost upon his death in the books and begin a second life “worthy of a king.”
He had known what Snow was the moment he saw that great white direwolf stalking silent at his side. One skinchanger can always sense another. Mance should have let me take the direwolf. There [Ghost] would be a second life worthy of a king. He could have done it, he did not doubt. The gift was strong in Snow, but the youth was untaught, still fighting his nature when he should have gloried in it. ADWD Prologue
XII. Gods, kings, and justice.
Brienne: "I was also taught that the gods make kings, not swords of men. If Stannis is our rightful King-..."
Catelyn: He's not. Robert was never the rightful king either, even Renly said as much. Jaime Lannister murdered the rightful king [Aerys], after Robert killed his lawful heir [Rhaegar] on the Trident. Brienne and Cat. Catelyn ACOK
The gods make kings and queens for justice:
“Why do the gods make kings and queens, if not to protect the ones who can’t protect themselves?”
“Some kings make themselves. Robert did.”
“He was no true king,” Dany said scornfully. “He did no justice. Justice … that’s what kings are for.” Daenerys ASOS.
The first time chapter GRRM ever wrote and the first time we meet Jon:
He put a hand on Bran’s shoulder, and Bran looked over at his bastard brother. “You did well,” Jon told him solemnly. Jon was fourteen, an old hand at justice. Bran AGOT.
A king should protect his people as Davos says and this is the mantra that Jon becomes the embodiment of. “I am the shield that guards the realms of men.”
"There's much I don't understand," Davos admitted...And I know that a king protects his people, or he is no king at all." Davos ASOS
The shield that guards the realms of men. Ghost nuzzled up against his shoulder, and Jon draped an arm around him. He could smell Horse's unwashed breeches, the sweet scent Satin combed into his beard, the rank sharp smell of fear, the giant's overpowering musk. He could hear the beating of his own heart. When he looked across the grove at the woman with her child, the two greybeards, the Hornfoot man with his maimed feet, all he saw was men. Jon ADWD.
XIII. Matters for a king: marriages and inheritances.
In his position as Lord Commander, Jon exceeds his mandate. He acts as a king.  By Jon’s own words:
"Marriages and inheritances [lands and property] are matters for a king, my lady." Jon to Alys Karstark. Jon ADWD
Cersei says Jon has given Stannis lands and property:
“The father [Ned] would have handed the realm to Stannis. The son [Jon] has given him lands and castles.” - Cersei to the Small Council.
Jon later brokers Alys Karstark’s marriage to the Magnar of the Thenns and secures the loyalty of the Thenns. And, Jon gives Alys away at her wedding.
“Will my lord be feasting with us?” Mully asked Jon Snow.
“Shortly.” Sigorn might take it as a slight if he did not appear. And this marriage is mine own work, after all.  Jon to Mully.
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"Who brings this woman to be wed?" asked Melisandre.
"I do," said Jon. "Now comes Alys of House Karstark, a woman grown and flowered, of noble blood and birth." He gave her hand one last squeeze and stepped back to join the others. Jon ADWD.
XIV. A king must be bold
Boldness is a trait of a king according to Tyrion:
A king must be bold. Tyrion ASOS
You're [Jon] bold enough to be a Stark. Stannis to Jon. Jon ASOS.
Stannis stared at him incredulously, then gave a bark of laughter. “You are bold enough, Snow, I grant you that.” Jon ADWD.
You have a bold tongue in the king's solar, boy [Jon] - Godry to Jon. Jon ADWD.
Jon was less amused. "I will not ask my men to do what I would not do myself. I mean to lead the ranging."
"How bold of you," said the queen [Selyse].  Jon ADWD.
I want to be careful using external sources such as other books or historical events to predict future events for ASOIAF as it’s not as credulous as using the text of ASOIAF itself. But it’s fine for analytical purposes.
If anyone has read Tad Williams’ fantasy series Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, it’s obvious that ASOIAF is heavily influenced by it and George himself has stated that Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn influenced him to write ASOIAF.  The link details some of the surprising similarities between Memory, Sorrow and Thorn and ASOIAF.  
Tad’s fantasy series, The Dragonbone Chair and the rest of his famous four-book trilogy was one of the things that inspired me to write my own seven-book trilogy. I read Tad and was impressed by him, but the imitators that followed — well, fantasy got a bad rep for being very formulaic and ritual. And I read The Dragonbone Chair and said, “My god, they can do something with this form,” and it’s Tad doing it. It’s one of my favorite fantasy series. - GRRM.
Jon Snow’s analogue Simon Snowlock, who has a mysterious lineage, becomes king as a last choice.  Jon is a character who’s been connected in text to a King Aegon the Unlikely who was chosen by a Council and who was not the first choice as the lords distrusted Aegon the Unlikely who’d grown up on the road with commoners. 
I’ve skipped Mel’s visions (”show me your king, your instrument” and the flames whispering Jon’s name and giving Mel a mug shot of Jon) and other points because Mel’s visions are not simple and this post is already too long.
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Do you think Rohanne Webber and Eustace Osgrey had children? Would that explain why House Osgrey of Standfast is not extinct? Or do you think Rohanne gave Coldmoat to her cousin Wendell Webber and gave up rulership to be Lady of Casterly Rock without having an heir for both Coldmoat and Standfast first?
I had a much longer response, but tumblr deleted it at precisely the wrong time. Sorry to keep you waiting, Aredhel!
Eustace Osgrey having at least one child with Rohanne Webber is pretty much the only way House Osgrey isn’t extinct by canon era (westeros.org states the only extinct Reach House is Gardener and Osgrey of leafy lake), since in The Sworn Sword he makes it clear he is the last of the Osgreys due to the death of his children and cousins. At least Rohanne had a cousin Wendell she could’ve given Coldmoat to, but her characterization indicates she’s unlikely to cede her holdfast to him; not only does Septon Sefton call him “grasping and stupid”, but she refuses to take her case against Eustace to Lord Rowan because he’s Wendell’s goodbrother, decided to get married immediately after Longinch’s death to her older neighbor rather than give up her claim to Coldmoat, and she tells Dunk: “Those pissing contests are how lords judge one another's strength, and woe to any man who shows his weakness. A woman must needs piss twice as hard, if she hopes to rule.” Rohanne went through a lot to rule Coldmoat instead of Ser Wendell, so I don’t think she’d willingly give up her seat to him or his heirs. Since she later became Lady of Casterly Rock, and the Lannisters aren’t mentioned to have owned a holdfast in the Reach by canon era, she must’ve had a child by Ser Eustace who became heir to Coldmoat.
So while there’s nothing definite that Eustace and Rohanne had a child, circumstantial evidence (continued survival of Houses Webber and Osgrey, no Lannisters of Coldmoat) indicates they did. It also makes symbolic sense that the daughter of a Targaryen supporter would reconcile with a former Blackfyre supporter over their shared loss in the First Rebellion, marry, and have a child; while the Targaryens and Blackfyres kept fighting for generations, some of their supporters could build a new future together unburdened by old grudges.
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