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Interesting how three new writers came onto the writing team in season 4, and suddenly Dean is allegedly obsessed with high school cheerleaders according to Julie Siege (4.07), and Dabb and Loflin (4.13).
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Executive story editor Daniel Loflin confesses, “I liked writing the soulless version of Sam better than the regular version. I have trouble writing the puppy dog stuff. When I first start writing Sam’s dialogue he talks like a normal dude and then I tone it down later.”
—Supernatural: The Official Companion, Season 6 by Nicholas Knight (page 72)
#I love enabling you guys to be mad at the writers <3#writer’s room#loflin#btw loflin was dabb’s writing partner for almost all of his earlier work on the show#edit: THANK YOU to helenoftroysam for finally digging this up
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Was just reminded of the writer who had trouble writing Sam because that "puppy dog stuff" is so different than how a "normal dude" would talk.
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hi! regarding your last post:
this has been bothering me all day and its now 7pm so thank you for putting me out of my misery <333333
also what does 'puppy dog stuff' even mean, it's really not that hard to understand sam or his actions/emotions 😭
#never heard of loflin before but i already dont have a good view of him after this quote#traumatizedsam#ask
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the interesting thing to me re: the soulmate idea is how it first explicitly occurs in an ep written by Dabb, and so how this idea fits into Dabb’s whole… thing.
#also yes Loflin did co-write this ep#but imo there’s a lot in 5x16 that reappears thru the rest of Dabb’s eps / seasons of the show
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supernatural s7e22 there will be blood (w. andrew dabb, daniel loflin)
spoiler alert, dean fogg's in this one. love his voice! periodic reminder i could not care less about the leviathan plotline. it's so cartoonish and dull
DEAN Okay, man, I have read this more times than the Playboy I found in Dad's duffel. SAM Anna Nicole? DEAN Anna Nicole. Oh, the good – they die young, huh?
i shared part of her name and used to get jokes about her regularly. there's an interesting (and very sad) documentary on netflix about her called "anna nicole smith: you don't know me". and one of the best documentaries i've watched recently i'd recommend even more, about pamela anderson - called "pamela, a love story".
genuinely happy to see crowley. so many side characters are kind of... stiff or over the top. he's the correct amount of top
silly pie focused bickering
DEAN Yeah, Sam, look around. It's friggin' Woodstock. Everybody's hopped up on the brown acid. We don't need the song and dance. Give him a little prick.
i'm so used to Emotional Trauma for the last few episodes of a season i'm not sure what to do with this goofy shit
GLORIA Yesterday I introduced you to this rising star in American business. In this hour, we'll go behind the scenes and answer the question everyone's been asking for months – what makes Dick so hard to beat?
they cannot resist the dick jokes my god
EMILY You were gonna hurt my daddy.
okay.
the magicians s1e13 have you brought me little cakes (w. sera gamble btw & john mcnamara & david reed) - laci j mailey as fen
so she was fen in s1 finale but the role was recast to brittany curran for the remainder of the show
DEAN Well, the creep gets creepier.
fucking seriously. not to mention this kid looks like a bit like young sam/colin ford
EDGAR I smell Sam and Dean Winchester.
kinky
SAM But, Dean... We gave up all our Vamptonite.
is dean dreaming, what is happening lol
DEAN I think any way you slice it, you got Pac Man and True Blood in the same room and that's bad news.
i have a lot of fondness for true blood, but anyway the thought that true blood the show exists in the universe where vampires do exist, it's just tickling me at the moment
well. cute they wrote in the little rescuing the young sam-esque kid. again appreciating the alpha vampire's actor, rick worthy, who is also great on the magicians and wishing he could be in a more regular role than some of the other people on this show :p
wonder if the season finale can make me feel anything.
#supernatural#spnwatch#spn 7x22#andrew dabb#daniel loflin#rick worthy#spnhiky#hiky#laci j mailey#the magicians
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siege: wrote 4x07 it's the great pumpkin, sam winchester (with eric kripke), 4x12 criss angel is a douchebag, 4x18 the monster at the end of this book, 5x05 fallen idols, 5x12 swap meat, 5x17 99 problems
dabb & loflin: wrote 4x06 yellow fever, 4x13 after school special, 4x19 jump the shark, 5x06 i believe the children are our future, 5x11 sam interrupted, 5x16 dark side of the moon, 5x19 hammer of the gods, 6x04 weekend at bobby's, 6x07 family matters, 6x13 unforgiven, 6x18 frontierland, 7x03 the girl next door, 7x08 season seven time for a wedding, 7x14 plucky pennywhistle's magic menagerie, 7x22 there will be blood, 8x02 what's up, tiger mommy?
glass: wrote 6x02 two and a half men, 6x08 all dogs go to heaven, 6x12 like a virgin, 6x19 mommy dearest, 7x04 defending your life, 7x11 adventures in babysitting, 7x18 party on, garth, 8x06 southern comfort, 8x12 as time goes by, 8x18 freaks and geeks, 9x12 sharp teeth, 9x17 mother's little helper, 10x04 paper moon, 10x12 about a boy
charmelo & snyder: wrote 6x06 you can't handle the truth, 6x14 mannequin 3: the reckoning, 6x17 my heart will go on, 9x05 dog dean afternoon, 9x13 the purge, 10x06 ask jeeves, 10x13 halt & catch fire, 11x07 plush, 11x13 love hurts
matthews: wrote 6x05 live free or twi-hard, 6x10 caged heat, 6x16 and then there were none
#yes loflin wrote two solo eps and dabb wrote 29 and became s12-15 showrunner but i'm exercising prosecutorial discretion on the charges here#supernatural#julie siege#andrew dabb#daniel loflin#adam glass#eric charmelo#nicole snyder#brett matthews
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i love it when they give dean a kid to hang out with it recharges my soul
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that fucking READ on dean's whole performance towards the end of the episode, in that last flashback. amanda heckerling you would do NUMBERS on tumblr dot com
i could do w/out the little, almost-new-york-accent "i'm a hero", but y'know (but in contrast to sam's little exit? god. my hEART)
#EPISODES YOU CAN WATCH#it's got. issues. (bc ofc it does dabb and loflin)#but mein gott.....#spn 4x13#spn s4#elliot watches spn
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he would not fucking say that
#i hate 4x13#its not even just the cheerleader comment hes just immediately using a position of power to bully kids ?!? when has he ever done that#and like you know there are young women watching this show having a character they look up to make predatory comments about teenage girls is#literally so irresponsible and creepu#creepy#kripke dabb loflin i am killing and destroying you#and ngl. i would let it slide if he didnt look so fucking ugly in that outfit#he was JUST saying how horrible he feels that he wasnt able to resist 30 years of torture and felt good releasing it why would you. have him#practice that same behavior as a joke#have u heard of writing an episode centered on one of your leads where the other one is still written well#anyway colin ford did an amazing job♥️#and dean. shouldnt have been played by someone named brock#lose-chester is kind of funny though and also right#why do they always say they werent buried they were cremated i know the location of the ashed isnt relevant to the plot but the families#dont know theyre in supernatural lol#the dedications … imagine u die and your legacy is supernatural season 4 episode 13 after school special 💀#finally on sex and violence good lordt. better call thee winchesters
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Me, a Dabb era enjoyer seeing Dabb slander on my poor little posts 😭😔🙄
#it's particularly ironic when you look at their blog and they clearly enjoy a lot of dabb era plots and characterization??#like it's literally just the association with his name and the finale#he's written/co-written 46 eps (nvm editor credits) and there is only *one* that i would say is genuinely poorly written (15x20)#even at his worst (s7 dabb-loflin) the writing isn't bad quality it's a bad the story concept or it's dragged down by a handful of details
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certainly a take.
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Also I definitely welcome samgirls and early seasons purists to vote if they want to make the polls more interesting
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sorry i hate yellow fever so bad
#andrew dabb incapable of being normal about asian people and cultures#oh daniel loflin too#not a single non white person in the whole episode?? about a japanese ghost??#this and girl next door with the white women kitsunes#spn
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so I remember grabbing a clip of this scene (here) because it looked to me like they ADR'd the bees line over something else. out of context and knowing how dean generally talks, I'd vote he's saying physically on the car. but in the delivery, it does seem more like he's swearing on the car. which is weird.
but, roundabout way getting to my point that having so many different writers over the years, sometimes I'll notice little quirks or word usage that seems out of nowhere
like they used to say guano for a hot minute, in episodes: 5x11 (dabb and loflin), 7x01 (gamble), 7x08 (dabb and loflin)
but the one that really stuck out to me was "take it out of their ass."
in 5x16 (dabb and loflin)
ZACHARIAH I can’t close the deal on a couple of flannel-wearing maggots? Everybody’s laughing at me… and they’re right to do it. So! Say yes, don’t say yes; I’m still going to take it out of your asses. It’s personal now, boys, and the last person in the history of creation you want as your enemy is me. And I’ll tell you why. Lucifer may be strong, but I’m… ‘‘petty’’. I’m going to be the angel on your shoulder for the rest of eternity.
5x21 (gamble)
DR. GREEN You mean my brothers. What they did to my brothers. No. The only reasonable thing to do here is to...take it out of their healthy young asses.
(could have sworn there was another instance but that's hard to search for since it can depend on... whose ass it is being taken out of)
I'm not the be-all end-all of references and phrase usages but I am split the difference between dean and sam's ages and like words. especially in earlier years I questioned some of their choices 😂 the obscure and often too old for me references got out of hand for a bit then
also I'm cracking up that my big examples of words that stuck out to me all came from dabb, loflin and gamble 🤪
ps. the bees episode was written by *drumroll* sera gamble
People interpret "on my car" in different ways. Some people believe that Dean is saying that Castiel literally was on his car. Other people believe that Dean is using "on my car" as a swear such as "on my honor".
#supernatural#sera gamble#andrew dabb#daniel loflin#spn 7x23#spn 5x21#spn 5x16#spn 5x11#spn 7x01#spn 7x08#tumblr polls
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