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Expose your fictional crushes
@radicalboob Thank you for the tag!
I should probably note, they aren’t all crushes in the romantic sense, but I do love them all. The middle pic in the third row is supposed to be Liselle - I used a photo of an asari NPC that gives me Liselle vibes because there are no canon images of what Liselle looks like.
I am tagging @sillyliterature @mintysdoodle @uponthenormandy @dreaminginstasis @spectralhero @gaysjureido @spacebunshep @danifart @kirschewine @sugarandstories and anyone who wishes to participate
#meme#character meme#miranda lawson#liara t’soni#jack nought#mordin solus#justicar samara#thane krios#oriana lawson#liselle t’loak#gillian grayson
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@spectralhero 🙀
i got an urge to draw Liselle’s parents last night so i did. Liselle’s father, Donara, is blackjackkent‘s creation; i just put a face to the name
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⬐ @kenasakis ⬎
whatever they told you , it’s a lie .
She’d been helping Aria take care of a little… problem lately that had been happening on Omega. Unprompted of course; she’d done it more as a favour, for all of the help Aria had given her during the war. Kat didn’t mind helping occasionally, though she was trying not to make it a habit; she didn’t want to make it look like she worked for Aria, and she didn’t want others to get the impression that Aria needed her help. Just a little, friendly discussion with a few people, like she was looking for information herself. All of it had turned out to be either the complete opposite, or so ridiculous it had taken all of Kat’s dignity not to burst into laughter at the thought.
“Oh, they told me everything, Aria,” Kat teased, her face mischievous. Nothing had been told, but she was in a good mood for once, and that wasn’t going to stop her from ribbing her friend. The glint in her eye was a dead giveaway, and that much she knew; she also knew that everything she’d heard that she was about to over-exaggerate to comical levels was a load of bullshit. This wasn’t about putting Aria on the spot… though, if an asari could blush...
Taking a careful sip of her drink, Kat debated where to start. “You know, there was something in there about you and a backstage pass to an elcor play about Hamlet. Something about the best seat in the house, I believe it was?” How she was managing to keep a straight face at the moment, Kat hadn’t the faintest clue. Whether Shakespearean plays were within Aria’s tastes or not, Kat wasn’t sure, but an elcor theater troupe putting it on was… difficult to imagine. Nuance and vocal tone was key to those portrayals, and it was something elcor lacked in their associations with other aliens.
“They also, unfortunately, know about the wooden clog collection you’ve been picking up on the black market coming out of Earth.” Pretending to raise her hands apologetically, she winced jokingly, stifling a laugh behind pursed lips as she leaned back. She needed the absurdity to sink in a little before she continued; the absurdity was necessary for just how talkative the idiots had been. “No, honestly, they don’t know anything. In fact, I realized I think I know more about you than they did, for how big of a deal they were making out of their ‘information’.”
#postwar. ❖﹙ you will remember the night you were struck by ⋄ the sight of ten thousand fists in the air. ﹚#kenasakis ❖ aria t’loak﹙ i can’t push aside ⋄ all the broken bones you’re calling a spine. ﹚#please understand kat is making this shit up on the fly and trying to make it as insane-sounding as possible#the more she can get aria to cringe the better of a job she’s done LOL#but tbh: i do think Kat keeps an ear to the ground for things that are actually like… true and personal to aria that she knows about#i.e. if she hears anything about liselle—bc she understands how deeply personal all of that is to aria#(even if she doesn’t know the details)#or like… anything to do with nyreen; that kind of deal#probably bc she thinks about what people would’ve done if they knew who her brother was (and what HE was doing while she was on active duty#& how much of a liability his existence in general is to her (and vice versa)#her little internal protective nature coming out dlksljkljf
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my liselle t’loak obsession strikes again
what if liselle t’loak lived and fled to the citadel in me3?
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😭😭 Aria would be sending agents to keep an eye on Shepard 24/7 if she dated her daughter!
I love the idea of Femshep & Liselle omg.
Thinking about Liselle T'Loak and female Shepard living together and having a dog they probably rescued from some backwards ass planet. Just cuddling and their pup curled up with them after a long ass day.
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Unimpressed with Canon Liselle. Interested in idea of Aria having a kid.
You know what’d actually be fun? Overlord Jr. Competent official heir/sidekick time.
And Wrex is her biodad. Something about overenthusiastic pre-duel farewells - I haven’t decided yet whether or not she was an accident.
(Yes, this makes her significantly older than the canon one, but I dislike the canon so *what the hell, this is my princess OC*.
who probably won’t die.)
#aria t’loak#liselle t'loak#mass effect#Urdnot Wrex#aria t'loak#omega station#mass effect trilogy#original content#my ocs#asari#liselle paternity headcanons#wrex x aleena#mass effect headcanons
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Mass Effect Retribution, a review
Mass Effect Retribution is the third book in the official Mass Effect trilogy by author Drew Karpyshyn, who happens to also be Lead Writer for Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2.
I didn’t expect to pick it up, because to be very honest I didn’t expect to like it. 9 years ago I borrowed Mass Effect Revelations, and I still recall the experience as underwhelming. But this fateful fall of 2020 I had money (yay) and I saw the novel on the shelf of a swedish nerd store. I guess guilt motivated me to give the author another try: guilt, because I’ve been writing a Mass Effect fanfiction for an ungodly amount of years and I’ve been deathly afraid of lore that might contradict my decisions ever since I started -but I knew this book covered elements that are core to plot elements of my story, and I was willing to let my anxiety to the door and see what was up.
Disclaimer: I didn’t reread Mass Effect Revelation before plunging into this read, and entirely skipped Ascension. So anything in relation to character introduction and continuity will have to be skipped.
Back-cover pitch (the official, unbiased, long one)
Humanity has reached the stars, joining the vast galactic community of alien species. But beyond the fringes of explored space lurk the Reapers, a race of sentient starships bent on “harvesting” the galaxy’s organic species for their own dark purpose. The Illusive Man, leader of the pro-human black ops group Cerberus, is one of the few who know the truth about the Reapers. To ensure humanity’s survival, he launches a desperate plan to uncover the enemy’s strengths—and weaknesses—by studying someone implanted with modified Reaper technology. He knows the perfect subject for his horrific experiments: former Cerberus operative Paul Grayson, who wrested his daughter from the cabal’s control with the help of Ascension project director Kahlee Sanders. But when Kahlee learns that Grayson is missing, she turns to the only person she can trust: Alliance war hero Captain David Anderson. Together they set out to find the secret Cerberus facility where Grayson is being held. But they aren’t the only ones after him. And time is running out. As the experiments continue, the sinister Reaper technology twists Grayson’s mind. The insidious whispers grow ever stronger in his head, threatening to take over his very identity and unleash the Reapers on an unsuspecting galaxy. This novel is based on a Mature-rated video game.
Global opinion (TL;DR)
I came in hoping to be positively surprised and learn a thing or two about Reapers, about Cerberus and about Aria T’loak. I wasn’t, and I didn’t learn much. What I did learn was how cool ideas can get wasted by the very nature of game novelization, as the defects are not singular to this novel but quite widespread in this genre, and how annoyed I can get at an overuse of dialogue tags. The pacing is good and the narrative structure alright: everything else poked me in the wrong spots and rubbed how the series have always handled violence on my face with cruder examples. If I was on Good Reads, I’d probably give it something like 2 stars, for the pacing, some of the ideas, and my general sympathy for the IP novel struggle.
The indepth review continue past this point, just know there will be spoilers for the series, the Omega DLC which is often relevant, and the book itself!
What I enjoyed
Drew Karpyshyn is competent in narrative structure, and that does a lot for the pacing. Things rarely drag, and we get from one event to the next seamlessly. I’m not surprised this is one of the book’s qualities, as it comes from the craft of a game writer: pacing and efficiency are mandatory skills in this field. I would have preferred a clearer breaking point perhaps, but otherwise it’s a nice little ride that doesn’t ask a lot of effort from you (I was never tempted to DNF the book because it was so easy to read).
This book is packed with intringuing ideas -from venturing in the mind of the Illusive Man to assist, from the point of view of the victim, to Grayson’s biological transformation and assimilation into the Reaper hivemind, we get plenty to be excited for. I was personally intrigued about Liselle, Aria T’loak’s secret daughter, and eager to get a glimpse at the mind of the Queen Herself -also about how her collaboration with Cerberus came to be. Too bad none of these ideas go anywhere nor are being dealt with in an interesting way!!! But the concepts themselves were very good, so props for setting up interesting premices.
Pain is generally well described. It gets the job done.
I liked Sanak, the batarian that works as a second to Aria. He’s not very well characterized and everyone thinks he’s dumb (rise up for our national himbo), even though he reads almost smarter than her on multiple occasions, but I was happy whenever he was on the page, so yay for Sanak. But it might just be me having a bias for batarians.
Cool to have Kai Leng as a point of view character. I wasn’t enthralled by what was done with it, as he remains incredibly basic and as basically hateable and ungrounded than in Mass Effect 3 (I think he’s very underwhelming as a villain and he should have been built up in Mass Effect 2 to be effective). But there were some neat moments, such as the description of the Afterlife by Grayson who considers it as tugging at his base instincts, compared to Leng’s description of it where everything is deemed disgusting. The execution is not the best, but the concept was fun.
Pre-Reaperification Paul Grayson wasn’t the worst point of view to follow. I wasn’t super involved in his journey and didn’t care when he died one way or the other, but I empathized with his problems and hoped he would find a way out of the cycle of violence. The setup of his character arc was interesting, it’s just sad that any resolution -even negative- was dropped to focus on Reapers and his relationship with Kahlee Sanders, as I think the latter was the least interesting part.
The cover is cool and intringuing. Very soapy. It’s my favorite out of all the official novels, as it owns the cheesier aspect of the series, has nice contrasts and immediately asks questions. Very 90s/2000s. It’s great.
You may notice every thing I enjoyed was coated in complaints, because it’s a reflection of my frustration at this book for setting up interesting ideas and then completely missing the mark in their execution. So without further due, let’s talk about what I think the book didn’t do right.
1. Dumb complaints that don’t matter much
After reading the entire book, I am still a bit confused at to why Tim (the Illusive Man’s acronym is TIM in fandom, but I find immense joy in reffering to him as just Tim) wants his experimentation to be carried out on Grayson specifically, especially when getting to him is harder than pretty much anyone else (also wouldn’t pushing the very first experiments on alien captives make more sense given it’s Cerberus we’re talking about?). It seem to be done out of petty revenge, which is fine, but it still feels like quite the overlook to mess with a competent fighter, enhance him, and then expect things to stay under control (which Tim kind of doesn’t expect to, and that’s even weirder -why waste your components on something you plan to terminate almost immediately). At the same time, the pettiness is the only characterization we get out of Tim so good I guess? But if so, I wished it would have been accentuated to seem even more deliberate (and not have Tim regret to see it in himself, which flattens him and doesn’t inform the way he views the world and himself -but we’ll get to that).
I really disliked the way space travel is characterized. And that might be entirely just me, and perhaps it doesn’t contradict the rest of the lore, but space travel is so fast. People pop up left and right in a matter of hours. At some point we even get a mention of someone being able to jump 3 different Mass Relays and then arrive somewhere in 4 hours. I thought you first had to discharge your ship around a stellar object before being able to engage in the next jump (and that imply finding said object, which would have to take more than an hour). It’s not that big of a deal, but it completely crammed this giant world to a single boulevard for me and my hard-science-loving tastes. Not a big deal, but not a fan at all of this choice.
You wouldn’t believe how often people find themselves in a fight naked or in their underwear. It happens at least 3 times (and everyone naked survives -except one, we’ll get to her later).
Why did I need to know about this fifteen year’s old boner for his older teacher. Surely there were other ways to have his crush come across without this detail, or then have it be an actual point of tension in their relationship and not just a “teehee” moment. Weird choice imo.
I’m not a fan of the Talons. I don’t find them interesting or compelling. There is nothing about them that informs us on the world they live in. The fact they’re turian-ruled don’t tell us anything about turian culture that, say, the Blue Suns don’t tell us already. It’s a generic gang that is powerful because it is. I think they’re very boring, in this book and in the Omega DLC alike (a liiittle less in the DLC because of Nyreen, barely). Not a real criticism, I just don’t care for them at all.
I might just be very ace, but I didn’t find Anderson and Kahlee Sanders to have much chemistry. Same for Kahlee and Grayson (yes we do have some sort of love-triangle-but-not-really, but it’s not very important and it didn’t bother me much). Their relationships were all underwhelming to me, and I’ll explain why in part 4.
The red sand highs are barely described, and very safely -probably not from a place of intimate knowledge with drugs nor from intense research. Addiction is a delicate topic, and I feel like it could have been dealt with better, or not be included at all.
There are more of these, but I don’t want to turn this into a list of minor complaints for things that are more a matter of taste than craft quality or thematic relevance. So let’s move on.
2. Who cares about aliens in a Mass Effect novel
Now we’re getting into actual problems, and this one is kind of endemic to the Mass Effect novels (I thought the same when I read Revelation 9 years ago, though maybe less so as Saren in a PoV character -but I might have forgotten so there’s that). The aliens are described and characterized in the most uncurious, uninspired manner. Krogans are intimidating brutes. Turians are rigid. Asaris are sexy. Elcors are boring. Batarians are thugs (there is something to be said with how Aria’s second in command is literally the same batarian respawned with a different name in Mass Effect 2, this book, then the Omega DLC). Salarians are weak nerds. (if you allow me this little parenthesis because of course I have to complain about salarian characterization: the only salarian that speaks in the book talks in a cheap ripoff of Mordin’s speech pattern, which sucks because it’s specific to Mordin and not salarians as a whole, and is there to be afraid of a threat as a joke. This is SUCH a trope in the original trilogy -especially past Mass Effect 1 when they kind of give up on salarians except for a few chosen ones-, that salarians’ fear is not to be taken seriously and the only salarians who are to be considered don’t express fear at all -see Mordin and Kirrahe. It happens at least once per game, often more. This is one of the reasons why the genophage subplot is allowed to be so morally simple in ME3 and remove salarians from the equation. I get why they did that, but it’s still somewhat of a copeout. On this front, I have to give props to Andromeda for actually engaging with violence on salarians in a serious manner. It’s a refreshing change) I didn’t learn a single thing about any of these species, how they work, what they care about in the course of these 79750 words. I also didn’t learn much about their relationships to other species, including humans. I’ll mention xenophobia in more details later, but this entire aspect of the story takes a huge hit because of this lack of investment of who these species are.
I’ve always find Mass Effect, despite its sprawling universe full of vivid ideas and unique perspectives, to be strangely enamoured with humans, and it has never been so apparent than here. Only humans get to have layers, deserving of empathy and actual engagement. Only their pain is real and important. Only their death deserve mourning (we’ll come back to that). I’d speculate this comes from the same place that was terrified to have Liara as a love interest in ME1 in case she alienated the audience, and then later was surprised when half the fanbase was more interested in banging the dinosaur-bird than their fellow humans: Mass Effect often seem afraid of losing us and breaking our capacity for self-projection. It’s a very weird concern, in my opinion, that reveals the most immature, uncertain and soapy parts of the franchise. Here it’s punched to eleven, and I find it disappointing. It also have a surprising effect on the narrative: again, we’ll come back to that.
3. The squandered potential of Liselle and Aria
Okay. This one hurts. Let’s talk about Liselle: she’s introduced in the story as a teammate to Grayson, who at the time works as a merc for Aria T’loak on Omega, and also sleeps with him on the regular. She likes hitting the Afterlife’s dancefloor: she’s very admired there, as she’s described as extremely attractive. One night after receiving a call from Grayson, she rejoins him in his apartment. They have sex, then Kai Leng and other Cerberus agents barge in to capture Grayson -a fight break out (the first in a long tradition of naked/underwear fights), and both of them are stunned with tranquilizers. Grayson is to be taken to the Illusive Man. Kai Leng decides to slit Liselle’s throat as she lays unconscious to cover their tracks. When Aria T’loak and her team find her naked on a bed, throat gaping and covered in blood, Liselle is revealed, through her internal monologue, to be Aria’s secret daughter -that she kept secret for both of their safety. So Liselle is a sexpot who dies immediately in a very brutal and disempowered manner. This is a sad way to handle Aria T’loak’s daughter I think, but I assume it was done to give a strong motivation to the mother, who thinks Grayson did it. And also, it’s a cool setup to explore her psyche: how does she feel about business catching up with her in such a personal manner, how does she feel about the fact she couldn’t protect her own offspring despite all her power, what’s her relationship with loss and death, how does she slip when under high emotional stress, how does she deal with such a vulnerable position of having to cope without being able to show any sign of weakness... But the book does nothing with that. The most interesting we get is her complete absence of outward reaction when she sees her daughter as the centerpiece of a crime scene. Otherwise we have mentions that she’s not used to lose relatives, vague discomfort when someone mentions Liselle might have been raped, and vague discomfort at her body in display for everyone to gawk at. It’s not exactly revelatory behavior, and the missed potential is borderline criminal. It also doesn’t even justify itself as a strong motivation, as Aria vaguely tries to find Grayson again and then gives up until we give her intel on a silver platter. Then it almost feels as if she forgot her motivation for killing Grayson, and is as motivated by money than she is by her daughter’s murder (and that could be interesting too, but it’s not done in a deliberate way and therefore it seems more like a lack of characterization than anything else).
Now, to Aria. Because this book made me realize something I strongly dislike: the framing might constantly posture her as intelligent, but Aria T’loak is... kind of dumb, actually? In this book alone she’s misled, misinformed or tricked three different times. We’re constantly ensured she’s an amazing people reader but never once do we see this ability work in her favor -everyone fools her all the time. She doesn’t learn from her mistakes and jump from Cerberus trap to Cerberus trap, and her loosing Omega to them later is laughably stupid after the bullshit Tim put her through in this book alone. I’m not joking when I say the book has to pull out an entire paragraph on how it’s easier to lie to smart people to justify her complete dumbassery during her first negotiation with Tim. She doesn’t seem to know anything about how people work that could justify her power. She’s not politically savvy. She’s not good at manipulation. She’s just already established and very, very good at kicking ass. And I wouldn’t mind if Aria was just a brutish thug who maintains her power through violence and nothing else, that could also be interesting to have an asari act that way. But the narrative will not bow to the reality they have created for her, and keep pretending her flaw is in extreme pride only. This makes me think of the treatment of Sansa Stark in the latest seasons of Game of Thrones -the story and everyone in it is persuaded she’s a political mastermind, and in the exact same way I would adore for it to be true, but it’s just... not. It’s even worse for Aria, because Sansa does have victories by virtue of everyone being magically dumber than her whenever convenient. Aria just fails, again and again, and nobody seem to ever acknowledge it. Sadly her writing here completely justifies her writing in the Omega DLC and the comics, which I completely loathe; but turns out Aria isn’t smart or savvy, not even in posture or as a façade. She’s just violent, entitled, easily fooled, and throws public tantrums when things don’t go her way. And again, I guess that would be fine if only the narrative would recognize what she is. Me, I will gently ignore most of this (in her presentation at least, because I think it’s interesting to have something pitiful when you dig a little) and try to write her with a bit more elevation. But this was a very disappointing realization to have.
4. The squandered potential of Grayson and the Reapers
The waste of a subplot with Aria and Liselle might have hurt me more in a personal way, but what went down between Grayson and the Reapers hurts the entire series in a startling manner. And it’s so infuriating because the potential was there. Every setpiece was available to create something truly unique and disturbing by simply following the series’ own established lore. But this is not what happens. See, when The Illusive Man, our dearest Tim, captures Grayson for a betrayal that happened last book (something about his biotic autistic daughter -what’s the deal with autistic biotics being traumatized by Cerberus btw), he decides to use him as the key part of an experiment to understand how Reapers operate. So he forcefully implants the guy with Reaper technology (what they do exactly is unclear) to study his change into a husk and be prepared when Reapers come for humanity -it’s also compared to what happened with Saren when he “agreed” to be augmented by Sovereign. From there on, Grayson slowly turns into a husk. Doesn’t it sound fascinating, to be stuck in the mind of someone losing themselves to unknowable monsters? If you agree with me then I’m sorry because the execution is certainly... not that. The way the author chooses to describe the event is to use the trope of mind control used in media like Get Out: Grayson taking the backseat of his own mind and body. And I haaaaate it. I hate it so much. I don’t hate the trope itself (it can be interesting in other media, like Get Out!), but I loathe that it’s used here in a way that totally contradicts both the lore and basic biology. Grayson doesn’t find himself manipulated. He doesn’t find himself justifying increasingly jarring actions the way Saren has. He just... loses control of himself, disagreeing with what’s being done with him but not able to change much about it. He also can fight back and regain control sometimes -but his thoughts are almost untainted by Reaper influence. The technology is supposed to literally replace and reorganize the cells of his body; is this implying that body and mind are separated, that there maybe exists a soul that transcends indoctrination? I don’t know but I hate it. This also implies that every victim of the Reaper is secretely aware of what they’re doing and pained and disagreeing with their own actions. And I’m sorry but if it’s true, I think this sucks ass and removes one of the creepiest ideas of the Mass Effect universe -that identity can and will be lost, and that Reapers do not care about devouring individuality and reshaping it to the whims of their inexorable march. Keeping a clear stream of consciousness in the victim’s body makes it feel like a curse and not like a disease. None of the victims are truly gone that way, and it removes so much of the tragic powerlessness of organics in their fight against the machines. Imagine if Saren watched himself be a meanie and being like “nooo” from within until he had a chance to kill himself in a near-victorious battle, compared to him being completely persuaded he’s acting for the good of organic life until, for a split second, he comes to realize he doesn’t make any sense and is loosing his mind like someone with dementia would, and needs to grasp to this instant to make the last possible thing he could do to save others and his own mind from domination. I feel so little things for Saren in the former case, and so much for the latter. But it might just be me: I’m deeply touched by the exploration of how environment and things like medication can change someone’s behavior, it’s such a painfully human subject while forceful mind control is... just kind of cheap.
SPEAKING OF THE REAPERS. Did you know “The Reapers” as an entity is an actual character in this book? Because it is. And “The Reapers” is not a good character. During the introduction of Grayson and explaining his troubles, we get presented with the mean little voice in his head. It’s his thoughts in italics, nothing crazy, in fact it’s a little bit of a copeout from actually implementing his insecurities into the prose. But I gave the author the benefit of the doubt, as I knew Grayson would be indoctrinated later, and I fully expected the little voice to slowly start twisting into what the Reapers suggested to him. This doesn’t happen, or at least not in that slowburn sort of way. Instead the little voice is dropped almost immediately, and the Reapers are described, as a presence. And as the infection progresses, what Grayson do become what the Reapers do. The Reapers have emotions, it turns out. They’re disgusted at organic discharges. They’re pleased when Grayson accomplish what they want, and it’s told as such. They foment little plans to get their puppet to point A to point B, and we are privy to their calculations. And I’m sorry but the best way to ruin your lovecraftian concept is to try and explain its motivations and how it thinks. Because by definition the unknown is scarier, smarter, and colder than whatever a human author could come up with. I couldn’t take the Reapers’ dumb infiltration plans seriously, and now I think they are dumb all the time, and I didn’t want to!! The only cases in which the Reapers influence Grayson, we are told in very explicit details how so. For example, they won’t let Grayson commit suicide by flooding his brain with hope and determination when he tries, or they will change the words he types when he tries to send a message to Kahlee Sanders. And we are told exactly what they do every time. There was a glorious occasion to flex as a writer by diving deep into an unreliable narrator and write incredibly creepy prose, but I guess we could have been confused, and apparently that’s not allowed. And all of this is handled that poorly becauuuuuse...
5. Subtext is dead and Drew killed it
Now we need to talk about the prose. The style of the author is... let’s be generous and call it functional. It’s about clarity. The writing is so involved in its quest for clarity that it basically ruins the book, and most of the previous issues are direct consequences of the prose and adjacent decisions.The direct prose issues are puzzling, as they are known as rookie technical flaws and not something I would expect from the series’ Lead Writer for Mass Effect 1 and 2, but in this book we find problems such as:
The reliance on adverbs. Example: "Breathing heavily from the exertion, he stood up slowly”. I have nothing about a well-placed adverb that gives a verb a revelatory twist, but these could be replaced by stronger verbs, or cut altogether.
Filtering. Example: “Anderson knew that the fact they were getting no response was a bad sign”. This example is particularly egregious, but characters know things, feel things, realize things (boy do they realize things)... And this pulls us away from their internal world instead of making us live what they live, expliciting what should be implicit. For example, consider the alternative: “They were getting no reponse, which was a bad sign in Anderson’s experience.” We don’t really need the “in Anderson’s experience” either, but that already brings us significantly closer to his world, his lived experience as a soldier.
The goddamn dialogue tags. This one is the worst offender of the bunch. Nobody is allowed to talk without a dialogue tag in this book, and wow do people imply, admit, inform, remark and every other verb under the sun. Consider this example, which made me lose my mind a little: “What are you talking about? Kahlee wanted to know.” I couldn’t find it again, but I’m fairly certain I read a “What is it?” Anderson wanted to know. as well. Not only is it very distracting, it’s also yet another way to remove reader interpretation from the equation (also sometimes there will be a paragraph break inside a monologue -not even a long one-, and that doesn’t seem to be justified by anything? It’s not as big of a problem than the aversion to subtext, but it still confused me more than once)
Another writing choice that hurts the book in disproportionate ways is the reliance on point of view switches. In Retribution, we get the point of view of: Tim, Paul Grayson, Kai Leng, Kahlee Sanders, David Anderson, Aria T’loak, and Nick (a biotic teenager, the one with the boner). Maybe Sanak had a very small section too, but I couldn’t find it again so don’t take my word for it. That’s too many point of views for a plot-heavy 80k book in my opinion, but even besides that: the point of view switch several times in one single chapter. This is done in the most harmful way possible for tension: characters involved in the same scene take turns on the page explaining their perspective about the events, in a way that leaves the reader entirely aware of every stake to every character and every information that would be relevant in a scene. Take for example the first negotiation between Aria and Tim. The second Aria needs to ponder what her best move could possibly be, we get thrown back into Tim’s perspective explaining the exact ways in which he’s trying to deceive her -removing our agency to be either convinced or fooled alongside her. This results in a book that goes out of his way to keep us from engaging with its ideas and do any mental work on our own. Everything is laid out, bare and as overexplained as humanly possible. The format is also very repetitive: characters talk or do an action, and then we spend a paragraph explaining the exact mental reasoning for why they did what they did. There is nothing to interpret. No subtext at all whatsoever; and this contributes in casting a harsh light on the Mass Effect universe, cheapening it and overtly expliciting some of its worst ideas instead of leaving them politely blurred and for us to dress up in our minds. There is only one theme that remains subtextual in my opinion. And it’s not a pretty one.
6. Violence
So here’s the thing when you adapt a third person shooter into a novel: you created a violent world and now you will have to deal with death en-masse too (get it get it I’m so sorry). But while in videogames you can get away with thoughtless murder because it’s a gameplay mechanic and you’re not expected to philosophize on every splatter of blood, novels are all about internalization. Violent murder is by definition more uncomfortable in books, because we’re out of gamer conventions and now every death is actual when in games we just spawned more guys because we wanted that level to be a bit harder and on a subconscious level we know this and it makes it somewhat okay. I felt, in this book, a strange disconnect between the horrendous violence and the fact we’re expected to care about it like we would in a game: not much, or as a spectacle. Like in a game, we are expected to root for the safety of named characters the story indicated us we should be invested in. And because we’re in a book, this doesn’t feel like the objective truth of the universe spelled at us through user interface and quest logs, but the subjective worldview of the characters we’re following. And that makes them.... somewhat disturbing to follow.
I haven’t touched on Anderson and Kahlee Sanders much yet, but now I guess I have too, as they are the worst offenders of what is mentioned above. Kahlee cares about Grayson. She only cares about Grayson -and her students like the forementioned Nick, but mostly Grayson. Grayson is out there murdering people like it’s nobody’s business, but still, keeping Grayson alive is more important that people dying like flies around him. This is vaguely touched on, but not with the gravitas that I think was warranted. Also, Anderson goes with it. Because he cares about Kahlee. Anderson organizes a major political scandal between humans and turians because of Kahlee, because of Grayson. He convinces turians to risk a lot to bring Cerberus down, and I guess that could be understandable, but it’s mostly manipulation for the sake of Grayson’s survival: and a lot of turians die as a result. But not only turians: I was not comfortable with how casually the course of action to deal a huge blow to Cerberus and try to bring the organization down was to launch assault on stations and cover-ups for their organization. Not mass arrests: military assault. They came to arrest high operatives, maybe, but the grunts were okay to slaughter. This universe has a problem with systemic violence by the supposedly good guys in charge -and it’s always held up as the righteous and efficient way compared to these UGH boring politicians and these treaties and peace and such (amirite Anderson). And as the cadavers pile up, it starts to make our loveable protagonists... kind of self-centered assholes. Also: I think we might want to touch on who these cadavers tend to be, and get to my biggest point of discomfort with this novel.
Xenophobia is hard to write well, and I super sympathize with the attempts made and their inherent difficulty. This novel tries to evoke this theme in multiple ways: by virtue of having Cerberus’ heart and blade as point of view characters, we get a window into Tim and Kai Leng’s bigotry against aliens, and how this belief informs their actions. I wasn’t ever sold in their bigotry as it was shown to us. Tim evokes his scorn for whatever aliens do and how it’s inferior to humanity’s resilience -but it’s surface-level, not informed by deep and specific entranched beliefs on aliens motives and bodies, and how they are a threat on humanity according to them. The history of Mass Effect is rich with conflict and baggage between species, yet every expression of hatred is relegated to a vague “eww aliens” that doesn’t feed off systemically enforced beliefs but personal feelings of mistrust and disgust. I’ll take this example of Kai Leng, and his supposedly revulsion at the Afterlife as a peak example of alien decadence: he sees an asari in skimpy clothing, and deems her “whorish”. And this feels... off. Not because I don’t think Kai Leng would consider asaris whorish, but because this is supposed to represent Cerberus’ core beliefs: yet both him and Tim go on and on about how their goal is to uplift humanity, how no human is an enemy. But if that’s the case, then what makes Kai Leng call an Afterlife asari whorish and mean it in a way that’s meaningfully different from how he would consider a human sex worker in similar dispositions? Not that I don’t buy that Cerberus would have a very specific idea of what humans need to be to be considered worth preserving as good little ur-fascists, but this internal bias is never expressed in any way, and it makes the whole act feel hollow. Cerberus is not the only offender, though. Every time an alien expresses bias against humans in a way we’re meant to recognize as xenophobic, it reads the same way: as personal dislike and suspicion. As bullying. Which is such a small part of what bigotry encompasses. It’s so unspecific and divorced from their common history that it just never truly works in my opinion. You know what I thought worked, though? The golden trio of non-Cerberus human characters, and their attitude towards aliens. Grayson’s slight fetishism and suspicion of his attraction to Liselle, how bestial (in a cool, sexy way) he perceives the Afterlife to be. The way Anderson and Kahlee use turians for their own ends and do not spare a single thought towards those who died directly trying to protect them or Grayson immediately after the fact (they are more interested in Kahlee’s broken fingers and in kissing each other). How they feel disgust watching turians looting Cerberus soldiers, not because it’s disrespectful in general and the deaths are a inherent tragedy but because they are turians and the dead are humans. But it's not even really on them: the narration itself is engrossed by the suffering of humans, but aliens are relegated to setpieces in gore spectacles. Not even Grayson truly cares about the aliens the Reapers make him kill. Nobody does. Not even the aliens among each other: see, once again, Aria and Liselle, or Aria and Sanak. Nobody cares. At the very end of the story, Anderson comes to Kahlee and asks if she gives him permission to have Grayson’s body studied, the same way Cerberus planned to. It’s source of discomfort, but Kahlee gives in as it’s important, and probably what Grayson would have wanted, maybe? So yeah. In the end the only subtextual theme to find here (probably as an accident) is how the Alliance’s good guys are not that different from Cerberus it turns out. And I’m not sure how I feel about that.
7. Lore-approved books, or the art of shrinking an expanding universe
I’d like to open the conversation on a bigger topic: the very practice of game novelization, or IP-books. Because as much as I think Drew Karpyshyn’s final draft should not have ended up reading that amateur given the credits to his name, I really want to acknowledge the realities of this industry, and why the whole endeavor was perhaps doomed from the start regardless of Karpyshyn’s talent or wishes as an author.
The most jarring thing about this reading experience is as follows: I spent almost 80k words exploring this universe with new characters and side characters, all of them supposedly cool and interesting, and I learned nothing. I learned nothing new about the world, nothing new about the characters. Now that it’s over, I’m left wondering how I could chew on so much and gain so little. Maybe it’s just me, but more likely it’s by design. Not on poor Drew. Now that I did IP work myself, I have developed an acute sympathy for anyone who has to deal with the maddening contradictions of this type of business. Let me explain.
IP-adjacent media (in the West at least) sure has for goal to expand the universe: but expand as in bloat, not as in deepen. The target for this book is nerds like me, who liked the games and want more of this thing we liked. But then we’re confronted by two major competitors: the actual original media (in ME’s case, the games) whose this product is a marketing tool for, and fandom. IP books are not allowed to compete with the main media: the good ideas are for the main media, and any meaningful development has to be made in the main media (see: what happened with Kai Leng, or how everyone including me complains about the worldbuilding to the Disney Star Swars trilogy being hidden in the novelization). And when it comes to authorship (as in: taking an actual risk with the media and give it a personal spin), then we risk introducing ideas that complicate the main media even though a ridiculously small percent of the public will be attached to it, or ideas that fans despise. Of course we can’t have the latter. And once the fandom is huge enough, digging into anything the fans have strong headcanons for already risks creating a lot of emotions once some of these are made canon and some are disregarded. As much as I joke about how in Mass Effect you can learn about any gun in excrutiating details but we still don’t know if asaris have a concept for marriage... would we really want to know how/if asaris marry, or aren’t we glad we get to be creative and put our own spin on things? The dance between fandom and canon is a delicate one that can and will go wrong. And IP books are generally not worth the drama for the stakeholders.
Add this to insane deadlines, numerous parties all involved in some way and the usual struggles of book writing, and we get a situation where creating anything of value is pretty much a herculean task.
But then I ask... why do IP books *have* to be considered canon? I know this is part of the appeal, and that removing the “licenced” part only leaves us with published fanfiction, but... yeah. Yeah. I think it could be a fascinating model. Can you imagine having your IP and hiring X amount of distinctive authors to give it their own spin, not as definitive additions to the world but as creative endeavours and authorial deepdives? It would allow for these novels to be comparative and companion to the main media instead of being weird appendages that can never compare, and the structure would allow for these stories to be polished and edited to a higher level than most fanfictions. Of course I’m biased because I have a deep belief in the power of fanfiction as commentary and conversational piece. But I would really love to see companies’ approach to creative risk and canon to change. We might get Disney stuff until we die now, so the least we can ask for is for this content to be a little weird, personal and human.
That’s it. That’s the whole review. Thank you for reading, it was very long and weirdly passionate, have a nice dayyyyy.
#Mass Effect#mass effect retribution#me critical#writing#mass effect novels#anderson#kahlee sanders#Aria T'loak#paul grayson#liselle#salarians#IP conversation#omega#mass effect lore#reapers#book review
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sana!
Sana it is! She’s so much fun to write istg :D
Headcanon A:realistic
While Sana is aro ace herself, she has the heart of ashipper and has a long history of trying to set up people she thinks would becute couples. She and Admiral Drescher bond over a shared ship.
Headcanon B: while itmay not be realistic it is hilarious
Sana has built a nice little fortune for herself, but shealmost never has spend any of it. Between all the favors and sensitiveinformation she has on a significant number of Matriarchs and otherhigh-ranking politicians, she can walk into virtually any restaurant, hotel, orclub for the asking and be treated to the red-carpet treatment. She’s the sortof person everyone knows but no one talks about, and she never abuses herposition because that would mean having to pay for her own overpriced cocktails.
Headcanon C:heart-crushing and awful, but fun to inflict on friends
Survival is Sana’s albatross, but she does the best she canwith it. She’s still in her Matron stage during the Reaper War, and she livesfor centuries to come after that. She sees everyone die—Alli, Hannah, Dess, mostof her family in the Vallum Blast—and while she builds new family andfriendships, they’re never quite the same. She starts working as an agent of theShadow Broker around the time that Alli breaks ties with Cerberus, but her realcontribution to Liara’s work is helping her to fill out Shepard’s entry in theinformation pods she scatters across the galaxy. She tells the story ofCommander Allistair Shepard—the child, the woman, the hero, the legend.
Headcanon D:unrealistic, but I will disregard canon about it because I reject canon realityand substitute my own.
There is in fact exactly one person who intimidates Aria T’Loak,and her name is Dr. Sana T’Oriza. However, it’s not because Sana is threateningor dangerous—it’s because Sana has seen Aria be vulnerable. She treated forAria during her pregnancy, delivered Liselle, and even cared for her duringAria’s coup on Omega. She also happens to know who Liselle’s father is, whichputs her in a unique position. Aria is poised on a knife’s edge of feeling likeshe owes Sana everything and being afraid that Sana will use that informationat any moment against her. Really, it’s good Sana left Omega when she didbecause I think Aria might’ve eventually tried to eliminate her.
#hows about a meme thingy#Sana T'Oriza#Family Resemblance#headcanons#thank you for the ask!!#ferocious replies#verhexen
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I wonder if it’s just me who thinks Lais Ribeiro as asari would look a bit similar to Aria, enough to pass for her daughter
I think it’s just hard to see because Lais has a different skin tone, obviously, she has hair, eyebrows and doesn’t have facial markings. And I think facial markings and eyebrows make a lot of difference. Aria has markings around her eyes that make her look more intimidating, which is why Lais looks so drastically different at first glance
but I think there’s similarity between the two at further glance
both possess angular jawlines
Full, rounded lips, the shape is similar
Now look at the face shape.. both have narrow and long faces, a defined and thin nose, and a defined chin
Aria and Lais both have almond shaped eyes
Now make Lais a blueish purple, give her purple lips, grey blue eyes, remove the hair and add a scalp crest, Aria’s cheekbone markings, and some dark eyeshadow and waterline eyeliner. Then you’ve got someone who could look like a daughter of Aria’s.
@spectralhero can you see the resemblance 😅 I think they look so dramatically difference at first glance due to their difference in facial expression. Lais just looks so kind!
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Here’s another profile for another Shepard. I was casually playing ME1 again, and there she was ~ she came out like a breath of fresh air
Full Name: Kiriya-Alekzandra Shepard
Alias: Alison Gunn, Elizabeth Mikhail
Codename: Agent X or Zerox
Age: 22 (youngest to ever join in the Alliance, and youngest to ever recieve the star of Terra) => WARHERO
Height: 176cm
Weight: 43kg (she is underweight, due to forgetting to eat, much like Kilian, Kiriya ends up being monitored daily by Chakwas and the rest of her crew in order to ensure her survival)
Date of Birth: 21.07.2159 (I know that canon Shepard is born on April 4 2154, but this is my headcanon)
Eye colour: Blue (Kiriya got her eyes from her mother and her overall looks mostly from her father)
Hair colour: Red (her natural hair color is black, but she dyes it red taking advantage of the SPECTRE status, much to the annoyance of Mikhailovich)
Skin tone: Lite/Tanned???
Hair type: Short
Body type: Athletic (yet also severely underweight, due to simply forgetting to eat... saving the galaxy aint easy after all)
Species: Human
Ethnicity: Japanese-American
Homeland: well, she was born on the SSV KILIMANJARO several months early, her mother was forced by the entire crew to take leave. => SPACER
Hobbies/Interests: Singing, cooking, baking, writing, shooting idiot Batarians, music, languages, and painting
Likes: Sketching, studying, and building miniture toy models
Dislikes: Xenophobics, Batarians, the Citadel Council (depending on the day),
Best friends: Jeff ‘Joker’ Moreau, Garrus Vakarian, Liselle T’loak (Kiriya massacred a lot of Cerberus Agents after finding out about her death via the shadowbroker, it took 3 alliance fleets to properly calm her down, yet she was never charged as the Alliance viewed it as cleaning up shop... in a manner of speaking)
Sexuality: Die-hard Lesbian
Romantic Interest(s): Tela Vasir (lol bet ya weren’t expecting that were ya lol)
Pet/Animal Companion: a pet varren which she was forced to leave behind as Admiral Hackett stated that the war ship was not an appropriate place to raise such a pet
Personality: humorous, sarcastic and witty. Though when she deals with the council she usually tends to be diplomatic, cold and uncaring for them. Mainly due to the fact that she was pretty much forced to deal with their crap during the hunt for Saren. Hell, when the collector’s attack happened, she was expecting the council to do something, when they refused... she told them to jump of a cliff, before resigning publicly. The publicity from this event, garnered her a lot of fans (from human, to asari, to turians, to krogan)
Hidden Talent: Kiriya is an exellent cook, to the point when she starts cooking both the Normandy crew and the Arcturus station fleet will literally get into fights for the last piece. Wrex usually tends to win in these cases
Allies/Friends: Joker, Garrus, Thane, Samara (and her daughters), the Systems Alliance, Aria T’loak, Ashley, Kaidan, Kelly, Miranda and Oriana Lawson, Tali and the Quarians, Geth (Legion), STG (Major Kirrahe and his unit), Mordin, Wrex, Jack, Kahlee Sanders, David Anderson, Steven Hackett, Ken and Gabby, Engineer Adams, Dr. Karin Chakwas, Pressley, Jacob, CORSAIRS, Grunt, Kas and many others
Enemies/Nemesis: Cerberus, KaiLeng, Reapers,
Weapon Preferences: (bear with me, I know that there’s a few crossovers with Bleach, Toji no Miko and Devil May Cry but like I said previously my headcanon..)
Guns (Ebony and Ivory)
Swords/Zanpaktou (Benihime, Rebellion, Chidori, Shirayuki, Senbonzakura, Zangetsu)
Abilities:
Master Tactician Weapons Expert Biotics
Master Strategist Hacking Expert
Combat Expert Stealth/Infiltration Expert
Skills: Warp, Singularity, Reave, Dark Channel,
Family:
Rear Adm. Hannah Shepard nee Hitsukawa (mother)
Commander Jonathan Alexander Shepard (father)
Dr. Karin Chakwas/Kahlee Sanders (Godmothers)
Adm. David Anderson/Adm Steven Hackett (Godfathers)
Headcanon
Kiriya is the youngest of her siblings, yet despite being the youngest, she was the fastest to mature. She was a surprise to both her parents and their families. With both sides of grandparents always dismissing her, she grew up isolated whenever she was forced to stay with her grandparents. While she was born in space, she was raised in Mindoir. Reaching the age of 16, Mindoir was attacked, and she lost her friends in a fight for survival. When her family found out the news, they had all raced to Huerta. Only to see she was in a medically induced coma. Being forced to grow up early, she saw what the Galaxy was like. Choosing to join the Alliance to ensure that no one will ever face what she has faced, she was rejected by the Alliance brass who did not want to anger her mother. originally they told that she was too young, only for Udina and Mikhailovich to vouch for her. She graduated with the highest of achievements, and was immediately placed in the N7 program. She met Joker on Arcuturus Station when they were both just children, and since then they have been thick as thieves. Adm. Anderson asked for her specifically so he could bond more with his god-daughter. Chakwas immediately jumped at the chance to reaquaint herself with Kiriya. Not realizing that Kiriya suffers from memory loss. She has no idea who they are...
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we should make a liselle t’loak fanclub omg
We should!!!
I honest to goodness am so happy to see another person show love for Liselle. She deserves it and quite honestly she lives as far as I am concerned. I need her to :(
I found a story, which is mainly about female Shepard and Liara but Liselle plays a way bigger role in it and I absolutely LOVE how this person writes Liselle. You can check them out here.
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Statistics for this year’s exchange
Greetings, everyone! With this year’s exchange complete with 155 glorious fics (go read some of them, if you haven’t already), it’s time for a look at the most popular relationships and characters. These will be Top 5 lists, unless there’s a tie that necessitates going past 5.
Relationships
Most Popular Overall
Tiran Kandros/Female Ryder -- 10 stories
Female Shepard/James Vega -- 7 stories
Harry Carlyle/Female Ryder -- 7 stories
Kaetus/Sloane Kelly -- 6 stories
Evfra de Tershaav/Female Ryder -- 5 stories
The Andromeda ships dominated the most popular list, with the exception of FShega (on its last year of eligibility). They were also all heterosexual ‘ships, so the “overall” list also serves as the “het” list.
Most Popular - F/F
Female Shepard/Ashley Williams -- 4 stories
Female Shepard/Samantha Traynor -- 4 stories
Female Shepard/Jack -- 4 stories
Cora Harper/Female Ryder -- 3 stories
Female Shepard/Aria T’Loak -- 3 stories
The ladies of the trilogy took the lead here. FemShep/Aria made this a top 5 with two last-minute treats, because there were an absolute ton of two story f/f ‘ships.
Most Popular - M/M
Garrus Vakarian/Zaeed Massani -- 3 stories
Bain Massani/Reyes Vidal -- 2 stories
Gil Brodie/Kallo Jath -- 2 stories
Saren Arterius/Nihlus Kryik -- 2 stories
Steve Cortez/James Vega -- 2 stories
Steven Hackett/Zaeed Massani -- 2 stories
The Massanis had a very strong showing here. Vaksani is one of the big winners of this exchange, since only one person requested it (and got 3 stories!). Notably absent is MShep and MRyder.
The rest of the lists serve as both the “most popular” and “what got written”, because there weren’t nearly as many in these categories.
Gen
Female Shepard & Urz -- 2 stories
Mordin Solus & Eve -- 1 story
Multi
Kaidan Alenko/Female Shepard/James Vega -- 3 stories
Kaidan Alenko/Male Shepard/James Vega -- 3 stories
Female Shepard/Garrus Vakarian/Tali’Zorah -- 2 stories
Kaidan Alenko/Female Shepard/Ashley Williams -- 2 stories
Two categories where only trilogy ships showed up. Kaidan dominated the multi stories, with Vega hot on his heels.
Other
Female Ryder/SAM -- 2 stories
Peebee/Tentacle Monster -- 1 story
Andromeda, meanwhile, got it’s “other” game on.
Characters
Shepards and Ryders
Female Shepard -- 46 stories
Female Ryder -- 38 stories
Male Shepard -- 7 stories
Male Ryder -- 5 stories
Nothing too surprising here. The gap between female and male protagonists existed right from the beginning, and Trilogy stories edged out Andromeda ones overall as well.
Trilogy Characters
James Vega -- 18 stories
Ashley Williams -- 14 stories
Zaeed Massani -- 12 stories
Kaidan Alenko -- 12 stories
Garrus Vakarian -- 11 stories
Vega takes the top spot easily, his popularity spread out among several different ships. It’ll be interesting to see how he does next year with FShega disqualified as being too popular. For this year, if you remove FShega, Vega drops to a tie for 4th with Garrus.
Zaeed is another character whose popularity was spread out over a bunch of different ships. Despite being in the top 5, Garrus ultimately comes out as an underperformer, with about half of the requests for him going unfilled.
Andromeda Characters
Sloane Kelly -- 11 stories
Tiran Kandros -- 10 stories
Harry Carlyle -- 8 stories
Kaetus -- 6 stories
Evfra de Tershaav -- 5 stories
In contrast to the trilogy, Sloane is the only character whose popularity really comes from multiple ships. Harry had one story with MRyder instead of FRyder, while all of Kandros and Evfra’s stories come from being paired with FRyder. Kaetus also had a single source (Sloane/Kaetus).
The underperformers
Garrus, Tali, Joker, Liam, Vetra, and Avitus Rix all had among the highest offers and requests for the Trilogy and Andromeda (respectively) but had serious underperformance when it came to stories written.
Characters with at least one offer/request and no fic were: Benezia, Legion, EDI, Kelly, Grunt, and Morinth.
Liam/Jaal was the highest requested ship (4 requests) that got no fic. Ships that had 3 requests and zero fic: Turian Vortex Poet/Girl He Left Behind and Female Ryder/Liam/Jaal.
Macen/Avitus had 7 requests and 7 offers but only one fic.
Since this post is already long enough, the list of ships that had no fic is underneath the cut.
Liam/Jaal, Turian Vortex Poet/Girl He Left Behind, Female Ryder/Liam/Jaal, Aethyta/Benezia, FemShep/EDI, Jack/Miranda, Morinth/FemShep, FemShep & Grunt, Jack/Vega, Kaidan/Miranda, Reyes/FemShep, Eve/Wrex, Zaeed/Samara, Avitus Rix/Male Ryder, Steve Cortez/MShep, Kaidan/FemShep/Garrus, Legion/FemShep, Legion/Tali
Ashley/Tali, Cora/Sarissa Theris, Female Turian Vortex Dancer/Female Human Vortex Dancer, Kasumi/Vetra, Kelly/FemShep, Kelly/Traynor, Liara/Tali, Miranda/Liara, Nyreen/Vetra, Peebee/Kalinda, Peebee/Lexi, Traynor/Tali, Samara/FemShep, Suvi/Cora, Tevos/Aria, Vetra/Kesh, Anderson & Hackett, Grunt & Jack, Nyreen & Liselle, Urz & Eezo
Ann Bryson/Hackett, Bailey/FemShep, Avela Kjar/Jaal, FemShep/Mordin, FemShep/Hackett, Feron/Liara, Gianna Parasini/Lorik Qui’in, Grunt/Miranda, Vega/Ashley, Javik/Samara, Joker/Ashley, Kaetus/Female Ryder, Kasumi/Rolan Quarn, Kasumi/Thane, Kian Dagher/Female Ryder, Liam/Vetra, Male Shepard/Tali, Reyes/Aria, Rorik/Ljeta, Oraka/Sha’ira, Vetra/Reyes, Zaeed/Aria, Zaeed/Castle Arcade Asari
Bain/Male Ryder, Garrus/Reyes, Gil/Reyes, Jaal/Evfra, Kaidan/Vega, Kirrahe/Mordin, Kolyat Krios/Mouse, Drack/Wrex, Nihlus/Garrus, Cortez/Joker, Cortez/Robert, EDI/Joker/FemShep, FemShep/Garrus/Victus, Jaal/Peebee/Female Ryder, Peebee/Kalinda/Female Ryder, Saren/Nihlus/Garrus, Harbinger/FemShep, Vetra/Tentacle Monster All this data put together by the amazing @keita52. <3
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@t-vos, @inglorious-boshtet
I found this quote on like pg 29 of Mass Effect: Retribution
“But it was rare [Aria] had to face the death of one of her own offspring.”
So it does seem grammatically implied that she may have other children, possibly ones who died before. This might be another situation where we have to pick and choose canon because these are also the same books filled with inconsistencies such as “the T’Loak family” (??????), having the asari councilor say “Oh my God” suggesting that she’s a human theology convert, and Aria becoming aware of Cerberus being Liselle’s killers but then she goes on to let their crap onto Omega like nothing even happened. The lore police has little jurisdiction in the no-man’s-land of Mass Effect books, I think... An unjust arrest perhaps has been made, @t-vos lmao
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my liselle t’loak obsession is taking over again
what if liselle lived and fled to the citadel in me3
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@tali-zorah-vas-normandyrp // Quarian
Rage boiled just beneath a carefully curated exterior of indifference. Only her oldest and most trusted of guards knew Aria T’Loak was two seconds from snapping someone’s neck. And as such, each of them stood stiff-backed at their posts around her private upper landing in Afterlife. Not a single one moved as the female quarian was brought before the de facto ruler of Omega.
Aria scanned the datapad in her hand for the third time that evening, combing through lines of code that apparently this quarian woman had used to hack into her systems. She still hadn’t decyphered how it had gotten past her layered, randomized firewalls. Or even what information it had managed to extrapolate before her own team of hackers had dismantled it. Her molars ached with how hard she was clenching them together.
Someone had gotten disturbingly close to Liselle’s identity. This was unacceptable.
Aria deactivated the datapad, tossing it haphazardly to the side on her couch as she turned her pale blue eyes to the quarian. “Let me make myself perfectly clear,” she began, clasping her hands in her lap. “You have one chance of walking out of Afterlife alive, and that chance depends on how willing you are to answer my questions.”
She narrowed her eyes, silently cursing the tinted visor of the quarian’s enviro-suit that hid any facial ticks she could recognize. Quarians were much easier to work with before the Geth, she lamented.
“What were you looking for?”
#tali-zorah-vas-normandyrp#threads: tali-zorah-vas-normandyrp 001#I think I'm going to employ violence (ic)#I am Omega (ME2)#// hope this works for you friend!#// lemme know if you'd like any edits
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This is pretty much what Liselle looks like in my headcanon, except she is the asari version of that, with blue skin and a scalp crest. And grey blue eyes like her mother’s.
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