#lily orchard defender

[liquidorcard]

For anyone still saying "oh Lily is a leftist tho," heed my fucking words and take what happened last night as proof you're wrong. You're falling for stupid tricks.

Leftist can be sexist. Leftists can be transphobic. Don't misunderstand me.

Lily realized that suddenly bringing up like, some random other trans guy and accusing me and Crim of being the same person, then acknowledging we're not, calling us both sociopaths-- kinda a bad look, in the game she's playing. She had to walk it back somehow-- assure he audience it can't possibly be she's the bigot. We're just MEN you see. Let me just bust out some TERF logic real quick to show you.

Lily, this isn't a game you should be playing. It's dangerous for you and other trans women. Anyone with any actual understanding with how systemic oppression fuels patriarchal sentiment of who's gender is valid and who's isn't can tell you where this road leads.

The obvious shitty, fucked up rebuttal I could make to this is I was a woman longer than you've been sweaty.

[andychaosblog]

Lily Orchard detractors: *Makes up crimes to get a Trans woman thrown in prison*

Me, and @risu-risa: *Banging our heads against a brick wall*

Me: WHY. WON'T. THIS. SHIT. END.

[sugarbombd]

This is all I’m going to say about this but…

This is very telling.

[theespeakerboxxx]

i didnt wanna put any effort into this but if you missed the curly b/sneaky taffer the SCHOOL TEACHER saga, this is the abridged version meme i traced under the cut

[chemtrailactivist]

it is legitimately impressive seeing the amount of denial lily defenders are snorting

[mrwilliewonka]

Lily Orchard: "SU is garbage!" SU: "Who is garbage?"

[cinnamons1999]

[carouselunique]

Is it true that there's no animosity between you and... you know, you know who. You never talk about her in any way. I guess I'm curious. You guys seemed like really close friends and then just weren't friends at all. And there was some stuff she said that seemed very targeted at you...

I don't know if she feels any animosity toward me or not any more. Our mutual friends have said she doesn't and I take them on their word in that regard, assuming that if they have an answer for me it's because they're aware how she feels. I wouldn't know and it's not my place to put words in her mouth.

I haven't spoken to her/about her in a long time and the only time she even crosses my mind is when people bring her up to me. As for me feeling any animosity? I'll admit my feelings on her these days are complicated and way too nuance-core for people who aren't my friends to hear about but I wouldn't call them animosity in any way. I inherently want people my friends care about to live well because I care about my friends, and anyone my friends care about by proxy and I still share friends with her. I would never wish ill on people my friends care about so animosity doesn't fit into that by definition. I'd say I'm hurt more than anything and even then I've worked through a lot of it with trusted friends who have helped me deal with my emotions in a healthy way.

(Besides, my own life struggles keep me from even being able to invest time into animosity. I have to expend that energy loving my family, doing my best to support them during our struggles. And I've never been a hateful person it isn't in me. I would rather play 'Hot To Go' by Chappell Roan and teach my dad how to do the hand gestures to help him strengthen his muscles again than focus on hating anyone...)

I try not to think about her because it hurts. I often think that people forget that I'm a real person outside of her sphere, and that I wouldn't want to talk about what happened because I truly did consider her a friend for a long time. And when someone I consider a friend appears to not regard me with care any more suddenly and I don't even have closure on that... well... it hurts... A lot. Of course I never talk about it.

And I'm not stupid, I have seen some stuff she's said that I've gathered was about me. I remind myself that she has a right to vent in her own spaces and I truly mean that... it's just a shame that her own spaces have people who then have taken these things to me to show me (after all, I wouldn't have even seen these things myself if not for third-party anons going 'this u?') saying it is my own fault because I was a terribly cruel friend or my own fault for not listening to warnings about her when I had the chance and that makes me a stupid gullible bitch. You lot haven't seen some of the awful shit about me from some of her more ravenous fans and haters I've seen over the years that I've had to let roll off my back in the fear it would bring backlash - not even to me, to her. I don't want to be the cause of any hatred going to anyone.

Also I'm just not going to ever talk about the details of our fallen friendship or our fallen relationship. That's private. She might be a public person to some extent but I never was, even if I do gain some measure of small fandom for my work one day I'm just private about personal matters especially raw ones. I almost deleted this ask entirely but Idk I never stated that it bothers me when people talk to me about her from my own mouth, so I guess that's what this ramble is.

If you send me anything about Lily Orchard it will not be addressed. I am not a part of her life not even through our mutual friends. I do not know or care what's going on with her public/personal life. I haven't kept up. I will never keep up. Don't treat me as an extension of the situation because I am not in the situation. In the most plainly stated sense of the word: Leave me the Hell alone. (...pretty please.)

All I've wanted this entire time was to be left alone to process everything in a healthy, peaceful way. I'm workin' on it.

[futzfuck]

I find it so fucking hilarious that lily orchard calls people bigots for saying her content is bad when the content itself HEAVILY evokes that era of edgy “anti-SJW” criticism. Like i was watching her content and mf E;R at the same time. Like, they guy who defined gender as “what your brain believes your sex is”.

Now, im not gonna claim that lily is a bigot just because her content reminds me of a different edgy youtuber (shes a bigot bc she misgenders ppl she doesn’t like and uses more slurs than a drunk sailor), but i grew out of both of their content for the same reason: it’s boring and i never feel like i learn anything. Like i love the YMS Lion King live action review bc bro does his research and i learn more about how film works as a result, as well as music. He can get angry and frustrated at the work itself but the layers of why its bad are always explained in a way that’s inherently informative. Shit like lily orchard and E;R feel more like a public stoning than any kind of dissection or critique. Its blunt and unrefined, and the only thing i take from it is that you don’t like this piece of media, so its bad? But if you point out that the critiques are shallow you’re suddenly a bigot or “triggered”. As someone who writes and makes art themselves i don’t find that compelling at all, nor do i think that content should be revered. I often rewatch reviews from people like YMS, Hbomberguy, Lindsey Ellis, Folding Ideas, etc. because they hold up well and i love relearning or relistening to the narrative of their criticism. I tried to rewatch stuff from Lily when i was 15 and quit halfway through. Even short clips i see of her content now make me more and more proud of 15 year old me for realizing, even if only bc it was boring to me at the time, that her content just wasn’t for me. Im glad i was able to find media criticism that taught me more about stories and makes my own writing stronger for it.

[liquidorcard]

You should remember to eat some soup if you’re sick (in all seriousness this accounts fucking hilarious, keep up the good work OP)

[andychaosblog]

To anyone framing Lily Orchard for crimes she hasn't committed/Being a colossal transphobe to her, and her wife:

Wipe your ass with Porcupine quills.

That are on fire.

With a sharp knife.

[britts-galaxy-brain]

The sheer amount of people who are willing to outright defend sexual predators against their fucking victims have me wondering why I even bother.

People like Lily Orchard, Poppy Diabolique, and Patricia Taxxon continue to get away with grooming and abusing others BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE DEFEND AND EMBOLDEN THEM!

You gonna go to bat for Onision next?! How about Hypnotist Sappho?? Or Kero?? What other sick fucks are yall gonna jump in front of consequences for next?! Because I don't see yall giving near as much shit to the people who keep tabs on them!

[thewickedlorchqueen]

As a outsider of sorts to the whole Lily sphere (I was never a fan, nor one of her victims. I only knew about her thanks to other commentators) It's weird how I can agree with her and disagree at the same time. Case in point I hate She-ra and the princesses of power (I'm just going top keep it simple and say it's not for me and I prefer the og) and I despise catradora (I truly wish Adora had won or or knocked out Catra's smug ass at least once) as I also think it's an abusive ship. Yet listening to Lily talk about it, I want to defend the ship. She's so condescending and pulls shit out of her ass (catradora is insest!! Sure babe.) That any point she makes falls flat.

[opinated-user]

Stop harsssing me

said the child rapist that i haven't even talked about lately and whose only contact with me was the one she initiated. that also urgently needs a bath because it stink up my entire askbox.

[chemtrailactivist]

lily is vagueposting about one of my posts, I’ve hit the big leagues ma!

[as8bakwthesage]

Lily Orchard's fans are vile cunts too

Take that vulnerability horseshit and shove it up your fucking ass, you piece of shit. Go on and fucking side with the goddamn molestor. This isn't about fucking cartoons.

Fuck. You.