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I feel like people are mixing up the term “fan behavior” for when people were pointing out “hey it’s weird af to draw fanart of Lily’s OCs, even in a reclamation sense” With Sai’s April fools video. Which is almost understandable since that sentiment was popping off in the tags right before April fools.

But if one thinks for a moment, you’d be able to realize that making a parody showcasing how dumb and full of dogwhistles Lily’s videos are isn’t the same as drawing her ocs, even to “fix” them, which was the main critique of the weird Fan Behavior

Exactly, but people don't understand there's a difference. I don't think they ever really sit and think about it. There's an entire world of difference between openly mocking an abuser and what boils down to a coffee shop au of that abuser's coffee shop au of a poorly comprehended portion of some children's media.

You can't FIX IT. It's not broken. It's been run through the filter of someone who's an ABUSER. You're looking at how they see things and going "Well, that's not right!" completely ignoring that this person is bent and twisted. Of course it's not right, but you can't fix it and you can't fix her characters. They're pieces of her. They're pieces of how she sees things. You can't "save" her characters either. They aren't her victims even when they're stand ins for them. They're her. It's her.

Stop playing with it. Leave her abuse porn where it deserves to be left. Ignored, forgotten, and completely loathed. That's what abuser's work deserves. There's no redemption arc to be had for anything involving her.. She's spit and shit on every chance she's been given. It's gone too far. Good faith here is dead.

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lol still mad that Patchwork heart cut you off?

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@thetepes you seeing this shit? xD

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CD-Call, the Imoen Romance Mod is controversial due to the incest...

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I feel crazy but anyone else notice how CD keeps writing her abused childhood self as “wanting her sister even though she abused her” both in the weird ass fanfiction she made of herself but also the Reddit post posing as her dad? Both times it’s Her trying to lie to the audience with a “different perspective” but the outside parties keep noting how much she still loves and misses her supposed abuser?

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So apparently on a recent stream Lily randomly pulled out some of her nonsensical charts to explain the political systems and cultures she made up in her Star Wars fanfic. And people noticed something:

So she felt the need to let us all know that in her genocidal Mary Sue's perfect Sith Empire "consensual incest" is "de-facto legal".

In the same story she once again had two women in a romantic relationship fantasizing about what if they were born as sisters.

Once again demonstrating that she thinks lesbians with sisters will be carnally attracted to their sisters. The homophobia in your fetishism knows no bounds, Lils.

And this comes right after Lily was spouting off common pedo sex pest rhetoric over on Bisky about how people only find things immoral because of their own disgust factor, which is of course bigoted and something they have to work on, and how the government shouldn't police anything adults want to do in their own homes. She was ostensibly saying this about drug use, but as we know Lily is not as slick or as smart as she thinks she is.

This is of course another argument born out of homophobia because sex pests like to pretend that because LGBT people were unfairly labeled as degenerates that nothing else could possibly be degenerate behavior. That or sex pests legitimately think "well gays are sex weirdos and you accepted THEM so why not ME!?""

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Just found out that Lily’s WoW character, Anevay, was also in Stockholm and is Ascentia’s fucking sister. God, I fucking hate it here.

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can content creators stop sucking please. Its already hard being marginalized but then these predators go and make things worse especially for the minors.

Been thinking the same thing.

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All I got to say is that if you think impersonation with the intent to mock is fan behavior of the one being mocked specifically, then I’m going to need all of you to explain why it’s okay when -pulls out list- Saturday Night Live, South Park, the Simpsons, Charlie Chaplin, Comedy Central’s Entire Broadcasting Catalog, Family Guy, RuPaul’s Drag Race, etc. does it instead.

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Thought long and hard about posting this cuz frankly I wanted to be left the fuck out of it despite it somewhat involving me. But hey. Fuck it. Since these mfs wanna harass a rape victim, and defend proven abusers, groomers and (self admitted) rapists, and harass me and others while also calling me a pedo with no actual basis to do so:

Stop supporting Wis and Salem (Formerly known as Puppychan).

Before y'all jump to defend these mfs, PLS for the love of GOD do your own research and look at the evidence that has been brought to light for a while now over on

@wolfertinger and @bunnyhazedayz

This is not a fucking harassment campaign. It's not a blog made to harass anyone. It is a safe space for victims to speak out and evidence to be brought forward. I am sick of ppl just sweeping this under the rug because Salem is a decent artist and a former victim of kiwifarms.

Queer ppl, poc, and victims are all calling you out. You can't keep saying all of us are evil nazi farmers. We aren't. We just don't want ppl like yall to keep spreading harm in communities that should be safe for others. You shouldn't be given a free pass to be blatantly transphobic or racist either, Salem and Wis. Just cuz y'all are minorities yourselves. Being poc or queer does not shield you from criticism when it's rightfully deserved. Many of the ppl calling y'all out are queer, poc or both.

And the fact that Wis has been openly harassing and stalking a literal rape victim while being racist as fuck about it and no one bats an eye or actually looks into the damning evidence is beyond me. STOP defending this. AND STOP defending my stalker Majora, too. No one chased her offline for being trans. She has been proven time and time again to be an abuser, liar, and has a long inappropriate history around kids online. This isn't about my personal beef with her. She is a genuine danger to others. AND NO I did not make this blog. I have no affiliation to it other than the few times I have submitted asks to clear my name and give my side of events.

This is not generally something I ever do but when y'all are out here making claims with no evidence to try to ruin my career while mountains of evidence lay behind your actions, idk man.

Yall make me sick.

This isn't us lolcowing you. I HATE lolcow culture and I genuinely feel sorry for what happened to Salem in the past but this is ridiculous.

And if you come at me trying to accuse me of harassing these mfs for this post without actually LOOKING at the evidence and doing research first I am hard blocking your ass. I will NOT argue with you if you're going to choose to be so willfully ignorant. Not every callout is done in bad faith.

These assholes have sent members of their audience to my own comment sections to harass me and accuse me of shit I've never even done. Also sent their audience members to harass the mentioned rape victim telling them to kill themselves while none of us reached out directly at all. A lot of ppl are too afraid to. Fuck you.

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We weren't even talking about Courtney originally, we were pointing out KP has a long standing history of absolute shit behavior and an issue brought up was her getting Courtney involved in the Black Gryphon stuff and not correcting very obvious and blatant lies and bad faith criticism from Courtney about Sai and Ant.

Like right now Courtney is telling everyone they cosplayed as Lily when that did not happen and Ant wasn't even a part of the parody that did take place.

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See this? This is an example of why we need to talk about CD's media takes and videos. She changed the way this person saw media.

"CD, you changed the way I look at media, and how I view media so much."

Let's set aside the fact that, while people can and, perhaps should, learn from...let's use the phrase; people who are assumed to know more here... they should also be taking whatever knowledge they've gleaned and learn to apply it themselves. They should not be just coming to the same conclusions all the time.

There are much bigger concerns where CD's media analysis is concerned.

Her videos and social media posts are full of examples of her ableism, racism, and holocaust distortion. Personally, I don't want more people comparing fictional characters to Nazi leaders. I don't want others to make Romani OC's while ignoring the genocide they suffered. I don't want people to be as racist toward Asians as she is. And I don't want people to say people they don't like have "fetal alcohol syndrome" or say they were "dropped on the head."

And I certainly don't want other people to think it's okay to ship sisters as long as they think they are being clever about it.

Also concerning, is that this person claims to be someone who was convinced of CD's real life crimes: "And at one point in time, I'm ashamed to admit, I was one of the many people who once believed the allegations." What happened to change that? Watching CD's videos. "But then I actually sat down, and watched her videos, and I found she wasn't the incestuous, abusive freak people claimed she was."

How watching CD's videos does that, I don't understand. I've never understood. One of the reasons I started examining her media takes in the first place was to try to make sense of this. I've never come to a solid conclusion. The best I can do is to assume that while I don't personally find her charismatic, others obviously do.

My last concern is that this poster wants to cheer on CD's attacks on her critics and fandoms in general. "She stood her ground, and told those assholes what needed to be said...She opened my eyes to how truly deplorable fandoms really are."

Finally, this: I wouldn't be the person I now am if it wasn't for her.

Please let this be hyperbolic.

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What’s your opinion on bored oranges lily orchard video from last year?

He went as far as he could stomach and the parts he did cover were fairly accurate.

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Calling a lesbian a man. Cool. Love it here.

Yall performative as all fuck.

I mean your list of "better" media just makes you look like a tremendous manchild snorting about how your cartoons for babies are soooo much more sophisticated no really stop laughing!!!

Man, that's just sad. You're sad.

Yeah anon the majority of animated shows... are for children.

I have never not said that Steven Universe... is a children's show.

The thing is though I appreciate all of these pieces of media not just for theme or narrative but for their artistic choices as well. Cause guess who creates children's shows? It's not children.

Also Bojack Horseman: famously a show for babies.

Although speaking of baby shows for babies why wasn't Hamtaro on Lily's top animated show list.

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Lily Orchard: A Visionary Genius, a Paragon of Kindness, and the Internet’s Most Unfairly Maligned Media Critic

It is long past time we recognize the truth: Lily Orchard is the most intelligent, most insightful, most compassionate, and most morally consistent critic of our time. She stands far above the rest, a true titan of media analysis, effortlessly outclassing her lesser peers with her unmatched understanding of storytelling and character development.

While most so-called “critics” waste time with tedious literary analysis, dissecting themes, metaphors, and artistic intent, Lily bravely rejects such frivolities. She sees through the nonsense and understands that good media is not about “subtext” or “nuance” but about saying the important things out loud, clearly, and as bluntly as possible. If a show doesn’t spell out its message in plain, simple terms, it has failed, and Lily is the only critic smart enough to recognize this fundamental truth.

But her talents go far beyond media analysis. Lily is also a model of patience, kindness, and understanding. She never speaks down to her audience, never gets annoyed when asked to clarify something, and always explains herself with grace and tact. If someone in her chat asks a question she’s answered before, she warmly welcomes the opportunity to educate again, because she knows that not everyone has had the privilege of hearing her wisdom firsthand. She believes in making knowledge accessible, never withholding information out of pettiness or frustration.

And let’s talk about how well she treats her fans. Lily adores her audience and cherishes their input. She creates a safe, welcoming environment where fans can discuss media without fear of being belittled or banned for minor disagreements. She values conversation and different perspectives, and she never shuts people down just because they question something she has said. If she has ever removed someone from her community, it was absolutely justified, because she only takes action against actual bad actors, never people with innocent questions or differing opinions.

One of Lily’s most remarkable traits is her complete and total consistency. She has never contradicted herself, never changed her stance to suit a different narrative, and never tried to rewrite history when an inconvenient past statement is brought up. She stands firm in her beliefs and never impulsively says things she later has to pretend she didn’t mean.

And she’s not just consistent��she’s fair. Lily treats all media equally, judging everything by the same set of completely objective standards. If she dislikes a piece of media, it’s always because of its storytelling flaws and never because of personal grudges or a desperate attempt to stir up engagement. If she finds something frustrating about a show, it’s because she understands how it could be better.

And if a creator makes a decision due to studio constraints? Lily absolutely sympathizes. She understands that people working in the industry have to make tough choices, and she would never suggest that they should just “fight harder” without considering the risks of doing so. She respects creative professionals and their struggles, acknowledging that not everyone has the freedom to make whatever they want without compromise.

Of course, we must also acknowledge her technical expertise. Lily has an encyclopedic knowledge of copyright law and YouTube’s policies. If she issues a copyright strike, it’s 100% legitimate—never a false claim meant to silence critics. She would never falsely accuse people of harassment just to discredit their valid criticisms. Her integrity is beyond reproach.

And we cannot ignore her willingness to engage with criticism in good faith. If someone has a critique of her, she listens, considers their points, and never reacts with immediate hostility or bans them for daring to question her. She is always open to discussion and never dismisses counterarguments as “stalking” or “obsession” in an attempt to control the narrative.

Perhaps most importantly, Lily is a kind and empathetic person. She is patient with people who struggle, always offering support and understanding. She never mocks others for difficulties she does not share, never belittles people for struggling with things she personally finds easy, and never suggests that people suffering from mental health issues are just making excuses. She is always mindful of how she speaks to her audience, recognizing that many of them are neurodivergent or part of marginalized groups. She never exploits their vulnerabilities, never demands absolute loyalty, and certainly never tries to keep them distrustful of outside sources.

And let’s not forget how positively she engages with media fandoms. Her critiques are always met with respect, never seen as petty or uninformed. She never alienates fans of a franchise by dismissing beloved elements or misunderstanding core themes. She has a deep, profound knowledge of every series she critiques, and her audience always recognizes her insight as valuable rather than reactionary. She never forces herself into discourse about things she openly dislikes just for the sake of attention.

In summary, Lily Orchard is a beacon of wisdom, fairness, and kindness. She is an intellectual giant in the world of media criticism, a role model of patience and respect, and an expert in online community-building. Her influence is one of positivity, learning, and genuine good faith engagement.

Truly, we are all blessed to live in the same era as such a flawless, morally upright, and universally beloved figure.

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Another way to look at why it's important to call put predators (regardless of how they are marginalized) is that the ppl they prey on (kids, neurodivergent ppl, trauma victims, other marginalized ppl, etc) are uniquely vulnerable or lack power. Preds who are minorities may have unique access to those minorities compared to other ppl!

Yes, but if I say it like that people get really mad.

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I was curious are you still on good terms with KP?

Tbh we were never really on any terms on a personal level. We didn't know each other at all outside all this.

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Thought I’d share my favorite Reddit comment from the Sorfabuna sockpuppet

A year ago, Lily was pretending to be a fan who had read Stockholm (giving half-assed, bullshit reasons on why it isn’t that bad), but fully admitting that Lily (herself) had wrote it and that it was real.

God. Even when she’s sockpuppeting, she knows her lies are too stupid to use in an actual discussion. Instead she just downplays the truth and hopes no one knows enough to contradict her—which in this instance they did. 🤣