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tell me about your favorite motifs to use for characters
#tropes#oc#writeblr#tag your oc#tag game#mine's astronomical designs for visuals/names & fairytale/twisted fairytale for character arcs#esp subversions of expected fairytale conventions--the princess is the villain; the love interest says 'nah;' etc#for ex. amelia is in some ways a little mermaid-esque character but realizes her 'prince' is only going to hurt her#and has to use her wits to get out of the 'land' before she's done for#also i tend to draw her with star accessories as a reference to her earliest design#oc tag#oc amelia#beg borrow or steal#like it's not a huge motif but a subtle one that i come back to from time to time
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Vaggie Redesignš¦
Made my own version of Vaggie for fun! Out of everyone so far, redesigning her was the funnest to play around with. There was a lot to consider!!! Spoiler alert for those who havenāt watched the show!
One big thing I had to consider about was her moth motifš¦. I redesigned her hair to be more moth like, the type that have eye patterns like the emperor moth! I think itās super cool but alsoā¦Angels and Eyesšļø(I can imagine the eyes react with her main one) Plus Eyes in general have always been a big motif for her. I also made her feet more stubby, to give off how they were changed becoming a sinner. I def wanted to give off her coming off as unintentionally unsettling as moths can be lowkey scary lol, but also show a struggle of hers is being more down to earth and approachable to others.
Made her hair SUPER longer for the patterns but also give off how if makes up a lot of her, moths got big wings. I read sinners forms have a sorta punishment to them and I imagine for Vaggie, her hair canāt be cut. It can but it would grow back to the same length soon. So itās def been a struggle for her along with her new feet to figure out how to deal with, especially for combat. Also replaced the bow with actual antennae and made her eyebrows have more hair too! At first I was gonna add the bow to show her using it some way to put up her hair but with how big it is and adding antennae I just got rid of it, making those allude to a bow instead š
For my HH Gang, Iām going for a Rainbow Motif(I think we all know why), for Vaggie sheās more Indigo. Blue(color close to Heaven) but also a little mix of Red(Charlie & Hell). Also has a lot of different symbolisms that I think work well for Vaggie!!!!!!! And in her old looks she had a lot of blues(many such as navy blue belong in the indigo territory) that I decided to re-incorporate into her look. Sheās the blue to Charlieās Redā¤ļøšAlso has a dark purplish red to show the uniforms sheās wearing is older but still connect her to the Hotel and Charlieā¤ļøš.
Made her skin more purplish. I can imagineā¦.back then it used to be gray or grayish blue but time in Hell added more colorššššš
ANOTHER really big thing was her fashion. For my Vaggie, sheās basically wearing an old Bellhop uniform from the Hotelās past(moths may have done some damage prior, lol) hence the tatters, she likes it as it shows sheās part of the Hotel and protective enough but also not too stuffy to stop her from being active. I def was leaning into her being the Hotelās security. Sheās also wearing straps for putting her spear away, a hooded shawl, which I was inspired from one of her concept looks with ripped tights and boots. Def kept the long fingerless gloves with some protective wrap!!!!!!!!!
Sheās also wearing a golden apple(HUGE motif with Charlieš) and also a huge symbol shown a lot through the hotel to show sheās part of it!ā¦also added more hidden ā symbols.
I was def leaning towards business/subtle military/action girl for her. Talked about this with @a-sterling-rose that during development, she plays around with her look more, finding her identity more. I also wanted to give off a little mystery with the cloak. Show sheās someone with secretsā¦like being a former Top Exorcist. I REALLY WANT HER TO GET HER OWN PAIR OF ANGELIC BALLET SHOES FROM CAMILLE!!!!!š©°š©°š©°š©°š©°š©°
Gave her bigger lips š
Made her X sharper, make it look more wing like. Made her lashes more wing like tooš¦
Put more weight & muscle on heršŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖ show sheās got muscle and fun fact, moths got stout builds!!!!!!
Also redesigned her staff a bit to look more Eye like and added a wrap for grip(and that it may have been broken in the past).
Gave her a line under her eye, show sheās someone who works herself too hard ant timeā¦ and also give off sheās bit on edge about somethingā¦
Also I know thereās been discussions about her name, just wanted to say, if I was to change her name, Iād make it Polilla! Spanish for Mothš¦ I like the idea of exorcists being once humans who became Angels! So Vaggieās def still got her Salvadoran roots! šøš» I can imagine she HATES when people call her āPollyā for short.
Also done designs for Charlie & Angelšš·ļø
What do u think? Iād love to know!š
#Hazbin hotel#vaggie#vaggie redesign#hazbin hotel redesign#hazbin hotel redesigns#hh redesign#hh redesigns#my art#my redesigns#hazbin vaggie#vaggie fanart#Hazbin hotel fanart#hazbinhotel#hellaverse#Hazbin hotel vaggie#Vaggie redesign#vaggie hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel rewrite
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QUIET ON THE OLD FRONTIER (excerpt from THE THRILLING AND NOT AT ALL REPETITIVE ADVENTURES OF CAPTAIN MAN AND KID DANGER: āA CHRONOLOGY OF ENTIRELY TRUE AND HEROIC EVENTS COINCIDING WITH THE END OF HISTORYā) [1] [2] [3] [4]
Well, you know how it goes down in Hollywood: the sun never sinks on the West Coast, and no one can ever die for real.
[ Henryās expression is frozen, part acceptance, part trepidation. A stallion stands in the forefront of the second panel, backlit by the stretch of desert and a yellow sun. The horseās front leg is dotted with red; below, Ray is mid-grin with his arms outstretched, hands cut out of frame. The horse, mid-motion, flees toward the horizon. It wonāt make it. ]
āI just canāt quit you,ā is the kind of thing he would say, big hands outstretched to clasp the back of his neck or to fit over Henryās windpipe like a noose. Itād be a bit, with a Southern drawl and eyes not quite meeting his, but there would be just enough substance that Henry could pause and think, Well. Maybe you should.
Somewhere underneath that ego is a person capable of letting go, of cutting their losses. Henryās seen the Old Westerns in their grainy film and open desert, and knows the kind of look good men get in their eye when their horse buckles. Itās the same guarded expression he wore when Drex came barreling back in, looking like Henry might in a few years timeāangry, bitter, and stuck in the same place after all those years. Drex came back on his own, but still holding the old reins. Maybe thatās a difference between Ray and the good man; when Henry breaks his leg, he gets benched and pulled from the field. Heāll be back out again the moment his femur mends because he wonāt see the break for the escape it could be. A fracture is never just a fracture, and a boy is never just a boy.
A horse with a bum leg gets taken into the field. It canāt return because it never leaves. Oh, well. It was a good beast, a good ride while it lasted.
PANEL NOTES:
The first chapter of the fic ābite your tongueā by ao3 user irregularsatanist (slavishtrust) motivated this significantly, although this is not explicitly lifted. I am obsessed with their mind! Every time I read and reread, my fingers get the itch to storyboard. Much to say, and more to come, surely. (Iām actually being so, so, so serious, the levity of their work is what incepted me into this hyperfixation and every version of the characters I have in my head is inadvertently colored by the blueprint of trauma, codependency, and exploitation in the aftermath of young adulthood that their continuity of portrayal has lain out. Iām not kidding Iām being so real about this rn)
Something about the Wild West motif is just really, really compelling to me: empty space, inherent isolation, man in nature, evocative of incoming change sweeping into the country and devastating those that lived before and in the now and yet still feeling stagnant in the hugeness of the land, and the kind of vulnerability that the wilderness digs out of you. There is no difference between the civilized and the uncivilized here. I donāt think Iām super subtle about it.
There is an anonymous mark on Henryās neck in the top panel. It could be blood, a bruise, dirt or dust, inflicted or coincidental, etc.
Three instances of hands, or hands in omission: Rayās hand gripping Henry, the implication of his hands extended outward/upward, and the hand holding the gun in the bottom right panel. In the former and latter, they are highlighted with yellow lines.
Henry does not reach back for Ray, but he doesnāt retreat, either.
Henry and Rayās respective paneling colors differ.
The horse represents freedom & captivity, cyclical tenancies, dehumanization, and escape into the natural.
Here, Henry may even identify with the gun itself. Rayās hand over his face + neck mirrors the grip over the firearm, and the line where flesh meets object (or, in this case, Henry) is highlighted by the same line work.
The horse envisioned is a wild one that was groomed into captivity and subsequently domesticated. In most āhorseā narratives, the struggle culminates in the question of freedomāor return to natureāas opposed to the human need to keep. By allowing a creature of nature, which was not born into civilization but rather introduced into it, to return to its motherland is a humanist act and therefore a rejection of corporate or urban conformity. The horse exists as an objectified commodity, one to be used or paraded. To relinquish the horse demonstrates more than love, arguably something more important: respect. To respect nature is to relinquish the grip of expansion.
I feel like this is the moment when Henry returns and they both reunite with one another after a period of time. Rayās expression, while still ambiguous, is much easier to parse than Henryās. Henry, of course, considers himself the defective horse, and weighs the three possible routes: escape (back) into the wild, to be taken into a field and shot (real Old Yeller style), or to be ridden again. Each carries their own merit and implication of autonomy.
The reality of each unfolding is still dependent on Ray: if he lets him go, if he decides Henry must be discarded, if he utilizes him stillāor, if he is defective at all.
Rayās problem isnāt that heāll be tempted to shoot the horse, but instead that he wouldnāt. The good man takes the creature out of its misery if he canāt heal, house, and release it. This guy would rather have a bloody horse in his house until the end of time than admit he shouldnāt have had it in the first place. From Rayās perspective, the reunion is best characterized as the return of the prodigal son. To Henry, this is more of an ego death in slow motion.
Ego Death: āThe disappearance of an individualās sense of self, or the removal of oneās perception of oneself as an entity separate from oneās social or physical environment.ā (Britannica)
Prodigal Son: āā¦a man or boy who has left his family in order to do something that the family disapprove of and has now returned home feeling sorry for what he has done.ā (Cambridge Dictionary)
The chapter title, āQUIET ON THE OLD FRONTIERā is a reference to All Quiet on the Western Front, the English title of Erich Maria Remarqueās 1929 novel about the traumatic aftermath of World War I. The term, āall quiet on the Western Frontā is a colloquialism referring to a lack of progress, or stagnation. āFrontā is interchanged with āfrontierā, Americanizing the phrase to refer to the Old West and settlement. California, on the Western Coast of the U.S., is assumed to be in close proximity with the location of the narrative.
Of course, āI just canāt quit youā is the iconic dialogue between cowboys Jack and Ennis in Brokeback Mountain (2005), the epitome of the modern Western movie (based on a novel of the same name). Here, the context is not exactly the same, but still (uncomfortably) adjacent. Sometimes, quitting is good. It can help you grow up big and strong.
#henry danger#henry hart#ray manchester#henray#dangerverse#kid danger#captain man#i stg i was not a horse girl however i had a healthy appreciation for the genre#really this is more about my poorly disguised fascination with cowboys and the self regulation of restraint even in open field#what we want to be and what we believe we are made for follows us into the wilderness like a root we cant pull out#and thats the downfall of man#this isnt so much about codependency as it is ingrained return to the place where we were domesticaticed. symbolically neutered but also#cared for washed and fed. thats why abandoning our animals that once had wildness is the ultimate mercy despite the difficulty of#seperation bc preserving that wildness that truth is kinder and more respectful than pretending it can be bred out in less than a generatio#my art#the red I used here was very warm and muted so in the process it looked burgundy but by the end itās a little desaturated. oh well ummm#I stg the next one of these is going to be either Jasper or Piper. I need colors other than red blue and yellow
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okayyyyy i caved and watched one (1) cutscene from the sh2 remake. because my fanfic follows from the jail scene and i wanted to see what was different. it's so interesting!!! how the most tiny subtle things make huge differences!!!
first of all i like james's voice acting so much - it trades the off-putting stilted sound of his dialogue in the og for something more real and natural. both are valid ways to go about it i think. it's just cool how we get more insight into his emotional state here imo
changing maria's line at the end there from "Come and get me. I canāt do anything through these bars" to "Well, if you happen to make up your mindā¦ I'll be waiting" .... does not work for me. i think part of what's so fun/creepy about the og jail scene is how maria is actively presuming james has an interest in her, or is at least acting like she knows james wants her. as far as james goes, his own feelings on the matter are pretty hard to decipher, so i just love the idea of maria taking things into her own hands and going "you want me. come get me." changing it to "if you happen to make up your mind" gives james too much leeway to reject her, even if the connotation is still clear.
(also, her being presumptuous here is a great parallel to angela's similar presumptions after the abstract daddy fight, but idk how/if the remake changed that cutscene, so i can't comment on whether that parallel stays intact)
also, fascinating decision to give us a close-up of james's face as he deliberates on whether or not he does want to touch her. again, it loses some of the ambiguity of the original, in which james's face is entirely out of frame for that whole segment. it really does feel like he's being tempted...
oh and i liked how they added james going "i'll come back, i promise." the promise motif... :)
#i do have to wait to play the remake. first of all because it's too damn expensive and i need it to go on sale#but also. could i survive it emotionally rn. idk#just watching one cutscene i was like strangling my gator plushie out of excitement#the worms are in my brain!!!!!#silent hill#silent hill 2#analysis#my post
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Day 3: Duetto of Duelist and Spirit
@arcvmonth
Hello there, apologies if I've bothered anyone with my previous prompt, I'm bad at Tumblr. But I've learned.
But enough of that, let's move on to my main star! This'll be an analysis post o my favorite Monster, and I don't think there's really any other choice in my case.
The one bringing the power of flower and the strong in the song! Angel's song and supreme genius as one!
Bloom Diva the Melodious Choir!
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So, Bloom Diva... She's a fascinating one for sure. So well designed, so deceptively powerful (in the anime at least, powercreep's a bish), yet pretty much the embodiment of the Melodious archetype's biggest thematic shortcoming.
Quite a daunting intro for sure... But it wouldn't be an analysis if I didn't include everything. So... Let's get through listening to her song fully, piece by piece, verse by verse.
Verse 0: Setting the script (history)
I'll have to confess right away... I haven't played with her that much. Historically, the times I've played YGO were before ARC-V was a thing. I had left YGO as my circle of friends all stopped playing, and that was with Duelist Alliance. So only when Aria, Sonata and Mozarta were available.
I only discovered Bloom Diva in 2022, when I came back to YGO via Master Duel. And I gotta say, I was particularly hooked with her, but not immediately. Also I haven't played her much, because trying to play Melodious past gold in MD is pain.
The REAL kicker was when I watched her work in the Anime as she devastated pretty much everyone she came across (including Yuzu herself). But I think I'll hold off on it for now.
Verse 1: Costuming for the Concert (Design)
She's super cute, first and foremost. I'll admit that I have a soft spot for gentle looking girls and classical music. The Melodious definitely piqued my interest back in the day for those two things alone. But Bloom Diva's... Particular.
In general, there's a shift in design with the Melodious Monsters. They've changed from exotic, weirdly colored fairies with the maestras having whole eyes and wholly classical looks, to more human looking chorus girls, with various normal skin tones, and Bloom Harmonist was the extreme... Vanilla side of things.
Bloom Diva is peak exotic here. While she is of fair skin, the three pronged silver hair, and the lines on her shoulders, arms, and under her eyes do give off a more mystical vibe to the design. Like... What other musical motifs are on her body? There are some examples out there such as a small pentagram on Aria's right knee. Yet it's a thing no one really knows (especially because fanart of her is pretty much all her wearing her usual dress. Well, all that isn't my commissions AFAIK) Her whole eyes are also full of life, but have the potential to be quite creepy actually, and it's a really quirky detail which I enjoy in a design. Both of these details also belong to Mozarta, and suddenly having a Maestra as required material makes sense.
The musical themes on her designs are somewhat subtle, but still stand out. Those are the two symmetrical hairpins that resemble treble clefs, and pentagram lines both on her arms and on her huge, floating veil that could give Reiji's scarf a run for its money.
However, the flower themes on her design are quite strong. She is "Bloom Diva", after all, so there are various kinds of them! Yellow flowers as her earrings, second necklace and bracelets (6th bracelet girl?), and these are made of petals which, bonus, scatter all over the Field due to Bloom Diva controlling the wind around her at all times. A less noticeable flower theme would also be her dress. A two-layered white and azure dress which resembles a campanula, actually! But of course, we can't overlook the flower stage. A lotus flower which emphasizes the bloom theme excellently as her entrance as her bloom on the stage! Also she's the only Melodious Monster who comes with her own stage, so that's fun. It's clear quite a bit of effort went into this design, and I'd personally rank it S tier were it to be a tier list or something, I dunno.
Verse 2: Taking the Stage (gameplay)
Bloom Diva had been dubbed as "Yubel 2.0" when she first debued. Then again, her anime effect is purely destroying any Special Summoned Monster that battled her and reflecting battle damage, and making her indestructible by battle when you activate the effect. The anime Bloom Diva could be destroyed by any Card Effect or any Normal Summon just fine.
Now, let's get on to the OCG effect, which is... Quite weird.
Can't be destroyed at all and you take no battle damage from her battles, so more defensively viable for sure. But instead of reflecting battle damage, she burns for the difference between the battling monsters' original ATK, and IF she does, the Monster's destroyed.
This... Creates some interesting differences.
The Bloom Diva in the OCG is generally more solid and consistent. However, there's a few things she suddenly got worse at compared to the anime.
First and foremost, how you Summon her. The non generic Melodious material was changed... From Songstress to Maestra. This means that the bricky Maestras are needed as Fusion Material, but at least Ostinato makes things easier, even if Summoning Bloom Diva with it isn't the best option unless you are in Duel Links.
Second, how her damage works. The fact of it being consistent burn damage instead of reflected battle damage means that any modifiers that don't modify the ORIGINAL ATK of either Monster simply won't matter, INCLUDING TAMTAM! Tamtam is designed to work perfectly with Bloom Diva, lowering her ATK to deal more damage. In the anime, that works just fine. In the OCG, it doesn't. (Though Pianissimo actually works with her. Still, it's kinda redundant making her indestructible when she already is!)
Then just nitpicks in general because of the environment around her. Mostly, the other Melodious Monsters, who in the anime... Suck overall. COMPARED to the OCG version. In the actual game, making Bloom Diva is redundant unless you are facing an enemy indestructible by battle: her method of damage is slow and her innate protection can be covered by Aria and Elegy, and they work better as they provide global protection as well as targeting protection. Also if someone negates the burn damage in any fashion, Bloom Diva won't destroy anything.
Verse 3: Following the ARC...V (Anime presence)
This is where Bloom Diva truly shined. Albeit... Not exactly due to competition on her part. While she is a considerably powerful monster, especially in the context of the anime... She certainly stands out more because of how little the other Melodious do. Not only because of their lack of power, but because of a lack of what I would like to call "Character Synergy".
By that I mean, how a Deck relates to the character they're assigned to. Are there traits in there that could be directly compared to traits in the Duelists' personality or history? I would say ARC-V excels in that regard! Here's some examples of why!
Sora is a textbook example of a "Monster revealed under a cutesy guys", and the Fluffals and Frightfurs follow. Doesn't come out as well after his face turn, but eh.
Shun has Raidraptor Falcon XYZ Monsters that are perfect for battling against adversities and superior forces, which he surely had to all his time in the war. And each of them causes certain destruction whenever they enter. Raidraptor Falcon, having a much tamer and more defensive effect, is the fruits of Shun gaining trust in Crow and developing his friendship with him.
GONGENZAKA MIGHT AS WELL BE A SUPERHEAVY SAMURAI, DANGIT (He kinda became one!). Attacking while in defense is the pinnacle of standing your ground. No spells/traps in his deck to achieve their full potential because he has to hold the line and can't run around and search for Action Cards. It's PERFECTION.
So... How does Melodious perform in this category? Very poorly in the anime. They have very much a lack of cohesion in their effects there (the theme of Special Summoning being purely beneficial to them was pretty much exclusive to the OCG). Besides the music theme they share with Yuzu (and even then, she doesn't show it outside of the note pin and pink pentagram draw) they don't have a theme to make them stand out, as their effects are just too weak while not being that gimmicky. It was said around that even then, the theme was swarming, but I dunno! While Mozarta can Special Summon a Melodious from Hand, if you need to spend your whole Hand to have Mozarta and Canon on the field, then something's wrong. (In the OCG, that same hand would have been a full board.)
So... With that ranting out of the way, I can say Bloom Diva fits in this segment because I would say she had "character synery" with Yuzu. Maybe I'm stretching a tad, but please listen to me.
Bloom Diva is the fruits of Yuzu's growth. When she was humbled by Masumi and decided to train under Sora's wing, this is what it would all leave up to. Sure, Bloom Diva came out because Yuzu wanted to fight against Fusion, and she's sure to be active against every Fusion. However, there's more than that.
She learned Fusion, she gained Bloom Diva, to protect her Friends, so she could make her mark and do her part in the grand mystery that would eventually become the Interdimensional war. She's a little fish in a big pond, but she's determined to do her best and face things much bigger than her head on, as long as it's to protect or console her friends with her numbers.
Bloom Diva is very much the same way. A mere Level 6, 1000 ATK Monster... Such a low statline and level are fitting of a little fish, but that little fish strikes back pretty much every big important Monster in ARC-V, things that are much bigger than her. In particular, it would work very well against two things: Academia Monsters who love to inflate their ATK numbers to ridiculous levels, and most of the dimensional dragons!
Fun fact: assuming there are no damage modifiers or nullifiers, a Tamtam boosted Bloom Diva, in the anime, would ONE-SHOT Z-ARC AND ODD EYES. This is because Odd-Eyes doubles any battle damage he would deal to Bloom Diva... And that's reflected, and Z-ARC has 4000 ATK and he still takes the damage, unaffected or not.
Bloom Diva demonstrated her prowess, and thanks to her, Yuzu went on a hot streak.
Bloom Diva dealt the finishing blow to Masumi, Mikiyo, and Olga in the tournament, with De-Fusion making sire Halil would also be OTK'd as he was participating with Olga. Bloom Diva then was STOLEN from Dennis, and he beat her exactly because Bloom Diva became too strong. Oh and she also beat Chojiro, but that was more Score's thing.
Verse 4: Struggling with Theming (En Flowers relation)
Or as I'd like to call it: "Maestra! Konami ate our scripts!"
Bloom Diva more than deserved her title as Ace Monster of Yuzu, even in Duel Links. However, that puts her in a really weird spot when we consider the theme that was assigned to Yuzu as part of the Bracelet Girl theme... Flowers. With the MELODIOUS archetype.
While the other Bracelet Girl archetypes fit with the Characters' assigned themes fine, music and flowers... Aren't the same thing.
However, Bloom Diva is, and later Bloom Prima. Two Monsters that actually follow the theme. But something's not right...
Why are the Fusion Monsters the ones with the flower theme... Assigned to the STANDARD Bracelet Girl?
There can be two schools of thought for that.
The Kachou Fuugetsu theme was decided way too late into Melodious' production so they decided to slap the flower theme on any Monster they could to be done with it.
Yuzu was meant to learn all summoning methods, which all have flower themes, as that would create a message that from Standard Monsters, any Extra Deck stragegy can Bloom, and you need them for that (Runick wasn't a thing yet, shut up).
I'd... Go with the second one. If they could just slap something to fit more with the En Flowers Standard theme, they could always just make a bigger Main Deck boss Monster. But there was a plan here, to have Yuzu grow parallel to Yuya in their journeys... But Melodious just didn't sell. So their support was axed and ended some time after Bloom Diva (easy to assume the other Melodious Cards were in production by that point). Methinks it was a certain situation with Yuzu learning something with a friend who looks like Yuya... But I'm derailing.
So... This concerns Bloom Diva because she would have started that trend. And it became a trend of two, of which she was infinitely more popular (Bloom Prima was omega disrespected). Also another problem: Who should be Yuzu's ace?
When the bracelet theme really came together at around episode 126 and onward, Mozarta was chosen as Yuzu's ace, sticking out of a flower field like a sore thumb in the demonstration image they attached to Yuzu's description there.
However, for everything else... It's Bloom Diva. Individually, she's the best performer of the Melodious group, and is the only source of non-battle destruction Melodious has ever had. Plus she's FAR more popular, especially in fanarts which depict a Duelist cosplaying as their Ace Monster. Bloom Diva is almost always chosen for Yuzu, and there's very little for Mozarta. So... Yeah.
I don't want to end on too dour on a note, but this... Is all I have to say about Bloom Diva.
At least, THE STUFF KONAMI PUT ABOUT BLOOM DIVA:
Improvised Verse: HEADCANONS
We're talking about pretty much my main character of my main fic. OF COURSE I had headcanons about her.
But... I won't go too hard on these. After all, there's both headcanons about Bloom Diva as a MONSTER and as a CHARACTER. For the sake of this Day, and to not derail again, I'll focus on the Monster qualities. Also they'd need some hints on her designs or appearances on the show.
She's the exact Fusion of Mozarta and Soprano. We can see Bloom Diva being an evolution of Mozarta in the same way Odd-Eyes had his Fusions. Sure, Mozarta became much more minute, but with the whole eyes, the lines on her body, the small arms compared to her general figure and the lines that scroll from below her eyes through her cheeks (which Shopina doesn't have BTW) being all the same, it can be said for her to be another form of Mozarta.
If Bloom Diva's effect gets negated for the turn, her voice disappeares for that time, the petals stop twirling around her as she can't perform her Reflect Shout, and if she attacks, it would be a dainty slap, not dangerous at all.
Most would say that Bloom Diva has her feet on the stage at all times, but I'd argue her stage... Is her feet. She did blossom to the stage from there, after all.
She is technically Austrian. Real world locations and earths are established in ARC-V. Since Mozarta existed that must mean that Mozart must have been there. And so, she's technically Austrian. Supported by Bloom Prima theoretically being Shopina's Fusion. Shopina was inspired by Chopin, so Bloom Prima is French. She can talk some French at least, thanks to the Fusion Fright Waltz scene.
WELL NOW... We're actually done. If you read through all of this, thank you for listening to my ramblings about Yubel standing on a flower pot.
Jokes aside... I really, really like Bloom Diva. There's just so much right with her despite all the mess around her. She's the superstar of the wonderful mess that is the Melodious archetype, and no one can take that away from her.
TLDR; Bloom Diva cute and valid, she Yubel standing on a flower pot, dropkicked whoever she faced in the anime, and stands out in Melodious but why are Konami such COWARDS NOT EVEN A SUMMON ANIMATION IN MASTER DUEL Though Duel Links animation was crispy
#arcvmonth2023#arcvmonth#long post#yugioh arc v#arc v#melodious#bloom diva the melodious choir#yuzu hiiragi
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ty !!!!!! <3<3<3 12. how does receiving or not receiving feedback/support impact you?
I live off of feedback. I want to know if things are flowing well, I want to know if it made you angry, I want to know if it gave you butterflies, WHATEVER IT IS I WANNA KNOW
I cannot tell you how much serotonin i get when people comment or mention anything about what i write T-T words of affirmation is my love language and everyone is too kind it makes me blush (do not stop)
I love love love feedback of any kind. Not a huge fan of outright negative comments, but I do enjoy criticism that is justified. If you wanna hmu in my dms and say,,,, idk in the meadow doesnāt have enough cool describing words then message me and iāll say āI already know this and i think about it constantlyā LOL
54. Whatās your favorite part about the fanfiction writing process?
I likeā¦ being able to get the thoughts out of my head lol. I have ideas and scenes always floating around, and when I can finally get them down on paper it is the most cathartic feeling.
I also LOVE when I accidentally set up connections within the story. Sometimes it really is intentional, but thankfully the way I try to get in the same headspace as the character when Iām writing allows for more opportunities to connect motifs on accident LOL.Ā
Iām trying to think of one as an example and I can'tā¦. I remember which one was the most satisfying. I think a not so specific instance is when any of the characters have a moment that changes their way of thinking. Itās always subtle? But I often do it on accident bc I need the characters to grown LOL
55. Of the characters you write for, which is your favorite? Has that choice been swayed at all by your followers/readersā reactions to certain ones?
So early on while writing in the meadow, I really liked writing Meryl. I resonated with her the most just as a character and felt I understood how she thought the best. I wanted to break out of my comfort zone and write for Milly and Knives, but I needed the stability of writing for Meryl (and subsequently Vash)
BUT NOW after writing literally a book, I think Milly is my favorite to write for. My opinion changed pretty early on in the process because I think Milly is SO COMPLEX AND COOL AND POWERFUL and she justā¦ gets written off so quickly? And a ton of new Stampede only people donāt know her at all and I wanted to explore her character (and perhaps just shove my own lore in there but we donāt need to worry about that)
Thankfully the readers havenāt swayed my decision. I often beat everyone to the punch lol. They will comment about missing Meryl (and I had an entire Meryl chapter in the wings already written) or wanting to see the geoplant again (I already had multiple plans for the geoplant to come back lol). It kind of confirms for me that Iām doing an okay job when people comment stuff like that.
#asks#i just.... have many thoughts so i apologize for going off#i will now do it again#trigun#in the meadow
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Back to Basics
We started spinning this thread yesterday. Wanted to break it off because honestly, itās something we could have talked about at any point on our journey. Iām kicking myself for missing this angle. The potential is obviously relevant again here with our Egghead story getting Luffy & Zoro as a discrete pair which naturally opens a lot of room for callbacks to Act 1 of Wano. What I never caught until now is how well that already tied to another key moment for the pair in a way that weāre also seeing rear its head on Egghead.Ā
If youāre new, one of the most intriguing aspects of Wano in hindsight is how weĀ ābookendā the arc with a not subtle theme. I call it caste. Itās something that made sense for a core theme the first time it came up around Kikuās introduction...but it quietly falls by the wayside as Wano progresses. Felt relevant but not huge until the end, when Ryokugyu comes back in post-raid echoing the sentiment. Made so much more compelling with the āpeople who are about to leaveā element and Kikuās conspicuous absence followed by an attitude after reflecting someone who didnāt feel an obligation to go. One of the many points in the arc her silence says more than words.
Obviously this is an interesting element to slip into Wanoās conclusion, especially in this time-bending arc where Kiku consistently finds ways to come off as āahead of the curveā so to speak. Iāll tell ya, with all Iāve said about Stop!! Hibari-Kun I can never shake one of theĀ āRomance Dawnā type phrases that stick with that series about a perfect trans girl given Kikuās own matrimonial motif...āTomorrowās Bride.āĀ
This is even more relevant when weāve seen the same concept pop up in Egghead with Ryokugyu cropping up in Marcoās sidestory. All while in the main plot weāre dealing with a bit of a game centered around a rigid command hierarchy. The challenge yesterday though, where was the other point we had Luffy & Zoro dealing with a story like this? If you said the Celestial Dragons at Sabaody you get credit. Especially with Bonney involved. But that was Luffy & Zoro separately. Where were those two paired up and the villain was espousing naked authority for authorityās sake like this? Itās not the type of arc youāre probably used to thinking about on a deeper level:
Fuckinā Shell Town and Axe-Hand Morgan. Unjust hierarchies are a common theme in One Piece honestly, but we generally cloak it in something like racism. Fitting because thatās usually how you would see it in real life. Or we deal with secondary effects. Itās actually pretty rare to strip it down to something so...pure in its villainy though. We do it big at the start, we hammer it in strongly around the halfway point, Wano slips it in to kick off a story that might feel quiet but will stay our most consistent thread through the arc.Ā
Crazy thing though, I never really thought to give Shell Town much of a second look. Always one of the parts Iād rush through on the rare occasion I really wanted to sit down and revisit East Blue. Being honest if I wanna do that I tend to just watch Episode of EB. Sure it was early and a lot of the series was still defining itself...but this was it showing off what it was about. Setting the tone, and I donāt think it gets near enough credit for how well weāve stuck to a story that starts with Luffy, Zoro, & Axe-Hand Morgan. Seriously, if you never have go give it a serious look from that perspective. Whether the Tennryubito were planned or not, looking back I canāt unsee Morgan as someone likely motivated by them. Demanding tribute, a big vanity project, itās spot on. Someone who saw a small bubble he could claim that power and took it.Ā
Itās not just theĀ ācasteā or rank theme, I know we talked a little about Bakura Town feeling like an alternate universe Orange Town. I think thereās something there. The lion and acroābatā work their way in, but admittedly it always felt a little loose. Shell Town though? Go look if you donāt remember. You have this clever littleĀ āgoadingā scene with Koby, the big element of sussing out Zoro because of hisĀ ādemonicā reputation. Rika and our first example of how this series approaches food, hell that being where Luffy realized Zoro was a good guy. That little intro mini arc in Wano does end up feeling a lot like a chopped and screwed Shell Town...with Zoro taking Kobyās place. Remember, heās theĀ āscrewupā in Act 1. The lesson of The Crane Returns a Favor is not pressing people on their secrets. Iāve always maintained this is why he falls off and fate makes him repeat the story with the more blatant Yasu/Ebisu while Luffy & Kikuās story moves ahead into a big, unplanned coup for the alliance. Fittingly with Chopper who was much more hurt by his reputation as a monster in Drum. Which...in and of itself is one of the arcs that gets blunt about this overarching message and potentially alluded to Wano with Hililukās sakura trees. Not to mention being the first place we bring up Ace, Blackbeard, and Reverie.
Even if itās justĀ ārecruitingā her in the sense of finding one of the Akazaya, Kikuās the famousĀ ādemonā in Wano. Luffy and Zoro are the nobodies at that point for the first time since East Blue. But in the grand scheme of things, youāre left wondering if that reputation is what she was trying to avoid. She never divulges it on her own, and for all the hidden connections Luffyās flat-out enamored with the girl he just met. Regardless of what the purpose was, it still feels really significant to me we took the time to do that as Wano started. The way it bookends our main story and of course how Izo factors in certainly makes it feel like a plotline intended to transcend Wano.Ā
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Forrest Grump - Film Review: A Man Called Otto ā
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Have you ever watched a film that you knew in your heart of hearts was not very good? That it was filled with endless tropes and a way-too-predictable storyline, and yet somehow you found yourself in love with the characters and would follow them anywhere? Consider my surprise after seeing A Man Called Otto, which had a trailer set to what I could only call āMovie Theater Repellant Modeā. It had everything I detest in previews: stupid cat reaction shots, people yelling at each other over things like bad parking jobs, and the not so subtle hint that youāre about to experience something cloying on a whole new level. Cut to me sitting there watching the end credits and finding myself ugly crying with that figure eight mouth Laura Dean tends to get when sheās really, really upset.
Based on Fredrik Backmanās novel, āA Man Called Oveā, which also resulted in the 2015 Oscar-nominated Swedish film of the same name, the Finding Neverland team of writer David Magee and director Marc Forster have given us one of those highly mainstream Hollywood studio films that they donāt seem to make anymore. I kept thinking of The Accidental Tourist while watching and realizing I havenāt seen a film like that since it warmed my cold, dead heart way back in 1988. Stories of grief-stricken people Ā surrounded by a quirky cast of characters designed to melt their hearts are more likely to end up on the Hallmark Channel than in a multiplex. Well, if youāre like me, and you cherish the experience of crying in the dark with your fellow movie lovers instead of alone at home as you sadly flick your lamp on and off, then get out of the house and go see this one.
Tom Hanks, the Jimmy Stewart of his generation, stars as Otto, the grouchiest curmudgeon this side of Clint Eastwoodās Walt āGet off my lawn!ā Kowalski. When we first see him, heās complaining to a cashier at a hardware store who wonāt sell him the exact amount of rope he needs. As deftly played by SNLās Please Donāt Destroy standout, John Higgins, heās intimidated and exasperated by Otto, which will turn into a recurring motif throughout the film. Otto has deep wells of grief which he takes out on almost everyone he encounters, from neighbors walking their dogs to unsuspecting delivery drivers who dare to park on his gated stretch of street. Ā
Of course, someone will come along who will make this Grinchās heart grow three sizes, or in this case, a whole cavalcade of characters will take up the cause. From a highly empathetic transgender student (Mack Bayda) of Ottoās late wife to an elderly couple (Juanita Jennings and Peter Lawson Jones) who have a storied past with our protagonist, Ottoās defense mechanism of bridge burning meets its ultimate match in the form of new neighbor Marisol (a hugely winning Mariana TreviƱo ), who along with her husband and two children, with a third on the way, guilelessly kill Otto with kindness. Marisol intuitively seems to know exactly what Otto needs to get him out of his depression, resulting in their prickly yet truly endearing relationship.
Where this is all heading can easily be gleaned by anyone who has ever heard a story of any kind, but the prickliness in Hankās wonderfully modulated turn took me by surprise. His best performances, for me, have always had just a hint of simmering rage to them, and his Otto, keeps his walls up and his demeanor tightly coiled. This helps undercut the sentimentality at the core of this particular tale, and is largely why it worked so well for me. Further, scenes like TreviƱo's hilarious reaction to finding out about a serious medical condition, kept the pap at bay.
We get pieces of Ottoās tragic past sprinkled throughout with Hankās own son Truman sweetly, if a little flatly, playing his character as a young man. Itās in these flashbacks where we meet Sonya (a lovely Rachel Keller), whose story, filled with trauma as it is, contributes to Ottoās suicidal ideation. The original film version delved more deeply into Ottoās childhood and his relationship with his father, which the current film largely jettisons. Also gone is the voiceover and two key characters have been combined into one, which contributes to a stronger emotional connection. Magee also connects the dots to several loose plot threads which originally did not have much weight. That first film, while sweet and touching, rushed through its final act, leaving me pleased but not moved to the convulsive fits I burst into with the new one. In the prior film's favor, however, is a truly dynamic performance by Felip Berg as the young Otto. Truman Hanks doesnāt exhibit as much range and his lack of experience shows at times. Luckily, unlike Berg, heās used sparely, perhaps to cover up these flaws.
The remainder of the cast, while uniformly solid, includes such standouts as Cameron Britton as an overly friendly, constantly exercising neighbor, Manuel Garcia-Rulfo as Marisolās slightly dim husband, and Mike Birbiglia as a truly evil real estate developer. But make no mistake, Hanks, and especially TreviƱo, own this film. Her portrayal, while laced with a surplus of comedic beats, builds in power as she gives her character such a winning specificity. Their chemistry sparks what could easily have been a predictable slog.
Much like last yearās Coda, I feel A Man Called Otto has the ability to give mainstream filmmaking a good name. This year has seen some fascinating experimentation with the storytelling form, whether from the elliptical style as seen in TĆ”r and Aftersun, the unconventional structure of Triangle of Sadness, or the thousand shots per minute onslaught of Everything Everywhere All At Once. Yet here we have an old school Hollywood film which can win our hearts, and that seems all too rare these days.
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The Les Miserables Changelog Part 3: 1987 Broadway Production
Hello, everyone! This is the latest edition in my attempt to chronicle all of the musical and lyrical changes which the show Les Miserables has undergone over the years. This time, we're going through all the changes between the musical as it existed on the West End around 1985-1986 and the revised libretto for the 1987 Broadway production.
In some ways, this is a much easier changelog to compile than the last two simply because it is much easier to find audio evidence of the show from this era than from its pre-1987 self. We have a full soundboard of the original Broadway cast as well as a very good quality bootleg of the very first Broadway preview, as well as several audios from the next few years which use exactly the same script. We also have an officially released Symphonic Soundtrack which almost (but not quite) follows this version of the libretto exactly. So no more relying on unclear bootlegs and speculation to figure out what was changed when!
Having said that, the changes in this production were MASSIVE. It's almost certainly the most extensive edit the show's libretto has received to this day. As such, this will be a very long edition of this blog. So make sure you have a bit of time on your hands before reading it! With all that cleared up, let's begin.
The first change literally can be heard as soon as the musical begins. The pre-Broadway show opens up with the same recurring motif also heard, for instance, at the openings of "At the End of the Day" and "One Day More". This music then transitioned to the instrumentals to the opening "Work Song". The post-Broadway libretto cuts right to the chase, with the opening instrumentals to the "Work Song" starting right up without any preamble.
One interesting little non-scripted change occurs later in the "Work Song", but only in American productions. For whatever reason, every American Javert from the original Broadway cast until the first Broadway revival sang "And I am Javert" instead of "And I'm Javert", for reasons that honestly baffle me. Again, the libretto retained the original contraption as far as I'm aware, and the West End production as well as later UK and Australian tours still used it as well.
The next change happens while Valjean is on parole. After Valjean pleads against the farmer underpaying him, this was the farmer's original response:
Do you believe
A yellow ticket of leave
Allows a criminal like you to earn full screw?
Since Broadway, his response is instead as follows:
You broke the law
It's there for people to see
Why should you get the same as honest men like me?
I much prefer this revised version. Though the information is essentially the same, it feels more dramatic, as well as feeling less awkward now that it is in the form of separate sentences as opposed to a single sentence spoken in three lines with pauses in between. Moreover, the phrase "honest men like me" as used here provides interesting foreshadowing for its more well-known usage in "Master of the House". One could spend quite some time analysing the implications of this recurring description, but this blog is long enough as it is so now isn't the time!
In the same number, originally the innkeeper's wife had the following remark:
My rooms are full
And I've no supper to spare
I'd like to help you really, all I want is to be fair
Since Broadway, her line has been slightly modified:
My rooms are full
And I've no supper to spare
I'd like to help a stranger, all we want is to be fair
I suppose "I'd like to help a stranger" sounds less slang-y than "help you really". Presumably this is why it was changed. I find the change of subject from singular to plural far more interesting. My hypothesis is that the writers wanted to make it clear than this is a communal grudge, not a personal one. Everyone around sees it as perfectly fair to deny shelter to a former convict, not just this one individual. I definitely prefer the revised line, but evidently the producers of the West End production didn't; that production held on to the original lyrics for more than a decade after they were originally revised! More on that in a later edition of this blog...
A more minor change can be heard during "At the End of the Day". Originally, Valjean asks the factor workers "What is this shouting all about?" The Broadway script changes this to "What is this fighting all about?" Much less trivial implications now. I'm curious as to whether or not a staging change may have accompanied this. Usually the two workers get into quite a bit of physical scuffle by this point, far beyond the realm of shouting. Did the original pre-Broadway production use more subdued choreography?
"The Runaway Cart" has some noticeable differences. After Valjean asks the townspeople for help, the original response was sung by the entire ensemble, and went as follows:
(SOLO)
Don't go near him, Monsieur Mayor
There's nothing at all you can do
(ENSEMBLE)
The old man is a goner for sure
Leave him alone
The Broadway libretto revised this into a sequence sung by one individual at a time with the following lyrics:
Don't go near him, Monsieur Mayor
The load is as heavy as hell
The old man is a goner for sure
It will kill you as well
A female ensemble member sung "The old man is a goner for sure" while a male member sung the rest. I sort of like it better as an ensemble piece (something that would be largely brought back in later years, as I'll soon discuss) although I think it's cool that it rhymes now. Having said that, I'm fairly confident that no one in the real world has ever actually used the phrase "Heavy as hell"!
An official change in the libretto occurred in "Who Am I?" but listeners to the original Broadway cast would not have heard it. While the pre-Broadway show had Valjean refer to "This innocent who bears my face", the revised libretto instead refers to "This innocent who wears my face". Perhaps a means of avoiding repetition, given that the word "bear" is used again later in the number? Regardless, Colm Wilkinson didn't actually bother to adapt to this change! He still sings "This innocent who bears my face" in the Broadway production (as well as the tenth anniversary concert; not until his 1998 stint in Toronto did he ever start singing the revised lyrics). Since every future Valjean (except Ivan Rutherford for some reason) sings "wears", I still see it as appropriate to mention here.
At the end of the song, Valjean's "You know where to find me!", used on and off in the Barbican previews before becoming a settled part of the production by the final pre-Broadway libretto, is once again removed for the Broadway show. However, the West End production would keep it for a few years - more on that later...
Just listening to the original Broadway cast, one might think Javert's "Dare you talk to me of crime?" becomes "Dare you speak to me of crime?" However, this seems to be a Terrence Mann-exclusive change. Every Javert after him reverts to the original lyrics (as did Terrence himself when he returned to the musical fifteen years later). I'm still making note of the change here for the sake of clarification.
An instrumental change occurs between "Castle on a Cloud" and "Master of the House". Mme. Thenardier's "You heard me ask for something and I never ask twice" was original followed by three bars of notes, then by six more bars of notes that are identical to each other. After the Broadway production, however, those six bars of notes grow increasingly more dramatic as they go on.
A very slight change happens during the preamble to "Master of the House". Originally one of the guests proclaims "Hell, what a wine" while the revised libretto instead has him claim "God, what a wine". Definitely more natural in my opinion, though not a huge difference by any means.
A few subtle differences exist in the "Waltz of Treachery" number. First off, Thenardier originally asks "Have we done for your child what is best?" The Broadway libretto changes "your child" to "her child". I personally like the original lyric better, as it goes back to the idea established earlier that Valjean is metaphorically bargaining through the spirit of Fantine. It's definitely not a difference that makes or breaks the number, though.
Towards the end of the song comes another change that cannot actually be heard by listening to the original Broadway cast. In the pre-Broadway show, Valjean used the line "Let us seek out a friendlier sky", while the revised libretto has him say "Let us seek out some friendlier sky". However, Colm Wilkinson once again doesn't bother to adapt to the change, and unlike the "Who Am I?" change he wouldn't learn it over time either. He continues to sing "a friendlier sky" throughout his on-and-off performances as Valjean, right up to and including his 2002 run in Shanghai!
After the bulk of the number comes a more significant change. Prior to the Broadway production, as was discussed in the last entry, the "Waltz of Treachery" was followed by about forty-five seconds of vamping and then this exchange in the tune of "Castle on a Cloud":
(LITTLE COSETTE)
We're going home right now, monsieur
What is your name
(VALJEAN)
Now my dear
I've names enough, I've got names to spare
But where I go, you always will be there
Nor will you be afraid again
There is a sun that's shining yet
(LITTLE COSETTE)
I'm going to call you my Papa
(VALJEAN)
I'm going to call you my Cosette
The Broadway libretto replaced it with just under twenty seconds of vamping, followed by a sequence in the tune of the "Waltz of Treachery":
(VALJEAN)
Come Cosette
Come my dear
From now on I will always be here
Where I go
You will be
(LITTLE COSETTE)
Will there be children
And castles to see?
(VALJEAN)
Yes, Cosette
Yes it's true
There's a castle just waiting for you
This is followed by another fifteen or so seconds of vamping, and then the humming duet between Cosette and Valjean carries on as before.
Arguably the biggest change in the entire edited libretto happens now. Whereas the number was originally directly followed by "Stars", things have been moved around so that it instead transitions directly into "Look Down". "Look Down" itself receives a lot of adjustments. First off, the number began in the pre-Broadway musical with a bar of music that was then repeated. The Broadway version only plays the bar of music once, and the sung part happens immediately afterwards.
Gavroche's verse receives some lyrical updates. Originally it used the following lines:
This is my school, my high society
From St. Denis to St Michel
We live on crumbs of humble piety
Tough on the teeth, but what the hell?
If you're poor, if you're free
Follow me, follow me!
The Broadway production rewrote that sequence a little:
This is my school, my high society
Here in the slums of St Michel
We live on crumbs of humble piety
Tough on the teeth, but what the hell?
Think you're poor? Think you're free?
Follow me, follow me!
Better lines in my humble opinion; "slums" conveys the poverty of Gavroche's community much more effectively than the original line, and phrasing the "poor" and "free" lines as questions is more dramatic than their original statement form.
The old beggar woman's original "You give 'em all the pox" becomes the less grammatically accurate "Give 'em all the pox" for Broadway, though I have no idea if the original "You" was part of the libretto or simply an improvisation. Since seemingly all actresses used that line for the first few years of the West End production, it strikes me as warranting a mention.
Right after this comes another change. In the pre-Broadway show, the argument between the beggar woman and the prostitute was followed by an exchange by a few individual beggars. All of the following lines were said by one person at a time, the first three being said by female beggars and the last one by a male beggar:
When's it gonna end?
When're we gonna live?
Something's gotta happen, dearie
Something's gotta give
The Broadway libretto changes this to an ensemble piece performed by all the beggars simultaneously:
When's it gonna end?
When're we gonna live?
Something's gotta happen now or
Something's gotta give
I really like the switch to a group effort, as it really emphasizes that the beggars are a community sharing the burden of poverty. It really feels like an epidemic to an extent that it doesn't when it's just a small conversation. Evidently the producers of the West End show didn't agree with me though, as they held onto the original sequence for more than a decade after the official change, and by that point it had already been largely reverted worldwide! More on that in a later blog...
Originally, the exposition about General Lamarque was given by a few random students (supposedly not specified in the libretto, but in practice portrayed as Combeferre and Feuilly). Some ensemble dialogue between beggars was put in between. Feuilly sings over the end of the ensemble's lines - but many have speculated that this was not intended by the writers, as the background music sounds super out of sync with his singing! Here's how the scene went:
(COMBEFERRE)
As for the leaders of the land
As for the swells who run this show
Only one man and that's Lamarque
Speaks for the people here below
(BEGGARS)
Something for a meal
Something for a doss
Something in the name of Him who died upon the cross
On the cross, come across
On the cross, come across, come across
(FEUILLY)
Lamarque is ill and fading fast
Won't last the week out, so they say
With all the anger in the land
How long before the judgement day?
Before we cut the fat ones down to size?
Before the barricades arise?
Fortunately, the writers of the Broadway libretto had the sense to change the purveyors of the message into people actually relevant to the show's plot, namely Marius and Enjolras. Moreover, the beggars' dialog was rewritten into a sequence that feels far less clunky to me. The background music was fixed to account for the solo singing (now done by Marius) overlapping the beggars' lines, so it is now perfectly in sync. Here's the edited exchange:
(ENJOLRAS)
Where are the leaders of the land?
Where are the swells who run this show?
(MARIUS)
Only one man and that's Lamarque
Speaks for the people here below
(BEGGARS)
See our children fed
Help us in our shame
Something for a crust of bread in Holy Jesus' name
(SOLO BEGGAR)
In the Lord's holy name
(BEGGARS)
In His name, in His name, in His name
(MARIUS)
Lamarque is ill and fading fast
Won't last the week out, so they say
(ENJOLRAS)
With all the anger in the land
How long before the judgement day?
Before we cut the fat ones down to size?
Before the barricades arise?
Much better in my opinion! It should be noted that David Bryant instead sings "these people here below", but as far as I can tell every future Marius (or later Enjolras - more on that later) sings "the people, which is the actually phrasing in the libretto.
One final change in Look Down: Gavroche now says that all of Thenardier's family is "on the make", as opposed to the original "on the take". A rather pointless change in my book, though it certainly doesn't hurt anything.
"The Robbery" is another heavily edited number. Thenardier's line after acknowledging Brujon, Babet, and Claquesous was originally as follows:
You Montparnasse, watch for the p'lice
With Eponine, take care
You've got all the hash, I've got all the cash
The Broadway show rewrote those lines into their still-current form:
You Montparnasse, watch for the law
With Eponine, take care
You turn on the tears, no mistakes my dears!
This changed lyric more naturally transitions the scene into the gang's actual plan, though the original is an interesting continuation of Gavroche's recollection of Thenardier once running a hash house.
Mme. Thenardier's response is also altered from the original lyrics:
Here come a student from our street
One of 'Ponine's peculiar gents
Our Eponine would kiss his feet
She never showed a bit of sense
Into the current ones:
These bloody students on our street
Here they come slumming once again
Our Eponine would kiss their feet
She never showed a scrap of brain
It's interesting how the edit shifts the focus from Marius in particular to the students in general. It seems that Mme. Thenardier is less aware of the specifics of her daughter's personal life now, something that makes sense for her character.
After Mme. Thenardier's "You'll be in the clear", there was originally just eighteen seconds of a musical motif (the same one which opens "At the End of the Day" and "One Day More") followed by Thenardier's speech. Since Broadway, it's instead been followed by a few more lines of dialogue:
(MARIUS)
Who is that man
(EPONINE)
Leave me alone!
(MARIUS)
Why is here?
Hey Eponine!
Only now does the musical motif play. But instead of staying silent upon seeing Cosette, Marius now sings "I didn't see you there, forgive me..." Interestingly, in this video of a 1987 performance of the original West End production, Marius just stops without bumping into Cosette as he usually does. This makes me wonder whether or not the bumping was added into the Broadway version, and the lyric was added to accomodate for the blocking change. Of course, this is all speculation; I have no way to know for sure.
Thenardier's con job is also quite a bit different post-Broadway. Originally it used the following lyrics:
How you do? Spare a sou
God will see all the good that you do
Look monsieur, lost a leg
Hero of Waterloo now has to beg
Wait a bit, know that face...
The Broadway libretto edited it into its current form:
Please monsieur, come this way
Here's a child that ain't eaten today
Save a life, spare a sou
God rewards all the good that you do
Wait a bit, know that face...
It's interesting how Thenardier's facade shifts in focus from his own supposed hardship to that of an alleged child. I suppose the latter would be a good bit more effective in convincing passersby to donate!
During "Javert's Intervention", Thenardier now says "It was me that told you so, as opposed to the original "Wot told you so"; however, this seems to be a regional choice to account for a lack of Cockney accent, not an official libretto change. British productions retain the original "Wot".
āThe Robberyā ends quite differently. Its pre-Broadway form had Gavrocheās remarks directly follow Javertās āClear this garbage off the street!ā However, now Javertās line is instead followed by some instrumentals to a slower version of the same tune as, for instance, āHonest work/Just reward/Thatās the way to please the lordā and āHe will bend/He will break/This time there is no mistakeā.
After these instrumentals come the āStarsā number, now in a much more natural location given that Javert now has a logical reason to be thinking about Valjean!
The number itself is mostly the same, up until the final segment. After Javertās āThose who falter and those who fall must pay the priceā, he originally had the following lyrics:
Scarce to be counted
Changing the chaos
To order and light
You are the sentinels
Silent and sure
Keeping watch in the night
Keeping watch in the night
The post-Broadway show replaced this with a much more climactic remark:
Lord let me find him
That I may see him
Safe behind bars
I will never rest ātil then
This I swear
This is swear by the stars
WOW, what an improvement! Now the stars are tied much better to Valjean himself, and Javertās motivation is much clearer!
Now that āStarsā is over, we finally get Gavroche's remarks. The lyrics are the same; however, instead of the tempo progressively getting faster as it goes along, it now gets progressively slower. Interestingly the audio of the first preview has Gavroche saying "mother dear" instead of "auntie dear", but it's back to the original line by the second known original Broadway cast audio. Both audio feature Braden Danner; whether the "mother dear" was a choice on his part or a director's, a flub, or a libretto change that was later reverted is unknown.
"Eponine's Errand" has some significant changes. First off, the original libretto gave Marius and Eponine this exchange:
(MARIUS)
Did you see that lovely girl
(EPONINE)
A lovely two-a-penny thing
The Broadway libretto edited it a little:
(MARIUS)
Eponine, who was that girl?
(EPONINE)
Some bourgeois two-a-penny thing
Marius' request has also been changed from its original lyrics:
Eponine, do this for me
But careful how you go
Your father mustn't know
He'll strike another blow
'Ponine, I'm lost until she's found
Into some far clearer and more direct instructions:
Eponine, do this for me
Discover where she lives
But careful how you go
Don't let your father know
'Ponine, I'm lost until she's found
And yes, the line was "your father" right from day one. Michael Ball flubs it as "her father" on the complete symphonic recording, leading many to assume that was the original lyric which was changed later. But I'm not aware of a single live performance to use that lyric (which doesn't make a lot of sense anyway).
Another side note: Some Marius actors have very slightly changed the third line to "Be careful how you go" or "But careful as you go", though neither lyric is the standard.
Post-Broadway, as the instrumentals to "Red and Black" play, a student (I'm not sure which one) now shouts Enjolras' name before the singing begins.
During "Red and Black", Michael Maguire changes the original "It is easy to sit here and swat 'em like flies" to "Oh, it's easy to sit here and swat 'em like flies". However, this is an individual choice of the actor, not an official libretto change. Every future Enjolras I'm aware of (except Ramin Karimloo for some reason) uses the original line.
An actual libretto change occurs soon afterwards. After Marius' entrance, Grantaire originally asks, "Marius, what's wrong with you today?" The post-Broadway show changes this to "Marius, you're late. What's wrong today?" This makes it much clearer why Grantaire might suspect something is wrong.
Soon afterwards, Grantaire's original line "We talk of battles to be won, and here he comes like Don Juan" is slightly tweaked to "You talk of battles to be won". This is a little more appropriate, since Grantaire isn't actually doing a lot of talking!
After "Red and Black", Gavroche's part is very slightly changed. First off, American performances for a few years would have Gavroche whistle right before everyone quiets down, though I have no idea if this was in the libretto or not.
Secondly, Gavroche's original remark, "It's General Lamarque! He's dead!" is shortened to just "General Lamarque is dead!"
In another contender for the biggest change in the entire edit, the entire "I Saw Him Once" number is totally removed. I have mixed feelings about this. It does give Cosette, a frustratingly underwritten character, some additional content. However, stylistically it's not all that much like any other number in the musical, and it doesn't really add enough information to the show to warrant a whole song. So I say with regret that it was probably for the best to delete the number.
To compensate for the lost number, "In My Life" is lengthened to include the establishing character moments that "I Saw Him Once" originally did. Originally it opened as follows:
(COSETTE)
Dearest papa, can I tell him of this?
How can I tell him the things that I feel?
How could he understand?
(VALJEAN)
Dear Cosette, you're such a lonely child...
The post-Broadway opener is instead as follows:
(COSETTE)
How strange, this feeling that my life's begun at last
This change, can people really fall in love so fast?
What's the matter with you Cosette?
Have you been to much on your own?
So many things unclear
So many things unknown
In my life
There are so many questions and answers
That somehow seem wrong
In my life
There are times when I catch in the silence
The sigh of a faraway song
And it sings of a world that I long to see
Out of reach, just a whisper away, waiting for me
Does he know I'm alive? Do I know if he's real?
Does he see what I see? Does he feel what I feel?
In my life
I'm no longer alone
Now the love in my life is so near
Find me now, find me here
(VALJEAN)
Dear Cosette, you're such a lonely child...
After Valjean gives Cosette his cryptic defense of his secrecy, Cosette had a remark that is sadly incredibly hard to understand in the quality of the recordings we have. It apparently went something like this:
There are voices I hear
That come into my mind
Full of noise, full of fear
When the noise was unkind
In my life
I'm no longer afraid
And I yearn for the truth that you know
Of the years, years ago
Her post-Broadway response is much shorter:
In my life
I'm no longer a child
And I yearn for the truth that you know
Of the years, years ago
Shorter, but just as effective in my book. Plus, the use of the word "child" nicely ties into Valjean's initial remark that Cosette is "such a lonely child", as well as Cosette's frustration that he still sees her as "a child who is lost in the woods".
The next number, "A Heart Full of Love", also has a LOT of rewritten lyrics. First of all, after Marius' "I do not even know your name", these are his original lyrics:
Dear mademoiselle
I am lost in your spell
The Broadway production changed the lyrics into:
Dear mademoiselle
Won't you say? Will you tell?
I suppose this fits a little better with his remark about not knowing Cosette's name.
After Marius and Cosette finally learn each other's names (an important step in a relationship if you ask me!) this was their original way of showing their affection:
(MARIUS)
Cosette, your name is like a song
(COSETTE)
My song is you
(MARIUS)
Is it true?
(COSETTE)
Yes, it's true
The Broadway production rewrote it into the following:
(MARIUS)
Cosette, I don't know what to say
(COSETTE)
Then make no sound
(MARIUS)
I am lost
(COSETTE)
I am found
In my opinion, the rewrite captures the slight awkwardness of young love much better, as well as making a lot more sense!
Immediately afterwards, this is the original exchange:
(MARIUS and COSETTE)
A heart full of love
A heart full of you
(MARIUS)
The words are foolish but they're true
Cosette, Cosette
What were we dreaming when we met?
(COSETTE)
I can sing
(MARIUS)
Dear Cosette
(COSETTE)
A heart full of love...
The Broadway libretto redoes the scene as the following:
(MARIUS)
A heart full of love
(COSETTE)
A night bright as day
(MARIUS)
And you must never go away
Cosette, Cosette
(COSETTE)
This is a chain we'll never break
(MARIUS)
Do I dream?
(COSETTE)
I'm awake
(MARIUS)
A heart full of love...
Almost a totally different scene! The post-Broadway variant is better structured, but I do like the original too.
As the trio of Marius, Cosette, and Eponine exchanges inner monologues, Marius originally has the line "I saw her waiting and I knew". The Broadway libretto changed this to "A single look and then I knew". I kind of prefer the original, as it implies a little more than something as trivial as a cursory glance.
In the closing lyrical overlap of the song, Cosette originally sings "Waiting for you", but post-Broadway she sings "I knew it too". Then, she originally sings "At your call" but post-Broadway she sings "Every day".
During the opening to "The Attack on Rue Plumet", Montparnasse refers to Valjean as "the one that got away the other day" as opposed to his original "the bloke wot got away the other day". However, this is another regional change made for the sake of making sense outside of a cockney accent. The official libretto still had the original lyrics.
A tiny change occurs during Thenardier and Eponine's fight. Claquesous originally thinks it's a palaver and an absolute treat "to watch a cat and its father" picking a bone in the street. The Broadway libretto changed this to "see a cat and a father". Why exactly the writers felt the need to make such a miniscule edit is mystifying to me, but it certainly doesn't hurt anything.
Another change occurs later in the number, after Eponine's scream. Originally this was Thenardier's reaction:
Make for the sewers, don't wait around
Leave her to me, go underground
You wait my girl, you'll rue this night
I'll make you scream, you'll scream alright!
These lines were mixed up a bit for the Broadway libretto:
You wait my girl, you'll rue this night
I'll make you scream, you'll scream alright!
Leave her to me, don't wait around
Make for the sewers, go underground
The post-Broadway variation arguably is a bit less climactic due to it not ending on a threat. However, the original climax isn't all that appropriate since Eponine and Thenardier never actually interact at any later point in the musical. I like that the post-Broadway version ends on something that's actually relevant to the remainder of the show (namely, that Thenardier will be in the sewers). Evidently the West End producers didn't agree with me; this is another line in which the original was kept there for more than a decade (at which point a rewrite closer to the original was already being used worldwide)!
In "One Day More", Javert's "One day more to revolution" is slightly changed to "One more day to revolution". However, the number is otherwise unchanged.
And that's it for Act One! The opening barricade scene to act two has a small change. Grantaire's pre-Broadway "Some will bark, some will bite" was changed to "Dogs will bark, fleas will bite". Makes a lot more sense in my opinion!
The opening to "On My Own" is changed as well. Originally it was performed as follows:
And now I'm all alone again
Nowhere to go, no one to turn to
I did not want your money sir
I came out here 'cause I was told to
The Broadway version rewrote it into the following:
And now I'm alone again
Nowhere to turn, no one to go to
Without a home, without a friend
Without a face to say hello to
A huge improvement in my book. It actually rhymes now, and is far less likely to be misconstrued as ungrateful.
After receiving a massive overhaul not that long before, "Little People" was slightly tweaked for the Broadway show. The pre-Broadway version had this ending:
So never kick a dog
Because heās just a pup
Youād better run for cover when the pup grows up!
Another line (taken from the original longer version of "Little People" as well as all versions of its reprise) was added for the post-Broadway show:
So never kick a dog
Because heās just a pup
We'll fight like twenty armies and we won't give up
So youād better run for cover when the pup grows up!
Grantaire's line afterwards is literally reversed in meaning from the original "Better far to die a schoolboy than a policeman and a spy!" into "What's the difference? Die a schoolboy, die a policeman, die a spy!" This post-Broadway lyric fits better into Grantaire's cynical personality.
A very subtle edit is made in "Little Fall of Rain" (to the point that I only just realized its existence by reading an old internet forum!) Pre-Broadway, Marius asks Eponine "Did you see my beloved?" The tense is changed from past to present perfect for the Broadway libretto, so that he now sings "Have you seen my beloved?"
"Drink with Me" receives quite a bit of editing. The opening few lines are originally all sung by Grantaire:
Drink with me to days gone by
Sing with me the songs we knew
Here's to pretty girls who went to our heads
Here's to witty girls who went to our beds
Here's to them and here's to you
Now, those lyrics are split between various students:
(FEUILLY)
Drink with me to days gone by
Sing with me the songs we knew
(PROUVAIRE)
Here's to pretty girls who went to our heads
(JOLY)
Here's to witty girls who went to our beds
(ALL STUDENTS)
Here's to them and here's to you
A far more touching scene now that it entails an entire group of friends reminiscing about their lives, as opposed to the thoughts of one heavily drunk individual.
Originally this was followed by a segment by the male ensemble:
Drink with me to days gone by
To the life that used to be
At the shrine of friendship never say die
Let the wine of friendship never run dry
Then, this was followed by the same lyrics, but sung by the male and female ensembles overlapping. The Broadway libretto removes that and replaces it with an all-new segment with Grantaire. It's much more cynical and philosophical than his original lines:
Drink with me to days gone by
Can it be you fear to die?
Will the world remember you when you fall?
Could it be your death means nothing at all?
Is you life just one more lie?
The lyrics from the pre-Broadway show, in their male-and-female overlapping form, are played afterwards.
The next change occurs during the Second Attack. Pre-Broadway, this was how the opening lyrics went:
(ENJOLRAS)
How do we stand, Feuilly make your report
(FEUILLY)
We've guns enough but bullets running short
(MARIUS)
Let me go into the street
There are bodies all around
Ammunition to be had
Lots of bullets to be found
Some very small edits were made for Broadway:
(ENJOLRAS)
How do we stand, Feuilly make your report
(FEUILLY)
We've guns enough but ammunition short
(MARIUS)
I will go into the street
There are bodies all around
Ammunition to be had
Lots of bullets to be found
The following exchange also is a bit edited. Here's how it went pre-Broadway:
(ENJOLRAS)
I can't let you go, it's too much of a chance
(MARIUS)
And the same can be said for any man here
(VALJEAN)
Let me go in his place, he's no more than a boy
I am old and alone and have nothing to fear
Post-Broadway, it instead goes as follows:
(ENJOLRAS)
I can't let you go, it's too much of a chance
(MARIUS)
And the same is true for any man here
(VALJEAN)
Let me go, he's no more than a boy
I am old, I have nothing to fear
Finally, Gavroche's final lines are as follows pre-Broadway:
So never kick a dog
Because heās just a pup
Youād better run for cover when the pup grows up
And weāll fight like twenty armies and we wonāt giveā¦
A small edit is made for the Broadway production, so that the latter two lines are reversed:
So never kick a dog
Because heās just a pup
Weāll fight like twenty armies and we wonāt give up
So youād better run for cover when the pup grows...
I'd say this is an improvement, since Gavroche's death is all the more impactful when his literal last unfinished words are about growing up.
Not long afterwards comes the Final Battle. Leading up to Enjolras' climactic moment, the original lines went as follows:
(ENJOLRAS)
Come on my friends, though we stand here alone
Let us go to our deaths with our face to our foes
(COMBEFERRE)
Let 'em pay for each death with a death of their own
(COURFEYRAC)
If they get me, by God, they will pay through the nose
(ENJOLRAS)
Let others rise to take our place
Until the earth is free
The sequence was edited for Broadway, giving a bit more breathing space:
(ENJOLRAS)
Let us die facing our foes
Make them bleed while they can
(COMBEFERRE)
Make them pay through the nose
(COURFEYRAC)
Make them pay for every man
(ENJOLRAS)
Let others rise to take our place
Until the earth is free
"Dog Eats Dog" is a very heavily-edited number. First off, the vamping at the beginning originally lasts about 30 seconds. By Broadway, it has been reduced to about nineteen seconds.
After Thenardier's "As a service to the town" line, he originally sung the following lines:
It's a world where the dogs eat the dogs
And the worst is as good as the best
It's a stinking great sewer that's crawling with rats
And one rat is as good as the rest
I raise my eyes to see the heavens
And only the moon looks down
That entire sequence was cut for Broadway.
Soon afterwards, Thenardier originally proclaims "Here's a little toy". The Broadway edit changes it to "Here's another toy", perhaps to make it seem less repetitive after his "pretty little thing" line.
The exact same lines from after "As a service to the town" are repeated in the pre-Broadway number after Thenardier's "When the gutters run with blood" line, with one more line added afterwards:
It's a world where the dogs eat the dogs
And the worst is as good as the best
It's a stinking great sewer that's crawling with rats
And one rat is as good as the rest
I raise my eyes to see the heavens
And only the moon looks down
The harvest moon shines down
Unlike the first instance of those lines, they aren't completely excised for Broadway. They are, however, significantly rewritten:
It's a world where the dogs eat the dogs
And they kill for the bones in the street
And God in His heavens, He don't interfere
'Cause He's dead as the stiffs at my feet
I raise my eyes to see the heavens
And only the moon looks down
The harvest moon shines down
I really like how the edited version focuses more on godlessness than on how gross the sewer is. Not that a lack of a god is inherently sinister; I am quite agnostic myself and I think the unbreakable connection between religion and morality alleged by some is ridiculous. But it is blatantly obvious that Thenardier sees no reason to be moral provided no one will punish him.
As a side note, the 1985 London official soundtrack oddly uses this variant, yet the 1986 bootleg audio I have uses the original. Perhaps the original was experimented with, reverted, and later put in again? Who knows...
After the number, Thenardier now shouts Valjean's name.
The encounter in the sewers between Valjean and Javert originally ended as follows, with Javert's first two lines here in a tune not heard anywhere else in the musical to my recollection:
(VALJEAN)
Come, time is running short
(JAVERT)
Go take him, I'll be waiting at the door
I've never met a man like you before
A man such as you
The sequence was extended for the Broadway libretto, to the tune of "Look Down" and the "Work Song":
(VALJEAN)
Come, time is running short
Look down, Javert
He's standing in his grave
(VALJEAN - simultaneously with the next two lines)
Give way, Javert
There is a life to save
(JAVERT - simultaneously with the previous two lines)
Take him, Valjean
Before I change my mind
(JAVERT)
I will be waiting, 24601
A slight change can be heard in "Every Day". Originally Marius sings that he and Cosette will "remember that night and the song that we sang". The Broadway libretto edited this into the decidedly less medium-aware "remember that night and the vow that we made".
"Valjean's Confession" has been reworked to the point that it can scarcely even be considered the same song. After Valjean's "There's something now that must be done", this was how the song went:
(VALJEAN)
Monsieur, I cannot stay a night beneath your roof
I am a convict, sir, my body bears the proof
My name is Jean Valjean
I never told Cosette, I bear this guilt alone
And this I swear to you, her innocence is real
Her love is true
Our love, our life, are now her own
And I must face the years alone
(MARIUS)
I do not understand what's the sense of it all?
Is the world upside down?
Will the universe fall?
If it's true what you say, and Cosette doesn't know
Why confess it to me?
Why confess it at all?
What forces you to speak after all?
(VALJEAN)
You and Cosette must be free of reproach
It is not your affair
There is a darkness that's over my life
It's the cross I must bear
It's for Cosette this must be faced
If I am found, she is disgraced
(MARIUS)
What can I do that would turn you from this...
After the Broadway rewrite, Valjean's "There's something now that must be done" is followed by this:
(VALJEAN)
You've spoken from the heart, and I must do the same
There is a story, sir, of slavery and shame
That you alone must know
I never told Cosette, she had enough of tears
She's never known the truth, the story you must hear
Of years ago
There lived a man whose name was Jean Valjean
He stole some bread to save his sister's son
For nineteen winters served his time
In sweat he washed away his crime
Years ago
He broke parole and lived a life apart
How could he tell Cosette and break her heart?
It's for Cosette this must be faced
If he is caught she is disgraced
The time is come to journey on
And from this day he must be gone
Who am I?
Who am I?
(MARIUS)
You're Jean Valjean
What can I do that will turn you from this...
The few lines afterwards are the same, but as you can see not much else in the song is! Even the tune diverges a lot between the two variants. I'm very conflicted about which one I prefer. I gravitate towards the final one, though it's nice that the original actually tried to address to confusing notion that Valjean wants to tell his son-in-law of his past yet not his own daughter.
"Beggars at the Feast" originally ended with a solo for Thenardier:
(THENARDIER and MME. THENARDIER)
We know where the wind is blowing
Money is the stuff we smell
(THENARDIER)
And when I'm rich as Croesus
Jesus, won't I see you all in Hell!
The Broadway libretto switched this to a group line:
(THENARDIER and MME. THENARDIER)
We know where the wind is blowing
Money is the stuff we smell
And when we're rich as Croesus
Jesus, won't we see you all in Hell!
I much prefer the revised version, as the two Thenardiers clearly are in this act together. It seems more appropriate to let them both have the last laugh.
A small change occurs in the Epilogue. Pre-Broadway, Fantine sings "You raised my child with love". However, post-Broadway, she instead sings "You raised my child in love".
Another change occurs later in the epilogue. In the pre-Broadway show, Cosette tells Valjean that "It's too soon to ever say goodbye". The post-Broadway libretto instead has her sing "It's too soon, too soon to say goodbye". Repetitive as it may be, I prefer it over the original because the original awkwardly combines language clearly denoting the moment with language implying eternality.
Phew, we're finally at the end! Rest assured this is almost certainly the longest changelog you'll ever be forced to endure. I'm fairly sure it's complete, but this particular rewrite was so extensive it's not impossible that I missed something. Please feel free to let me know if that is the case.
As a side note, both for this project and my own enjoyment, I want as complete a collection of Les Miserables audios as possible. I already have most of whatās commonly circulated, but if you have any audios or videos you know are rare, or some audios that you haven't traded in a few years, Iād love it if you DMed me!
Until the turntable puts me at the forefront again, good-byeā¦
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The multiple Yuus' suffering won't end yet.
I feel like Villain! Yuu and Villainous Paranoiac! Yuu are similar personality-wise but do you mind switching them too?
I can imagine them sleeping with one eye open in their new world, cuz they don't trust anyone.
Thank you for the ask, dear anon!
You cover your nose and mouth to muffle your breathing as best you can.
Costumed adults run past your hiding place, crouched behind a series of pipes. Theyāre boiling hot, feeling like they could burn through your thin pajama sleeves even though youāre trying to keep your distance from them while staying concealed.
āPrincess? Oh, little Princess? Come out, come out, wherever you are~ā The voice of the older woman who tried to kill you when you woke up croons. You can see her shadow on the wall next to you.
Your lip curls involuntarily at the nickname, and you hunch down further into yourself.
āAre you sure we wanna do this?ā The other man asks. āIf the Night Raven finds out about this...ā
āHe wonāt.ā The woman snaps. āNot if we do this properly. That pampered little brat needs to die. If itās another one of those annoying alternate versions, killing this one means thereāll be no way for our version to switch back here. If itās a de-aged version, then even better. Either way, weāll finally be free of that weak, pathetic pushover of an employer. Now go check over there!ā
āR-right!ā
You watch as their shadows move across the wall, until they vanish as their owners exit through the doors on the other side of the room.
You bite the skin on the side of your thumb. You thought this place was where that...reporter version of you came from, and that you were in the lair of one of the seven supervillains you met before, but everything youāve seen and heard so far runs counter to that hypothesis. None of them were using the whole clockwork and steam motif that this place is decorated with, and the way those...minions? were talking, it sounds like a version of you is the one running this place.
And not very well, judging by the employee dissatisfaction.
You want to just curl up and stay hidden behind these pipes forever, but the longer you stay here, the more likely it is youāll be cornered with no chance to run. Plus the heatās making your head spin, and you know with your luck youāll end up burning yourself. Better to get out now while the gettingās good.
You slip out, and go through the door that the two minions came from, peeking around to make sure the coast is clear before darting for the next bit of cover. You wish not for the first time you had shoes to muffle the sound of your bare feet against the rough floor.
You need to find an exit, get out of here as fast as you can. But if you canāt find a way to distract the minions, how long will it be until they just follow you to wherever you try to take sanctuary, just like the Scarabia students did back over winter break?
Youāre in an even worse spot that you were then. At least then, you had Grim with you.
Here? Youāre all alone. Defenseless.
Your right ankle twinges again, making you stumble and clip a bunch of nearby boxes. You frantically need to spread your arms to catch the boxes so the crash of them falling over doesnāt alert any of the security.
And injured. Canāt forget your overblot injuries.
Youāre already panting after running for only a few minutes, your lungs burning in your chest. Nurse Kamac told you youād find physical exertion much harder now, but itās one thing to hear it and another thing entirely to feel how much effort it takes to do things you used to be able to do with ease, how much your body protests against the one advantage you used to have, how much more useless you are now.
You slump at a corner, sweat beading on your brow. Your vision is swimming, and your knees feel unsteady under you.
Something liquid and hot is sliding down your collarbone. You think your throat is bleeding again.
āKreek?ā
You yelp, tripping over your own feet at the sound, hitting the ground with a hard thud. You whip your head around to find the source of the noise.
There is a huge crow perched on a pipe above you.
Itās massive. Are birds allowed to get that big?
It tilts its head at you, before taking off from its perch and fluttering down to land next to you, hopping a few steps closer.
āH-hey, nice birdie...ā You rasp. Then, recalling something the minions said earlier, you venture, ā...Are you the Night Raven?ā
Thereās a moment of silence.
Then the crow erupts into a raucous, croaking squawks that sound suspiciously like laughter.
You purse your lips, running a hand through your sweaty bangs. āYeah, yeah, laugh it up. Itās not like Iāve been sent to a whole other world again or anything, and whoever this āNight Ravenā is seems to be the only thing between me and those guys who think killing me will ensure some supervillain also ends up dead. Because of course they do, thatās just how my life is, itās not like I donāt already know my birth was enough of a mistake. Ugh.ā
You drop you head onto your knees and squeeze your eyes shut tight. Youāre tired. Youāre sore.
You just wanna wake up back in your bed at Ramshackle with Grim cuddled up next to you, muttering about tuna, and have all of this be some horrible nightmare.
You flail at the feeling of a series of sharp pinches on your good shoulder and a heavy, warm weight unbalancing you. āHey, what theā!ā
The crow croaks at you from its new perch on your shoulder, looking both mildly annoyed and unphased by your floundering. You jerk as itās wickedly sharp beak darts forward andā!
Closes around a section of your mussed up bangs?
The bird pulls your hair back into place as best it can, tugging hard on your scalp as it repeats the process until itās satisfied youāve been groomed enough.
It is one of the weirdest experiences youāve ever undergone. And youāve played in a Heartslaybul crocket match.
The crow pushes off your shoulder, smacking you in the face with one of itās wings in the process. It lands on another set of pipes some distance away and turns back to look at you. It caws in a distinctly impatient tone when you donāt immediately follow it.
You weigh your options. On the one hand, it could be leading you into a trap, and youāll end up dead, though that doesnāt explain why it would try to groom you. You also donāt know your way around this place, and ignoring the bird could lead to it making even more noise as it attempts to get your attention again, which would alert your pursuers and get you killed even faster.
āSo Iām following birds now. Itās official. Iāve finally lost it.ā You mutter to yourself, pushing yourself shakily to your feet, and counting yourself lucky your vision only goes fuzzy once when youāre upright.
The crow guides you through the...lair is the only word suitable for it. It has a knack for landing on areas that will allow you to take some cover should some of the minions looking for you pass by, hissing whenever it wants you to stay put, and giving that same impatient caw once itās time to move on again.
Itād be nice if that system could be foolproof.
Unfortunately, as youāre running past a doorway that you thought was clear, you hear a cry of, āHERE! THEY'RE HERE!! THE IMPOSTER IS OVER HERE!!ā
You curse, and make yourself run faster, trying to ignore how it pulls the ridged scars along your left thigh and hip and your sudden shortness of breath. You canāt afford to acknowledge that right now, especially when you yelp as actual gunfire erupts behind you and real, genuine bullets whiz past your head to embed themselves in the stacked boxes near you.
The crow has the same idea, taking off to fly just ahead of you, soaring into the faces of any minions who try to cut off the path itās leading you down with sharp talons and beak at the ready.
You follow it to a huge room, slamming the large double doors shut behind you.
You shove back against them as the doors jump when your pursuers collide with it. Your breath is coming in harsh pants as you fumble with the bolt and padlock, barely clicking it shut before the entrance is forced open.
You stumble away, blindly colliding with a desk and hitting the floor as you desperately and feebly try to suck in air that your lungs canāt seem to inhale, your breaths getting shallower and and more panicked as your vision fuzzes out again. You canāt breathe, you canāt breathe, you canāt breathe, you canāt breathe, you canāt breathe, you canāt breathe, you canāt breathe, you canāt breathe, you canāt breatheā
A loud cry erupts above you, and you faintly see dark shapes descend down on you, feeling dozens of sharp pinches on your upper body, the force of what feels like dozens of dozens of wings dragging your upper body up and back until youāre leaning upright against something and thereās a monumental. warm, fluffy weight against your chest, alternating between getting heavier and lighter, forcing it to expand and contract in intervals of four seconds under it.
It takes a while, but eventually, your hyperventilating finally, finally stops, as you carefully and slowly suck in grateful lungfuls of oxygen and your eyesight gradually returns.
Then you have to blink hard.
You are covered in what you think Epel would describe as a metric fuckton of birds.
Theyāre all staring at you, some of them picking at your pajamas, others making a caw-like noise that can only be best described as a worried peep.
You lift a hesitant hand to try and maybe shoo some of them off, only for your heart to melt as one of them honest-to-Seven nudges into your palm, like it wants you to pet it or something.
You wonder if the supervillain version of you trained them to do this. If so, at least they did one thing right, because Great Seven this is adorable.
The monsterous crow who led you here lands next to you, squawking and flapping its wings indignantly. The black birds gradually hop off you at this display, much to your subtle disappointment.
āAlright, alright, Iām up.ā You grumble, shakily pulling yourself to your feet. āNow what Crow?ā
The leader of the birds lands on top of the desk you hit earlier, tapping on some sheets of paper with its beak. You pull them towards you, trying to puzzle out what youāre seeing. It looks like some kind of...schematic? For a water-powered machine that seems to be the power source of a death ray or something. Whatās most interesting though is the part of the plans with a section labelled āself destructā near the top of the construction.
āOkay, so this going boom would make for a good distraction so I could escape.ā You chew at your nail. āBut now Iāve got to find where it is so I can do that...ā
The crow pecks at your other hand. When you pull it away, it shoots you an unimpressed glare and turns around.
You lift your head and follow where itās looking.
There, along the back wall of this huge room, sits an absolute behemoth of metal and glass surrounded by scaffolding, a huge clear water tank like the one in the plans already filled to the brim and gurgling with movement.
Oh.
You purse your lips at the Crow, which is still shooting you an unimpressed glare. āIn my defense, I was kind of having too much trouble trying to keep those guys out, and then breathing to really notice...that.ā
It laughs at you again.
Thereās a percussive boom from the doors, all the birds taking off and circling with warning squawks.
You push off of the desk as you dash towards the machine, trying to ignore how you want to flinch as several more booms follow the first one. You grab the scaffolding and frantically pull yourself up, trying to climb as fast as you can. If you can just reach the top before they break throughā!
Thereās an ear-splitting explosion as the doors fly open.
āTHERE! THERE THEY ARE!! STOP THEM!!ā
You shriek as the gunfire starts again, the need to climb, to get away warring with the instinct to try curling up as small as you can so youāre less of a target.
Your footing slips when you jump to grab the last ledge, leaving you to desperately grab onto the scaffolding with your bad arm. You whimper at how the rounded scars on your shoulder scream in protest at taking almost all your weight, the blackened bite mark on your elbow throbbing with pain like a second heartbeat.
You feel a flare of agony in your right thigh that makes you almost lose your grip. You whine through your teeth as you grab onto the metal and heave yourself up and over, rolling away from the ledge and curling up so your attackers canāt hit you.
āCease fire! Cease fire you idiots! Youāll break the tank!!ā
It takes you a second to realize that youāre curled around the circular podium where the schematics said the self-destruct button was mounted.
āCome down, Princess!ā The older womanās voice floats up to you. āYou donāt know what youāre doing up there, do you? Thereās nowhere left for you to run. Just be a good little nepotist and come face your fate with some dignity. I swear to you itāll be quick.ā
You grit your teeth as you haul yourself up. āFat chance.ā
You can see her at the head of the pack now, scoffing as her face twists with hate. āTypical. Bloody typical isnāt it? Even the other version of you was an ungrateful little shit, but at least it knew when to keep its head down and listen to its betters. Itās galling to be demoted to working under an imposter, a fake human like that thing!! Spending all its time with birds and playing around with those stupid civilians, hah! Youāre no better than an animal! Just a dumb little pet that the Night Raven thought would be funny to give a title and call his āheirā!! A disgrace to the pursuit of villainy and evil!!ā
āAre you sure about that?ā
You take far too much delight in the way she pales as she sees your hand hovering over the self-destruct button.
āH-hold on princess,ā She babbles, reaching a futile hand up. āW-we can talk about this, just donātāā
āShut. Up.ā You growl. āIf you wanted a heroic little fairytale princess to terrorize, you picked the worst person you could.ā
āāCause me? Iām the damn wicked witch.ā
You slam you fist down on the button.
Thereās a wailing of alarms as the structure below you shakes. Tons upon tons of water bursts out of the machine.
The woman canāt even scream as the flood swallows her.
The crows caw wildly above your head, and you tear your eyes away to see the largest one leading the flock in flapping around a ladder leading to a hatch in the roof. You stagger over to it, your hands almost slipping off the metal rungs several times.
You push hard on the metal hatch and breath in the cold, dry air of the outside, the rough stony roof feeling like itās cutting into your feet. You can still hear the alarms blaring as you close the hatch again after the last of the birds have flown out.
Youāre tired. So tired. Your eyesight is going blurry again and the right leg of your pajamas feels uncomfortably wet, giving off little pulses of agony that has you whimpering.
āHey, Crow?ā Your voice sounds very far away. āI think Iāmma pass out now.ā
The world tilts sideways before everything goes black.
#ask#twisted wonderland#twst#villainous paranoiac yuu#harrassed villain yuu au#supervillain au#the supervisor#twisted wonderland yuu#twst yuu#a.k.a#yuu has a the worst time#the worst#diavolo the crow#villainous paranoiac yuu would make a much better villain than their counterpart#meanwhile the supervillain version straightens from where theyāre failing to terroize high schoolers#why do I feel like something of mine just got destroyed again
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šš®šØ for Pirates AND Eventide!
ā FOR PIRATES:
š - Is there reoccurring symbolism? Motifs?
There are some reoccurring motifs that are specific to characters and also religious elements inside of the universe. With Grey, he's always going to carry the wolf/dog motif with him wherever he goes, in stature and physically in the shape of his tattoos. Skeletons are also another motif that can be associated with him, because for many people who have encountered him or heard tales about him, there's a huge superstition that follows him around that he is deathless and undying.
I haven't decided on motifs for Ave yet, but the greater motifs and symbolism linked with the sea and the religion of those seafarers follow the story a lot as well. The sign of the higher power of the sea has always been a nautilus shell notched with eyes at every bend and a skeletal hand emerging from the opening. A lot of ships will have shrines with a nautilus structure at the center, and offerings will be placed into the hand.
Followers of the land-based Goldfaith religion will dip and dye the tips of their fingers gold in worship, so that's another motif of that religion you see a lot. There are lesser worshipped gods inside of the Goldfaith that also have their own individual motifs.
š® - Is there a magic system? Explain how it works
Magic in the pirates universe is extremely subtle to the point that you would miss it altogether unless you were directly touched by it or very near to someone who was.
Religion plays a heavy part in the universe, between the land-based and centralized Goldfaith and the older, less organized belief system of the seafarers. There are higher powers behind each of these religions, but they're so abstract and absent that it's completely unrealistic for most people to believe they interact with the physical world at all. But there are certain people for which those powers will give blessings too, or very subtle gifts, sometimes without them even knowing it.
For Grey, who was born, raised, and in a way very quiet and subdued, worships the sea and her godhood above all else, he's unable to drown. That's a blessing from the sea on him, but not in any kind way. Grey still feels like he's drowning when he's underwater, but the sea won't kill him. Even people who've seen him go under and come back up way too long afterward don't really believe it's magic, necessarily. They think of him as something superstitious instead, like a man who's not quite human.
And then of course there's Lauren, who follows the Goldfaith and prays to the Trinity Gods. His blessings are also incredibly subtle--things like clean healing (not accelerated healing, he still heals like a normal human--but his wounds don't get infected, he doesn't take crippling fevers, etc) and uncanny knowledge of truthful people versus liars are boons he's been granted.
It's a very subtle system, and in a way, there's no rhyme or reason to it. None that the people inside of the universe could explain. Sometimes, beyond all reason, someone somewhere comes close enough to brush against another power in the universe, whether it's Grey and the sea who raised him or Lauren and the faith that he asked for power, and something comes of it so quietly no one even notices at all.
šØ - What colors or textures do you associate with the wip?
All shades of fluorite tbh, and steel greys, blacks, silvers, and blues. Deep emerald and anything that reminds me of the sea, really. As far as textures go, this wip is something where it's either rough spun textures like worn down cotton and rough wool, smooth wood, and the very soft, light touch of old shirts that have been worn for years and years and years, completely imbued with the faintest fragrance of who they belong to.
š FOR ENCHANTED:
š - Is there reoccurring symbolism? Motifs?
Yes! With Enchanted on a broad scale, a big motif are the celestial swans and the swan motif. These creatures will migrate from the realm of eternal sunlight, Adrien, to the realm of eternal night, Alexandria. Because of their long migrations and dedication to returning home at the end of the seasons, they're seen as symbols of love and devotion by many in both courts.
For Hamara specifically, the Land of Dusk, the fox is a HUGE motif for them. Their king, after all, is called the Fox King, and they're supposed to be a land full of tricksters (though that's mostly outside perception and these losers just like partying more often than not)
Each planetary god also has their own individual motifs too that are tied into their kingdoms inside of Adrien!
š® - Is there a magic system? Explain how it works
There is lol but honestly this is such a soft fantasy that the magic system is VERY loose here! The planetary gods have by far the most power, because they're creatures that were born from the heart of their respective planets as celestial representations of their existence. Atticus, Heir Jupiter, was born from the heart of Jupiter itself. He controls storms and the weather on scales that no one else in Tolemia can. Another example is Kessel, Heir Gaia, who was born from the heart of "Gaia/Earth" (but it's not called earth or gaia anymore LMAOOOO leave me be) and has creation powers as a result.
Meanwhile, lesser celestials (not gods: just kinda your average immortal hanging out in Tolemia) are capable of varying degrees of magic ranging from weaker to more powerful. There's not a hard system in place for it--my focus with this wip was never to make a hard magic system for myself to follow. Celestials can do spells and other minor acts of magic though!
Meanwhile humans in Thalassia are still bamboozled by local god on the hill who keeps making weird shit.
šØ - What colors or textures do you associate with the wip?
Soft pinks, gentle sunset colors, rosy golds and sweet ambers. Anything cream and comforting. This wip really is just meant to be a big warm blanket to hold around your shoulders, or a really soft cardigan to slip into to stay warm.
#answered#wip: enchanted at eventide#that damned pirates novel#these were fun to think about#i hope they make sense#my brain is TIRED#thank u for the asks friend!! š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ
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TD Clues in the S11 Preview Special
Hey Everyone!
Who watched the S11 preview show? I did, and there were actually some fairly heavy TD clues in it. (Yay!)
I only got to watch it once live, and didnāt have the option to record it, so I probably missed stuff. If anyone noticed anything I didnāt, feel free to send it in. Iāll focus on 3 major things that jumped out at me.
So, Angela Kang was in the studio with Chris Hardwick, but Norman was there only via satellite from Georgia.
@wdwayā noticed that the music box was still sitting on the shelf behind Angela, which was cool.
1. The first big clue we noticed came from Norman. Chris had asked him something like, how is this season was different from previous ones, or how has filming been different. Norman said everything was brighter and more colorful than usual.Ā
I think he probably means because of the Commonwealth. If you think of the CW sales video we saw in the coda of the trailer, everything looks new and clean and nice, and doesnāt have the bleak, dirty vibe of most of the rest of the show. Then he said (and I paraphrase) that a lot of it felt like theyād all āeaten the wrong mushrooms.ā And by that, he means something hallucinatory. And that it seemed ālike the Wizard of Oz.ā
Yeah, massive hints going on there.
There has been a subtle but recurring mushroom theme in the show. Itās part of the overall hallucination theme, but goes back at least until S4 (you know, when Bethyl came from and center). It might be earlier than that, too, but thatās the earliest reference that comes to mind.
Either way, Norman is furthering the idea of hallucinations and things not being as they seem.
And then thereās the wizard of Oz reference. Iāve literally done entire theories on this (X), (X).Ā We saw it around Beth at Grady and also around Rick right before the bridge incident, where he disappeared into the CRM. Because of the way itās used in both cases, I think the Wizard of Oz motif is specifically about the CRM. Dorothy was transported away from her family and to a whole new world. The same thing happened to both Beth and Rick and both times they went to a community with ties to the CRM.
The hallucination theme is also present in TWOO. People have written whole essays about how trippy the whole thing is and how it feels like an acid trip for Dorothy. Thatās not the way itās written in the show, but of course this film came out in 1939. For Dorothy, it was an elaborate dream. But that just makes me think of episode 6x12 of Fear the Walking Dead where an almost identical thing happened with Grace and the episode is even called In Dreams.
And Iām not at all saying the CRM isnāt real. Iām just saying theyāre using these things as themes and we saw them back in S5 around Beth. Iāll have more to say about this theme next week when I discuss episode 11x01.
2. The next thing that struck us as suspicious is that Chris asked Norman, with this being the final season, what does he want for Daryl?Ā
Norman replied that wants Daryl to find happiness and āwhat heās looking for.ā And he very clearly meant emotionally. You could argue that he meant romantically but it could also just be in terms of life and familial relationships.
But you could also argue that he already has most of that. He has strong family and community relationships. Heās helping raise two kids. (In fact, very small spoiler for 11x01: at one point Daryl returns to Alexandria and we see both Judith and RJ run out and hug him. Itās very sweet. The point is, he pretty much IS their father for the time being.) And he has closer āfamilyā relationships with those heās closest to: Maggie, Michonne, Carol, Aaron.
So, the only thing heās truly missing is the romantic element.
@wdwayā also pointed out that the way Norman said it, it very much feels like something futuristic. Something he currently doesnāt have in his life. (Sorry Caryl and Donnie shippers.)
So yeah. That, and the āwhat heās looking forā wording definitely made us side-eye.
3. Finally, near the end, we saw a sneak peek that comes from 11x02, and Dog enters a Dark Tunnel.Ā
The sneak peak is Daryl and Dog, alone together in the subway tunnels. Daryl finds a walker rolled up inside a sleeping bag, which he kills, and then Dog starts barking at something and runs away from Daryl, into a small, dark side tunnel.
So, the dark tunnel symbolism is HUGE around Beth and Iāve got theories about Dark Tunnel symbolism that are YEARS old (X).
And, until next week when everyone sees 11x01 and Iām safe to talk about it, youāll just have to take my word for this, but theyāre definitely using an S4/S5 Beth template for Dog this season. We already know from whatās been released about the season that Dog and Daryl will get separated and heāll go looking for Dog. We already knew that. But when you see 11x01, it becomes even more evident.
So, Dog heading into a dark tunnel just backs up the Beth template even more.
But then, when they came back to TTD after the sneak peek, Norman started singing a song. Okay, I have no idea what it was. I didnāt recognize the tune and he did it very quickly. (If anyone knows what it was, let me know.) Chris clearly recognized it and started laughing, razzing Norman about how of all the songs he could possibly have parodied, he used that one. So, the lyrics werenāt real. Norman was making them up, overall.
But wanna know what lyrics he sang? He said (once again, I paraphrase) something like, āWhen Doggy goes into the tunnel, I know things are serious.ā
So, he not only emphasized the importance of Dog entering the dark tunnel, he actually turned it into a serious/Sirius/return reference.
Me:Ā š²
Okay, those were the three big things that jumped out at me. 1) Hallucination/Mushroom/Wizard of Oz references. Yes, all in one sentence. 2) Daryl finding happiness and āwhat heās looking for.ā 3) Dog in the tunnel = Sirius.
As I said at the beginning, there were probably other, smaller things I missed, but these were the ones that made me super happy.
Thoughts?
#beth greene#beth greene lives#beth is alive#beth is coming#td theory#td theories#team delusional#team defiance#beth is almost here#bethyl
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iām a survivor too, and i found that certain scenes/stuff will said just really struck me as ācsa-survivorā-like? i felt a bit uncomfortable about headcanoning it happening to someone else, especially for a fandom as wild as this one, but your metas have really been a comfort to me because theyāve been able to pick out and explain things that i couldnāt necessarily find the words for myself.
and yeah, i would love to have a character like me that is powerful and who finds love and who gets a happy ending. the people who call the theory disgusting always kinda hit wrong with me because although csa is a difficult subject, we shouldnāt be ashamed about sharing it. they sound like theyāre trying to say that itās a bad topic to talk about and implying that it canāt happen to kids, which uhhhhh-
(iām sure thatās not what they mean, precisely, but itās still what they sound like, and i wish that they would stop implying that we canāt exist, especially in popular media. we do, and iām not gonna pretend we donāt, and if they feel uncomfortable with the topic they can just use the block button. we deserve to have some well written representation just as much as anyone else. also, i really really hope that will gets a happy ending.)
anywayyyy i love your theories and i can see your post in the tag so i think youāre fine?? have a good day ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
SORRY, this ask took so long to respond to. It always warms my heart to hear other survivors speak and say they found comfort in my theory.
Yes, I think I and a lot of c*a/r*pe victims (subconscious or otherwise) were triggered by some of the symbolism/visuals in s1-3. And s3 made it hard for most of us to ignore the past imagery- since s3 wasnāt as subtle.
I get why people have reservations about the theory. But the debates to the contrary are usually just plain offensive. Or people trying to be respectful but being the opposite. Thereās the obvious bad-apples . I got many anons after part 1 of my DID theory saying itĀ āruined/tainted bylerā, andĀ āif that happened to Will iāll stop shipping bylerā , or that itĀ āruins the best gay characterā ,Ā and toĀ āremove the post immediatelyā. And this was when I was open about being a gay c*a victim. I obviously blocked them. Many survivors donāt come forward because theyāre afraid people will see them asĀ ātaintedā,Ā āruinedā,Ā ā just their traumaā, or blame them for what happened. So yeah, it pisses me off when people say similar stuff about Will (and thus other c*a victims). Not even diving into the messed up psychology about byler/mileven shippers (knowing i was a lesbian c*a victim) but purposely spreading bs rumors about me being a p*do that was into Will/Noah-all because of the theory. -_-
Then thereās the people who try to beĀ ārespectfulā but literally do the opposite.
Iāve heard numerous times itās somehowĀ āless offensiveā to just use r*pe imagery to make monsters scary. Rather than haveĀ the monsters have that imagery cause Will created the monsters from his memory/imagination-and st is a story of Will healing from that trauma. SORRY- I disagree. Using the worst experiences of peoplesā lives (and triggering their trauma) for no real purpose- except to make their monsters scarier to the normal/general audience who havenāt gone through it so wonāt be triggered like us - is MORE OFFENSIVE to victims! NOT LESS!Ā At least to me.
Then thereās the people who sayĀ āc*a should never be talked about (in stories).ā Which I disagree with. V*ctims have already been told by ab*serāsĀ and enablers of the ab*ser- to never talk about what happened to usĀ . So it rubs A LOT of us the wrong way when people say this.Ā Because (subconscious or not) you remind some of us of the people who used to hurt/silence us. People say this -simply for theirĀ convenience (like ab*sers) and cause deep down theyāre uncomfortable with our existence and equate the despicable act to us the innocent v*ctim ...or just want to deny the horrible reality of the situation (like many enablers who deny the truth and hurt us because they donāt want to accept reality) . And 1) It brings us back to a time where they told us to NEVER talk about it- and makes us feel like we did something wrong when we didnāt! 2) Every psych professional says with-holding/keeping the ab*se a secret is detrimental to our mental health.
Plus, thereās a HUGE difference between sugarcoating/minimizing trauma or WORSE glamorizing, condoning, or romanticizing C*A in stories (ex: pretty little liars) VS showing how the action is wrong, causes trauma, but showing recovery and happiness is still possible for v*ctims.Ā if the story shows how accurately traumatizing it is (instead of minimizing/glamorizing it)- itās incredibly rare for that character to get a happy ending.Ā Having a story about recovering from that type of trauma and finding happiness despite such hardships would be amazing for US survivors! We rarely get stories with a happy ending- Ā itās more harmful to us survivors to never see ourselves get happy endings in tv/film/books. How can some survivors (in a dark place) think thereās a light at the end of the tunnel- if itās never shown?Also if Will has DID too- itās good mental health rep, along with queer rep (and survivorās rep.) All 3 groups rarely are treated well or get happy endings in media. A lot of people may feel more heard, seen, and a bit more hopeful for the future - If Will (and other characters) get a happy ending.
And even though st has many themes- like say homophobia. To try and hand-wave all the disturbingĀ r*pe imagery awayĀ asĀ āWill is just gay so the monsters are like thatā. IS SOOOOOO offensive. Trigger warning for examples. Iām sorry what part of Max saying when Billy had c*nsensual s*x itās āgood screamsā but when possessed by the mf he causes Heather to doĀ ābad screamsā read as gay???! Having the possessed ch*ke/dr*g people beforeĀ throwing them in trunks (like itās implied Lonnie did to Will -since Jonathan checked Lonnieās trunk for Will in s1)?Tying their arms and legs up/ g*gingĀ them andĀ getting on top of them and saying āstay VERY still itāll all be over soonā-before a monster shoves itās tentacle into someoneās mouth and inserts a goo - just gay??? Similar to the sentient vine/shadow monster forcing itself down Willās throat. Let alone Will saying things like āhe made me do itā, āi felt it everywhereā, or being tied to a bed and screaming āhelp! stop! it hurts! let me go!ā While Jonathan is the only one whoās visibly triggered by this and has to literally turn away and hug someone . Or barb, billy, and El spiting up a white liquid from their mouth (similar to will spitting up a slug and lying to his mother about it ).El/billy touching a suspicious looking slime with their hand and looking at the substance confused . El drawing Papa with 3 legs (the middle one being shorter) ,Ā trying to undress in front of the boys , and Benny saying āI think sheās been ab*sed or somethingā.The theme of ab*sive dads- brenner , Lonnie, and Neil . Even when the demogorgan (called in d&d the ādeep fatherā/ in the show āa man without a faceā) attacked Barb itās chopped up with scenes of Nancy having c*nsensual sex (the monsters are doing the opposite symbolically). Thereās way more examples but NO- to try and hand wave /equate ALL OF THIS to justĀ āgay imageryā or an āa*ds metaphorā is WAY more problematic. And just offensive (specifically to gay people) than just admitting what it may actually represent. R*pe imagery and gay imagery is NOT THE SAME THING!
Also ST has never been a kid show- maybe rewatch the show and see the rating of tv-14 . Goodness sake- s1 has a st*ged su*icde, k*dnappings, m*rder, discussions of physics, h*mophobia, and s*x (with stancy in s1 & jancy in s2-s3). S2/3 discuss at their finalies recovering from tra*ma . S2 had gra*ic de*ths,Ā a man causing a women br*in damage/ and faking her m*scarriage, and a gang of vigalantes k*lling criminals. s3 had critiques on capitalism /media/s*xism, many d*eaths, and questionable imagery like the prior seasons. The Duffers constantly referenceĀ movies & events from the 80s (capitalizing on 80s nostalgia /subverting 80s motifs that middle age peopleĀ from that time remember)! Those people were their intended age demographic . Most 80s centric refs go over most kidsā heads (heck a lot went over my head too since I wasnāt alive in the 80s XD).The Duffers even said in the bookĀ āworlds turned upsidedownāĀ Ā āitās not a kidās show despite having kidsā. And maybe itās a coincidence but when Lucas in s3 hands Will theĀ ādevilās babyā firework (a hint about Lonnie) he saysĀ ā18 and over only.ā Which idk is a weird/random af line unless itās foreshadowing that the show will get darker about various themes- and maybe even change ratings.
I get people wishing nothing bad ever happened to Will or Jonathan. And being apprehensive and not trusting the Duffers to do such a story justice (cause itās difficult to do). But personally i trust them to do so tastefully with tact and not be exp*itative, (overly gr*fic) or offensive to v*ctims. You can disagree and think the show is about something else (or not trust the Duffers)- but itād be great if people could stop using these other messed up talking points. While trying to appearĀ ā(fake) wokeā and like they care for victims- cause we see through it that you really donāt.
Have a lovely day anon ā¤ļø ā¤ļø ā¤ļø
Update- I just really agreed with and appreciate the tags in this reblog
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the huge shippuden music meta
no one asked for this but iām gonna write it anyway. iām going to focus primarily on the shippuden soundtrack here, but expect some references to the original series soundtrack as well. also before i begin i know approximately two (2) music so some of my terminology is probably going to be incorrect lol, itās been a while since college. this is a general shippuden meta but it does focus on the uchiha clan, in particular sasuke and madara.
anyway, to start off, you can pretty easily divide the shippuden soundtrack into a few general categories:
traditional and/or acoustic
electric guitar tracks
some combination of these, plus orchestra hits aplenty
there are a few odd ducks here and there, but no worries, weāll get to them. and then within these general categories we have a series of recurring character motifs (which can be a bit muddled, because certain themes are used for multiple characters. i assume that naruto (the show) isnāt necessarily scored the way a film would be, and so the directors just slapped whatever dramatic/sad/upbeat music they could find onto a scene, esp if itās a filler ep, which definitely generates some confusion.) but characters and groups in shippuden DO sort of get their own motifs and themes, so here is my very basic list of those as well:
uzumaki clan and its descendants/allies: āemergence of talents/hyakkaryÅranā has a very cool melody towards the end that comes back in ānarukami/weeping godā and āshoryu/rising dragonā. we can basically call this the protagonist theme. naruto, sakura, kakashi, jiraiya, most of the konoha 11, and even minato get to claim this one. however, VERY interestingly, narukami is what plays when tobi (as madara) is telling sasuke about the glory days of the uchiha clan... possibly hinting at greater connections between the two clans???????????
akatsuki-related themes: i wonāt link a ton of these because theyāre super obvious. theyāre often full of choir and organ (harkening back to orochimaruās original series theme); they also tend to be slower. not always, though; look at crimson flames, a slapper if i ever heard one. prime example of akatsuki themes: girei, my FAVORITE bit of the shippuden soundtrack. UGH.
general shippuden themes: things like hurricane suite, heaven-shaking event, etc. most of the first ost goes in here. this category also contains the closest approximation to hashiramaās theme that i could find, experienced many battles and departure to the front lines, which both make me cry lol
there are other fun little motifs and bits and bobs that appear in this soundtrack that i wonāt get into here for length (remind me to talk about the angelic herald of death sometime), but itās a remarkably cohesive piece of work to the point where it gets repetitive sometimes; why are all the super interesting tracks unreleased!!!!??? anyway the purpose of this meta is to attempt to make sense of the way this soundtrack works. weāll investigate sasuke primarily because i feel that he really ties the whole soundtrack together, and you can extrapolate a lot from the way his theme evolves.
sasukeās theme (wandering/hyouhaku), yes the dramatic cowboy music theme, is this wonderfully atmospheric track that makes use of the kind of negative space between guitar strums to build up this aura, this Essence of Sasuke. this alone makes it stand apart from other mostly-acoustic pieces on the soundtrack, to me. the whole thing is just humming with this simmering frustration and melancholy and it really gives you a sense of sasuke as this tortured figure who has been severely wronged and experienced the worldās faults firsthand. notably, this version of sasukeās theme lifts its opening notes (and structure, sorta) from sasukeās original series theme, which i assume was on purpose. it shows that heās grown jaded as he got older, i think.
anyway, as the inevitable battle between sasuke and itachi draws closer, we get our first variation on sasukeās theme: black spot/kokuten. it has the same melody and structure as before, but features heavier guitars, more orchestration, and, in the final bars, notes that previously fell on 1 and 4 but now fall on 1 and 3, which bring a heightened sense of urgency to the whole thing. and more importantly, it ends without resolving itself? it leaves us hanging on this almost call-and-response bit with one wailing guitar after another, before winding the orchestration down and fizzling back down to the level of āwandering.ā here we see a sasuke in progress, if you will, working towards a goal that some may find sinister, but he is determined if nothing else, and the instruments match his fervor. itās roughly analogous to ācrimson flamesā in terms of intensity, but itās very distinctly Sasuke.
there are several more variations of sasukeās theme floating around, but the next one i want to talk about is this one called āsasukeās ninja way,ā apparently, never officially released but relentlessly employed by the anime directors. it takes a more subtle turn than āblack spot,ā but i donāt see it as a direct sequel to āwanderingā for a few different reasons. i think it represents the dilemma sasuke found himself after finally killing itachi and learning the truth about him: the realization that this whole quest for power of his was never really about revenge on one specific person, but rather about reforming the shinobi world as a whole. itās slower than āblack spot,ā yet darker, more ominous; it treads the same general path as āwanderingā but with added electric guitar, and, notably, choir. recall that choir is often used for themes related to the akatsuki, which i think ties in neatly with sasukeās motivations at this point. he, like nagato before him, wants to remake the world.
the final iteration of sasukeās theme, āsasukeās revolution/junkyousha,ā brings it all together. the akatsuki is commonly represented through choir and organ, and this theme starts out with both of these cranked up to the max. this is (pardon the pun) sasukeās rebirth, if you will. just combine the intensity of āgirei,ā the anger of ācrimson flames,ā and the determination of āemergence of talentsā and youāre there. seriously: this culmination of sasukeās character development basically pulls from every single facet of the soundtrack and produces this MASSIVELY rich piece full of anger and rage and hate and fury, while STILL managing to include the twangy guitar bits from āwanderingā (which have gone back to 1 and 4!!). we also have someone going ham on a shamisen towards the end of the track, which calls to mind the shamisen solo from āemergence of talentsā and other tracks. hinting at an eventual compromise with naruto, possibly?
anyway, i started out this meta trying to find a piece of the soundtrack that could serve as madaraās theme, but i wasnāt sure that one existed. i think the susanoāo has a theme, and the uchiha clan has a theme, but....madara just doesnāt?? sure there are unreleased tracks like ālegendary uchiha,ā but iād argue that doesnāt really go into his character as much as it just says āwatch out for this fucking guy.ā
but then i listened to hurricane suite one more time, and i was like HOLY SHIT THIS IS IT. for one thing, itās long as fuck: this track is a whole journey. it really gives the impression of someone who has lived an impossibly long life and become jaded and cruel and hardened. i realize that the argument could be made that hurricane suite is sasukeās theme, not madaraās, or that itās a general shippuden theme and doesnāt represent one character in particular. and yes, i think both of these interpretations are correct. hurricane suite represents what sasuke could POTENTIALLY turn out to be, given his evolution from āwanderingā to āblack spotā to āsasukeās ninja wayā all the way to āsasukeās revolution.ā hurricane suite warns us that sasuke can (and very well may!) make the same mistakes madara did and end up destroying himself in the process. (the middle of āhurricane suiteā GREATLY resembles āwandering.ā) and recall that hurricane suite is used in the very first episode of shippuden: the episode where naruto encounters sasuke for the first time, AND- are you ready for this- when madaraās name is dropped for the first time in the series.
this is why i think that, along with it being a general shippuden theme, hurricane suite is also madaraās theme. shippuden as a whole is practically suffocating under the oppressive weight of madaraās presence, right from the very first episode. even before heās introduced, he is VERY much there. so much of madaraās character is established before he even shows up. we hear so much about him from other characters (kurama, itachi, obito, hashirama), and as such our view of madara changes drastically over the course of the series.Ā and guess what plays when itachi shows sasuke that genjutsu of madara stealing izunaās eyes?
anyway, in my opinion and in my interpretation of the character, the music fits him perfectly. it starts out all low and choral with these slow ominous drums and deep strings, and this violin comes in that sounds like itās weeping. we hear something like a heartbeat that grows darker over time, before the music comes to some sort of resolution, an inflection point, and the brass comes in heavy. NOW weāre dealing with the orchestra, three quarters of the way into the song, and weāve got strings and drums set to a marching pace, more choral chanting, climbing strings and shamisen tumbling down the scales. it sounds like grief!!
and note that yes, this track is used in the very first episode of shippuden, during naruto and sasukeās first encounter. but it is ALSO used during the scene in hashiramaās flashback when izuna is mortally wounded and madara makes the decision to abandon the clan on the battlefield to take care of him, despite his better judgment and hashiramaās offering of peace. the inflection point in the music represents a very real inflection point in madaraās life: the loss of his last brother. (it always comes back to that, doesnāt it.)
#meta#madara uchiha#sasuke uchiha#uchiha clan#almost 2000 words churned out in one evening. [stares at fic] [sighs]#long post
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The Tolls of Justice: the Tarot, Name Meanings, and More!
Gentlepeopleā¦
BEHOLD!
All the tarot-aligned hints! All the future foretellings! All the silly references! :) Everything you might have overlooked is here for you easy-to-read pleasure!
Naturally, there be spoilers a-plenty ahead for Batman the TellTale Series: The Tolls of Justice, so if you haven't read it (or maybe you're thinking about reading it, or this is your first time hearing about it), I'd advise waiting until you're done with each chapter to read through the sections. You can either click the link and be redirected to Ao3, or look through my tumblr tag #ttoj!
*One forwarding note: the tarot references build slowly in this story, and I only use the traditional Major & Minor Arcana. You'll see a lot of jokes and name-type references before we get to the tarot. I also simplified the numerics, but they're often displayed as roman numerals on cards, hint hint.
Prologue
gang member "Four Ears" - a very very off-the-collar reference to the line "Listen up, four-ears!" from J-Men Forever; in context, it was an off-shoot of the insult "four-eyes" but for music taste, also implying the person's taste was "square".
gang member "Muddy Nye" - his name can be boiled down to "muddy river". It works as an allusion to the messy, unclear case ahead of Bruce and the Batfam, but also as a hint to Clayface, who acted as Muddy in his first sighting of the story.
"Sunset" - a reference to everyone's favorite vampire series to pick on, the Twilight series; back when it was at the height of it's popularity, some drug dealers sold heroin marketed towards the crowd based off it's terrible and unfortunately iconic(?) line from Edward Cullen, "You're my own personal brand of heroin"ā¦hence why the drug of choice BM is shipping here is heroin. Essentially, this plot setup is one big joke.
"FIGS" - a reference to POP! vinyls, hence the capitalized name and spiky word balloon on the packages.
"Gray Ghost [memorabilia]" - one of my (and everyone else's) favorite BtAS episodes, which proves definitively that Bruce Wayne | Batman is not only a Huge Nerdā¢, but also a massive collector of normal fandom things. (Do you think he troughs through blogs and fanwikisā¦? What am I saying, of course he does. He edits them.)
gang members "Jack Whendleham and Kirby Noltz" - nod to Jack Kirby, comic artist extraordinaire!
Ch.1: A Different Ceiling
[chapter title] - John does not wake up in Arkham at the start of the story, hence waking up to a different ceiling. He also hits different limitations on what he can do, so it's also a different kind of "ceiling". (Like the term "the glass ceiling", the invisible barrier a demographic hits in a hierarchy.)
St. Dymphna New Life Home - named after Saint Dymphna, the patron saint of mental illness. There's no "'s" at the end because I saw other clinics named after Saints didn't use the possessive form when referencing them.
The Lucky Hotel - an oxymoron, really; the unluckiest place to get stuck at with it's seedy history, but also the place where John "gets lucky"ā¦in a couple of different ways!
Stitched Up Alterations - a heavy nod to the wonderful batjokesy line from S2, "We're two threads in the same stitch". It's pretty deeply ingrained in fanon (and technically canon, if you go with The Dark Knight) that Joker makes his own clothes, hence Batman rarely finding him through his tailor. Since John's thrifty and clearly made his original Joker outfit(s), I piggybacked off it as a legit skill to give him. I mean, come on, the guy is always so stylish! And you're really going to look at me and say he didn't alter his thrifted shirts and vests to fit his sleek frame? Puh-leeease.
13th Street - 13 is a traditionally unlucky number in western culture; hence the "Lucky Hotel" there having a bloody history, along with a failed, closed casino nearby.
CorazĆ³n gang - okay, I admitā¦I'm still a weeb at heart. It's a One Piece reference. Corazon was one of the few post-timeskip new characters I really liked; his name is Spanish for "heart", and he sported a heart motif. Like the gang in this story, he also died before the start of the main storyline.
Ch. 2: Face Values
[chapter title] - A reference to the phrase "not taking things at face value", which is very evident in this story. Also doubles as a rather loose reference to the upcoming Tarot cards.
Sebastian Overfield - The name Sebastian means "from Sebaste", as is derived from the Greek word sebastos ("venerable", someone who has a lot of respect). Overfield of course is "over" and "field", implying the family is on a high hill overlooking/overseeing/maintaining a certain field. As Seb is a reverend, this name is well-fit for him.
orange rose [gift from John] - means "passion" in the language of flowers, and can allude to fascination; this can be taken platonically or romanticallyā¦but it's definitely romantic when it's coming from John.
blue iris [gift from John] - means "faith and hope" in the language of flowers, and sometimes are associated with royalty; an allusion to Batman/Bruce's overall symbolism in the eyes of Gothamā¦and John.
Chandis [ship, circa Prologue] - A reference to Chandi | Chandika, the Hindu deity; the short version of their story is that they are a demon slayer, known to be angry and passionate, wield multiple weapons, and ride a lion. And who was on the ship? Hmmā¦
Ch. 3: Ink Trails
[chapter title] - A reference to the Alterations' claim slip John finds, which ends up leading back to the Court of Owls. It doubles as a reference to the mask tattoo/clue on Ian 'Nito'.
Faith Ackart - "Ackart" is a variant of "ackhart", derived from "ekkehard", which we can say roughly means "brave/hardy". The name "faith" and "hardy" together is another very subtle clue for the audience towards the villains' motives. (Well, I say that, but it was really more of a joke-clue for me to giggle at. And it makes a good reporter name!)
Lou Monger - the guy's a fish mongerā¦with the last name Monger. It's-a joke! ;D
Ian 'Nito' Coggs - first mentioned without his real last name, but "Ian Coggs, Nito", is a pun on the word "incognito"ā¦which is what Clayface is here.
FriendBook/Chirp/bloggr/uBox - takes on Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, and YouTube respectively. (This started back in my 'Season 3' story, At the Brink of Midnight, though I've since learned that bloggr was a real thing. :T) The 'uBox' is meant to be a play on 'jumping box'/'the box' as other terms for TV, like 'the tube'.
"whole tomato of pins" - the supposed history of tomato-shaped pincushions is that tomatoes placed on mantels repelled evil spirits and guaranteed prosperity, but I really wanted to just allude to the common pin-cushion shape. (My mom once had a whole little basket of strawberry shaped pin-cushions. I remember "borrowing" them a lot as a kid to play with. And then "losing" them.)
"sock and buskin masks" - these are a reference to the "comedic sock" and "tragic buskin (i.e. boot)" of the Greek comedy-tragedy theatre masks. I figured something like them would be a good logo for the "false faces", as BM is obsessed with masks. It also doubles as a natural callback to the "your relationship with x has changed" feature of TT games.
Ch. 4: Suite of Cups
[chapter title] - the first chapter to be a reference to the Tarot, in specific the Minor Arcana of Cups; rather than specifying the card at play outright, this title is a pun on the aforementioned arcana "suite", as the main location of events this chapter are in a casino's hotel suite. One can interpret many Cups cards at play here, but...
ā Specifically, in the Casino's suite/crime scene, there are 8 visible seats, but 7 cups on the table. The 7 of Cups refers to choices, fantasy, and illusion, an indicates there are multiple opportunities or many paths you can take, but they should be chosen carefully; when reversed, it can mean confusion, diversion, and temptation, and indicate a lack of choice or failure to choose.
ā The upright version is definitely in play, with the overall root of TellTale games being choices, and some "the player" makes this chapter will move your relationships with Tiffany and John in different ways, which can strengthen your relationships with them. If "the player" has chosen to be a more violent Batman, the way the Talon - and later, the Court - treats Batman is different.
ā The Reversed reading can be interpreted for the Court's complete disregard for the mere notion of choice.
Bauta - a Venetian carnival mask, meant to represent 'anonymous decisions' via it's original design of protecting identities. It's quite common in carnivals.
Melpomene-Thalia - the Venetian masks for comedy and tragedy, a la 'sock and buskin', the masks used as a general symbol for theatre. You can practically taste the irony, given who's shown wearing it...
Volto - a Venetian mask, meant to represent 'anonymity, quiet exit' for it's blank face. It's also known as the "Citizen Mask" because of it's worn by the common folk (in comparison to the more elaborate masks).
The Lot [casino] - named for "drawing lots", like drawing straws or matches to pick a person to do a task (usually with the shortest straw having to do the task, but it varies). This is both a pun on the fact that it's a casino - where you try your luck at gambling - and corresponds with the theme of foretelling the future that's woven throughout much of the story.
The Wednesday Nighters gang - this doesn't mean anything in particular. I'm a big fan of Midsomer Murders, and there's an episode ("Death in a Chocolate Box") where it references a few dirty cops who frequently took the Friday night shift at a station for episode-plot-reasons, who called themselves The Friday Nighters. It's an off-shoot reference to it, hence the corrupt cops on the gang in this story. :)
[John's voicemail] - Another BtAS episode I love is "the terrible secret of Bruce Wayne". In particular, I loved Joker's voicemail when Dr. Strange calls in ("Boy, do YOU have the wrong number!") and I wanted to do something like that. But, y'know, way less murdery.
"F85H4ND" - l33t-written "Fate's Hand", forā¦well, the hand of fate, supposedly guiding you through life/events. Another correspondent to the foretelling the future theme.
Michael Hodgson - not all of the names I pick for characters mean anything. Sometimes their names are just loose references to things I like. This is a silly mish-mashup of the original hosts of Mystery Science Theater 3000, Michael [Nelson] and [Joel] Hodgeson. (Joel was the first host + show creator, and Mike was the second host who closed out the original series run.)
"40F5WRD5" [Batcomputer archive] - l33t for the 4 of Swords, a card in the Minor Arcana for rest and restoration; since the archives and file names are randomly generated when not prompted otherwise with manual input, an otherworldly force seems to be saying 'get some damn sleep Bruce'.
[John's ringtone] - I know, TT always has everyone's phone on silent. I don't care. Bruce's ringtone for John is "Mack the Knife", a song about a violent mobster, played on a carnival organ. Chosen because 1) John probably loves that song, 2) I thought it was funny that it has the line "the shark bites - with his teeth, dear - when he shows them pearly whites" and how well that goes with John's A+ dental care... 3) TeamFourStar made jokes in their BtTTS S2 playthrough about having "a special ringtone whenever John calls [them]"ā¦why would I not carry that through? They did get me to where we are now, you know. ;)
Ryde - the in-game stand-in for Lyft, the not-a-taxi service.
Ch. 5: The Wheel Still Spins on the Upturned Chariot
[chapter title] - a reference to 2 tarot cards in the Major Arcana. 1) "The Wheel"/"The Wheel of Fortune", which is a sign for continuous cycles, inevitable fate, and usually indicates good fortune and pre-destiny when the card is presented upright. When reversed, it can signify bad luck and an unfavorable fate. 2) "The Chariot", symbolizing a path forward to success, confidence, and overcoming obstacles; when reversed, it's stands for recklessness and lack of direction/control. 3) As the Chariot is upside down, John's original plans have been upended and everything goes out of his control in a chaotic situation. Heās essentially "not at the driverās seat" for a little while. "The player" decides which direction to take the wheel in - either letting him lash out violently and send him on more solitary and dangerous path, or satisfy his need for stability by embracing his new relationships. The Chariot is always upturned here, but whether the wheel spins forward or backward is up to "the player's" decisions.
511 N. Blade Street - this one's a bit messy. 511 = V I I, or VII in roman numerals, which =7. The tarot cards are traditionally numbered in roman numerals. North, for pointing upright, and "blade" is synonymous with "sword". So itās the "7 of Swords", in the upright position ā referring to deception and trickery, which is of course what's going on in regards to who Ian 'Nito' Coggs really isā¦
Apt 1005 - even muddier, but this is referring to the 10 of Swords, which is for betrayal and backstabbing, hinting at the true motives of "Ian" | Clayface. 10-0-5, so 10 and the l33t for "OS" = 10-o-S.
900 Wanda Way - Both a pun on the phrase āwander awayā and the 9 of Wands in the Minor Arcana, which alludes to pushing forward to achieve victory. A good allusion for a clinic, me-thought.
400 Wanda Way - The 4 of Wands in the Minor Arcana stands for community, another good allusion for a clinic.
Karen McCarthy - named after the most stereotypically uptight narcissistic asshole the masses have agreed to call 'Karen', and both McCarthyism and another famous lady with the surname McCarthy. Because I wanted you to know the second you see her name that she is *horrible*. (Funny, though, there's 2 senators named McCarthy that are pieces of shit and one infamous quasi-celeb who's the face of the anti-vax scene. Is it just a cursed family name?)
Ch. 6: The Tips of Our Swords
[chapter title] - Refers to the 4 of Swords card in the Minor Arcana, as the "swords" are alluding to the four active members in the Batfam - Bruce, John, Tiffany, and Iman - who work together on the case[s]; you can infer this title to a presentation not unlike the Musketeers joining swords to affirm themselves as a team, as they all gather together. The reversed reading of the card is for restlessness/stress in Bruce's case, and the clear signal of the universe to tell him to relax, and the reading when presented right-side up is for the break it gives to "the player", with the homey atmosphere of the Batfam spending time together. Either reading is completely valid here.
ā BUT, as Alfred is a non-active member of the Batfam, we could also say that 5 of Swords is also at play, right-side-up for the fighting and resentment with Alfred, and John's hinted budding conflict with him; and 5 reversed for Bruce's attempts at making up with Tiffany. If one illustrated the gathering of our four heroes joining swords like the musketeers over a breakfast table, then Alfred would be sitting drinking tea, standing as a symbol of the Ace of Cups, signifying new emotions or stirrings of feelings.
ā If we stretch the metaphor eeeven further, the title can also be a loose reference to the Sword of Damocles; threats always hang above the heads of powerful people, and in this case the looming threat of Black Mask and the mysterious assassin, ever-present in Batman's worldā¦
Dr. Brandi September - literally "Sword" and "Seventh Month", alluding to the 7 of Swords, hinting to deception and manipulation at play.
"I was tired of the soup du jour" - a shameless Devo reference; a tiring of the routine/everyday. "I'm tired of the soup du jour - I want to end this prophylactic tour - ain't nobody around me - understands my potato - I'm only a spud boy - lookin' for a real tomato" - DEVO, "Mr DNA/Smart Patrol".
Motel 11, Augury Road - "augury" is another word for crows; as a gathering of crows can be a method of fortune-telling, this a reference to a gathering of 11 crows, which when seen is supposed to be indicative of disguising or revealing secrets.
Ch. 7: Drawing the Strings
[chapter title] - meant to allude to John aligning the strings connecting the people and crimes together, like an old-fashioned way of mapping clues; can be interpreted as these crime-strings on the proverbial board being drawn closer together, marking the center of the "web" as the Court of Owls
Frieda Baast - Frieda, an allusion to the Norse goddess Freya, who rode on a chariot driven by cats, and Baast, the Egyptian goddess who had the form of a cat. It makes it really obvious who was staying at the Motel 11, huh?
room 14 [Selina Kyle's motel room] - a reference to the 14th tarot card, "Temperance", which when upright is meant for choosing the middle path between choices. This is meant to reference Selina herself, currently at a secret, personal crossroads and being in "the middle"; John can influence her hidden choice by either making her think about what her potential job's employers are really aligning themselves with, or taunting her into how she can't leave her old life behind. (Whether John is violent or not doesn't completely impact her choice, but it does impact how they interact later if Selina winds up in the hands of our villains.)
Oracle, Spoiler, Batgirl, Spectrum - Batman's had a lot of non-Robin sidekicks in comics, including Batgirl (originally Barbara Gordon), Oracle (Barbara Gordon, post-Batgirl-forced-retirement and computer hacker extraordinaire), and Spoiler (Stephanie Brown, who "spoiled" crimes). As a fan of Ao3/tumblr's @fractualized 's own Telltale Bat-verse fics (the "Release John Doe" series), I added in the reference to "Spectrum", which Tiffany became in lieu of "Robin". A wink from one fan-writer to another! ;)
"I'm steppin' out, my dear - to breathe an atmosphere [ā¦] - that simply reeks [ā¦] with class" - John's singing a classic Fred Astaire hit, "Top Hat, White Tie, and Tails".
Eric, Jerome, Jeremiah, Jack [John's "Normal name" ideas] - As this story allows "the player" to pick a name for John to use in place of his own, you can pick between some classic and modern references to Joker's alternate personas over the years. Eric White Border (edit: goddang it that's what i get for looking at White Knight while writing this up and never double-checking), Joker's regular persona in the New 52 Batman comic line; Jerome or Jeremiah of the Gotham TV series, both of which are different aspects of Joker's personality through media, with a more modern gritty version in Jerome (think Heath Ledger's Joker) and a more modern take on Joker's sociopathy in Jeremiah; and last but not least Jack Napier, the first official name of Joker circa Tim Burton's Batman (1989), and the one most popularly used (BtAS and other comics throughout the years since use this name). "The player"'s choice doesn't impact the story or the way John acts, but it does give a surprise feature later. ;)
Matt Chaney - Aka, "Clayface", Matt has both new and old elements in his name alone. Matt, for Matt Hagen, the most well-known/used of the Clayface personas, and Chaney, for classic film actor Lon Chaney, AKA the man of a thousand faces. This Clayface is an aspiring actor who is psychologically dependent on Moddy to keep him handsome after a terrible car accident left his face marred. He uses his excellent makeup skills and acting to infiltrate the False Face Society, and double-plays them and the Court of Owls.
Root / MuSec - stand-ins for Vine and TikTok, respectively. "MuSec" is both a play on the word "musac" (the word for 'elevator music' and generic produced music you hear in fake stores and the like) and the mish-mash of the words "music" and "second", referencing the short length of the videos. "Root" was used in a prior story (At the Brink of Midnight), and acts as another "natural network" type name akin to Vine; though I do recognize "Vine" might have come along as part of the phrase "I heard it through the grape-vine". I have a feeling some Aussie fans might find the fake-Vine name funny...or just awkward.
Ch. 8: It Had to Be You
[chapter title] - A reference to the classic crooner song, "It Had to Be You"; specifically, the one that flows through the first scene is a cover done by Frank Sinatra, meant to align with other Bat-media's use of Sinatra where Joker and Batman are concerned. The Arkham games got his famous "Under My Skin", and another crooner's "Only You". Batjokes fans/content creators have also used "Strangers in the Night" for their relationship. I wanted to present one that would feel at-home in the TellTale universe regardless of what route you end up with, and what's more perfect than a song about finally discovering the love of your life? The song fits them to a tee, in my humble opinionā¦
Estella Art Gallery - Selina's art gallery, mentioned previously to have been the site of a Talon attack. "Estella" translates to "star", for the tarot card "The Star". When presented upright, it means hope and rebirth; this card can be presented after a disaster, such as an event like "The Tower". Normally, it can be interpreted as a card to show a phase where you have trust and faith in yourself and the universe. Selina was turning over a new leaf and enjoying her new life until the Owls found out who she was.
Mrs. Bollard - "bald-headed person"ā¦this poor woman got her wig snatched as John stole Bruce from her on the dance floor. xD
"I knew today's horoscope was bullshit" - a nod to earlier, where Roman mentioned his horoscope when visiting Bruce; "a friend will help you out of a tight bind." Not that it was mentioned like that... still! I wonder what today's was? "You will be fortunate in your business endeavors"? Ha ha ha! But really, the horoscope is another nod to the theme of foretelling the future, as it's a popular method to try and see how your day, month, season, or year will be. Not that I know what sign Roman isā¦ *thinking face*
[Achievement Unlocked: Batman Who Laughs] - John showing up in the Batman cowl was not only funny, but a direct nod to the Batman Who Laughs. The TT games had Batman comic titles often used as Achievements, so I figured I'd put in someā¦
[Achievement Unlocked: Batwoman Rises] - Iman helping the team out in the spare Batman suit is naturally a nod to Batwoman, and something I wanted to do for a while. ;D
Brighella - a Venetian mask taken from a play now used to depict a cunning and mischievous servant. Originally the mask was used to depict a greedy villain character.
The Two Gilded Cups - A restaurant in-story that references "The Two of Cups" tarot card, a card representing unity, partnership, and two becoming one. When upright, it's a card that can reference lovers or a new relationship; when reversed, it can represent broken communication, imbalance, or tension. As such, the couple who were seen at the restaurant - Sonja Townsend and her husband - are established lovers who work together for the Court of Owls, but those who were really there are Jackie Lant and Matt Chaney, who are in an imbalanced relationship. "Gilded" implies that "The Cups" are covered unnecessarily with gold - this is both in reference to Jackie and Matt's disguise of the Townsends and the truth about their relationship. Matt's lies are covering for his narcissism and selfishness, and ultimately is the only thing holding him and Jackie's relationship together.
Moddy - A fictional body modification clay-mud-putty that's a product of Janus Industries, this makeup is the favorite of Matt Chaney and the reason we can call him "Clayface". Like the traditional Clayface, Matt is in dire need to have his fix of the makeup, despite what it does to him - as John notes, it leaves a weird burn-like sensation, and since Matt has deep scar tissue he covers every minute of every day, it's made the skin damage worse.
"Youāre really committed to drowning in that river" - A riff on the old joke "denial ("de Nile") isn't just a river in Egypt".
"Your words are honey in my ears, but my brain always turns it into bitter wax" - In Futurama, Fry has a silly line of āSweet words! Sweet words that turn into bitter wax in my ears!ā. It always had the potential to be a great metaphor if the words were twisted around! :) Plus, I mean, come on, this is a totally On Brandā¢ thing for John to say!
Ch. 9: Strength in Numbers
[chapter title] - Referencing the Strength card, for bravery, compassion, and inner strength; the title also doubles as a play on ādifferent kinds of strengthsā. Strength is the will the expose your truths. Strength is finding compassion to help others. Strength is staying true to your convictions in the face of opposition. We see all different kinds of strength on display here.
ā It can also a reference to the different partnerships going on, with Jackie joining the team (unofficially), Bruce and Tiffany going off to tackle the other half of our case, and John and Imanās team-up. :)
"[John] could barely hear it over the tinny electronic whistling tune emitting from his own phone, telling him the person on the other end was a mystery" - this is referencing an old tumblr joke! Yes, John has the āIt is a mysteryā tone on his phone for unknown callsā¦complete with the little (:o) ghost icon.
CUP5K1NG [license plate] - Referring to the King of Cups card, a card portraying emotional balance and compassion. As it's not written as "K1NGCUP5", it implies it's a reversed card, signifying there's manipulation and instability at work. Even though Matt doesn't own the car this license plate belongs to, it's definitely tied to him since it's his getaway ride, and thus hints at what's to be revealed in his and Jackie's hotel room.
Aylin Street - the name "Alyin" translates into āmoon halo; one that belongs to the moonā, thereby being a reference to the Moon card, representing mysteries and illusions. An investigation is afoot!
āLooks like Iāve got the red light, kiddo.ā - In stage acts, the red light is to indicate to the performer their time on stage is up. Generally, itās reserved for comedians who either overrun their time or are losing the audience. John's joking that he's been given the red light to exit stage left (but not persued by bear).
"Whatās the āGā for?ā - Iman's 'Gotham Construction' jumpsuit has a G different from John's - it's shaped more like a gear. This is another Mystery Science Theater reference, in particular the logo for Gizmonic Institute, the company/labs that "employed" original host Joel and the mad scientist Dr. Forrester (and his assistant, TV's Frank), who started the experiments of forcing a guy and his robot friends to watch reeeally bad movies. The result was 12 (soon to be 13!) seasons of some guys making hilarious and very memorable jokes at said bad movies' expense. Does this reference mean that Bruce is just as huge a dork as I am, or does it mean that MST3K is real in this universe?! You make the call! ;D
ā ā¦if you read 'What's the 'G' for?' in Invader Zim's voice, that's also valid. Especially if you followed it with āI dONāt know!ā in GIR's. (There is no cringing here! We openly embrace our childhood silliness!)
MasterOfClayFace / #IdW3arThat [Matt Chaney's social media login] - naturally Matt is so far up on his high horse that he considers himself a master of clay workā¦and of course his nickname is ClayFace! His password is a joke in and out of canon, being a riff on Lemon Demon song: āA mask of my own face ā Iād wear thatā ~ Lemon Demon, āMask of My Own Faceā [Nature Tapes].
3055 [Jackie Lant's InstaPic followers] - According to research, the average Instagram following is about 1000, so Jackie is above average popularity. Anything above 10k is usually(?) celeb status. The number 3055 is meant to be broken up and turned partially into l33t, to make 3-O-S-S, or 3 of Sword[s]. The 3 of Swords card in the tarot signifies heartbreak and grief, stemming from betrayal, loneliness, and rejection. Jackie experienced all three of these heart-piercing swords during her return to Gotham, with Matt basically forcing her into isolation, betraying her trust, and rejecting her input and values in favor of his own; but she didn't really know it until the truth was exposed.
8055 [Matt Chaney's InstaPic followers] - similarly, Matt's follower count is meant to be 8-O-S-S, or the 8 of Swords card. It signifies self-victimization and imprisonment. In particular, the card shows a person restrained and trapped, but their helplessness is a showā¦they could choose to get out, if they got over themselves. Matt is incredibly selfish, so it comes as no surprise that he will play the victim card.
#OnlyInGotham - Another tumblr reference! I love the @hashtagonlyingotham blog! ( ^3^)
The Herold Rite's Theatre - A play on the word "Hierophant": Herold, like āherald (ruler/champion)ā and Rites, like āsacred ritesā. In the tarot, the Hierophant card represents following tradition and values, which for the Owls is their very core. This is basically a big ol' hint that Iman and John are heading into Owl territory, but also foreshadows the religious undercut of The Court and Reverend Sebastian Overfield's role.
"a familiar red-pyramid-and-floating-eyeball" [graffiti] - A reference to my icon! ;D You think I can't self-promo?
trading cards [found in theatre storage] - In the Theatre, John finds "old promotional trading cards for an old sci-fi film with big-brained aliens". This is a shameless and loving reference to Tim Burton's 1996 film Mars Attacks!, of which my AO3/tumblr icon and username is lifted - the movie was based on a series of Topps trading cards from the 1960's, and had it's own set of cards with movie scenes and behind-the-scenes pictures (and summaries of events) printed for the movie! They also used them as promotional tools, and if you get very lucky purchasing a copy of the old single-issue comic books from the 1995 Mars Attacks run from Image Comics, you can get a promo card.
https://bit.gt.gd/S3272019F?=RO - Originally "gd" stood for a derivative of Google Drive, but I canāt look at it and not see āget goodā. The "S3272019F?" is meant to stand for "Started: March 27, 2019 Finished: ?". I can't believe I started uploading the story in March of 2019! Man, 2020 really messed with my sense of timeā¦
Ch. 10: Tantara Bounces Off of Moonlit Walls
[chapter title] - "Tantara" is defined as "the blare of a trumpet or horn", as seen in the Judgement card, which stands for self-reflection as well as reckoning, and can indicate rebirth. There's of course another reference to the Moon card, for intuitions and the unconscious being. Then what are the "[Moonlit] Walls"? Well, they're the part of the only Major Arcana tarot card to represent a building - they are the walls of the Tower, symbolizing destruction and disaster. When all the cards' meanings are put all together, this alludes to a time of discovery among absolute disaster.
ā Expanded, the whole title is a reference to both forms of Judgement occurring ā self-reflection and change are happening with Bruce and John as their mysteries and anxieties are finally put to rest: John is undergoing his final "rebirth", seeing his reality clearly in Arkhamās padded cell; Bruce seems to finally come to terms with working with Tiffany, as his fear of not being able to protect her comes through with her showing she's able take care of herself and prove she's a true asset to the team; and the Court of Owls finally comes to light, with Matt Chaney, the Talon Adam, and the Talon Sonja Townsend finally showing their real motivations.
ā We can also interpret the title as a reckoning coming for the Owls, who have long been obscuring the truth of their deeds and whose true motives have been murky. They've built their own tower of disaster with bricks of delusion, and judgement's horn is blaring a warning through their hallwaysā¦
"X-Sharp Manufacturing" - a reference to the 10 of Swords (hence the "sharp"), the tarot card for betrayal, backstabbing, and defeat. For Bruce, there is disaster here beyond his control that ends in a [temporary] defeat. For Roman Sionis, owner of the small factory as part of Janus Inc., he's unwittingly walked into his own betrayal.
"Merlin's Flower Arrangements" - Merlin, a famous wizard, is a reference to The Magician card, who defines āas above, so belowāā¦ And as John is taken to a secondary location, so is Bruce. :)
"La Luna Painting" - La Luna, aka The Moon; remember, shadows can play tricks on your eye, so somethingās afoot hereā¦ Aka "HEY GUYS THIS TOTALLY ISNāT SUSPICIOUS OR ANYTHING NO SIR"
Yelsnia Theater - Yelsnia isā¦actually a name. But searching for it shows my true hint, as it's "Ainsley" backwards. "Ainsley" derives from Scottish words meaning āalone, solitaryā or āhermitageā. This is a reference to the Hermit card ā in this case, it's blatantly upside down, referring to loneliness, isolation, and a general disconnection with mankind. AKA, the path Matt is on.
"the looming pillar tower" [Arkham] - A blatant representation of The Tower. It stands for impending disaster and "an upheaval of a foundation of reality". Of course, this can be taken in two ways. 1) That John has overcome/avoided the disaster of another mental breakdown. 2) That Johnās foundation of his delusions - that heāll wake up in or get sent back to Arkham for his sickness - was wrong in a realistic sense, as heās made serious progress in managing his emotional issues, and right in an unrealistic one, where the only way he could be sent back was through an outside force, i.e. the Owls.
10210475 [inmate number] - When separated for the numeric cipher, we get 10-21-4-7-5, or J-U-D-G-E
13051420 [inmate number] - When separated for the numeric cipher, we get 13-5-14-20, or M-E-N-T
ā When put together, the inmate numbers read "Judgement", the tarot card is shown here for John's choices and character arc on display throughout this chapter. When the card is reversed, it implies a lack of self-awareness, which we can also attribute to "the player's" choices for John if they make Bad Decisions. If you simply take the word "judgement" at face-value (without involving the tarot) it also works wonderfully, applying to John's entire situation as being a trial/judgement set by a higher force.
"The prince returned to the tower" dialogue [the prophetic cell mate] - Whether the person speaking is physical or not, John notes he can hear the scratching of pencil on paper within the cell, implying a person is writing their words down like a storyā¦ āThe prince,ā (John Doe, alias Joker, traditionally the āClown Princeā of Gotham) āhaving returned to the towerā (Arkham Asylum, the foundations of John's issues) āto reclaim his crown,ā (assurance in himself and his reality; the completion of John's "self" with his final choices and becoming Vigilante!Joker for good) ātrails after the fiendā (confronts the Talon Adam, alias Owl-man) āwho's flying on wings of retributionā (core beliefs, perceived sense of justice). āThe fiendās wings are big, but the bones are brittleā (the Owl-man is imposing and persistent, but his physical "wings" are his weakness).
ā If you couple the Court of Owl's belief that G*d has written down the destinies of everyone in the world [as they are each born] with the knowledge that someone was writing down a short version of John's events at Arkhamā¦hmmm.....
Room 11 [Iman's cell room] - The 11th card in the Major Arcana is "Justice". This can reference either 1) The just-desserts coming for Talon Adam/"The Owlman", or 2) The outcome of the playerās choice to take Iman with them or not.
11 minutes + 16 seconds [remaining time on bomb timer] - 11:16. 11/16, aka my birthday! :) I only wish I had finished Chapter 10 in time for the chapter's publishing year (2020), lol~
"Our Faith brings Perseverance, and Our Perseverance guides Justice, for Mercy to God." - The Court of Owls' beliefs circle around 3 principles bringing people closer to G*d: Faith, Perseverance, and Justice. Their belief hardens their persistence in their actions (as they are written and not guided by "Evil"), and their goals are ultimately to deliver justice where the human system failed and "Evil" prevailed in "escaping", hence the guiding of one principle to another. "Mercy to God" is what is granted by righting the injustices of the world; as G*d wrote your future down exactly, Evil can corrupt it, and once corrupted this does G*d a harmful injustice. The Court considers themselves close to G*d by "mercifully" stopping further corruption via eliminating "Evil" in all it's worldly formsā¦
Speaking of the 3 principles, our main Owls are meant to be "embodiments" of these in the story.
ā Talon Sonja Townsend represents Faith, driving home her belief in G*d's absolute destiny. She is corrupted by her own selfish goal of eliminating her son-in-law, but is also so by-the-book she does not think to look at the obvious double-standards of the Court, and doesn't think her underlying actions are guided by "Evil".
ā Talon Adam represents Perseverance, having fought Joker to unconsciousness, and was willing to blow up Arkham with himself still inside just to eliminate it; he is the most brainwashed, but the least corrupt in motivations, only striving to get what he feels is "justice". On the flip side of Adam is Talon Evan, who despite serious injury still appeared in Court and jumped at the chance to kill Joker and Batman, despite the Court's general appreciation of Batman; he is corrupt in personal selfishness, as he possesses no "real" faith in the Court's belief system and doesn't like others getting credit by stealing his targets.
Ā§ ...it's also worth mentioning that the names for Adam and Evan are meant to be derivative of "Adam and Eve". In this way, it can also be seen as a parallel to The Lovers card, which one can attribute to Bruce and John. While Bruce + John are oddly harmonious and undeniably have a strong bond regardless of story paths, Adam + Evan are discontent rivals, with Adam "stealing" Evan's target and good graces with the Court, and Evan very pointedly beating up and kidnapping Batman (who Adam admires) to set up Batman's eventual Judgement.
ā Reverend Sebastian Overfield is the main representation of Justice, though he embodies all 3 principles. The Courtās belief is that their pursuit of justice ā stopping Evil/chaos via deaths of criminals ā overrides their own traditional sins. Because they are being helpful to G*d, granting Them mercy by righting the injustices of Evil and putting G*dās Word back on the right path, they are in G*dās favor. Therefore, as the leader of the Court and the one who organized everything by handing down "God's word", he is the carrier of Justice; without him, the Court would be nowhere and G*d would be shedding more tears over their ruined workā¦at least, in his mind. Naturally, he is the exact opposite of what justice should be. He is biased and unwavering in strict faith, as much a carrier of chaos as he doesn't want to beā¦
ā Of course, this is all also up to interpretation. One can interpret Adam as "justice", Evan as "perseverance", and Sebastian as the stand-in for "God", as he is the Court's ruler and is the sole person to hand down "the word of God".
"[ā¦]if two people you normally count on for one reason or another" - Alfred made a subtle dig at John being Bruce's boy-toy. Ouch, Al'ā¦
"[ā¦]given it's your pet project, and all" - Even though Selina is talking about Arkham, she's making a dig at former-Arkham-resident John being Bruce's "pet", who in her eyes was Bruce's main reason for getting Arkham revitalized. :\ Man, everybody's picking on their relationshipā¦
petrichor - The smell proceeding rain. Because it's not a climactic fight scene in Gotham city without rain.
Ch. 11: The Tolls of Justice
[chapter title] - Naturally referring to the Justice card of the tarot, this title is the same as the story title. Funnily enough, this is the 11th chapter, and the 11th card in the tarot deck. (I guarantee you I did not plan this bitā¦ Funny how these things play out, ain't it?) The Justice card naturally stands for cause and effect, clarity, or truth; ultimately, it's a representation of karmic retribution, and what the Owls are in dire need of facing. The title overall is referring to both the [para]phrase "do not ask for whom the bell tolls, for it tolls for thee" (in the original context: a grievance over death for all out of love for community/mankind, not just one person) and the "toll" - as in cost or damage - of enacting justice. What Bruce has put himself through to become and keep being Batman, the enactor of vengeance for all those wronged in the city of Gotham, and what ultimately the Court of Owls has sacrificed - either wittingly or unwittingly - in the name of justice. It also extends to John, who for the sake of "justice" is routinely stuck in Arkham, in one way or another, and has never had a conceivably just or fair life at all - thus paying the unwilling toll opposing Bruce and the Owls. We can also extend it to Tiffany, who is making good on her work with Bruce to "pay her toll" for her own crime, with her toll being seen in a positive light as Robin, compared to what life sentence she might have been paying otherwise.
[the sword in the pulpit] - a symbolic reference to The Justice card, as the Justice card in the major arcana often depicts a sword, either alone or in someone's hand. This can also be interpreted as a reference to the Ace of Swords in the minor arcana, which is normally pointing upwards, referring to victory, truth, or ideas; when flipped, as it would be when looking at the initial depiction of the sword as a "cross", it stands for lies and confusion. The sword in the story itself is a symbol of justice, and uses snakes as the stand-in for the forces of Evil, which are destroyed by the owl making up the handle and supposedly wielding the blade.
"the skull peeking out of the knightās helmet" [card in the box on Reverend's desk] - A very clear reference to the Death card, famous in the tarot deck. It signifies change, inevitable cycles, and new beginnings/directions. Depending on the reading, it can be interpreted as an actual death, but more often than not itās merely showing of a life change. As this is the Reverendās deck, it seems the last card he drew was Deathā¦ The viewer can interpret this as a reading from the Reverend into the Arkham plot, where Death is representing Johnās own changes, the end of Talon Adamās latest ācycleā, or the actual deaths that had occurred (no matter how many there are in the end). The viewer can also read this as the Reverend trying to find his own fate, the fate of Roman Sionis for his trial, or Batmanās fate. All of them are quite valid, but I feel the most accurate interpretation is that the Rev' was trying to read the future of the Court of Owls.
ā ā¦as mentioned above, the Death card is the most overt reference to the Tarot. This way, if someone didn't piece together the weird chapter titles, the specified numbers and number-letter strings, and/or the odd names of people and places, they'd be able to double-back and see them as clues. They are put there purely as a storytelling clue for the audience. As you can tell, the tarot references increased with each chapterā¦almost like someone is trying to get your attentionā¦
[the framed painting] - a reference to The High Priestess, aka card II of the tarot. This card is indicative of intuition and looking within, and can signal to mysteries at hand or a higher power at work. The pillars on the card are (hilariously enough) marked with a B and J, and are in black and white, respectively. They stand for Boaz (Strength) and Jachin (Establishment), and are meant to represent the duality of nature, good/evil, masculine/femine, etc. Naturally, both pillars are equal. In this depiction, it is both relating to āthe playerāsā own duality, with the ability to be flexible as Bruce and John and have both good and bad decisions play through the story, and as a strong hint to a higher power being present.
8-9-6-3 [candle puzzle] - It takes a bit to work out by sorting through the alphabetic values to each number, but it doesnāt make a complete word. On ye olde phone keypad, 1 is always null in value, so itās always unlit in the candle sequence, and since there are 4 other numbers present we know it doesnāt count as part of the string. (If there were only 3, you could guess a year from your notes.) My idea for the āgameā specs of this part would be that the key-code would be somewhat randomized, either using a specific year (if Tiffany and/or Iman are not present, this is *always* the case, as you have to utilize your background notes and the candles by yourself), a few translated letter combinations just for fun, or an occasional number-card type combo, as presented here. (In some lucky scenarios, āthe playerā doesnāt have to solve the candle puzzle, since Tiffany can figure out the year by herself and just call you over when she opens the door. You still have the option of looking around, though!) In this case, the values are another tarot-themed hint, using the card number first: 8-w-n-d, for the 8 of Wands, which alludes to quick actions. AKA āGet ready for quick-time events!!!ā
"looking more like the king on the throne than a judge" - Meant to allude to The Emperor card, the ultimate royal symbol in the major arcana and always depicted with a king. Traditionally this symbolizes power, authority, control, etc., but when reversed it alludes to overbearingness, arrogance, and chaos. For the Owls, they would likely see themselves as the upright depictions, even when presented upside down before the person doing their readingā¦ And here is no better example, with the Reverend Overfield taking place as the ultimate authority over the Court.
"like [Sonja] had a say in commanding the room" - Alluding to The Empress, in conjunction with Revās position, this card alludes to femininity, motherhood, nurturing, creativity, and/or abundance. When reversed, it stands for neglect, creative blocks, overbearing, and/or uncaring. Sonja is a good example of an overbearing mother, trying to make decisions for her child because she thinks she knows best - thus fits the reversed reading well.
[Courtroom layout] - How curious is it that I haven't referenced The Devil when we have so many opportunities? That's because I strove to show this card rather than reference it overtly. The Devil card depicts El Diablo in the upper middle, lording over the card, with two souls chained to him at the bottom. The classic depiction shows a female demon-like human on one side and a male demon-like human on the other. As such, Rev. Sebastian sits on the high bench as the judge, overlooking the courtroom, and Sonja and Evan sit beneath him, one embedded on each side of the lower bench, sitting before him rather than beside him. Naturally, The Devil card represents temptation, manipulation, and materialism (though not necessarily of physical things). There is nothing more suited to The Devil card than the Reverend Sebastian Overfield and the Talons.
Circe | Cindy Peterson - Circe was the original Black Mask's downfall, or at least serious decent into who would be Black Mask. In her origin, she was a model who seduced Roman and ended up being blamed for his poor business choices, as he completely revolved Janus Inc.'s new direction around her image, somewhat at her insistence. Roman seemed to love her, but grew vengeful when she dumped him. She was named Circe, after the witch who lured men to their doom. In this story, she plays a much less active role but ultimately still serves as Roman's downfall, though in a very different way. : she does seem to care about Roman, going so far as to hide him on her yacht, not rat him out for his overt gang activities, and even leave Gotham with him for good to run from Batman despite not being in a relationship with him for long. But Bruce is able to spin this to his advantage, openly lying that she was working for him undercover and twisting Roman's affection for her into paranoid doubt, which he eventually lashed out with and ended up being caught because of. Circe never got a ~proper~ name in the original canon, so I dubbed her Cindy. The name "Cindy" can be boiled down to āperson from Kynthosā and since Circe is Greekā¦ Well, it fits well enough!
"[ā¦]waltzing into the danger-zone without his wingman" - Itās Top Gun's āYou can be my wingman anytimeā, but with ALL the homoerotic implications!
"the Degnah Club" - The Degnah Club can be inferred to be one of Roman Sionisā clubs, or just one his False-Face Society visited on occasion, but the event that happened there is implied to have taken place before the start of the story. āDegnahā when written backwards is āhangedā, referencing the Hanged Man card. When upright, this card means sacrifice and selfless acts. When reversed, as very much implied here, itās an unnecessary sacrifice. This is both a play on what Romanās implying ā which is likely a very violent event ā being an āunnecessary sacrificeā as part of Matt Chaneyās greater scheme for the Court of Owls, and as an allusion to Mattās fate, where his morals/good choices/old law-abiding life were thrown away for an inevitably failed pursuit.
"[Tiffany | Robin's] personal count of 13" - The 13th card in the tarot is Death, bringer of change and ender of cycles. Itās also a traditionally unlucky number. This number is the ābody-countā of Tiffanyās run through the Court so far. Does it reference the end of the Court's latest cycle, or something elseā¦?
Accompanying the Tarot, as mentioned earlier I also tied in other fortune-telling methods, with the counting of crows and reference to the zodiacal horoscope. I also threw in allusions to luck, with The Lucky Hotel and The Lot (in both name and the fact that it's a casino). This is all tied entirely around the concept of fate and being able to change it with the choices you have made or currently make as "the player". Luck itself has nothing to do with your choices and the fates you guide Bruce and John to, and it's not something "the player" can control - it's an illusion, with things seemingly lucky for our heroes having already been written in on purpose to lead to the next event. It's essentially a long, drawn-out joke.
Talons/Reverend's Owl Masks - I wanted the Talons to be set apart from the rest of the Court and have special owl faces. The Court's owl masks are as follows:
ā Talon Adam - Great Horned Owl; chosen for the owl's large size and hunting ability, as well as the protruding "horn" feathers mimicking Batman's cowl. This is the most common owl used in media. The "horns" are meant to clue the reader into the culprit early on. Adam's a Batman-fan, so he mimicked Bats' style.
ā Talon Sonja - Snowy Owl; chosen for the owl's fairly elegant feather pattern and Sonja's ~colder~ personality. Sonja had a masquerade one to show her "humane" side to prospective Owls, but always wears a full-faced mask for the rest of the Court.
ā Talon Evan - Barn Owl; chosen for it's ghost-like face and screeching call, and it's hunting skills. They sometimes are seen as bad omens. While Adam was a mysterious stalker, Evan is overtly dangerous upon appearance, in no due part to his temper.
ā Reverend Sebastian Overfield - Eastern Screech Owl; this owl is smaller than the other, but has similar "horn" feathers to the Great Horned, and a gray face. The "horns" are meant to be another a mirror to Batman, but can be considered another allusion to The Devil. It isn't the largest or flashiest owl of the bunch, but Sebastian has the most power of all the Court members.
[The "Justice" bell-toll] - traditionally, a church bell tolls to signify someone passing into death. In the Court/Church of Mercy's case, they use a bell rung at midnight to signify a complete "trial" and a carry-out of their own brand of "justice"ā¦which also culminates in death. The "trial" shown in this chapter is a rarity, as the offenders are actually present to get a talking-to before their sentencing - generally, the Church will hold a mock-trial to decide the fates of the perpetratorsā¦after some previous counseling with Talons and select older members. (Think of the Trial like a ceremonial conference for the majority of the time.)
Chapter 12: Ten Cheers to the World!
[title] - The act of cheering, aka toasting, is to raise a cup and drink towards someone or something in celebration or tribute. Here, it's referring to the tarot's Ten (X) of Cups, which is pretty much the best card you could pull in a reading - when upright, as it is here, it means celebration, fulfillment, and happiness! The World card is the final card in the Major Arcana, encapsulating completion, accomplishment, and harmony, all from inner and outer sources. It might seem redundant at first, but the Cups suite in the Minor Arcana is all in regards to emotions, relationships, and love; in comparison, the Major Arcana represents a journey from innocence and ignorance to wisdom and completion. So you have an emotional celebration with fulfilling relationships, and the story's path marked as complete in both a literal and figurative sense.
"An accident at Ace Chemicals" [Iman & John's convo] - Referencing the majority of Joker origins, wherein pre-Joker fell into the vat of chemicals at Ace Chemicals and survived, leading to a psychotic breakdown due to his changed appearance and/or the circumstances around to what led him to Ace Chemicals in the first place.
"the string of deaths in the Velestra mafia" [Iman & John's convo] - a ref to the former mafia/main antagonists in Batman: Mask of the Phantom that kept getting killed off one by one by the Phantom. Whether The Phantom exists in this worldā¦we'll have to wait and see, I guess!
"an unrecoverable ādata lossā at the Agency" [Iman & John's convo] - not a reference to canon, but my own theory on a potential background for John being a former Agentā¦(see further below)
"Et tu, Peeps?" - a riff on "Et tu, Brute?", Julius Ceasar's last words as he was betrayed and stabbed to death.
"Maybe I was someone in the wrong place at the wrong time" / "someone at the right place at the wrong time" [John monologue] - Another reference to the most popular background choice, the Ace Chemical origin story, and itās variations. Though probably lacking Batsyās involvement, considering the timeframeā¦
"Maybe I was some experiment gone wrong" [John monologue] - A reference to a different author's Season 3 replacement fanfic, where John ended up being a genetically modified human/test tube baby. Unfortunately the work got deleted from Ao3??? And my bookmark is gone, so I can't name the ficā¦ But I still remember you, Unknown Author!!! It was a fun story and I've never forgotten that twist!!!! \( >o< )/
"Maybe I was even an Agent, like you" [John monologue] - My own little theory as to why the Agency was so keen on getting him for the Suicide Squad ā and why he was considered a dangerous part of the gang despite not doing too much of interest in Season 1 (even if you consider the theory that he was helping Lady Arkham get her chemicals/drugs) ā was that he was part of the Agency somehow. Either an agent who screwed up on the job, a rogue agent that escaped death via Agency trapā¦or maybe a guy who knew too much! But it's a fun, fresh idea to bring to Joker's multi-choice past, right? (( ;w;)) <(please say yes)
hippocampus - The region(s) of the brain that primarily deals with memory.
[the photo] - I wanted to leave it up to the reader/"player" to decide what kind of pre-Arkham past the TellTale!Joker hasā¦ So whether you think the picture Iman has is a "real" photo of him or not is entirely up to you.
"[ā¦]'you're the moon to my sun'" [John, 'paraphrasing' Bruce] - In Tarot terms, this is a reference to the Sun card, representing joy, success, and masculinity, as well as another reference to the Moon card. One can also interpret the Sun card as "success in overcoming your obstacles or fears". As the Moon card can represent inner fears and femininity, it's a fitting opposite for interpreting this romantic line. While Bruce doesn't exactly embody the "positivity" and "joy" that this card represents, he brings that feeling into John's life, and Bruce is more traditionally masculine in contrast to John. This is also an overt use of the phrase "[they're] the moon to their sun" - a romantic notion that one person, though the opposite to the other, is completely complementary, like a One True Love. TeamFourStar's playthrough of TellTale Batman: The Enemy Within had not one, but TWO mentions of the "moon to [their] sun" line, the second of which was referring to John and Bruce. This one's for you, fellas!!! ( ^3^)
ā Funnily enough, The Moon is a very broadly interpreted card. Sometimes it's not a good card to have because deception, manipulation, illusion, and mystery/confusion are all potentially at work in your life. Sometimes it's an excellent card, because it tells you examine your feelings to resolve a problem, or tells you that you aren't seeing the whole picture. The reversed of the card is often attributed to avoidance of one's problems and further confusion, but also clarity, truth, and the full view of what's going on. If John is the embodiment of The Moon in the upright position, then I say Bruce is that of the Reversed Moonā¦
"[ā¦] two lovers against the world" - Another classic romantic phrase that can be turned into a Tarot reference. The original phrase is meaning two romantic partners are pitted against "the world"/external forces that threaten to tear them apart, but they are committed to each other regardless. You can't really pit cards against each other in a reading, but you can read Past-Present-Future. In which case, in story terms, The Fool is always the Past, The Lovers is the Present here, and The World is the Future. As mentioned earlier, The World represents harmony and completion - if reversed, it would mean incompletion and chaos. The Lovers card is representing a strong union being forged between two people, very often romantic in terms of the Tarot. The meaning is usually attributed to decisions in a relationship being made (whether to start a new one, or to deepen the one you have), but it can also represent people outright, as well as an indication that a new partnership/relationship is on the way. When reversed, Lovers represents disharmony, imbalance, or a loss of relationship. In our story, of course, our two lovers are representing the upright reading of the card in the Present, showing as a strong couple. As it's "against", it implies that The World is something that will be a challenge, so it's likely Reversed. Which is a pretty good representation of Gotham in general, isn't it? lol~
ā The Lovers can also be seen symbolically in chapters 8 and 9, when Bruce and John are laying opposite each other and linking pinkies/holding hands at the hotel. :)
ā John uses the romantic line regardless of whether he's a vigilante or not! If you didn't get the Best Ending, aka our Sleepover Ending, Bruce would wind up back in the parlor with John as usual, and once the rest of the fam are gone (if they were there at all), he uses it to describe themselves. In the villain route, Bruce and John converse in the Batmobile on the way back to Arkham, and John uses the line there, too. ;3c
ā Naturally, you don't really get this complete scene if "your" Bruce is with Selina in the vigilante route.
Ending Type - ā¦it's not a tarot reference or anything specific. I just wanted to let you know that you can ONLY get the Sleepover Ending if you have Tiffany and John in Bruce's party on good terms with each other AND with Bruce.
ā You can drive Tiffy away from Bruce by saying she shouldn't be with them at the Court Battle, but also by generally not believing in her/being mean and giving a neutral reaction to her staying during Battle; she won't go back to the cave with Bruce, so you don't get a chance to speak to her directly afterwards as either character. (John can still have his conversation with her via text, and they can still end on the same terms.)
ā If you don't have vigilante!John, there's no one else to help lift the things, so Tiffy's idea is never brought up.
ā John is always simping desperate for Bruce's attention, so even if you don't treat him as well in a platonic relationship, he'll still be there for this Ending type. ;_;
ā If you have a Romanced!Selina in your party, Selina will join you in both Court Battle and the Ending as seen in this story. It'll either cause her to take Iman's place (if she is not present) or to have extra spot suddenly appear above the rest of the group. Like Tiffy, she overheats and needs more space too cool off.
Ā§ You can also talk to her as John, and sort of makeup/say your part of the team now. (But John will still be somewhat jealous of the attention she gets.)
Ā§ John doesn't get the emotional hug with Bruce if Selina is around - especially since she doesn't temporarily leave with Tiffany and Iman - but the conversation is almost the same.
Ā§ Naturally you can talk to her as Bruce, too. I don't think on her options too much, but they'll likely talk about change and what it means to have this "job" and internalizing too much of their emotions/themselves.
Ā§ If you and Selina are only friends, Selina can join you in the Court Battle, but will text you instead of sticking around.
1:06 A.M & [Clock time on Belltower in Chapter 11] - Bruce's sense of time is off, which is why he's surprised it's after 1AM and not closer to 2AM. (Can't blame him, he was unconscious for a while and a whole bunch of stuff happened.) I figured if Bruce broke out of his kidnapping ropes at 10PM sharp, and drove all the way to the GCPD, that's about 20-30 minutes in his supercharged car, if not a little less, plus with 5 minutes to escape proper. If we think GCPD is sort of a halfway point to Old Gotham/The Coventry district, it's another 15 minutes to there. So he'd arrive at the Church of Mercy before 11PM, and wait John for around another 10-15 minutes, including with all the investigating inside. The "trial" scene probably took another 10 minutes until Batman crashed it, and fight scenes seem long because of all the action going on, but by the time Bruce and co' leave, it's not 12AM yet. The bell-tower in the Church of Mercy is actually off by about 20 minutesā¦ And what do you know, card XX (20) of the tarot's Major Arcana is Judgement, alluding to karma at work! It can also be attributed to a life change. ;D
"11:43:20PM" - this wasn't deliberately meant to allude to anything. It took the batfam about 2 minutes from the last toll to leave the church. Bells' tolling speed is varying between clocks and towers, but you can estimate about 30-45 seconds for a full twelve. If it rang at 11:40 exactly, thenā¦ugh, this is sounding like math homework.
Epilogue:
[Still a WIP, so will be updated after it's uploaded! Shouldn't have much, though! Saay, isn't there a Major Arcana card missing? (9v9) I wonder what that iiiiis~]
So that was [just about] all of them! I had a lot of fun weaving them throughout the story this time, especially with the story's themes! AtBoM didn't have as nearly as many, so they weren't really worth mentioning before.
I hope this was helpful to those of you who were interested in diving beneath the surface of BtTTS: TToJ~!
#ttoj#ttoj reference guide#telltale batman#batman the telltale series#tarot cards#I made it a goal to use all the Major Arcana!#fortune-telling#it took me a month to compile this whole guide#I had notes scattered between my Word doc and google doc#hopefully this wasn't too hard to read#even if no one got any of these i'm satisfied!#they were really fun to write!!#edit: corrected Eric's last name (my bad)
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The Tozer/Armitage Meta
Iāve taken a bit of a back-seat as of late but itās amazed me to see how much Tozer/Armitage has taken off. Maybe not in a huge way but itās really something seeing folks I donāt even know discussing it!
To commemorate, I thought Iād make a āmasterpostā of sorts that gathers up the various things that I and my various partners in analytical crime (most notably my good friend Harvey @rhavewellyarnbag who is the better half of much of this analysis) have said about them.Ā
Note: Some of these posts are months old and contain certain ideas Iāve changed my mind on but I still think that theyāre important overall and, as a whole, my thoughts have remained consistent.
Who IS Armitage, anyway? - as well as a recent summary of my thoughts on Armitage as a character, I also talk a lot about his relationship to Tozer, so itās a good jumping-off point!
Armitage tried to help Tozer save Heather at Carnivale and, failing this, saved Tozer from himself by dragging him to safety against his will - this is easy to overlook because of how quick the shots are while it happensĀ but itās one of the most important moments of Tozer and Armitageās relationship. It summarizes both of their characters perfectly: Tozer is full of love, loyal to a fault, and doesnāt want to leave anyone behind while Armitage will stop at nothing to keep Tozer safe, even if it means risking his own life in the process.
I suggest that Armitage may have grabbed Tozerās slops for him when the mutiny left in ep 8 and then find potential evidence - this oneās a little goofy because thereās no way to definitively prove it and it doesnāt matter at all but I like it anyway.
The above suggestion about Tozerās slops somehow leads to profound discussion about Armitage and Tozerās relationship between Harvey and myself - yes there are two parts to this... We like to talk okay? Discussion of how Tozer views Armitage, Armitage saving Tozer from Little in ep 8, and Hickey being a little shit, in various contexts.
I confirm that Tozerās slops pre- and post-mutiny are the same pair which leads to further discussion about how Armitage is in love with TozerĀ - this is really some downright beautiful stuff from Harvey... I got emotional rereading it. Discussions about shame, fear and how Armitage transcends those things.
Armitage looked personally distressed while standing in the crowd by the gallowsĀ - these just upset me. tfw the man you (secretly) love is about to be executed for something that is just as much your fault and thereās nothing you can do about it.Ā
Regarding Armitageās relationship to Tozer and recurring motifs - yet more fun discussion between Harvey and I! Once again, Harvey sums it up better than I could ever dream to. Discussion about how Armitage only wants to save Tozer but is doomed to fail.
Regarding The Terror and gender roles... and Armitage being in love with Tozer - a post from another dear friend @fate-motif with further discussion from Harvey about... pretty much everything. Contains my favorite quote to come out of all of this:Ā āHickeyās calling Armitage āPrivateā seems a kind of answer to Hickey referring to Gibson as his wife. Gibson, another steward, went outside of his class to be with Hickey. Itās more subtle, but more literal in Armitageās case: Armitage took Tozerās name.ā (Bless you, Harvey - I think of this always.)
Some very basic thoughts on Armitageās actions in ep 10 - this was pretty much just me getting my thoughts in order awhile back but I still subscribe to this understanding and I think itās important. Alternate title: Why Armitage Didnāt Just Give Tozer His Goddamn Gun When He Asked.
Tozer and Armitage are both touchstarved and thatās enough justification to ship them all on its own - exactly what it says on the tin. Lovely tags from the lovelyĀ @henrycollins.
On that note, Armitage grabs Tozer around the waist as he joins the tackle-pile at Strongās birthday party in ep 4 - literally cannot make this shit up.
Bamboozling Edward Little Together Is Something That Can Be So Personal - this has become somewhat of a meme at this point and I could not be more proud. I made this gifset just before I finally felt confident enough to start discussing Tozer/Armitage publicly so it means a lot to me.
Thereās probably a lot more excellent stuff out there but this is all I can be bothered to dig up for the moment and I feel like this covers it pretty well!Ā
In summary:
#thomas armitage#solomon tozer#armitozer#the terror#the terror amc#i'm VERY excited about this!!!#having it all in one place feels so nice and rereading all of it to make this was the sweetest trip down memory lane#what phenomenal discussions we've had... i feel so blessed to have such incredibly intelligent friends!#idk if this'll actually be of interest to anybody else but at the very least i'm happy about it!#and that's the important thing#i've been working on this for four hours good Lord#GOOD NIGHT#<3
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