#like genuinely. how is Lucanis even a spiteful person? do we see him be spiteful at any point? đ
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If you think about it, itâs kind of crazy that Lucanis is the character hosting Spite instead of Viago. Like, Viago is made of spite. When his father gives him the option to either leave the country or become an assassin, Viago is his sole bastard child to choose to join the Crows. He withstands the torture/training, is so paranoid that he drinks poison to build his own immunity, and works up the ranks until heâs more powerful than the King. He might even make a play for the throne? Thatâs being fuelled by spite.
Like I love Lucanis, but you canât tell me Viago hosting Spite wouldnât be super interesting for both of their characters.
#viago is arguably more spiteful than spite himself#viago de riva#spite dragon age#dragon age#dav#like genuinely. how is Lucanis even a spiteful person? do we see him be spiteful at any point? đ
#I can see why spite would be frustrated lmao
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Honestly Iâve always seen Bloodbath (or the kill Zara quest) as Illarioâs final desperate attempt to be swayed form his plan. It kind of reminds me of Solas and Varricâs note of him in the beginning of the game âhe just needs someone to give him a different optionâ
Like Illario is genuinely upset about this whole thing. He thought Lucanis was dead, and we see that he was such a chronically depressed alcoholic yapper after Lucanisâ death that even though he did give the hit, he at least regretted it or it didnât sit well with him. (I have no doubt Zara manipulated him to some extent into it, since she has her eyes on Lucanis after the Wigmaker job anyway, but neither Zara or Illario are actually explored in game). But when Illario is taking us to the boat, he makes note of saying Catarina didnât tell him because âI would have tried to save him.â The way he says that line is in a COMPLETELY different tone than anything else he says. Itâs stern and to the point, not condescending like after Illario takes out Zara and talks down on Lucanis, telling him heâs a danger and liability.
If Illario knew Lucanis was actually alive, he probably would have killed Zara earlier. And Zara obviously KNEW THIS because she didnât tell Illario Lucanis was ALIVE for that very reason. Illario never knew about Spite. He never planned for the Ossuary. He never meant for that to happen! Zara knew that whatever Illario and she had going on would never even be close to the bond Lucanis and Illario have, and Illario would put that over power every single time.
Almost every single time.
Because he knows what he did, and he still goes out for coffee with Lucanis and the weirdo rando that saved him. And then he tries to convince Lucanis to stay away from Zara, because he knows that Zara is capable of and how not only she can, but has hurt Lucanis. (She turned his big brother into an abomination!)
WAIT A MINUTE WHO ELSE DOES THAT? Lucanis does! Except Lucanis is more direct about it. Says that Zara might come after him. Illario tries to convince Lucanis sheâs in fuckass land, get him out of the situation ENTIRELY involving Antiva, the Anntam, First Talon. Yeah, thereâs probably a selfish motivation, but in Wigmaker Illario is so fucking scared Lucanis is going to essentially fling himself off a cliff, thereâs a genuine âheyy can you take a holiday? Can you stop being passively suicidal for me, your little cousin? Can we stop with the âdeath is my callingâ shit?â
Of course Illario canât just go âuhh Iâll take care of it dw broâ because to Lucanis the beef with Illario and Zara isnât merely as personal as he (and Spites) beef with her. They really just want to protect one another and get their dues.
Illario killing Zara wasnât so much for him. I mean she kind of played him, but whatever, it didnât necessarily affect Illario in anyway, it was for Lucanis. A way to try and appease the guilt of something that he never intended to happen to his older brother. Thatâs why Illario wants to be there during Bloodbath. âItâs Crow businessâ aka âWHY ARE YOU TAKING WEIRDO RANDO 1 & 2 OVER ME? I deserve to be at your side, Iâll follow you to the ends of the earth and back, why wonât you let me anymore?â
So Illario meets Lucanis and his rando friends on the rooftop. Lucanis asks him what heâs doing there- and Illario says he wants to go. Heâs so desperate to go, to prove his alliance to his big brother cousin. But thatâs not all. Lucanis has been gone for a year, and then left immediately. Killing and missions, being Crowâs is one of the main ways Lucanis and Illario bond.
Illario has never felt good enough. For his grandmother, for Lucanis, for anyone. Thatâs why he started this mess. Zara tells him Lucanis doesnât think heâs good enough, he never will be, until he does the most Crow thing ever and cuts him out of the family line. Then finally, maybe, when his cousinâs eyes are glassy and corpse empty, will they be filled with approval.
But Lucanis is right here (with two randos)! And Illario asks him to involve him, just looking for that smidge of approval. And Lucanis says no. Ok. Cool! Maybe he just wants you safe. Fine, whatever. But youâre capable- at least you think you are.
So you ask the damning question. âYou think Iâm not good enough?â
And your cousin, your big brother, simply says: âAre you?â
While surely a good natured jab from Lucanis as siblings do, had Lucanisâ answer been anything even close to praise or more concern, I think Illario wouldâve been fine to step out of the way. ALL he needed was Lucanisâ mild assurance/approval. Just a âoh no, youâre good enough. I just donât want you getting hurt is allâ
But he doesnât say that. He simply feeds into the very insecurity that sent Illario to selling him out, the very one that Zara told him but he never quite believed until the words came from Lucanisâ mouth. âYouâre not good enough to stand by my side anymore.â And potentially âIâve replaced you with rando 1 & 2, I donât need you anymoreâ
So then he doubles down. No more playing nice cousin or big brother little brother. If Lucanis doesnât want Illario by his side anymore- fuck it, Illario doesnât need him. Lucanis saying Illario isnât good enough isnât just a blow to his ego, or self confidence/self esteem, itâs a flat out rejection. So he takes the kill from Lucanis, and essentially tells him to get the fuck out of dodge or else, and then tries to strong arm first Talon.
Lucanis never quite gives Illario âthe different option.â Illario throws their bond away not because he necessarily wants to, but because he thinks Lucanisâ threw it away first, and that heâs just folding onto a frayed rope (not even mentioning how Illario crosses out Lucanisâ name in the family line, showing how he just⌠almost doesnât exist. Heâs gone to Illario. Illarioâs so hurt by everything he just wants Lucanis gone at this point, come hell or high water.)
Lucanis quite literally says that the only way Catarina would be proud of Illario is if he kills her, and if that extends to Lucanis, so be it.
#yapping#illario dellamorte#dragon age lucanis#lucanis dellamorte#dragon age the veilguard#da veilguard#hey bro youâve been in jail for a year wanna hang out#no lol#why#bc you kinda suck haha look I brought two new friends I donât need you anymore#of course this is not what Lucanis means and he completely means well#but especially in that Bloodbath mission I was like uh why canât he come with us#and then Lucanis drops âare youâ uh not that time wiseass#heâs crashing out#look at him look at his fuckass hair cut#like dude Iâd kinda crash out too#sorry if this doesnât make sense but it makes sense to me#TDLR; âdude just wants his family to like him and he feels like he isnât even good enough for that so he resorts to murder
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