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sassysnowperson · 3 years

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writer's meme - TY to @r0b0tb0y for the tag!

How many works do you have on AO3?

168 - oh man that's more than I'd realized. I passed 150 and didn't even notice!

What’s your total AO3 word count?

1,133,901

So many.

How many fandoms have you written for and what are they?

Since r0b0tb0y and I were just talking about this, I conveniently have a list of all 20 ranked by number of works

134 - Star Wars 7 - Original Works 7 - Marvel 2 - Pirates of The Carribean 2 - The Old Guard 2 - Discworld 1 - Good Omens 1 - Leverage 1 - The Good Place 1 - Avatar: The Last Airbender 1 - Ocean’s 11 1 - Harry Potter 1 - The Goblin Emperor 1 - Gundam Wing 1 - Star Trek: TNG 1 - Hades (Videogame) 1 - Sailor Moon 1 - Russian Doll 1 - Mummy/Wonder Woman crossover

What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

Lol, looking at my top five - it falls into two categories

1. Fics I wrote right at the height of a fandom's popularity that got a massive reader boost because it was the Hot Thing Right Then

2. Star Wars Fix-Its

A Series of Better Decisions - A Padme/Obi-Wan/Anakin SW Prequel Trilogy fix-it where Anakin talks to Obi-Wan and spends Revenge of the Sith in a stressed-out bisexual panic instead of becoming a Space Fascist. He winds up fake-poly-dating Obi-Wan to try to bring down Palpatine, and eventually winds up in a better place due to the power of Quitting Your Job and becoming a househusband.

Galactic Response Time - Captain Marvel - an at the time MCU canon-compliant gen fic that ran the universe forward and explained how Carol really TRIED to show up for all those other crises that happened, but it turns out most of the major MCU disasters only lasted like three days and space is real big, y'all. Featuring Nick Fury cathartically bitching with his Space Bestie.

New Lands for the Living - Fix-it where the sequel trilogy ends Even Worse, Poe goes back in time to mercy-kill the timeline, and much to his dismay winds up married to just-before-Original-Trilogy Luke Skywalker. He has an existential crisis about his own existence, meets some competent women, and starts fixing things.

Life's Little Pleasures - The Good Omens fic where I put all my ace feelings, featuring metaphysical bonding and good scotch.

Flustered - Another Padme/Anakin/Obi-Wan SW Prequel Trilogy fix-it, where Order 66 never happens. Anakin gets some therapy and Padme gets a horrible crush on Obi-Wan.

Do you respond to comments, why or why not?

I do! I love getting to talk to people about fics, and I so appreciate people making the effort to comment I want to spend some time with them! It's so much easier not to comment, I know.

What’s the fic you’ve written with the angstiest ending?

Hmmm this is not my normal wheelhouse. I usually go angst that gets resolved by the end. Let me look to see what the options are.

Okay, I think we've got two contendors: In Waystation an exhausted Poe Dameron crash-lands in a station where a Bodhi Rook that lived and then hid now lives with Baze and Chirrut. There is a little epilgue that implies they're going to meet again, but the bulk of the fic does end with Poe making the decision to go back to the Resistance, and leaving Bodhi behind. Still, I think it's more wistful, rather than angsty.

Time Enough for Mourning takes it though, I think. Davits Draven/Antoc Merrick, that is entirely about Draven mourning the fact that Antoc has died. The end is still, I think, more cathartic than angsty, but it is overall probably the strongest "break out the waterworks" of my fics.

Do you write crossovers? If so what is the craziest one you’ve written?

I do occasionally, usually when someone prompts me and I find something in there that makes my brain go!!! I think the strangest is probably The Face Underneath. It's a Cassian Andor/Elim Garak fic where I drag Garak into the Star Wars Universe for a triple drabble series where he is an old mentor of Cassian's.

Have you ever received hate on a fic?

Mmm, not proper hate. Realtalk, the most devastating one for me was when I posted a fic that the only comment was a spelling critique.

And yes, there was a spelling error, but still, very crushing to have that be the only feedback. (It has since found a few readers that said nice things, very healing :D)

Do you write smut? If so what kind?

Yes! Uh - consensual, between adults, often M/M adults, tho I have written explicit femslash, hetfic, and poly piles. It's usually affectionate, often plays with power dynamics even if it doesn't go into full dom/sub.

Have you ever had a fic stolen?

Not that anyone has made me aware of, I've never looked.

Have you ever had a fic translated?

Had a request or two, but never been linked the result - so not sure if it didn't happen or if I just didn't get linked. I welcome it!

I have had several fics podficced, and I LOVE that. What a joy! Making a blanket permission statement that allowed podfic is one of the best decisions I've made as a fic author. Suddenly, Podfic!

Have you ever co-written a fic before?

Once or twice! I like the idea of doing it, but follow-through is hard. Hoping to do some co-writing soon though, so we will see!

What’s your all time favourite ship?

Sorry, unrepentant multi-shipper here. I like possibilities, and finding the story that will bring people together, more than one specific thing.

What’s a WIP that you want to finish but don’t think you ever will?

I don't have ANYTHING I've given up on, but there are a few fics in my unpublished drafts that were beautiful ideas, and really struggled to become contained stories. They all want to be sprawling things, and I have not felt sprawling-thing-writing passionate about those ideas. But, you never know! Inspiration may strike.

What are your writing strengths?

I'd say character voice, along with that, dialogue. Also humor moments that still have real weight and don't undercut the story, as well as straight comedy writing.

What are your writing weaknesses?

You see, I, uh, do this thing where I don't really end a sentence - I think about ending it, I even assume, at some point while I'm writing that I have ended it; I have not and it meanders, persistently, until I have constructed a whole paragraph made out of one chain of words and a hodgepodge of punctuation.

Also the thing where I accidentally use an unusual word five times in one paragraph because my brain has grabbed onto it like an excited puppy and keeps offering it up as the Perfect Word.

What are your thoughts on writing dialogue in other languages in a fic?

I love having multilingual characters. When writing, I tend to keep all the words in English and use dialogue tags to denote language shift - unless I am inventing the language, or have a speaker of that language willing to beta the bits to make sure I don't mess them up too badly.

What was the first fandom you wrote for?

Actually wrote and posted? Rogue One.

Fandom of my heart my younger self spun out stories in my imagination about? Where if I had my own computer and easy access to a fic archive they almost certainly would have become spectacularly earnest fics?

ReBoot and Sailor Moon. The Sailor Moon was an AU that took place on the sun and they all had kick-ass horses. Baby Sass knew what was up.

What’s your favourite fic you’ve written?

Nope, sorry, can't pick, love them all in different ways for different reasons.

Tagging: @semisweetshadow, @anamelesstraveler, @jules-of-the-crown - and generally if you follow me and want to do it, do so and tag me in it!

#fic talk #about the writer #long post #text post

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redtamalito · 4 years

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Alright, as a Logan stan, I’m here to call out the other Logan stans

Most of you advocate for “self care” and “hydrate or diedrate” but you’re so worried about other people, you forget about yourself.

you either live off of : Logan Angst or Logan Fluff.

you dont know how to process negative emotions, mostly because no one ever taught you how

c h a o t i c

usually plays the role of the “dumb” friend because they underestimate themselves

and are conflicted when people dont take them seriously when you want them to, like “why wont you take me seriously? oh right i established my role here”

follow up to ^^ if you do have a planned out thought you probably end it with, “but haha what do i know? dont take me seriously XD”

your vocabulary ranges from: “haha big dumy but not thicc” to “its a shame that human species evolved so that you could have a mouth”

you probably are an artist, and always end in burnout/art block bc of pushing yourself over the limit

if someone makes you mad, you go “blocked and reported”

after discovering you were a logan stan, you tried to change things of yourself so that when you told other people, they wouldnt question it

you prob hate any ship with the “light sides”

still a casual logince shipper tho

poly ship with logan, remus, and janus? your SHIT

you probs aren’t even attracted to men, but will fight to the death that Logan is the sexiest side

in your mind, Orange-side Logan is canon

a new ep is hinted: Logan stans: is this the episode where logan s n a p s?

you probably were a Roman or Patton stan then realized that Logan was like RIGHT THERE

analogical was your OTP for like 5 weeks

fanfics were the sides are mean to logan and he snaps? YOUR JAM

you really like greek mythology

probably runs a meme page

still uses emoticons

you project SO MUCH ONTO LOGAN-

you get sad if you think of something funny, text it to a group chat/friend, and you dont get the response you wanted

gave up on school when you entered middle school

you give really good advice but never use that advice in that in your day-to-day life [advice inculudes, relationship, self-care, mental health and other things]

Logan Stans: “consume nothing but one glass of water and nutri-valley bar’ also Logan Stans:self care :D

out of all the side tracks, you prob only have logans saved, and maybe remus’ and janus’

you listen to logans sidetrack while doing workhomework

and last one to call every logan stan out: you were the overachiever in elementary/middle school with a really high reading level- but now youre kind of illiterate and kind of are failing all ur classes because progressively as you got older- people stopped caring, and so did you OR you probably snapped from the pressure and gave up

Overall: someone help us, some of us just need validation and some of us need to learn how to un-link our self-worth from what we create

plz note that these arent inherently every single stan- people are all different, these are just my experiences ive had and people ive met who are ALSO logan stans- plz dont attack me :]

also plz let me know if i need to tag something- ill gladly do so :D

#logan sanders #ts logan #it's logan sanders stan hours #logan sanders stans #sander sides #long post #janus mention #remus mention #roman mention #patton mention #virgil mention #tw food #tw swearing #tw cursing #logan

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artsybi · 3 years

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because i end up basically writing fan fiction of my own projects when i’m procrastinating on said project if i ever manage to actually publish something, i will one hundred percent have an ao3 account on which i write fanfic for my own shit

maybe i’ll even like, make reference to fanfic during like, an interview or something, like making reference to the fact that i’m active on ao3 or just in the fandom community in general and watch as the fandom loses it

and i’d one hundred percent be active in the fan community, no matter how small, just like, making fandom friends and shit, it’d be so fun to see what ships rise to the top and what headcanons become super popular in fandom spaces for my characters

and like, with ships especially because in two of the main projects i’m currently working on all the main characters are some flavor of bi/pan (and a secondary protagonist from one who might end up as a main character because i like her is a poly lesbian) with one focused around two guys and two girls and the other around two girls and one guy so, like, i’m two hundred percent leaving the door wide open for shippers to have their ways with them

in one project actually i have a whole thing with two of the characters being “dating but not really” and they’re literally fake dating in canon to get their parents off their back, and if that’s not fandom bait i don’t know what is

see this is the problem, like i have all these dreams of people falling in love with my characters the same way i’ve fallen in love with so many in the past but actually writing is so hard, so i just daydream about a hypothetical fandom space for my writing (and i wonder what “hot takes” born of misunderstanding fundamental parts of both character and story would arise) then i have to remind myself that it doesn’t exist and might not ever exist because writing is hard as fuck y’all

like i want to read all the bad and out of character au’s, and i want to see who runs the tattoo parlor and who owns the flower shop, and i want to see fan art, and i want to know about everyone’s interpretations of my characters and i want to know what small reference from one of them will become integral to their personality in fandom, and i want people to love these characters the same way that i love them, but for that i have to actually write, and actually finish something, and actually get it published and etc etc etc and it’s such a laundry list

like i don’t even want to be famous or anything, i don’t care about that and i wouldn’t want to be shoved into the spotlight, but i want people to get a chance to get to know all my characters, i want them to sympathize with tara, laugh with ava, roll their eyes with luke, smile with rachel, get exasperated with alex, fight side by side with kai, hunt with indie, pity jaz, hell, i want them to stand by rosie, rebel with em, stay strong with kat, run with micky, i want them to know these characters, and these worlds i have constructed in my head, i want them to be able to lose themselves in these stories and characters

i want to see my characters through a fandom’s eyes, and i want to know what crossovers get written, i want to know what hogwarts house everyone gets assigned and why, i want to know what crack ships are fan favorites, i want to know what percy jackson cabin the fandom thinks they fit, i want all the stupid au’s, i want to see all the high school and college au’s, hell, who studies what at college, i want to scroll through a tag on tumblr, or ao3, hell, wattpad, and be able to think to myself that, hey, i wrote that source material

and i want

i just desperately want to know what people think of these pieces of me that i’ve molded and given names, how they get characterized

like kai, is he the fandom “uwu soft boy” because he has anxiety? or is he the fandom badass because he’s known for getting into fights? (and how many au’s take away the fact that he’s mute?)

is indie the cool and stoic rebel who smokes and wears all black and combat boots? or is she dangerously reckless and self-destructive? or is she just the fandom slut because she flirts and sleeps around? (and how often are her unhealthy coping mechanisms turned into mere personality traits?)

does rachel get pegged as the fandom’s “literal sunshine child has never done anything wrong ever”? or is she seen as boring in comparison to the other characters? (and how much of her symbolism gets caught?)

is ava the “soft uwu bby girl who must be protected at all costs”? or is she just a bitch who pokes her nose into things that don’t involve her because she stands up for people? (and how often does the fandom forget she needs glasses? how often do they forget she’s a star runner?)

is luke just the book smart source-of-important-information? or is he cold and calculated because he knows how to use a gun? (and how often is the fact that most of his family is alive get glossed over?)

is tara a cold bitch who keeps too many secrets and hides things from those close to her? or is she self destructive and half-suicidal because of all her trauma? (and how often is she a demon in au’s?)

is alex just the dad-friend and nothing more? or is he cast aside and forgotten because he seems boring compared to his far more traumatized peers? (and how often is the fact that he’s a star sports player forgotten?)

is jaz simplified down to “cold shallow rich bitch who only cares about appearances”? or is she seen as heavily traumatized and very mentally ill? (and how are her parents seen, are they the fandom’s john winchester, or are they just forgotten and shoved to the side?)

i desperately want to know how these characters are seen, and even simplified down by a fandom game of telephone, leaving only their most recognizable traits

what color is every character assigned? is jaz gold as i intended? does ava get pastel pink? is alex green? is kai gray or orange? is tara maroon-y purple? does indie get black? is luke dark yellow or blue? does rachel get strawberry blonde?

what’s their most recognizable outfit or accessory? is it ava’s sweets skirt, kai’s hoodie? alex’s sports jersey, jaz’s fake nails? indie’s gun holster and black canvas jacket, tara’s combat boots? luke’s hoodie, rachel’s sneakers?

what fanwork gains a fandom of its own? is it super angsty like twist and shout(which i have not read)? or is it soft and almost hopeful the way not easily conquered is? is it a heavy au, or is it simply canon divergent?

who are the fan favorites? and who gets brushed to the side in favor of said fan favorites? who’s always wildly out of character, and who stays true to their original form?

what’s the fandom as a whole like? is it wildly toxic or mostly okay? how common are blow-out ship wars? what are the ship wars like? are there ships that stay on the sidelines? which ones start shit the most often? how many people just say “fuck it” and go poly to avoid that shit?

what questions would fans ask at like, panels or during an ama or something? i dream up questions people might ask sometimes, mostly to try and practice explaining things that i feel might be misinterpreted, but what would they really care about?

i know all of this is a pipe dream, books don’t gain the same notoriety on tumblr as tv shows and movies do, percy jackson and harry potter are stark exceptions but i have no hope that i’ll write something half as culturally relevant as either of them, but i dunno, i just think about it sometimes, and i wonder, and i want.

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thatlittledandere · 4 years

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 31 and 40 for that shipper ask meme (sorry for picking so many but those questions are GOOD)

You're right, they absolutely are. I'm sorry in advance that this is gonna be LONG and I'm on mobile so I can't even add a read more;;

1. Talk about the first ship you ever had

So I'm SURE there were relationships I was invested in in movies and cartoons I watched as a child (I've always been a sucker for romance, even though there was that period when I didn't want to admit it) but I can't remember anything from very far back;; So it was either Ron and Hermione from Harry Potter or Ichigo and Masaya from Tokyo Mew Mew, whichever I read first.

2. Talk about three of the most important ships throughout your life

GOSH. You can't do this to me. I guess Romione because it was the time in my preteens when I was becoming more aware of... stuff, in general, abs the two cemented my love for friends-to-lovers. Then Ioryuu, because I've never been AS invested in and passionate about a ship before and likely never will. Nothing can compare to that intensity and ngl I miss it;; I miss the genuine hype I felt in my heart that made me interact with people and make things. So many things. I honestly can't think of a third one with such a lasting impact, sorry;;

3. What's your current OTP?

I imagine Souyo scenarios in my head every night before falling sleep and every morning after waking up, this is not a joke not an exaggeration. I still feel a little traitorous saying this on tumblr but their dynamic IS somewhat similar to the way I see Ioryuu so-

4. What's your current NoTP?

I don't think I have one? I have dislikes, some of them strong, but I don't see any of them often enough to be, like, actively angry. I have better uses for my time than willingly exposing myself to stuff I don't like.

5. Do you have any poly ships?

Not generally, juggling two characters is enough work lol. The only poly ships I've ever really actively shipped are Niels, Duncan and Natalie from the web comic Niels And the Gang by humon and Kinatsuen from Boueibu, but neither are actively on my mind much these days.

8. Have you ever shipped yourself with a character?

BOY HAVE I EVER. I've seen someone on tumblr have a side blog for self-shopping and not gonna lie, it's an excellent idea. My late teens were spent reading character x reader fics on Quotev and I started my fic career with the same genre. I don't really know what to do with myself when I DON'T actively ship myself with a character, which is my state of being now that Yosuke surpassed Yoosung as my favorite character;; Ibushi and Yoosung are the biggest ones but man oh boy I have shipped myself with characters from early age and I'm showing no signs of stopping! There's a reason that I main dating sims.

15. Have you ever "shipped at first sight"?

Not for long. I SUCK at forming first impressions. Usually if I start thinking I'll ship something, I end up not being so invested in it after all, and instead shipping something I swore off at first lmao. Which leads us to...

16. Talk about a ship you initially disliked

As a rule of thumb, all of them. I don't understand HOW it keeps happening but somehow almost all the ships I truly care/d about (that I didn't start shipping through osmosis before knowing them in the source material) started out as something I thought I "wouldn't be able to get behind." Gajevy. Shikatema. Sasunaru. Doctor/Rose. Karabita. Atsutodo. Kiribaku. Yoozen. Enatsu. Freaking IORYUU. EVEN SOUYO. IT'S BEEN YEARS I REALLY SHOULD KNOW THE PATTERN BY NOW

17. Talk about a pairing you've stopped shipping romantically

Like, I started to think they're better as friends after all? I guess NaLi. Then again, I mostly only shipped them out of spite in the first place because I wanted a counter for N/a//Lu, which I never liked at all;;

20. Talk about a ship you feel alone in shipping

Now this time I can say for sure that there isn't one. I can't come up with ships myself and stay on board if there isn't content for it, canon or otherwise;; It's not a conscious decision or anything, it's just how my mind works. I get attached to stuff by exposure, whether from fans or the source material, and if the source material has enough content for two characters for me to pick up on and become interested, it's guaranteed to be enough to become a somewhat popular ship.

21. Is there a ship you just don't get, but have nothing against?

Actually... That's the extent I go to with notp'ing these days. I'm passionate about the right to ship whatever you want so by proxy I can't have anything "against" a ship, even if the sheer thought of it existing makes me nauseous. And I know how to think from points of view other than my own, so I can usually see the appeal, even if it appeals to me personally less than eating dog shit while walking barefoot on rusty nails that are also on fire.

That said, the only ships I have on my Tumblr blacklist are Yoo//ra/n and Suza//lu/lu because they're both popular ships for characters whose tags I am/was following and therefore get suggested a lot even if I want following anyone who ships then. Oh, and all B/LMa//tsu ships! I generally can't feel good about incestuous ships, but can and will fight for their shippers' right to do as they please as long as they stay respectful. (never saw blmatsus who weren't respectful. saw a plethora of anti-blmatsus who were absolute demons. actually the reason i moved away from the last remnants of my anti mindset was that i didn't want to be associated with THOSE anti-blmatsus, when the shippers they wanted dead were all such sweet people. food for thought.)

22. Which of your ships have the best chemistry?

All of them?? Lmao I don't understand this question, isn't shipping all about liking the chemistry between characters? Or the potential for it I guess, in which case the chemistry is whatever you want it to be, which is great B) I'm sorry I keep accidentally dodging questions I'm bad at choosing examples from a long, unordered list

23. Which of your ships deserve better writing?

Hhhhhhh I shipped Jerza for years and was still unsatisfied with their ending, Jellal didn't get to heal enough and we didn't really see them working through their past in an effective way and getting comfortable around each other. It's like they were supposed to be friends to enemies to lovers but the last part didnt really develop and their relationship stagnated at the stage were they were both just permanently awkward out of regret, and couldn't bring themselves out of it even though everything was forgiven forever ago. Or I've forgotten a lot of stuff that happened. Very likely. Is your a case of bad writing or good writing not working out the way I wanted it to? You're asking the wrong person.

25. Have you ever shipped a pairing before you even started watching the show/movie simply because of gifs/graphics or similar?

EYUP. Harumichi was my otp for like a whole year before I saw a single episode with them lol. It was crazy, but it was REAL. I've also went into shows already paying attention to things I knew my friends/people I follow shipped, kind of hoping I'd get into it.

26. Have you noticed a pattern in your shipping? Is there a romantic dynamic I'm writing these questions down from screenshots and I cropped the rest of this one out by accident rip

Eeeh I go for the obvious. Best friend pairs, obvious pining, some rivalry with sexual tension, though I don't really know what to do with those. Then there's the fact that I never see it coming sick Persona 5 reference bro and start shipping the couple I thought "should just be friends" at first. This is more about my relationship to the ships than their dynamic but it's very constant...

27. Is there a ship you've shipped for most of your life?

Hmmm well I got into HP and started shipping Romione sometime in mid elementary school so it's definitely been more than half my lifetime since, but I don't really know if I "ship it" anymore. I didn't start disliking them or anything but for me, "shipping" is an active intrest in a fictional relationship, so if it reaches the stage where I like it, in theory, but I don't have the feels, it doesn't really count. That's why I can say I like ships without shipping them. It's gotta be actively on my brain, man.

31. Talk about one of your favorite headcanons for a ship you love

I haven't mentioned Kannao once, which is criminal. So here's some of what I imagine their future to be like :D I've been getting new Persona followers recently so here's something for you to unfollow me over lmao

So first of all I ignore the canon that Naoto goes back to the city for her detective work after her first year of high school, shhh she stays in Inaba, only taking the occasional jobs. She and Kanji start dating during the spring break before their second year and get more comfortable with each other, so that the next summer they're still cute and very much themselves (which means somewhat reserved) but not as awkward anymore :) I haven't thought about what happens after they graduate but they get married in their early 20s and have a son <3 (Chie and Yukiko adopted their daughter only slightly earlier. They may or may not have had a bit of a competition going on) ((yes Souyo are very much together but if they end up having children I haven't thought about it it's later))

Kanji manages the textile shop and Naoto helps when she's free from detective stuff. They live in Inaba but Naoto is away quite often for her gigs;; She takes up a few jobs less when Kouta is little though so he wouldn't feel less close to his Mom than his Dad.

Both Kanji and Naoto suffered from unfair expectations growing up, so they try their best to make up for it with Kouta's upbringing. They want him to feel comfortable being himself and free to express himself the way he wants; they make sure he knows he'll always be loved and supported, and to never be ashamed of who he is. As a child it doesn't even occur to him that many social norms and social expectations exist, because Naoto and Kanji pretty much let him do whatever as long as he isn't hurting himself or anyone else. They might go a little overboard though, giving into Kouta's whims without much consideration at all. The Amagi Aunties enforce rules and keep kids grounded in reality much better lmao

40. If you could change one thing about your otp, what would that be?

HMNGHNMHGNMGH I WAMT YOSUKE'S INTERNALIZED BULLSHIT ACKNOWLEDGED!! It's there AtlUS!! Stop pretending oh my god.... I love the Dancing All Night story mode (so far. I am by no means done); Yosuke gets cool moments and Yu's internal monologue really shows how much he appreciates him. The dynamic is so much better than with a silent protagonist, and thank god they didn't go with the tactless anime Yu (as fun as he is). I know there are a bunch of nods to the cut romance across spinoffs but mannnn... I wish they were more serious about it. At this point it's not even that far-fetched to think Yosuke has feelings for Yu that he may or may not be aware of, and I know that Yu as the player character can't be too tied down to one option in canon, but still... Even the clown gets tired of jokes at some point. One can dream.

40 ship questions

#asks #anon #about me #this took like three hours and i didn't even take breaks shjddhjjdfh #i'm not complaining i love answering questions but like #i thought i'd still have time to do something else after #it's almost 3 am now;; it wasn't even midnight when i started;;;#i have another ask in my inbox but i'll have to leave it for tomorrow now orz #also sorry for dropping a bunch of ship names on you without specifying characters or fandoms #i have no excuse i just didn't want to do it #oh and if you're heavily in the 'naoto is trans only go die' crowd... this is the wrong blog for you #i respect other headcanons and preferred readings but it has to go both ways #and i prefer her as a woman if it wasn't clear from this #for personal reasons #that i'm not required to specify #if you make a post referring to naoto as them that's awesome and that's who they are in it #and if you think he's a trans guy but accept not everyone sees him that way that's awesome keep that up #but if me calling naoto her makes your blood boil for whatever reason then unfollow and block if you need to #that's great that's what taking responsibility over your experience is #i'm not guilt-tripping anyone into staying my headcanons are no better than yours

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hpfangirl13 · 5 years

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Shipping Questions Challenge

I saw some other people answering these questions so I figured I would. This is basically everything ever about my shipping history.

Talk about the first ship you ever had.

My first ship was Bellamort. I was 11 and was in the process of reading Harry Potter for the first time. Something about them both intrigued me and despite Voldemort supposedly not being able to love, I always felt like he had a soft spot for Bellatrix. After Cursed Child, turns out I was right. ;)

Talk about three of the most important ships throughout your life.

Bellamort is definitely one of them because they were my first ship, not to mention the first fanfic I ever read was about them. Jamko is probably the biggest one because ever since I saw them for the first time, I have been obsessed with them. They made me feel like no other ship ever did. The night they became canon was the best night of my life, hands down. Joe and Mika from Morning Joe are probably my third because they gave me the same effect Jamko did. I was obsessed with them the moment I saw them. Something about the way they interacted on screen made me love them. Now they’re married so woohoo!

What’s your current OTP?

Thomas Magnum and Juliet Higgins from the new Magnum P.I. They are my latest obsession and I love their will they/won’t they relationship. “Day of the Viper”, the newest episode, was huge for their relationship development. They’re completely adorable.

What’s your current NOTP?

Erin and Anthony from Blue Bloods. I love them both individually and working together as a team but I can’t stand that people are shipping them romantically. He’s more like an uncle to her, he’s just WAYYY too old for her.

Do you have any poly ships?

No. I’m not into that stuff.

How do you feel about love triangles?

Not into these either. They’re pointless and we usually already know who’s going to end up with who anyway.

How do you feel about RPF?

I ship a lot of real people and celebrities. I think it’s fine as long as people don’t get creepy about it.

Have you ever shipped yourself with a character?

Nope.

Do you have many ships that never got together at all?

The only one I can think of off the top of my head would be Captain America and Black Widow. They vibed all through Winter Soldier, but Marvel had to kill their potential relationship so that she and Hulk could be a thing. I’m still holding on to hope for them in Endgame though. I also have a lot of ships that are currently in the will they/won’t they phase.

Do you ship any characters that have never met?

No. I can’t ship people who I haven’t seen together.

Talk about your favorite first kiss.

Jamko’s first kiss back in season 4 of Blue Bloods. It was a little awkward but my 13-year-old self was losing her shit. I also had to wait a week after that episode aired to watch the episode. The struggle of having a flip phone and being on vacation was real.

Have you ever been disappointed when your ship finally got together?

YES. Jamko has been a complete mess all season 9. I’m not sure what the writers are trying to do with them, but they’ve completely killed their chemistry. I thought this season was going to be iconic, but it’s honestly been such a letdown. I wanted them together, but not with this sappy writing.

Has a ship ever broken your heart?

Jamko is kinda breaking my heart because they’ve been so out of character.

How do you feel about will they/won’t they?

It’s the best kind of ship tbh. There’s nothing better than the week to week anticipation of wondering if that week will be the week they finally happen or make progress. I love a good slow burn. You can’t say you’ve truly shipped something unless you’ve shed tears and felt pain because of the frustration of waiting.

Have you ever “shipped at first sight”?

Definitely. When you know you know. I fell in love with Jamko the minute I saw them.

Talk about a ship you initially disliked.

Initially, I hated Reylo. When Force Awakens came out I was 100% a Finn/Rey shipper. I thought her and Kylo were gross. But that all changed in The Last Jedi. Their “force Skyping” converted me. I love a good AU Reylo fic.

Talk about a pairing you’ve stopped shipping romantically.

I guess I would have to say Finn/Rey. He’s with Rose now, and as dumb as that ship is, I honestly think Rey and Kylo have more of a connection now. I also used to be really into Weller/Jane from Blindspot, but that pairing and show are shitty now.

Talk about a moment which made you question an entire ship.

This season when Jamie and Eddie were playing mini golf and Jamie revealed that he had proposed there, I was baffled. I simply don’t want to believe that he proposed to her there right after she saved him from being shot. Seriously, who thought that was a good idea?

Have you ever shipped something despite yourself?

There are a few ships that I kind of don’t advertise that I’m in to. Joe and Mika and Bellamort would be a few examples.

Talk about a ship you feel alone in shipping.

I feel like I’m the only person who ships Joe and Mika. I feel like everyone hates their politics and judges them because of what they talk about on their show. Also, they’re like 50-year-old news anchors and most of my friends think I’m pretty weird for liking them anyway. There’s probably someone out there who likes them as much as I do, I just haven’t found them yet.

Is there a ship you just don’t get, but have nothing against?

I guess Samar and Aram from Blacklist. They’re ok I guess, but I don’t really ship them. I don’t have anything against them though.

Which of your ships have the best chemistry?

Currently? Higgins and Magnum no question. But Ellick, Slibbs, and WonderBat are some of my other favorite matches in terms of overall chemistry.

Which of your ships deserve better writing?

JAMKO JAMKO JAMKO JAMKO JAMKO

Do you mostly ship canon pairings?

Many of the ships I have have become canon since I started shipping them. I find myself beginning to ship people, and then they get together down the road. There’s honestly nothing that I ship that I believe has no chance of getting together.

Have you ever shipped a pairing before you even started watching the show/movie simply because of gifs and graphics or similar?

Yes. This is what prompted me to start watching the new Magnum P.I.

Have you noticed a pattern in your shipping? Is there a romantic dynamic you’re more drawn to?

Yes. I love pairings where both people are very strong and independent, but unstoppable together. I pretty much exclusively watch crime dramas, so I especially love police and military couples. If they have obvious sexual tension, I’ll probably be drawn to them.

Is there a ship you’ve shipped for most of your life?

I guess my longest ship would be Bellamort, which I started shipping when I was 11. I’m 18 now, but 7 years is a pretty good amount of time. I’ve also shipped Jamko for 6 years now.

Does shipping come easily to you?

It’s like breathing.

Do you need to ship something to really enjoy a movie/book/tv show/comic?

This depends. In some cases, yes. But I love The Blacklist and I haven’t really shipped anyone on that show.

Name a couple of fandoms in which you have no ships.

I think Blacklist is kind of it… although I may be putting my Keenler hat back on soon.

Talk about one of your favorite headcanons for a ship you love.

The “sharing a bed in a hotel” headcanon is an all-time favorite of mine.

Name your favorite fan artist(s).

To be honest, I don’t really know any fan artists by name.

Share your favorite fanmix for your OTP.

For Jamko, the entire “The Block” album by New Kids on the Block. It’s not exactly a fanmix, but it’s a perfect album for them. I have made my own playlist for Magnum/Higgins recently:

“Juliet”- LMNT, “We Went as Far as We Felt Like Going”- Pussycat Dolls, “Big Time”- Big Time Rush, “7 rings”- Ariana Grande, “CRZY”- Kehlani

Do you create fanmixes/gif sets/fanart/fic/fanvids and so on for your ships?

Sadly no. I don’t have the talent or time.

Do you have a favorite trope and/or AU for your OTP?

Not really. I have to be in a certain mood to read AU fics anyway.

Do you like and use ship names?

I love them and use them frequently, as illustrated by this post.

Is there a fictional relationship you’d really want for yourself?

I live vicariously through Eddie Janko. In middle school, I literally tried to act and dress like her. So that should tell you whose relationship I wish I could be in.

If you could change one thing about your OTP, what would that be?

How Jamko has been written this season. Go back to season 9 episode 1 and start over.

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Future Shorts...4?

//another 3 stories because these can be hard to churn out sometimes.

//Enjoy I guess.

-The Harems-

“Kurosaki-kun…?” Toson sat with explorer at the lunch table. “You…don’t seem all too happy today, that’s not like you. Did something happen?”

“Hey, Herr Gore…am I unattractive…? Do I have a bad personality…? Do I come portray myself badly…? Tell me. I’m kind of at a loss right now.” Yuuki grumbled his questions.

“Where’s this coming from? Did you get rejected by somebody?”

“Not quite…it’s them.” He pointed over to Sly and then over to Junpei. “I don’t understand how both of them are surrounded by so many people all the time, but not once has anyone displayed an interest in me…am I just going invisible.”

“…the first time I see you stressed is because of something like this? Man, and I thought I was narcissistic. I should tell Mage you said that so she can stop telling me that I’m too full of myself.” Toson grinned.

“Your girlfriend still says your name wrong, ‘Tonson’. You don’t get to belittle me.”

“I do when I’m actually the one with a girlfriend…and technically a boyfriend…I still need to get used this whole poly thing.” He folded his arms and leaned on the table. “I didn’t think you were the type to get self-conscious over your image though. It’s actually rather funny.”

“Herr Knives has Fraulein Watanabe, Graves-san, and Herr Katayama all gathering around him. Yokozawa-kyun obviously has Herr Kamisaka. But I’ve seen the looks Herr Irunami has given him in the past. Not to mention Mademoiselle Kizakura, Graves-san, Herr Exorcist, and Kimyona-sensei have all displayed interest in the past.”

“Kimyona-sensei? Watanabe-san? You sure?” Toson frowned.

“I can see the looks of love on their faces. Or at least, old love. It’s very plain and obvious…” Yuuki sighed. “Alas, nothing for me…”

Toson stared at the explorer for a few moments before taking a sip of his drink. “Well, if it makes you feel any better, I think you’re pretty good looking. You’re not my type, mind you. But…you are physically attractive.”

“Shinko-kun…” A small smirk slowly grew on Yuuki’s face. “You’re trying to tell me that you don’t have even the tiniest crush on little ‘ol me…?” He placed a finger under Toson’s chin and guided him to look into his own eyes.

“D-dumbass, of course I don’t!” Toson flushed, turning away. “Asshole, don’t push your luck just because I was nice to you!”

“Of course, of course.” Yuuki nodded. “Thank you, Shinko-kun. You’re a very good friend.”

“Ah…yeah…no problem, man.”

-Late Night Work-

Sly placed the sword he had finished on the table. It was late at night now, must have been around 1 in the morning. He was used to working late though, so it was fine for him, though he wish he didn’t have to make weapons, knowing his talent were better off elsewhere. Leaving the 9th branch, he began making his way to the dorm building.

The halls seemed silent at first as he made his way to his room, though when he reached his floor, the faint noise of typing could be heard down the hallway. He glanced to his right to see the light of a laptop screen projecting onto the face on Junpei who was sat against his room door in his pyjamas.

“Yokozawa?” Sly questioned, walking towards the blogger who looked up at Sly upon hearing his name. “Why are you still awake at this time? Didn’t you mention you had an early shift?”

Junpei rubbed his tired eyes “Yeah, yeah, I do…but I’ve been feeling like I haven’t been doing much to help the foundation…so I”- he yawned –“I wanted to find a way to improve our security…”

“But why now?”

“My only time slot where I can work on this kind of stuff. I’m working all day, with my only breaks being for food. I don’t even have time to work and eat…ugh…but if I can help, then I’ll sacrifice my sleep…”

Sly stared for a few moments before letting out a sigh. “You need sleep.” He said, slamming Junpei’s laptop shut and pulling it away from him before Junpei had any time to react. “Go to bed and rest.” He pointed to the bedroom door.

Junpei’s brow furrowed as he stood up. “You can’t just take my stuff!” Junpei growled, reaching for the laptop. Sly simply raised the laptop higher into the air, knowing Junpei was too short to ever reach it. Of course it didn’t stop him from trying. “Come on…this is ridiculous!” The shorter of the two complained before admitting defeat, grumbling about his lack of height.

“Now. Sleep. I’ll give this to you tomorrow. If you don’t sleep, you’ll just mess up your mental health, you know that, right…?”

“Of course I know that!” He snapped. “I don’t care about that though! I just want to help! What’s so bad about that? And what about you? You’re still awake!”

“Assassins are used to not getting a lot of sleep. I’ve trained myself to deal with it. A blogger, however, not got the same amount of training. Why are you obsessed with this anyway?”

“You wouldn’t get it…”

“How would I not get it if you won’t even te-“

“Because last time I checked, you didn’t cause all this to happen!” Junpei yelled. There was a silence before Sly let out a brief sigh.

“…did Tamuro say something to you again…?”

“No…I just know that this would have never happened if I just looked for help. From anyone. So many people wanted to help me…and I turned them all away. Kizakura-san, Karma, Kyoji…i-it…it’s all my fault…” Junpei paused. “I…would have been better off if Enoshima had shot me back then…”

“Then what?” Sly asked. “Graves would have had no friends and probably rampaged, killing hundreds, maybe even the people in the class. And furthermore, Kamisaka was saved by Graves, correct? He also probably wouldn’t be alive if it weren’t for you. And you even installed a fail-safe to reverse the despair…you thought it all out. You just didn’t see one part of it all, and no plan is flawless…like I said, I wouldn’t have went about it the way you did, but you had your skill set you tried to use.”

“…I know…I know all that…but so many people have died…h-how am I supposed to-“

“Yokozawa. For two seconds, just stop wallowing in self-pity. Otherwise you really won’t be getting anything done. Instead of using your mistakes as motive, use the people you want to protect. That’s what I’ve been trying to do in order to protect the class.” His expression seemed grim for a moment.

“…Irunami-kun…wanted us to smile, right…?”

“He did.”

“…then I guess I need to at least try…” Junpei took a breath. “…alright. I’ll try to change my thinking…thank you, Sly. For everything.”

“What do you mean, ‘everything’?”

“Well, you’re a good friend, you know…? Whenever I get down on myself, you seem to have the best advice to give. I can’t thank you enough for all you’ve done for me, ever since day one. But…again, thank you.”

“…just get some sleep, will you?” He tucked the laptop under his arm and began walking away. Junpei stared as he walked away. He would probably never be able to figure out what he was thinking…but he couldn’t help but smile knowing that Sly was always trying to help.

-Unconventional Lessons-

“Watanabe-san,” Rina started looking across the table to Maemi. “I’ve kind of noticed that you and I haven’t really…well, spoke at all. Not properly anyway. Well…no, we’ve talked, but I don’t really think I know anything about you.”

“Yes, you’re correct.” Maemi pushed her glasses. “To be honest, I’ve been focused more on the boys in our class. They provide good inspiration for my manga. Kamizawa especially. Though I suppose Kuroshinko and Okagata are both picking up the pace.” She bit into her nail. “Dammit though…Slyama isn’t going anywhere though.”

“U-um…” Rina frowned. “Wh…what are those names you’re saying…?”

“Hmm? Ship names, what else? Kamizawa is Kamisaka-kun and Yokozawa-kun. Kuroshinko is Kurosaki-kun and Shinko-kun. Okagata is Okanaya-kun and Nagata-kun. And Slyama is Sly-kun and Katayama-kun.”

“E-eh…?” Rina only became more confused. “B…but Kurosaki-kun isn’t dating Shinko-kun…a-and isn’t Sly-kun straight…?”

Maemi grinned a little, letting out a low chuckle. “Kirishima-san…you’re so innocent, you don’t understand shipping at all…even if the canon says otherwise…” Maemi’s eyes seemed to have bright determined flames behind them. “That cannot stop the heart of a true shipper!”

“Um…also, aren’t all those ships just guys…? I thought you always said you weren’t a fujoshi…?”

Maemi stopped for a moment before folding her arms, returning to her normal demeanour. “There is nothing wrong in wishing to see classmates happy.”

(Didn’t you say you were using them for inspiration?!) Rina thought. “W…well, I suppose you’re right though. It’s good they’re happy…th-the names, what were they…? Okagata and…Yokosaka…?”

“Kamizawa.” Maemi corrected immediately. “The ordering of names is vital in the shipping world. Especially for those of the same gender. The one who comes first in the name is the dominant one in the relationship. Trying to even imply an obvious uke like Yokozawa-kun would come first in the name…blasphemous…”

(What happened to not being a fujoshi?!) Rina sighed. “Y…you sure know a lot about all this.”

“I’ve written BL harem manga before. Naturally, I had to learn the terminology. Naturally I know the terminology for Yuri harem manga and the ‘normal’ harem manga. Everything has been put into my work. I take pride in my manga, no matter what the nature of the relationship may be.”

“W…wow…” Rina smiled a little. “I…can understand that feeling. I couldn’t always take pride in my work, but there were always a handful of people who were happy with what I could do. I mean, taxidermy is such an odd hobby for people our age to have so a lot of people didn’t like that I was good at it.”

“Always take pride in your work. Always. I was like you before, people thought a girl writing these kind of stories was strange, they didn’t like that a girl was writing these playboy characters and otome girls…but I pushed forward. And look where we ended up.”

“Yeah…” Rina nodded. “I’ve met a lot of amazing people because of my title…”

“Then take more pride in it.” Maemi paused. “Maybe I’ll give you lessons on things I deem necessary. Next time…I’ll teach you how to crush men under your heel.”

“Eh?!”

#Mod J #Mod post #DR #Foundation Short Stories

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nardaviel · 7 years

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a shipper’s manifesto, kinatsuen edition

@crazy-grrrl-on-the-computer said I should write an essay about Kinatsuen so I have. I'm sorry it's taken so long ;-;

I intended to write this with a ship_manifesto format, but then I realized that y'all don't need an introduction to the canon or characters. So I'm just going to skip to the good parts: My take on Kinatsuen, and why I think it's such a great ship.

It can be summarized like this: To me, Kinatsuen is a ship about probable initial drama leading to harmony and joy, and the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. That is to say, everyone gets more out of it than they would out of a couple. It's good for them all. The triad also mends flaws in each couple that comprises it.

Please note that although I love Kinatsu, Enatsu, and Enkin, this is, in part, a post about why I think Kinatsuen is better than any of them. Therefore, I talk about what I see as shortcomings in all those couples. If that'll make you sad, don't click the readmore. I don't want to make people sad :c

(Also, a brief explanation of why I call the ship Kinatsuen throughout this essay and in general, as opposed to the many other options: I considered Enkinatsu for a bit because it's the most logical ship name (Enkin + Kinatsu + Enatsu), but it sounds ugly. Kinatsuen is much more euphonious.)

So, as this is somewhat based on ship_manifesto, the first question is: What's the canon or subtext support for the ship?

The answer is: Not a lot. Pretty much all we've got is the fact that there's a whole lot of Enatsu subtext, but also, especially after season 2, a lot of Kinatsu subtext. You can ignore or reinterpret one or the other, but it's hard for me to see either of those relationships as anything but romances waiting to happen. So how to resolve the issue?

(I know I didn't mention Enkin. That's because, except for that one time when En tackles Kinshirou and Kinshirou blushes bright red, there's not any particular Enkin subtext that I can find. I meant it when I said there's not a lot of evidence for this triad.)

To be honest, what first drew me to Kinatsuen back in season 1 was the desire to reconcile the Enatsu and Kinatsu dynamics. I didn't want any of my faves to be sad or left out, and I didn't want Atsushi to have to choose. But once I started thinking about it, I realized that the character dynamics are really compelling in themselves. Instead of being a patch, a quick fix, Kinatsuen is a viable ship.

More than that, all three of them benefit from the triad more than they would from a couple, and the addition of the third person fixes problems in each of the component twosomes. Kinatsuen is just a ship that works, beautifully. I'm going to go through all those things, one by one.

First up, how the triad gives each of them what they need as individuals, whether that be personal growth or just some breathing room.

Kinshirou:

The obvious answer is that Kinshirou needs people to love him. The more, the better!! The more loved he feels, the more he's surrounded on all sides by people who adore him, the happier and more secure he will be. This doesn't have to take the form of romance, but it can, easily. If not one but two people want to spend their lives with him all together, imagine how much that would mean to him. Imagine him being held close by two people at once.

The less obvious answer is that Kinshirou is a very jealous and sort of unbalanced person, as perhaps you have noticed. I obviously think he could be very happy in a poly relationship, since I'm writing this essay to begin with, but... I think the learning curve would be steep. Let's put it that way. However! If he's willing to make the effort, I think he'll end up less fragile and easily wounded than he was before. He'll have a better understanding of how you can love someone with all your heart, even when you're spending time with another person you also love with all your heart. Because he will have done that himself.

Atsushi:

Again, an obvious and a less obvious answer. The obvious: More people to take care of. Both the people who need him most under one roof. The nature of their relationship gives him ample excuse to dote on them both.

The less obvious: Despite that, he actually has less work to do in the triad than in a couple. Individually, Kinshirou and En can be pretty demanding. Kinshirou has tendencies that can be emotionally exhausting, and En is... En. But they'll both curb each other's excesses—"Kinshirou, he's only five minutes late, don't pester him, he's had a long day." "En, the kitchen is five feet from your chair, get the chips yourself."—and with both of them there to hang out with each other, Atsushi can have some guilt-free alone time when he exhausts himself.

En:

In some ways, En is like a more subtle Kinshirou. No, listen, stay with me. En is insecure, and, all comments about being handsome aside, he seems to have a pretty low sense of self-worth in most regards. He can also be needy. (If I need to expand on any of this, I can. But this isn't really meant to be an En character analysis, so I'll just leave it at this unless someone wants me to clarify.) En benefits from having more people to cuddle and take naps on. He benefits from having more people who get all starry-eyed when they see him.

Also, En needs to grow a lot as a person. Not the way Kinshirou does, but he's kind of a leech. I don't want him to stay that way his entire life. I don't think it would be good for him or whoever ends up taking care of him. He'll always be lazy, but things like telling Atsushi to go get him a coffee, or eating bread for lunch so that Atsushi has to worry about his health and give him food from his own bento—those are no good. He needs to learn to take care of himself. So! Atsushi alone is likely to spoil him too much and not give him any reason to change. Kinshirou alone is likely to be too harsh. Together, they can balance each other out, and help En become more independent without being hurtful.

Now, the couples. Another way to think about this section is, what does each person contribute to the triad?

I want to say first that I do think all these couples can be very happy on their own. My claim is just that they'd be happier in the triad, and usually healthier.

Enatsu gain emotional resonance

Enatsu is a sweet ship. Whenever I think of it, I picture late afternoon sunlight, warm and glowing and gentle. But it's a little placid. Atsushi teases En and En bugs Atsushi for things, but there's never any real drama. There's deep emotion there, but it's a calm emotion, like they've already been together for a long time. Drama is usually what leads to change and emotional growth—for an example, just look at episode 8—but that's not its only purpose in a fictional ship. What I'm trying to say is that Enatsu is kind of boring.

I'm sure they don't find it boring. Their first duet song is about how much they enjoy living calm lives. But Kinshirou is a dramatic person who feels everything a lot, and is prone to blush brilliantly or give his loved ones soulful, shiny-eyed looks. He adds nighttime to Enatsu, brilliant stars and deep blues. He brings the depth of emotion to the surface and lets them all feel it more keenly.

Adding Kinshirou to the equation also adds some sparks and excitement. That's the nature of Enkin. With Atsushi there, and with all of them in love, it doesn't get out of hand; it mostly remains as playful bickering and teasing.

Kinatsu gain dynamism

Some of what I struggle with regarding Enatsu is actually worse in Kinatsu. They're tooth-rottingly sweet, but they're such a serious ship. And with the way Kinshirou adores Atsushi and will do anything for him, and the way Atsushi is so accommodating, there's never any drama. I realized a while ago that this is why I struggle with Kinatsu fanfiction. The relationship doesn't generate plot. They don't do anything. They would have very peaceful, serene lives and be happy, but even their friends, who loved them, would think, "Wow, they never do anything interesting. They just drink tea and go stargazing all the time." They're a good ship for fanart, because they're so sweet, and for very short fanfics. For anything longer, there had better be an external force creating a plot, because they aren't going to do it on their own.

And on an in-universe level, as long as they're happy, that's all fine. I'm not saying they would be sad, or that I don't ship Kinatsu. But they could be happier. They could still be glowingly happy and in love, but with more laughter and more surprises as En adds his unique perspective to conversations. They could expand their own interests by paying attention to En's. They could relax. Because Atsushi, with Kinshirou, would become more serious and earnest, and also more uptight. If nothing else, this is a reason to add En: En is good for them both. He keeps Atsushi from getting so wrapped up in Kinshirou that he forgets to chill out. He might annoy Kinshirou with his laziness, but Kinshirou still learns to take it easy sometimes.

Also, importantly, he's there to puncture Kinshirou's ego when Kinshirou gets self-righteous or pompous. Atsushi might be willing to hesitantly suggest that he consider other points of view, but he's too nice, frankly, to take Kinshirou down a peg or two when he really needs it. Kinshirou won't hear gentle correction, or at least won't take it to heart. He won't become a less prejudiced, less elitist person (or at least not for a long, long time) unless someone straight up tells him to knock it off. He needs to be shocked out of his bubble every now and then.

Enkin gain peace and genuineness

The thing about Enkin is that it can go a couple of ways. They have a lot of chemistry, but it's the kind of chemistry that makes for a contentious relationship, with lots of bickering that sometimes escalates into outright arguments. En is much, much less patient than Atsushi, much more likely to comment or tease when he sees something silly instead of thinking, Oh, well, everyone is different, that's just Kinshirou. Kinshirou, though, is way too sensitive to be teased all the time. He'd also react poorly to En losing patience. Meanwhile, he'd get frustrated with En a lot himself, because En is so lazy and so careless. They would have trouble.

What's more, they're from different backgrounds, and Kinshirou has a tendency to be an unthinking classist. He wouldn't intend to hurt En, would in fact try hard not to, but it's hard to unlearn something like that. It takes both time and the ability to see that you're wrong. I think that for this to really happen at all, both En and Atsushi need to be there to help him along. En can snap at him for being awful about his family, but that will only do so much if Atsushi isn't there to mediate and pull Kinshirou out of his defensiveness.

That struggle is a big part of how I interpret Enkin, but I know that it's not as important to most people. Still, I think the rest of my analysis is enough.

Another thing about Enkin, and something that might make it go a different direction altogether, is that, as I discussed, both of them need affection. They need cuddles. They need someone to pet their hair and be sweet to them and make them feel loved. In a couple, they would have to fill this role for each other. And they can. They can be sweet and loving. They can cuddle, Kinshirou can gaze at En as if En's the most wonderful thing he's ever seen, &c. But, as I alluded to before when I discussed Enatsu, this isn't the natural state of their relationship. For the most part, I think that in an ideal non-AU Enkin situation, where they can both act naturally, they kind of poke at each other, trying to make the other one laugh or roll their eyes. Then one of them (99% of the time this is En) grabs the other and pulls them in for hugs while the other one SIGHS but is secretly pleased. Except not so secretly, because they both know full well that the other one likes it.

In an Enkin couple, they can't do that, both because it might escalate and because they both need tenderness. But I don't believe they need tenderness from every relationship they're in; they just need to have a place to go where they can get it. Therefore, in the triad, Atsushi can fill that role. It'll happen without any conscious decisions on anyone's part; that's how Atsushi treats them anyway. That leaves Enkin free to be themselves, in a situation where Atsushi is there to step in if things get out of hand, but where neither of them are likely to get too harsh to begin with because Atsushi's happiness is at stake.

So, to me, Kinatsuen is a relationship of complementary personalities. Most ships are like that, to the people who ship them, but the thing that makes Kinatsuen uniquely beautiful to me is that there are three of them, but they work together better than any two of them would alone.

Of course, the balance of personalities is more complex than a couple's. Kinshirou is very serious and a bit rigid until you get him to relax. Atsushi is the slightly sassy mom friend who just wants everyone to get along. En is the laziest man alive, but he's interesting to listen to. So! En helps Kinshirou relax. Atsushi smooths things over if the atmosphere gets tense, but otherwise contributes to the conversation. He and En tend to think very much alike, but Kinshirou thinks along different lines, which can spin conversations off in interesting new directions that En and Atsushi wouldn't think to explore alone.

Atsushi has some hobbies in common with each of them, but in truth, all of them like quiet. Kinshirou wouldn't quite put it that way, but his hobbies are mostly solitary, and when they aren't, like tea ceremony, he's so contemplative and focused on philosophy that it becomes so. Even kyudo is at heart a solitary affair. It's easy to imagine Atsushi and Kinshirou happily reading in the same room, glad to be in each other's presence but enjoying their books, occasionally commenting to each other about what they read. The best parts of alone time, without having to actually get lonely. En could be reading manga, or he could be napping. They aren't exactly a triad that wants to go out every weekend.

I've done some reading about poly relationships since I started shipping Kinatsuen, and I remember reading that a triad isn't just three relationships. It's four: all the individual relationships between the members, and then the overarching three-way relationship. That's a lot going on, compared to the one relationship in a couple.

It could be chaotic; that fourth umbrella relationship could be a tangled mess. But Kinatsuen's personalities mesh so well that there's harmony instead. En grounds them, despite his flights of fancy; he's laughter, he's levity. The strength of Kinshirou's emotions is unmatched between the three of them, possibly between all the main characters in the show. He gives the relationship a depth and beauty that mixes well with En's teasing and casual gestures of affection. Unfortunately, Atsushi is the sole source of practicality. But he's also the peacemaker: He steadies Kinshirou. He brings out En's fluffier side.

His love is bright and affectionate and calm, whereas Kinshirou's love is deep, unadulterated, and very serious. En mostly expresses his own through touch, and "whoa, that looks good on you", and cryptic comments ("You're like air." "Is that a compliment??"), and trying to keep someone in bed with him longer for morning cuddles. Kinshirou and En can complement each other beautifully, or they can scrape against each other's nerves; the calm vibe Atsushi contributes encourages them to complement. (I know I'm mostly paraphrasing things I said in the previous sections, but I'm trying to pull it all together.)

But no relationship is perfect. Kinatsuen has its flaws. Kinshirou sometimes struggles with jealousy, and En, with feelings of inadequacy. Atsushi occasionally feels overwhelmed. But in all cases, the others are there to help them through it, in different ways depending on their personalities.

There's a bit of a learning curve for them, too, as I mentioned earlier. Firstly, communication is crucial to the success of poly relationships, but Atsushi has a hard time speaking up about things that are bothering him. He has to learn. On the other hand, that means the triad encourages him to grow as a person too.

And Kinshirou has romantic ideas about monogamous love. His journey is the longest. First, he has to realize that polyamory—not a triad, necessarily, because I believe that except in AU situations, Kinatsuen needs to start out as a vee—is a viable option that will make everyone happy (i.e. Atsushi, and by extension himself because it's horrible to see Atsushi sad... also En, he supposes, but that's a lower priority). Then, he has to think about it, and think about it, until the idea is something he feels comfortable enough with to try. He imagines it as a struggle he will endure for Atsushi's sake, which is not a great idea, Kin-chan. Not a great start. I don't recommend going into a relationship with this mindset, but... he's Kinshirou. And actually, the reality is a lot easier than he expects. Livable, frequently even pleasant. It's much easier to be around En, as well, now that the situation is resolved. And from there, their relationship slowly grows until the vee with Atsushi as a pivot becomes a triad.

This is therefore a relationship that takes a long time to happen. Years. I don't picture Kinatsuen as a triad that immediately falls into place, and I have a feeling that some of the struggle people have with the ship is that they try to imagine it happening within weeks and can't make it work. Well, of course not. It needs to be taken way more slowly than that. Kinatsuen requires patience. But the reward is so, so worth it, for the three of them and for the shippers as well.

As for a rec list à la ship_manifesto, I'm very lazy so I would suggest going to the AO3 tag or looking through my /tagged/kinatsuen. There's not enough content that I can be picky about what I recommend.

That about wraps up this post. Thank you for reading! I hope it was thought-provoking, even if I haven't converted you into a Kinatsuen shipper. If anything needs clarification, I can elaborate, although not necessarily at once.

#boueibu #kinatsuen #kinshirou kusatsu #atsushi kinugawa #en yufuin #boueibu meta #my post #ive been working on this for days #im worried that its not very good ;-; like #I LOVE THIS SHIP SO MUCH how can i put all my love into this one tiny essay

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@code-name-flamingo tagged me for 5 otps an age and a half ago, and then I mostly wrote it but abandoned it in my drafts folder? idek.

So, Sang’s Big Shipping Feels, most of which aren’t pairs and which in sum is gonna run super-long, so under the cut:

Holmes/Watson

David Balfour/Alan Breck

Papa Fitzgerald/Mama Fitzgerald/Aunt Bertha

Tin Woodman/Scarecrow/Patchwork Girl

Jack Harkness/so-many-people-so-many

Holmes/Watson: These two were real slow to grow on me -- it took a whole passel of ACD fic-writers to sell me on a particular reading of Watson and then of the relationship -- but once it took, it took hard. There are some caveats: I don’t ship them in all incarnations; whenever Mary Morstan exists, my shipping tends to run toward OT3 (more usually a vee than a triad); in incarnations where Watson seems obstinately straight (Private Life), my shipping runs heavily toward “It’s Complicated...” But, yeah. You don’t spend a year making that vid unless you ship them. Or at least I don’t.

David Balfour/Alan Breck (Kidnapped, Robert Louis Stevenson) When I was fifteen or sixteen, I spent an entire summer reading and re-reading the quarrel in the heather—

"This is a pity," [Alan] said at last. "There are things said that cannot be passed over." "I never asked you to," said I. "I am as ready as yourself." "Ready?" said he. "Ready," I repeated. "I am no blower and boaster like some that I could name. Come on!" And drawing my sword, I fell on guard as Alan himself had taught me. "David!" he cried. "Are ye daft? I cannae draw upon ye, David. It's fair murder." "That was your look-out when you insulted me," said I. "It's the truth!" cried Alan, and he stood for a moment, wringing his mouth in his hand like a man in sore perplexity. "It's the bare truth," he said, and drew his sword. But before I could touch his blade with mine, he had thrown it from him and fallen to the ground. "Na, na," he kept saying, "na, na—I cannae, I cannae."

—and swooning with the romance of it all. (Oh, I still swoon! Alan! Davy! Alan! and then Davy realizes he's torn it, it was all pride and stupidity and there's no apologizing for any of it, but he figures a little h/c might bring Alan back around, so he's all, "Welp, Alan, I guess I'm just going to have to die of exhaustion right here where I stand," and Alan is all, "Wait, what?" and Davy is all, "You heard me! DYING!" and makes like to faint, and Alan eats it up with a goddamned spoon and then they're together again FOR EVER AND EVER THE END, well, except that there's still a bunch more novel because they have to go get Davy his revenge and his inheritance and then they have to get Alan safe off to France, and okay realistically yeah they're star-crossed at best because Davy's a Campbell and Alan's a Stuart and civil war and politics and death sentences and whatnot BUT STILL. TOGETHER FOR EVER AND EVER THE END.)

...and thus I learned that if you have mortally offended your best friend, you can always try faking your death and that might help.

(*stern look at Holmes* By which I mean faking your death a little, not for three fucking years, you asshole. And no, you don’t get a pass on Dying Detective -- you should have gotten your act together before he got married.)

Mama Fitzgerald/Papa Fitzgerald/Aunt Bertha (The Great Brain): Apparently I was poly from waaaaaaaaaaay back, because it was always incredibly obvious to me that the correct number of parents is three. The narrator of these books is a child, and we never get much detail about the household beyond “Mama and Papa and Aunt-Bertha-who-isn’t-our-Aunt.” Neither are we told nor shown much about Aunt Bertha herself: she’s often only around the edges of the story, because she obviously considers the kids’ shenangians to be primarily Tom and Tena’s problem. Nevertheless, my 10-yo self totally believed that Tom, Tena, and Bertha were a triad.

Someday I might write a Tena/Tom/Bertha origin story, because the only detail we get about how their arrangement began is both intriguing and inadequate: she apparently walked into the Advocate office after burying her husband and told Tom that she’d be living with her and Tena from then on. I want their story, and I want it badly.

Tin Woodman/Scarecrow/Patchwork Girl (Oz stories) So canon. So fucking canon. As I wrote about them before:

The Tin Woodman says that his clockwork heart doesn’t do romantic love (and I believe him), but Nick nevertheless built his palace in the shape of a corncob and installed his-and-his thrones so he and the Scarecrow could rule the Winkies side-by-side. Also, if you listen to them talk, they may not be in love, but they are as affectionate and married as it is possible to be. In contrast to Nick, however, the Scarecrow is as smooshy a romantic as you’ll ever meet, and absolutely smitten with Patches. For her part, Patches enjoys the Scarecrow’s attention -- she’ll canoodle with him all night through! -- but she isn’t about to give up her footloose ways for him, either.

So. Do I believe that the Scarecrow is happily married to the Tin Woodman, while carrying on a long-distance romance with Patches? YES. YES I DO. Do I believe that Nick occasionally has fits of insecurity, but that he and the Scarecrow soothe them with the liberal application of TLC and tin polish? YES. YES I DO. Do I believe that Patches is having the time of her life exploring the world and sometimes drops by the Corncob Palace for a little mutual kinky needlework and to tell the Scarecrow stories about the things she’s seen? YES. YES I DO. And do I believe that all three of them are successfully getting the kinds of things they individually want and need from their relationships? YES. YES I ABSOLUTELY DO.

...and it’s not like I spend that much time thinking about these three, but they work, in a way that is really weird but also makes perfect sense for them. Which is pretty much how any relationship is going to work, when it works, isn’t it?

Jack Harkness/so-many-people-so-many (Torchwood)

Look, it’s Jack, he falls in love like breathing and is fiercely, deeply loyal to them all: he would lay down his life for any of them if he could, no hesitation, whether they’re currently together or not. Also, he is effortlessly poly and functionally immortal, and so we keep getting glimpses of people he loved once and loves stiI, even though the main part of the relationship is long past. I could never possibly rank one of those people over another, mostly because Jack would never conceive of doing such a thing himself. I know this is deeply contrary to how one is supposed to build lists of otp/ot3s -- how on earth do you specify a ship but leave some of the names unspecified? -- but when you ask me who I have Big Shipper Feelings about, I’m sorry, but it is what it is: Jack and all the people he’s ever loved, whether those relationships were long or short, platonic or sexual, explicitly mentioned in canon or not. Yes, I’m doing it wrong, but I do everything wrong, so whatever.

#otp #ot3 #otwhatever

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